From: Bomp-Digest-Sender To: bomp-digest@bolis.com Subject: Bomp V96 #48 Reply-To: Bomp@bolis.com Precedence: bulk Bomp Tuesday, 30 July 1996 Volume 96 : Number 048 In this issue: Garage Fest in Denver? Re: Garage Fest in Denver? Re: Garage Fest in Denver? Monster Magnet Cynics/Hypnotics -Reply Re: Third Bardo, Cynics, Hypnotics Re: Ug & the Cavemen Re: Garage Fest in Denver? Re: Cynics/Hypnotics Re: Garage Fest in Denver? ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: russpod@netvoyage.net (Russ Butner) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 01:12:44 -0800 Subject: Garage Fest in Denver? I saw a poster for a garage rock festival in Denver on Aug. 1st and 2nd. There were about 10 bands playing including The Marshamallow Overcoat. Does anyone have any details about this show? Thanks, Russ ------------------------------ From: "J. Emery" Date: 30 Jul 1996 10:04:37 U Subject: Re: Garage Fest in Denver? RE>Garage Fest in Denver? 7/30/96 that's Treble Fest wish i could go - lots of cool bands this thurs, fri, and sat. i'm not sure about the order but i know thee headcoats, swingin' neckbreakers, lyres (or mono mann in some form), sugarshack, marshmallow overcoat and loads more. - -------------------------------------- Date: 7/30/96 3:24 AM To: J. Emery From: Bomp@bolis.com I saw a poster for a garage rock festival in Denver on Aug. 1st and 2nd. There were about 10 bands playing including The Marshamallow Overcoat. Does anyone have any details about this show? Thanks, Russ ------------------------------ From: Garrett302@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 10:35:48 -0400 Subject: Re: Garage Fest in Denver? Yup, There're 15 bands playing and it starts in 2 days (Thurs!). If you want information, call (303)715-1858 for details. The Bands Shows start at 7:30 each night and include... Thurs. The Hectics Mondo Topless Sugar Shack Hentchmen Fall-outs Friday. the Element 79 Hate Bombs Drags Marshmallow Overcoat the Swingin' Neckbreakers Saturday. Boss 302 Fortune & Maltese Woggles Man or Mono-man?! Thee Headcoats in addition Billy Childish is slated to appear on Friday afternoon with a poetry reading Tickets...tickets are available in the form of a 3-day pass, at a cost of 30 smackers...because of the capacity of the club (300) it is advised to get on the ball now if you are planning to make the event!! If you have any questions, feel free to call 360 Twist! Records at: 303-715-1858! or e-mail: chimp79@aol.com. Hope to see you there! Garrett302 ------------------------------ From: "Donald G. Smith" Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:53:07 -0400 Subject: Monster Magnet Members of Monster Magnet and Soundgarden did a one-off single as the Wellwater Conspiracy covering Japanese Groups Sounds songs like "Yata Bati Yi" in an beatles-meet-mudhoney sort of style. very odd piece... (they may have also done other material) Monster Magnet are now exploring a post-Sabbath ambient-heavy-metal approach which could be worth it for fans of Spacemen 3, but I find a little sleepy. They released 2 or 3 completely amazing noise rock singles in 1989-90 or so, combining the rawness of Thee Might Caesars with the scumrock attitude of Unsane or even GG Allin (a stretch). They have some affinity for older music (garage, etc) but it's sort of hidden... now if somone can explain Mr. Bungle's mixture of heavy metal, John Zorn, and Esquivel/ Denny/ Baxter exotica, then I can die a happy man. but of course, as people like to say the great equalizer is... drugs. Don ------------------------------ From: Erica Wissolik Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 09:38:45 -0500 Subject: Cynics/Hypnotics -Reply The Cynics are/ were definitely garage oriented and started as a band in the early eighties. They went thru many line-up changes, put out mucho singles and 7 domestic and foreign releases. IMHO they were one of the best live bands of the 80s and its definitely worth it to check out some of their recordings though these really don't compare to the live shows at all. In 1985, members of the band started Get Hip, Inc. The label and distribution company has since become very successful and time consuming and this year, the band officially dissolved. Don't know `nuthin about Thee Hypnotics. I saw them once but couldn't tell you anything about the show other than they were all very tall. - --Erica >>> Frank 07/29/96 03:13pm >>> Can anyone tell me a bit about either the Cynics or the Hypnotics? I seem to recall seeing mention of the Cynics somewhere, so I suspect they're garage/pysch-pop oriented. As for the Hypnotics, I've never heard of them before, but have seen a modestly priced cd with band members mugging on the cover- looking more than a little like the