From: Bomp-Digest-Sender To: bomp-digest@bolis.com Subject: Bomp V96 #10 Reply-To: Bomp@bolis.com Precedence: bulk Bomp Tuesday, 18 June 1996 Volume 96 : Number 010 In this issue: RE: Sonics Re: Overdue reissues Encyclopedia of Group Sounds bands Re: Encyclopedia of Group Sounds bands Re: Sonics, Wailers Re: Overdue reissues RE: Scene criticisim Re: saints reissues original sins Re: original sins Re: original sins Re: original sins ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hitomi I Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 12:15:53 +0900 Subject: RE: Sonics - ---------- From: Ben Waugh Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 1996 1:29 AM To: hitomi@kiwi.co.jp Subject: Re: Sonics Hi Hitomi Thanks for the information. I have one put out by Etiquette prior to the Ultimate Sonics release, I can't recall its name, but it has about twelve songs on it. I also have an lp put out by Bomp in the early 80's (Gerry Roslie is the only original Sonic in the lineup): it contains quite a bit of their old repetoire and a couple on new songs. The Big Beat release you mentioned sounds interesting. How might I go about tracking it down? Is it a Japanese or European release? Hi Ben BIG BEAT CD is Psycho Sonic CDWIKD115 This is including all of their etiquette recording exept 2 songs.(It means their first 2 LP and some singles in'64 to '66) You will hear the live version of PSYCHO and WITCH in it. They are most killer stuff of Sonics.I think their LOUIE LOUIE is best version of all. BIG BEAT is a branch of ACE LABEL in ENGLAND. BIG BEAT has www home page .So if you can't find the CD at CD shop. please accsess it. They accept online mail order,but I don't know whether they accept overseas order or not. the address is http://www.acerecords.co.uk/labels/bigbeat/bbinfo.html e-mail of ACEinformation is Info@ACERecords.co.uk. try it BYE BYE Hitomi I(from Tokyo) ------------------------------ From: Ben Waugh Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:35:51 -0400 Subject: Re: Overdue reissues That would work, but I think we'd all be pretty well lit just to have the occasion. Best regards, and hoping for an East Coast appearance, fl > Its been a long time between Stroh's. But maybe we can ship over a few > hundred cases of VB for the occasion. > > Regards, Deniz ------------------------------ From: "Donald G. Smith" Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 09:38:35 -0400 Subject: Encyclopedia of Group Sounds bands A long time ago I heard of a Japanese book which gave discographies and biographies for all the famous Japanese Groups Sounds bands (Golden Cups, Jaguars, Tigers, Spiders, etc). The original e-mail I have about it gives the title of the book but not the publisher, which I need to be able to order it from the US. Hitomi- Do you have this book? Do you know where I can order this book? Do you have any idea how much this book costs in Japan? I also liked the Tigers Movie and the Spiders Movie- Do you have any other movies or TV performances by 1960s Group Sounds bands? What about any video of the Finger 5? (for American Bompster the Finger 5 were on par with the Brady Bunch/ Partridge Family) Don Smith ------------------------------ From: Ben Waugh Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:28:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Encyclopedia of Group Sounds bands Don, This sounds eerily cool. Is it possible to find this stuff in the US? all the famous Japanese Groups Sounds bands > (Golden Cups, Jaguars, Tigers, Spiders, etc). > ------------------------------ From: Ben Waugh Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 10:36:27 -0400 Subject: Re: Sonics, Wailers Thanks for the info. guys, I've got something that Etiquette put out a few years ago, not anything that's been mentioned so far though (I acn never recall the name of the thing). I'll have to check out Ultimate Sonics, though. I also keep meaning to order a copy of that #1 Do the Pop with the articles on Radio Birdman & Stooges. Hope you haven't sold out, I'll send a check this weekend. Thanks fl ------------------------------ From: Garrett302@aol.