From: Bomp-Digest-Sender To: bomp-digest@bolis.com Subject: Bomp V96 #89 Reply-To: Bomp@bolis.com Precedence: bulk Bomp Thursday, 12 September 1996 Volume 96 : Number 089 In this issue: Re: Cool new records - The Queers RE: The Stillroven-Reply -Reply RE: Bomp V96 #87 Re: Cool new records - The Queers Bury the hatchet! Re: Cool new records - The Queers Re: Greetings! Re: Hatchet Buried Re: Bury the hatchet! re: troublefest The Outsiders' Touch website is back! Re: Trips(?) Tucson festival? Re: Knights book... The Gruesomes RE: Die Rattles, they called them... Re: Greetings! Re: Pendletons, etc. Foot-shaped ashtrays... the grave robberz ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Andrea Lauritzen Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:44:59 -0400 Subject: Re: Cool new records - The Queers At 10:19 PM 9/10/96, you wrote: >... even the falsetto parts of Don't Back Down. I read a short article on the Queers in the Boston Phoenix, and Joe was talking about the falsetto parts and how he really hammed that up because there were some cute girls in the studio...I personally found that kinda funny. Speaking of cool records, anyone get either/both Royal Pendletons new 7"s? One is on Nobbler (sp?) records in California and is a split with another band, and the other (brand-spanking-new) one is a comp with the P-tons, Fortune and Maltese and I think Impala on King Louie's Splitsville label. I don't have any other info, as I don't have these myself. If anyone knows what Pendletons songs are on these, and maybe has the Splitsville address (I know louie just moved and I don't have his new address), please post! Andrea P.S. Thanks for the modslist info... ------------------------------ From: Hitomi I Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:10:13 +0900 Subject: RE: The Stillroven-Reply -Reply Mark I missed 3,4,10,13 ,from their single. And thanks about Tommy tucker. I love the comp Sixties Rebellion series! Hitomi - ---------- From: Mark Robinson Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 1996 10:50 PM To: Bomp@bolis.com Subject: RE: The Stillroven-Reply -Reply "Hi Heel Sneakers" was a hit for Tommy Tucker....if I recall. Actually 12 of the 16 tracks are unreleased (all sides from the Gestures three singles are included). Those familar with the "Sixites Rebellion" series will recognize the Zombie-ish "Don't Mess Around" - included on this compilation. Mark ------------------------------ From: mary@catalogue.com (mary robinson crews) Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:44:33 -0400 Subject: RE: Bomp V96 #87 Steve Coleman wrote: ><<>> > >EF6 is available in stores or direct from BOMP! Mail-order. > >Containing most of the tracks to be found on Pebbles Volume Six - The >Roots of Mod. > >Steve > > >Content-Type: application/ms-tnef > >Attachment converted: RE- Bomp V96 #87 (????/----) (0000CFDF) um...can we not send attachments to the whole list unasked for please? thanks muchly, mary robinson crews +=-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-=+ mary@catalogue.com | FREEZE 'EM and EAT 'EM | http://www.catalogue.com/ | -Chilly Willee | http://www.chapel-hill.nc.us/ +=-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-==-=+ ------------------------------ From: laura kersting Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:32:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Cool new records - The Queers At 09:44 AM 9/12/96 -0400, you wrote: >At 10:19 PM 9/10/96, you wrote: >> >Speaking of cool records, anyone get either/both Royal Pendletons >new 7"s? One is on Nobbler (sp?) records in California and is a >split with another band, and the other (brand-spanking-new) one is >a comp with the P-tons, Fortune and Maltese and I think Impala on >King Louie's Splitsville label. I don't have any other info, as I >don't have these myself. If anyone knows what Pendletons songs are >on these, and maybe has the Splitsville address (I know louie just >moved and I don't have his new address), please post! > >Andrea > >hi andrea, its laura! sorry i havn't written- its the beginning of the semester and i hardly have any time to spend on "the net". just one pendleton song on the nobbler record - "hot rod dissertation". its an excellent little 7"- all the songs are great! we will send you a copy. something awful happened. mattie broke a.c.'s