packaging of the Stooges' Funhouse. Is this stuff worthwhile? - -F ------------------------------ From: dothepop@ix.netcom.com (Lisa Lindstrom) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 08:09:01 -0700 Subject: Re: Third Bardo, Cynics, Hypnotics "5 Years Ahead of my Time" has been covered by numerous '80s garage and psych band, including the Nomads. It's probably one of the most often covered '60s punk tunes, even my old band, the 14th Wray were doing it some or five or six years ago. The original appears on more than a few '60s comps, and there is also a four-song EP on Sundazed that has three other cool songs by Third Bardo on it. The Cynics have been around since the mid-80s, they have quite a few albums out, starting off in a very retro '60s punk style with "Blue Train Station." "12 Flights Up" (or "17 Flights Up" on CD) had them doing more of a folk-rock thing. "Rock & Roll," their third LP finds them losing their female organ player and going for a more stripped-down, but high energy sound. "Learn To Lose," their fourth LP isn't so hot. It's badly produced, and the songs are pretty generic hard rock. They bounced back with the excellent "Get Our Way," which is a great collection of punk/psych songs. Over the years, the Cynics have had numerous line-up changes, and gone through many drumers and bassists. Their first two Lps feature an organist, but she was kicked out. The band revolves mainly around singer Michael Kastelic (who replaced their first singer after two singles) and guitarist greg Kostelich. They also have a lot of singles out with non-LP/CD songs on them, as well as a couple of live LPs and "best of" collections for the overseas market. Thee Hypnotics have been around since the late '80s. Their first couple of releases, on singles & EPs are pretty cool Stooges/MC5/Blue Cheer influenced heavy rock. They put out a good lp on Sub Pop called "Liv'r Than God" (a play on Blue Cheer's "Louder Than God") which was made up of a live side, and a studio side culled from UK singles. Their subsequent Lps find them movibng more and more towards a commercial rock sound, and they employed one of the Black Crowes to produce them. I don't think they're very good. Alan W. ------------------------------ From: scaf@pro-net.co.uk (Steve Coleman) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 20:11:14 GMT Subject: Re: Ug & the Cavemen >From: "Derek Grime" >Subject: Re: Ug & the Cavemen > >> the only time I went to see them (with the same pal who has all the 'tones >> videos) the show was cancelled. > >Your pal doesn't have any Ug shows on video, does he? I know there were >a couple of Stingrays videos released... Not that I am aware of. However he did show me a list of bootleg videos available from a dealer in Scotland. It was quite extensive and featured lots of eighties garage bands and one or two clips of sixties bands like the Elevators and ?. Sorry do not have the chaps name and details as it was over to years ago. Incidentally, for all you video collectors, a posting was made to the Usenet discussion group 'alt.music.psychedelic' last week advertising garage/psych/pop/rock videos. Look out for the posting made by GTO Tiger on 7/25. Regards Steve ------------------------------ From: laura kersting Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 13:05:01 -0500 Subject: Re: Garage Fest in Denver? At 01:12 AM 7/30/96 -0800, you wrote: >I saw a poster for a garage rock festival in Denver on Aug. 1st and 2nd. >There were about 10 bands playing including The Marshamallow Overcoat. Does >anyone have any details about this show? > >Thanks, >Russ > > > > hi russ, although i am not going (but would love to) and i don't have specific info i do know of a newsgroup whose posters have been obsessivly talking about this for awhile. did you know billy childish is headlining this event? so its worthwhile if youcan go. who knows when he will come back to the states. i don't know the exact address but put in a search for alt.music banana truffle and you should find it. laura ------------------------------ From: William von Hagen Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 22:34:34 +0600 Subject: Re: Cynics/Hypnotics I couldn't resist responding to this request for info on the Cynics, since I was the drummer on the first two LPs and the first four or five singles. You can stop reading this now if you don't want to read my verbose recollections. The Cynics got started in 1983, playing stuff that we liked - our first single (Painted My Heart - an original - b/w Sweet Young Thing - Chocolate Watchband) largely sums up what we were into then - grungy R&B flavored garage and some Psych stuff. At that time, we used to do a fair number of covers, 13th Floor Elevators, Watchband, some