Re: [bomp] pulp b.s.

[jumpinginthenight <jumpinginthenight@xxxxxxxxx>]

I would presume that both Rocky and Domenic know their stuff. However, hardboiled detecitve fiction came about around 1929! That's a long time before intellectual film critics started calling some movies "noir." In the '40s, directors (and authors for that matter) weren't saying "I'll be doing a noir after this Western..." Anyway, good call on CITIZEN KANE being a visual influence on "B crime pictures."  HIGH NOON is "film noir" too.
So to call that old fiction or the latest crime fiction "noir" just strikes me a misnomer that confuses people--no less than Platterpuss had to ask me what it meant. I worked in publishing and editors calling their latest novel a "noir" raised my hackles. Yes, they had those litttle eyeglasses, Dom.
Now if someone wants to call a modern movie like BODY HEAT "noir" I have no problem with that.

Rocky Serkowney <rocky.serkowney@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Good point, especially for those of us who aren't visually-dependent.
Blind Lemon Squirrel.

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>
> "If you want noir" you have to see it in a movie! It's a French term for
the
> movies their film critics missed during WWII and finally got to see
later.A
> "noir" novel is like a "stereo" pizza! In print, you would call it
"hard-boiled"
> fiction.
>
> Mmmmm... if it paints "noir" images in your mind as you read it, it
counts,
> doesn't it?
>
> Domenic Priore

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