From: Bomp-Digest-Sender To: bomp-digest@bolis.com Subject: Bomp V96 #68 Reply-To: Bomp@bolis.com Precedence: bulk Bomp Wednesday, 21 August 1996 Volume 96 : Number 068 In this issue: RE: Cool TV Message-Id: <96Aug21.102133edt.29449@gate.necx.com> >Actually, The Hook on Ironside were pretty good as well. Re: Beach Boys Bomp V96 #67 -Reply Re: Cool TV planetariums Re: Bomp V96 #67 -Reply Re: Seeds Re: The Hook Re: Beach Boys Re: Music Machine re: British Walkers Rock on TV shows, Beach Boys >Does anyone with the more "HIPPY" looking CD's in the About the Hook Re: Beach Boys Smiley Smile 1) Nuggets of Golden State 2) Lance Link ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Hitomi I Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 08:17:58 +0900 Subject: RE: Cool TV I have bootvideo including 1 episode of FAROUT MONSTERS. I can watch early Standells in it.They were short hair and weared suits look like Beatles. They played 2 songs(? + I wanna hold your hand). I want to find another Standels clip. This is "They singed Darty Water cleaning the floor with mop" Does anyone know about it? Hitomi(from Tokyo) - ---------- From: Patrick Cashin Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 1996 4:01 AM To: Bomp@bolis.com Subject: Re: Cool TV - ----- Begin Included Message ----- Also, speaking of the Standells, anyone ever seen them on THE MUNSTERS? Too much! I'd love to get a video comp of rock bands, live or cartoon, on 60s shows, if anyone has any advice... - ----- End Included Message ----- ------------------------------ From: Mark Robinson Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:29:48 -0400 Subject: Message-Id: <96Aug21.102133edt.29449@gate.necx.com> >They gave the Seeds a fake name, I want to say "The Amoeba"? (I think). This show is in color, just right for >Sky's freakyshirt. Life immitates art..."The Amoeba" was one of Sky's pre Seeds bands when he was Richie Marsh(sort of a Bobby Vee type). Mark ------------------------------ From: Mark Robinson Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 11:34:05 -0400 Subject: >Actually, The Hook on Ironside were pretty good as well. They had one album on UNI called "The Hoo >Actually, The Hook on Ironside were pretty good as well. They had one album on UNI called "The Hook Will Grab >You". Anyone know about these guys? Were they another late 60's "supergroup" fronted by Moutly from the Barbarians and JC Hook from the Cryan Shames? Mark ------------------------------ From: User Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:48:48 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Beach Boys I've heard that, because the box set has been put off/shelved, whatever, that the Sub Pop single that was to have been part of the blitz has also been stuffed back in a closet. (Although, evidently, a few have gotten out.) Blair ------------------------------ From: "Donald G. Smith" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:45:13 -0400 Subject: Bomp V96 #67 -Reply hmph! the Mothers-in-law a turkey? I used to love that show when I was 3 or 4... Roger Carmel (shady reoccuring chr from Star Trek) plus the matronly Kate Ballard and Eve Arden... one of the perfect examples of mid-60s mainstream culture- you can understand why so many kids gave up on it in '68... the whole twisted Desilu worldview, trying to promote what was boffo in '55 12 yrs later- very Rat Pack in it's own way. anyway- the Seeds play the Warts... one of the kids (who I think live in their parent's garage or something) tries to manage the band and books them time at a studio... hilarity ensues as... hmm I forget now, I think each in-law tries to inflict their musical taste on the happless [small-'h'] hippies ending in a rauscous Pushin' too hard with extra Salvation Army marching band-style drums and horns. very screwed up- there is hardly as square an adaption of rock on tv today... Don Monkees apparently doing an autograph session in DC on Saturday, fyi no- I don't know where ------------------------------ From: User Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 10:43:52 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Cool TV How 'bout the band that landed on Gilligan's Island? On the show they were called The Mosquitos, but I believe the band's real name was The Wellingtons... Can anyone give me more info about these guys? Anyway, the name "The Mosquitos" was appropriated from this show by the group that first got me into all this great stuff back in my senior year of high school (1983). Yup, if it weren't for Vance Brescia and the gang, I might never have flipped out over all this stuff in the first place. The Mosquitos only put out one EP which (as Bill Jones, The Platterpuss, and a few others around here will attest to) was exceedingly mediocre in comparison to their live shows (thank goodness we made sure we got live