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Re: [bomp] Re: Any reviews of recent Stooges reunion tour?
It wasn't an ordinary mistake. The reviewer made an assertion that
challenges the credibility of the band's live show, the very thing the
audience paid its money to see, as if they were Madonna or Britney or whover
that chick was on Saturday Night Live. Whether or not you accept Iggy's
speculation on the technique applied by whomever it was on stage that
covered the missing line, this is the kind of thing that requires a
response.
Had the reviewer written "the new songs were lame" or "the old songs were
played too slow" or "they're looking a bit old to put some of this stuff
over," he'd have been entitled to his opinion and there would be no need for
response. But people are paying money to see musicians play a show. If the
reviewer says they were covered by playback, and they weren't, then he
should be called out for it.
Steve
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Baker" <roky@optonline.net>
To: <bomp@xnet2.com>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: [bomp] Re: Any reviews of recent Stooges reunion tour?
>
> guy writes a rave review and makes a mistake re augmentation and iggy
cares
> enough to get mad at a local journalist?; btw his answer ( "What you
> probably heard is Ron Asheton's ability to play that riff picking a
> mid-range motif while also picking and sliding a bass line") doesn't
really
> answrer the point ("the bass line for "Skull Ring" kept pumping while
> bassist Mike Watt was working amp problems with his sound tech") either.
>
> at least iggy can spell even if his new lyrics are so lame that they make
> braindead mike love's shambling ashram poesy look like rilke's verse.
>
> oh that's right his momma was english teacher
>
> and she wore army boots i bet, so there!
> *******************************
> Michael Baker
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bob Widenhofer" <bwidenhofer@yahoo.com>
> To: <bomp@xnet2.com>
> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [bomp] Re: Any reviews of recent Stooges reunion tour?
>
>
> >
> > Michael Corcoran is such a douchebag. Glad Iggy called him out on his
> > bullshit, I wish more victims of his lazy journalism would do the same.
> >
> > I don't know him personally so I apologize if someone on the list is
his
> > personal friend...maybe he's a great guy in real life but I've been
> > reading his stuff in the Statesman for a long time and I don't like most
> > of it.
> >
> > At least he didn't write very much about himself this time...
> >
> > Immortal Porpoises <immortalporpoises@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > This one is from the big daily in Austin (the Statesman?), but what you
> > really
> > want to read is the letter to the editor they published a couple of days
> > later
> > from Iggy, which is below the review. It seems to have been edited for
> > language, but it's easy to guess what he actually wrote.
> >
> > SG
> >
> > Stooges let loose, put raw power on display
> > Monday, March 19, 2007
> > There is nothing, nothing, nothing in rock 'n' roll more powerful than
> > when
> > the Stooges open a show with "Loose." The bass line is full-on, frantic
> > Motor
> > City madness, and then comes Ron Asheton's riot-in-the-streets guitar
and
> > vein-covered Iggy Pop running all over the stage and doing body
> > contortions in
> > time to the beat.
> >
> > The guy next to me at the Stooges' jam-packed show at Stubb's on
Saturday
> > night said the band would almost certainly open with a song from its new
> > album. "That's what they're here to promote," he said, but you've never
> > seen a
> > guy so happy to be wrong.
> >
> > For me, "Loose" was THE defining moment of SXSW, as the world's first
> > alternative rock band (the grass-roots Rolling Stones) put pushing
product
> > way
> > behind frying neck hairs on the priority list.
> >
> > Such songs as "Trollin' " from their new album the Weirdness would come
> > later,
> > but first Iggy and the Stooges had to establish themselves as the
> > undisputed
> > kings of the fest. And guess what?
> >
> > Everyone in line with a badge eventually got in by the time a corny "No
> > Fun,"
> > which had a stage full of ridiculously grinning fans "dancing," ended
the
> > set
> > at the 45-minute point.
> >
> > How's this for an opening trilogy? After "Loose," the Stooges did "I
Wanna
> > Be
> > Your Dog," with Iggy diving into the crowd, followed by "T.V. Eye," Ron
> > Asheton's greatest guitar moment.
> >
> > A couple of disappointments: 1) It appears that the Stooges play to
taped
> > augmentation. This was revealed when the bass line for "Skull Ring" kept
> > pumping while bassist Mike Watt was working amp problems with his sound
> > tech.
> > It's OK to use the canned help, but never let the audience know. 2)
> > Asheton's
> > guitar wasn't as loud as it should've been.
> >
> > I saw a better Stooges show in New Orleans about three years ago, and
the
> > guitar and Iggy's voice were on equal footing. Saturday night posed Iggy
> > as
> > the focal point, and he is a star, but the ugly beauty of the Stooges
was
> > when
> > Iggy flailed in the feedback of chaos coming from stage left.
> >
> > - Michael Corcoran
> >
> >
> >
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
---
> > ---
> >
> >
> > LETTERS TO THE EDITOR
> >
> > Wednesday, April 04, 2007
> >
> > Loose with the facts, man
> >
> >
> > Re: March 19 concert review "Stooges let loose, put raw power on
display."
> > This rebuttal of Michael Corcoran's review is by a member of the
Stooges:
> >
> > Mike, dude, I would never, ever, ever play music to a freakin' tape. For
> > real.
> > This just never happened and never will happen.
> >
> > What you probably heard is Ron Asheton's ability to play that riff
picking
> > a
> > mid-range motif while also picking and sliding a bass line. This derives
> > from
> > blues players like Fred McDowell, for example. You definitely won't hear
> > it on
> > a Fall Out Boy record.
> >
> > Have you ever heard a real guitar player? Playing live? That's how they
> > do.
> > You also heard Steve Mackay on sax backing Ron up. At the moment the
bass
> > went
> > out, I, too, was amazed at how good it sounded without him.
> >
> > I will happily slit my throat if you can find anyone backstage at that
gig
> > who
> > saw us (fooling) around with a piece of (freakin') tape. We're the
> > Stooges,
> > and in my world tape is not alright. It's fat, rich and uncool.
> >
> > Sorry about the guitar levels. This show was a freebie, so we left our
> > sound
> > man at home.
> >
> > IGGY POP
> >
> > Miami
> >
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