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 13:41:17 -0400 Subject: Re: Overdue reissues Hey everybody, I'm new to this list (and mailing lists in general), so bear with me if I'm being redundant or if I'm doing something wrong. Regarding reissues, does anyone know if the first two Saints Lps have ever been reissued? I used to have the first one, but I lost it and now I only have them both on tape. Thanks! Garrett302 ------------------------------ From: lee@anti.com Date: Tue, 18 Jun 96 11:14:01 PST Subject: RE: Scene criticisim >>Now they're the Marshmellow Overcoat again, and I'm sure only >>Lee Joseph cares. Tim Gassen is a good friend of mine and honestly, I don't give a damn what he calls his band. His freindship is what I value the most However, Dionysus has not put out a Marshmallow Overcoat (learn to spell that which you criticize) record in well over 6 years. >>If you are gonna play period instro-rock like this, you *better* be >>the fucking Phantom Surfers (i.e. Have personality, an interesting >>presence, musical adeptness, an unpredictable setlist & yeah, >>raccoon masks The Phantom Surfers are pretty cool, but they are not the end-all be-all of instro music. I've heard that someone bailed out of that band cause they wanna sell their soul to the Green Day crowd! Their bass player doesn't even have enough balls to use his real name when he writes for Maximum Rock 'n' Roll! >>Barely adjacent to both threads, I saw the Bomboras (from LA) this >>evening. I'm sure having a go-go dancer (who was entirely too nice a >>person to hafta work with those schlubs) will get them at the very >>least a photo in Sherry (the go-go dancer) loves those guys. They aren't shlubs. Do you even know them?? I've seen lots of their shows and The Bomboras are a top-notch live band. Sure, they have off nights but for the most part, they rule. Are you the sour grape man?? >>Oddly enough, Lee Joseph puts out the Bomboras' records. Dionysus Records, Hell Yeah and Bacchus Archives is run by three people, myself, Aime Elkins and David Kirby. Stop being so ignorant and refer to the appropriate label by it's name. Lee Joseph ------------------------------ From: "J. Emery" Date: 18 Jun 1996 13:20:31 U Subject: Re: saints reissues RE>>saints reissues 6/18/96 both have been reissued on cd. i have them and they do sound good. unfortunately they are imports & cost $20-25 each. believe it or not, i found these at Tower records after being told by our local indie store that they weren't available. not to toot their horn, but tower actually does mail order if there's not one near you: 1-800-ask-tower. - -------------------------------------- Date: 6/18/96 1:09 PM To: J. Emery From: Bomp@bolis.com Hey everybody, I'm new to this list (and mailing lists in general), so bear with me if I'm being redundant or if I'm doing something wrong. Regarding reissues, does anyone know if the first two Saints Lps have ever been reissued? I used to have the first one, but I lost it and now I only have them both on tape. Thanks! Garrett302 ------------------------------ From: "J. Emery" Date: 18 Jun 1996 13:26:08 U Subject: original sins can anyone tell me the skinny on the original sins? i just picked up a really great single called "get you there" by them. does any of their other stuff sound like this? all the stuff i had heard besides this was really noisy/ugly sounding stuff, but this was really catchy, almost approaching "pop" ------------------------------ From: User Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 16:31:12 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: original sins On 18 Jun 1996, J. Emery wrote: > can anyone tell me the skinny on the original sins? i just picked up a really > great single called "get you there" by them. does any of their other stuff > sound like this? all the stuff i had heard besides this was really noisy/ugly > sounding stuff, but this was really catchy, almost approaching "pop" > If I have time later this summer, I may do an O. Sins Web page. I've been seeing these guys since they first decided to be a full-time band about 8-9 years ago. So... let's see... The Original Sins formed (as a full-time band) after leader/guitarist/vocalist JT recorded & released the "Just 14"/"Sugar Sugar" 45 (Bar None) in late '86 or early '87. It was highly acclaimed (I think it was NME that called it the "best punk single of the decade" so far.) The sleeve featured a picture of a friend of JT's named Jill, from her rifle squad days in 9th grade. Well, at that point, I believe Jill was dating the singer of JT's then-band, The Creatures (now known as The Creatures of the Golden Dawn.) The singer wasn't happy about it and their was a split. JT quit the band. Bassist Ken Bussiere and drummer Dave Ferrara decided to join him. They soon picked up organist Dan McKinney and began to play not only some great live shows, but do fantastic records. The first LP, Big Soul (Bar None), was another critical success. It's a fantastic record, alternating between punked out garage and bittersweet pop. However, they had some disagreements with Bar None and left after this record was out. By this time, they had