Re: [bomp] If You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears

[Moreen5000@xxxxxxx]

      I don't have the original vinyl of that LP, or any of the 45's, and the
only Mamas & the Papas vinyl I have is that " Gathering of Flowers " box set
anthology that Dunhill popped out back in I think 1971, so I can't compare
them for ya, but it's possible that the mono LP version of that album may have
the 45 single versions which were usually mono mixes back then. A common
production trick back then that a number of producers used was to speed up the
45
single versions slightly ... usually to make them " snappier " and " more
upbeat
" for radio play, or for other reasons, additionally some producers also
slowed down songs as well ... Motown and Phil Spector were known to do this
and I'm
sure Lou Adler and John Phillips would be aware of it too. Tom Dowd was one
producer who did this also, most famously on the Derek & the Dominos " Layla "
album, which is just one reason why ( along with the insane number of guitar
tracks as many of the solos were actually assembled from bit n' pieces   of
several " takes " ) that they'll never really be able to make a " totally
accurate " CD representation from the multitrack masters of the original LP
mix.
      So you might want to run the mono LP against a stereo LP and an
original Dunhill 45 and compare them, but I'd bet that those songs, which were
on
45's, " Monday Monday " was an A side, and " Straight Shooter " was the B side
of
" 12:30 ", are the mono mixes. One thing to be sure of when you use a 45
tho', make sure it's an original Dunhill one, as later re-issues of the 45 on
either MCA or a specialty " oldies " label might be the stereo mixes or even "
folded " stereo mixes. I do remember that my original Steppenwolf 45's ( they
were on Dunhill also ) which were mono mixes were definately "faster and
punchier
" than the versions on the stereo LP's, and if I get a chance to later on
I'll run 'em up against my mono and stereo Steppenwolf LP's.

got a feelin' ...    moreen






In a message dated 11/14/06 1:13:40 PM, NankerPhlg@aol.com writes:


>
> A question:
>
> Yesterday, for 75 cents, I bought a Mono copy of the Mamas and Papas' "If 
> You Can Believe Your Eyes And Ears" LP...I'd long wanted to buy a Mono copy
> of 
> this album but has hesitant to spend much on it, fearing it would not be a
> real  Mono mix but a "fold," as I suspect was the case with the Mono copies
> of
> their  second album. So 75 cents was a good price to take the chance. And it
> is 
> definitely a true Mono mix, not a "fold," and some songs were truly
sounded 
> better/stronger to my ears than the stereo.
>
> But...for anyone who already has it...Is it just me, or do some tracks on 
> the Mono album sound sped up? "Monday Monday" and "Straight Shooter" come
> to 
> mind as the ones that sounded a wee bit too fast compared to the way I'm
> used to
> hearing those songs. Maybe others too, don't  remember.

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