From: Bomp-Digest-Sender To: bomp-digest@bolis.com Subject: Bomp V96 #11 Reply-To: Bomp@bolis.com Precedence: bulk Bomp Wednesday, 19 June 1996 Volume 96 : Number 011 In this issue: Original Sins Re: Bomp V96 #10 Re: original sins Re: Original Sins RE: Encyclopedia of Group Sounds bands ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Donald G. Smith" Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 09:33:00 -0400 Subject: Original Sins Their song that began with "Acid is Groovy, Kill the Pigs" (which was the legendary slogan scribbled on the wall by a Marine to try to pin his murder of his wife on Manson-type hippies) was a huge hit at the radio station I used to run. It was one of the 80s punk meets Stooges works which really caught on and to me helped usher in the era of grunge. In fact, the noisier stuff does compare well to early Mudhoney. The sad truth about that band is you can't be hugely sucessful if you stay in Bethlehem- had they moved to NYC or even Philly they would've had a much greater impact than they did. Because all kinds of DJs loved that one song. Just 14 is also a really good song despite it's obvious pedophilic leanings. Dave Stein is the only person I've ever seen who ate a second slice of the terrible 9:30 club pizza, he may have even had a third slice... Don ------------------------------ From: dothepop@ix.netcom.com (Lisa Lindstrom ) Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 08:02:47 -0700 Subject: Re: Bomp V96 #10 Both the Saints "I'm Stranded" and "Eternally Yours" have been reissued on CD in the last few years. I've seen 'em at Tower. Also check out the "Most Primitive Band In The World" CD (on Hot) which is pre-first LP demos from '74. Alan Wright ------------------------------ From: User Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:05:17 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: original sins Oh yeah... a bit more on the Sins: I think one of the greatest things about them is how they take their influences and use them as a launching point. I find it hard to see how anyone could ever truly call them revivalists or retro (the way many people do about other modern garage, etc. oriented acts.) Their music is truly their own. As for live shows... I know they'll be at Brownies in NYC on Friday June 28th, playing with The Swingin' Neckbreakers, Satan's Pilgrims, & The Cowslingers. Blair ------------------------------ From: User Date: Wed, 19 Jun 1996 15:43:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Original Sins On Wed, 19 Jun 1996, Donald G. Smith wrote: > The sad truth about that band is you can't be hugely sucessful if you > stay in Bethlehem- had they moved to NYC or even Philly they would've > had a much greater impact than they did. Because all kinds of DJs loved > that one song. I think they would have had a great impact if they'd actually done more touring. Bethlehem is only an hour from Philly and about an hour and a half from NYC, so that's not a big deal. Heck, they played NYC at least as often as many local bands (often more) in the '88-'92 period. Meanwhile, they usually only played Bethlehem once or twice a month (I know, I usually drove out.) In fact, they played the Big Kahuna in the summer of '88 about 4-5 times. And that's not even counting other NYC bookings in the same period. But, like I said, they didn't tour enough. I know they did one or two tours of the southeastern states, and they played various Northeastern spots on a regular basis (still do); they even did some touring in Europe (Stein asked me to go along as driver for a European tour, but I had a job that didn't give me enough vacation to swing it.) But they just didn't do it enough. To really get popular, you've gotta constantly push, playing your way across the US & Europe on a fairly regular basis, plus get your record played, *and* promote yourselves well. > > Just 14 is also a really good song despite it's obvious pedophilic leanings. > I think that's only one level to read the song at... Yeah, sure, there's the lyric, "She's just 14 and I don't care / We're gonna do everything..." However, I've always gotten the feeling that there was much more to it... some of these lyrics I believe may not be included in the song, or maybe they were only printed on the sleeve, or maybe I remember them from the last "movement" of "Coca Cola (Sweet)", when JT is saying "She was just 14 / She is walking home from school / She is everything that has gone wrong with America / I love her, I want to hurt her..." But she's Just 14. I found that conflict to be interesting. The narrator (not necessarily JT, but the *narrator*) sees this girl, looks at her, the way she dresses, wears her hair, carries herself... her being, and just sees what she will become and why... and he hates it. But at the same time, he sees a girl who's obviously young and pretty, with what *should* be so many possibilities; he loves that. But even with all those possibilities, it looks like the path she's going to take will be that horrible one... right down the same lousy path as everyone else. And he wants to hurt *that*... which she's the embodiment of. Here's the words printed on the back of "Just 14" (the ones JT speaks in "Coca Cola (Sweet)": "The sun is very bright SHE is walking home from school, all dressed in white I think about being WHITE I think about being a man SHE is just 14. SHE is everything that has gone wrong with AMERICA. I love her, I want to hurt her (I don't expect YOU to understand this, but try anyway) Our eyes meet and I can see her LIFE is already over. I FEEL sad. But then I have a COKE and everything's all right." (all caps reprinted as on the sleeve.) Oh yeah, as to the Coca-Cola stuff, besides the song, JT once did a great pamphlet on Coke. I wish he'd really done it in depth, though, research and all... he would've written a fantastic book. Blair ------------------------------ From: Hitomi I Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 00:36:33 +0900 Subject: RE: Encyclopedia of Group Sounds bands - ---------- From: Donald G. Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 1996 10:38 PM To: Bomp@bolis.com Subject: Encyclopedia of Group Sounds bands A long time ago I heard of a Japanese book which gave discographies and biographies for all the famous Japanese Groups Sounds bands (Golden Cups, Jaguars, Tigers, Spiders, etc). The original e-mail I have about it gives the title of the book but not the publisher, which I need to be able to order it from the US. Hitomi- Do you have this book? Do you know where I can order this book? Do you have any idea how much this book costs in Japan? I also liked the Tigers Movie and the Spiders Movie- Do you have any other movies or TV performances by 1960s Group Sounds bands? What about any video of the Finger 5? (for American Bompster the Finger 5 were on par with the Brady Bunch/ Partridge Family) Don Smith Hi Donald The discography named[NIHON ROCK-KI GS HEN(psychedelia in Japan 1966-1969] were issued in '94.10. This book is writeen about all of 60s Group Sounds(abbr.GS)disc. And all the name of bands and songs are written with English. It contains pix of all disc!This is one and only best discography now. It has CD reissue information.The price is 2000yen in Japan. I have it,and I know the publishers. I don't know they accept overseas order. But I know the auther of this discograpy.Please wait till I ask him the way to get it in U.S.A. I am a fan of '60s garage,and I am a fan of GS too. About the Video, some of GS movie are selled as Video.The best one is [Jaguars] It is a comedy influenced from HELP! There is no live video about GS,and most of their film are lost now. I know FINGER5,but I don't know about their VIDEO. Yes they are real brothers! They released many disc in '70s. Many songs of Tigers are played with Clasical string, How do you feel about it? Ben On 24 June, BIG BEAT will release GS comp CD! named GS I LOVE YOU. It contain 28songs, killer of Outcast! and early Spiders(their most crude and cool era) though it doesn't contain Golden Cups,Tigers,Jaguars. Hitomi I(from Tokyo) ------------------------------ End of Bomp V96 #11 ******************* You have been reading Bomp-digest. For subscription requests, send a message to majordomo@bolis.com containing "subscribe Bomp-digest" or "unsubscribe Bomp-digest"