tapes.) However, their song "Darn Well" inspired Jeff Tamarkin at Goldmine to forget about just doing a 60s garage comp for ROIR and, instead, do one of then-current ('84-'85) bands going up that alley. The tape, by the way, was "Garage Sale," which also featured such notables as The Fuzztones, Vipers, Cheepskates, Pandoras, Telltale Hearts, Gravedigger Five, etc.) By the way, I know ROIR has finally had some of their stuff put on CD... is this one ever going to get that treatment? The Mosquitos also gained some fame as the group that wrote "That Was Then, This Is Now," which The Monkees turned into a hit in their comeback of 1986. I'd say the Mosquitos version is much stronger, although it's nowhere near one of the group's best numbers. Blair ------------------------------ From: "Donald G. Smith" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:16:33 -0400 Subject: planetariums a friend showed me a copy of The Planetarian, a magazine full of helpful hints and articles for people who run Planetariums... this one featured a Planet quiz for grade-school tours written by astronomer and Planetarium director, Dave Aguilar (ex- Chocolate Watchband) thought I'd pass it on Don ------------------------------ From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 15:35:20 EDT Subject: Re: Bomp V96 #67 -Reply Hey, does the episode of Gilligan's Island with the band that's supposed to be the Byrds count? That's the one where Ginger and Maryanne dress up Ann Margaret style and sing "You Need Us". Yeah, I know Mrs. Howell was there too but unless you're a SUPER freak you try to block that part out. ------------------------------ From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 13:55:14 EDT Subject: Re: Seeds Anybody else notice Sky Saxon in the front row of THE TAMI SHOW? I haven't seen it since someone told me this but they said he's watching the Stones with nothing but love in his eyes. As long as we're still talking about COOL TV, anybody remember The last episode of the MONKEES where Tim Buckley does an acoustic version of SONG OF THE SIREN? Really nice. The album version chokes though... ------------------------------ From: patrick@xpedite.com (Patrick Cashin) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 14:19:44 EDT Subject: Re: The Hook - ----- Begin Included Message ----- They had one album on UNI called "The Hoo >Actually, The Hook on Ironside were pretty good as well. They had one album on UNI called "The Hook Will Grab >You". Anyone know about these guys? Were they another late 60's "supergroup" fronted by Moutly from the Barbarians and JC Hook from the Cryan Shames? - ----- End Included Message ----- I heard that Moulty had a hook for a hand. Did JC Hook have a hook? What are the chances. They should reform with the one handed wife beatin' drummer from Def Leppard and call the band "Lefty". ------------------------------ From: "T P Uschanov" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 22:09:25 EET Subject: Re: Beach Boys User wrote: ~ I've heard that, because the box set has been put off/shelved, whatever, ~ that the Sub Pop single that was to have been part of the blitz has also ~ been stuffed back in a closet. (Although, evidently, a few have gotten out.) I saw one on sale for $10 the other day (import 45s seldom cost less than $6-$7 here), and will definitely pick it up tomorrow! But I don't read the major Beach Boys fora of the net, so would someone please tell me how a label like Sub Pop ever came to issue it? T P Uschanov, University of Helsinki, Finland, European Union tuschano@cc.helsinki.fi ### http://www.helsinki.fi/~tuschano/ "Omnia praeclara tam difficilia, quam rara sunt." (Baruch Spinoza, 1632-1677) ------------------------------ From: Menachem Turchick Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:49:54 -0700 Subject: Re: Music Machine >The new Music Machine album is terrific. One of the best parts of the package >is the liner contribution of Sean Bonniwell. Man, does he like to write about >himself. And you can order his autobiography for something like $40. Anyone >read it? I tried to read it, but gave up when it became apparent that his days with the Music Machine (a few brief years, after all, however eventful) were covered a fourth of the way through the book, leaving lots of space for his life in the 70s as a spaced-out hippie, and in the 80s as a born-again nut. Bonniwell's main purpose in writing this is to convert the reader to Christianity, so there's long, pedantic passages of scriptural interpretations, biblical allusions, and preaching in general. You should save your 40 bucks and pick up one of those little comic books the evangelical types pass out - the one where the hell-bent rock star repents - and you'll get Bonniwell's entire point in a nut shell. And yes, the new Music Machine album IS terrific. ------------------------------ From: MCINTYRE@pa.msu.edu Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 14:46:00 -0400 (EDT) Subject: re: British Walkers >From: Lan >As long as we're on the subject of the British Walkers, does anyone on = >this list have personal recollections of other 60s bands from the = >Washington, DC area (Chartbusters, Hangmen, Apollos, etc.)