early Stones and surf stuff (Wipeout, Pipeline - actually, we used to munge these two together into something we called Pipeout), etc. We ended up doing more originals, basically, as Gregg (guitar) wrote them. Michael Kastelic joined the band for the second single, giving us a vocalist with more range, experience, and better at partying than Mark, our first vocalist. He also had a better car - our first show outside of Pittsburgh was to have been at JB's in Kent, Ohio, with the original lineup. I went out early with a friend, and we sat around for hours until I got a call saying that the transmission had dropped out of Mark's car while still in Pittsburgh. Sigh. The first two singles were on Dionysus records, as well as a cut on a sampler that Lee Josephs did. Lee was a big help in getting us started, getting some distribution, etc. These were straight R&B, garage "grunge," and were tons of fun to do. The first LP is much like these. The second LP had some folky stuff on it - we got into a Byrds-type sound for awhile (which came in handy when we opened for them once here in Pittsburgh, on one of their reunion tours). Much of that was thanks to our rhythym guitar player at the time, Richard Schnapp, who could write songs faster than anyone I ever met - frequently before we'd finished the previous one. Our third single, Summer's Gone, is in the folk rock vein. We also did lots of pop/folk/psych covers, some of which made it onto the second LP (Twelve Flights Up). This LP came out in the US on Get Hip/Skyclad, in Spain on Impossible, and in Canada on Star. We were excited! I left the band in 1988 because I had too many bills to pay and a straight computer job that I needed to hold onto. A while after I left, The Cynics put out their third LP, "Rock n' Roll", which I thought was great - they toured Europe, Canada, and the US, had a great time, and gained lots of fans. I'm somewhat hazy on the tours and so on that they did for "Learn to Lose" and "Get My Way". Their final lineup was great - actually, I liked all of them. As others have noted, there have been many lineup changes over the years, many that I didn't keep track of after I left. I'd played in lots of bands before the Cynics, but I don't think I ever worked with as fine a musician as Gregg. It was all a blast, and after all this time I really don't remember any bad times that weren't funny as well. I do remember whipping a drumstick or two at Gregg over the years - oops! I used to play with marching band drumsticks (DC-9000), so this had alot of damage potential. Gregg, Michael and I started Get Hip (the label) in 1985 to release some Cynics stuff that we thought we could work through the distribution network Gregg had set up in a record distribution business he had. Some other people liked what we were doing, so we started putting out singles by other bands, and things kept growing from there. We later merged with Gregg's distribution business to form get Hip, Inc., which is still around today (thanks to Gregg!). I put in the computer system and wrote the software that we use to run the business, but Gregg and his wife Barbara are the music and business brains of the outfit. Michael did sales there for a year or two, but has since moved on to other interests. You can check out our web site at http://www.gethip.com - it's way behind, because I am slow in updating it. We currently have two parallel lines of releases - new garage/psych/rock/low-fi on Get Hip, and a series of releases of lost classic singles and LPs/CDs on the Get Hip Archive Series. We've put out something like 125 singles, and 30 or so LPs and CDs. If anyone wants more details, you must indeed be a glutton for punishment, but feel free to send me (wvh@gethip.com) mail. BTW, I have Thee Hypnotics CD, and thought that their sound was a bit thin. I agree with Lisa's comments that they were trying to do a Blue Cheer/Stooges type of thing, but it didn't really excite me. Tom Hohn, the Cynics drummer on the 3rd and 4th LPs, recommended them to me, but (as Elvis said) "It just don't move me!" Bill ------------------------------ From: Mattdietr@aol.com Date: Tue, 30 Jul 1996 23:31:03 -0400 Subject: Re: Garage Fest in Denver? Russ: You're referring to Treble Fest '96. It's at the Raven Lounge in Denver. You can get info at (303) 715-1858. It starts Thursday (Aug. 1) and goes through Saturday. If you need more info, you might try emailing Michael from The Element 79 at chimp79@aol.com. Unfortunately, I won't be there either. Darn. Matt ------------------------------ End of Bomp V96 #48 ******************* You have been reading Bomp-digest. For subscription requests, send a message to majordomo@bolis.com containing "subscribe Bomp-digest" or "unsubscribe Bomp-digest"