hooked up with manager Dave Stein. Stein formed a record label, Psonik, and released the next bunch of Sins records, including two of my favorites, The Hardest Way (their 2nd) and Move (their 4th). At this point, I've lost track of all the Sins releases... I'd say they've got at least 6 full-length CDs out (possibly more), plus at least 9 45s that I can count (but probably more). Their next CD will be out on Bar None again and may even be a double CD, featuring new work, plus a rerecording by the full band of material JT recorded solo long ago, called Bethlehem. (It was never released, but should have been.) So... what do these guys sound like? Well, JT is one of the best songwriters I've ever heard (and a fantastic guitarist to boot)... he writes everything from bittersweet pop to searing punk, soulful ballads to snarling garage, surf instro to garage pop, even regular pop rock and power pop, not to mention bubblegum. (Check out their "Juicyfruit"/"Coca Cola (Sweet)" 7" on Get Hip. Oh yeah, I forgot... some real psych stuff, on occasion, too. And, yes, one or two noise fests. ("Black Hole" comes to mind.. the song the band used to play when they didn't want to do an encore.) I've heard them cover everything from The Sonics to The Rutles to The Dave Clark Five to The Velvet Underground, The Stooges, & The Saints, to Wreckless Eric. What to buy first? My fave LPs: 1) The Hardest Way (Psonik) 2) Move (Psonik), comes as both a single CD and a doulbe LP 3) Big Soul (Bar None) 45s: 1) "Juicyfruit" (Get Hip) 2) "Just 14" (Bar None) I can't pick a third, there are too many good ones. Now... as to the noise bit, JT does solo records as Brother JT. In fact, he even tours that way. He also puts together other bands to do that kinda stuff. By the way, The Original Sins also had an incarnation (w/out organ) called The Rebeltones, doing rockabilly backing a friend of their's. They were pretty good. I think I've still got the demo somewhere. Blair B. ------------------------------ From: dabooth Date: Tue, 18 Jun 1996 17:11:28 -0400 Subject: Re: original sins At 01:26 pm 6/18/96 U, you wrote: >can anyone tell me the skinny on the original sins? i just picked up a really >great single called "get you there" by them. does any of their other stuff >sound like this? all the stuff i had heard besides this was really noisy/ugly >sounding stuff, but this was really catchy, almost approaching "pop" > > Original Sins discography 'Album Title' Label, year 'Big Soul' Bar/None 1987 'Hardest Way' Psonik, 1989 'Self Destruct' Psonik, 1990 'Move' Psonik, 1991 'Out There' Psonik, 1992 'Acidbubblepunk' Psonik, 1994 'Turn You On' Bedlam, 1995 'Bethlehem' Bar/None 1995 EP's 'Party's Over' Dogmeat, 1991 'Eat This' Psonik, 1991 'Sally Kirkland' Psonik, 1992 Singles 'Just 14' Bar/None 1987 'Alice D.' Psonik, 1990 'Watch You Dance' Psonik, 1991 'Coka Cola' Get Hip, 1990 'Nowhere To Go' Dogmeat, 1991 'Afternoon Jam Session' Radiation, 1993 'Get You There' Chaos 1993 Compilations 'Here Aint The Sonics' Popllama, 1989 'Smiles,Vibes And Harmonies' Venus 1990 'Groin Thunder' Dogmeat, 1992 I believe that's everything under the name Original Sins. He also has numerous solo albums under the name Brother JT on forced exposure and a new one coming out in July on Drunken Fish records. I'm in a project with him called Brother JT and Vibrolux an album on Siltbreeze/ Matador records most likely the "ugly/noisy stuff you dislike and a new one being recorded next month, yes ugly and noisy. Big Soul and Turn You On are probably the ones you'll enjoy most. I hope that helps you out, cat. Later. - -----dabooth ------------------------------ From: "J. Emery" Date: 18 Jun 1996 16:40:01 U Subject: Re: original sins RE>>original sins 6/18/96 thanks for the info. and sorry if i implied i didn't like the other stuff - i actually do. it don't have to sound "pretty" for me to like it (i'm no wimp!) - perhaps "ugly" was a poor choice of words. - -------------------------------------- I believe that's everything under the name Original Sins. He also has numerous solo albums under the name Brother JT on forced exposure and a new one coming out in July on Drunken Fish records. I'm in a project with him called Brother JT and Vibrolux an album on Siltbreeze/ Matador records most likely the "ugly/noisy stuff you dislike and a new one being recorded next month, yes ugly and noisy. Big Soul and Turn You On are probably the ones you'll enjoy most. I hope that helps you out, cat. Later. - -----dabooth ------------------------------ End of Bomp V96 #10 ******************* You have been reading Bomp-digest. 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