? I grew up in = >the Maryland suburbs of DC and was fortunate enough to see a lot of the = >bands that started in the 70s and early 80s, like Razz, the Slickees, = >Bad Brains and the Reactions, but the mid-60s bands were a few years = >before my time. I remember a high school dance at Lee High in Franconia VA with the Mosaic Virus who were one of the house bands at the Ambassador Theatre and the Fallen Angels. I was quite disappointed that the Fallen Angels didn't do anything from their albums, in fact they performed three Bee Gees covers. Each band had been given their own floor space and while the Mosaic Virus were packing up after their set, they accidently cut off the power for the Fallen Angels. The Empty Set, who had a single of Dylan's "Tomorrow Is A Long Time" and appeared on the local teen TV show (can't remember the name, sorry), went to my high school and the guitarist was in my drama class. Never saw the Hangmen live, but I loved their album. Wish somebody would release it on compact disc with the B-sides to their singles as bonus tracks. Saw a short set (there were like six bands on the bill so everybody got maybe twenty minutes) by a band called Yellow Brick Road that had the Vanilla Fudge style down perfectly. Their set consisted of "You Keep Me Hanging On" (natch), "The Beat Goes On", and "Up On The Roof". I've never heard of the Vanilla Fudge doing "Up On The Roof", so I assume it was the band's own arrangement; sure sounded like the Fudge. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ From: "Glenn Sadin" Date: Wed, 21 Aug 96 10:48:49 PST Subject: Rock on TV shows, Beach Boys Michael Bennet sez... This is slightly off topic, but since the subject of the Beach Boys topic was raised, I was wondering what people know about the Beach Boys box set that came out within the last couple of years. I heard that it's got a lot of the legendary Smile album on it, but I don't know what else is on it. Also, is Smile ever going to be released? The "Good Vibrations" box is a completely comprehensive overview of the Beach Boys' history from 1961-1988. (It ends at "Kokomo," thank gawd!) It contains all of the hits, using Brian's original mono mixes where applicable, and a slew of great rarities, including 30 minutes of unreleased "Smile" masters. The disc contains a bonus 5th "bootleg" disc which contains stereo backing tracks to a bunch of songs (including a generous slice of "Pet Sounds" and "Smile" sessions in stereo, in which you can hear Brian directing the musicians), a cappella mixes of some songs, and a few live tracks, including an amazing live version of "Don't Worry Baby," which is an outtake from the 1964 "Beach Boys In Concert" LP. The booklet contains excellent liner notes by David Leaf and is lavishly illustrated. "Smile" will never be released, as it does not exist. (The album was never completed.) However, every few years there is talk of releasing a "Smile Sessions" box set, but who knows when or if this will ever happen. (Maybe after Mike Love's passing?) A 4-CD "Pet Sounds" box set was slated for release in April, but was delayed possibly until after Xmas. However, a 45 "sampler" was briefly released (on SubPop!) which contains several interesting tracks from the box set, including a true stereo remix of "Wouldn't It Be Nice," culled from the 4-track backing track tape and the eight-track vocal session tape, combined using the marvels of digital technology. ******************************************************************** Patrick sez... If for nothing else other than "Double Yellow Line"! The Music Machine is THE coolest pych/punk band! I'll second this! ********************************************************************* Laura sez... There has been much scribed lately about cool-out SUNDAZED releases...Anyone know a good way to get a SUNDAZED catalog? Write to the address on the back of the CDs - they also stock cool stuff on other labels. Also, speaking of the Standells, anyone ever seen them on THE MUNSTERS? Too much! Very hip! They played "I Want to Hold Your Hand," right? I'd love to get a video comp of rock bands, live or cartoon, on 60s shows, if anyone has any advice... I have four hours' worth of Beatles cartoons as well as lots of appearances by the Monkees guesting on other TV shows from the late '60s. I also have the clip from "Gilligan's Island" of "the Mosquitos" (actually the Wellingtons) and "the Honeybees" (Lovey, Ginger & Mary Ann), as well as the 1965 episode of "The Smothers Brothers" (the b&w show) where Dickie wears a Beatle wig and helps an elderly tin pan alley songwriter write a song that the kids will dig. (What a hoot!) Write me at gsadin@mfi.com if you're interested in getting copies. ************************************************************************* Anybody know if there is a Lancelot Link & the Evolution Revolution album? (You remember that show - real chimpanzees doing a James Bond spoof!) I have about eight songs on cassette taped from the show, and they ROOL! Really cool hard bubblegum pop! Glenn ------------------------------ From: Mark Robinson Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 18:32:26 -0400 Subject: >Does anyone with the more "HIPPY" looking CD's in the series have an opinion on them they would lik >Does anyone with the more "HIPPY" looking CD's in the series have an opinion on them they would like to share? >Is it fair to judge the book by the proverbial cover? Some of the bands look at bit, well you know, suspect. I pretty much have the "Nuggets From The Golden State" series, and with the exception of the "Berkeley EP's", all disks are a great presentation of the San Francisco teen scene. The "Berkeley EP's" disk contains some early hippy stuff and is not for those seeking that Beau Brummels sound. There are however, some interesting tracks by Country Joe and the Fish from '66. The two strongest CD's are the "Autumn Sound" and "Scorpio Story" volumes. It should be noted that most of the unreleased Mojo Men (pre Jan E.) tracks on the "Autumn Sound" disc can be found on a Mojo Men compilation (on Sundazed). There is a volume called "I Turned Into....." listed in Midnight Records. Does anyone have the scoop on this disk and does it contain more SF gems or is it the compilation with We The People and Brogues? Mark ------------------------------ From: Brian Phillips Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 19:54:55 -0400 (EDT) Subject: About the Hook To the list but especially to that send-me-to-the-library-why-don't-you? kind-of-fellow, Mark Robinson(don't fret Mark, I really enjoy going to the library)! The Hook recorded two albums, "The Hook Will Grab You" and "Hooked". The personnel varied slightly between the albums, but the people involved were: Bobby Arlin(also with the Leaves) Dale Loyale Lee Sklar(BIG session player who recorded with many scary singer-songwriter types, including Carole Bayer Sager) Craig Boyd Dennis Provisor(also with the Grass Roots) "Your mind will be GONE!", Brian Phillips http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar ------------------------------ From: michael@hal.com (Michael Coxe) Date: Wed, 21 Aug 1996 21:35:26 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Beach Boys Smiley Smile > From: "Glenn Sadin" > Subject: Rock on TV shows, Beach Boys > > "Smile" will never be released, as it does not exist. (The album was > never completed.) However, every few years there is talk of releasing > a "Smile Sessions" box set, but who knows when or if this will ever > happen. (Maybe after Mike Love's passing?) A 4-CD "Pet Sounds" box set > was slated for release in April, but was delayed possibly until after > Xmas. About 2 years ago Todd Rundgren was hot and heavy to mix Smiley Smile and evidently had access to the tapes, but many other producrs/hitmen saw it as their calling too, and soon the effort went up in a cloud of political smoke and religious ferver. Which suits me as Rundgren's mixes are too "bright" for this material. Who controls the tapes? I thought it was Capital. - michael ------------------------------ From: Frank Uhle Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 01:57:58 -0400 (EDT) Subject: 1) Nuggets of Golden State 2) Lance Link 1) (Following up on several references to the import cd series): Speaking of the "Hippy" volumes of this set, I saw a brief listing for a Country Joe & The Fish cd of their early eps that supposedly contains outtakes from them. Is this an entry in the "Nuggets of the G.S." series? (I realize they already have some cuts on a cd that covers a number of groups' rare hippy eps). Despite their somewhat lame output on lp, their first ep is pretty cool and I'd love to hear some other tracks from that session. 2) (Regarding a query about Lancelot Link's recordings): Lancelot Link and the Evolution Revolution had an lp on ABC released in 1970. The other day I overheard someone at a local used record store talking it up as a real hot item... like kind of expensive to buy when it can be found. As it was on ABC I can't imagine it would be too tough to locate, though. Frank ------------------------------ End of Bomp V96 #68 ******************* You have been reading Bomp-digest. For subscription requests, send a message to majordomo@bolis.com containing "subscribe Bomp-digest" or "unsubscribe Bomp-digest"