guitar! > > ------------------------------ From: Timothy Gassen Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 09:16:37 -0700 Subject: Bury the hatchet! User wrote: > > Message attached > > --------------------------------------------------------------- > > Subject: Re: Hello! > Date: Wed, 11 Sep 1996 19:39:32 -0400 (EDT) > From: User > To: tgassen@azstar.net > > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 1996, Timothy Gassen wrote: > > > End note to all readers about my piece from the Arizona Daily > > Star: I work very hard as a professional writer, so pardon me if I object > > when that work is taken, reproduced, altered and mis-represented without > > permission. > Blair wrote: > Tim, > While I'm not a professional writer, I can completely understand > your feelings on this... > > Back around 1991 or so, I was reading a new fanzine called the > Jelly Slide here in the NYC area. Reading an article on Alex Chilton, I > found my own name... The writer said Alex was wearing his "Blair Buscareno > Must Die" t-shirt. HUH??? What - I wondered - had I done to deserve > this? I quickly scanned back issues of my 'zine to find out what the heck > I'd said. As it turned out, a *friend* of mine had issued a somewhat > tepid review of Alex's show in a back issue of mine and this writer had > taken it to be my work (even though the article was pretty clearly > attributed to the other guy.) > > I guess what I'm wondering about though is the following... I can > see how your work was taken and reproduced here without permission (I > assume), but was this work actually altered and misrepresented? Maybe you > could check the bomp-l archives for us on this and show us the > differences. > > Or maybe you meant that the earlier rumor that was passed on was a > misrepresentation, not the article. Could you possibly clarify this for > all of us? > > Anyway, I'm hoping to con someone into buying me a copy of the > Knights of Fuzz for my b-day in November, since the literature you had at > Treblefest suggested that it would sell for about 21 or 22 pounds (which > has gotta be about 35 bucks.) Unfortunately, I'm pretty low on cash these > days (and, with the publication of the next Teen Scene, I'll probably be > even lower. But it's all for a good cause - the music we both love.) > Anyway, if anyone *does* buy it for me, you can be assured it'll be > reviewed in the TS. > > Blair Dear Blair, Great to hear from you! I don't want to dwell on legal issues too much, because that's as far away from the topic of cool music as it can get. But to clarify what I've written before: ownership rights are very clear when it comes to copyrighted material. That's why it is called "copyright"! Simply put: don't take someone else's written material and reproduce it, in any form, transmitted by any means, without the author's permission! This happened with a recent newspaper article of mine -- the text was copied and transmitted without the permission of the author and newspaper, (these are the owners). Of course I want people to read it: the newspaper has it on their commercial on-line service, and that's where it should be seen on-line.(It was available for "free" for a week, and is now in their electronic archives.) The longer, more complete "paper" version is available as a back-issue through the newspaper. The "misrepresentation" part? Even if someone copied word-for-word someone else's newspaper article, it still would not be the entire piece. The correct byline, headlines, captions, photos and layout would be missing. These are all essential elements in the presentation of a newspaper, magazine or book piece. They all add up to the final meaning of the entire piece! If the author wished for the piece to be transmitted as text-only by someone else, then that's how it would appear originally! This explanation is not an attack on anyone. I'll gladly let "by-gones be by-gones" for anything that's gone on before. I just want to inform readers who might be unaware of these considerations. And to all readers: I hereby "bury the hatchet" with anyone and everyone, and appreciate their efforts to do the same. Apology accepted? Let's get back to the music! Sincerely, Timothy Gassen PS I'm sorry, Blair. My "Knights Of Fuzz" book will be about $35 here in the U.S. That's the cost of about 3 CDs, but admittedly still a hefty chunk of change. I wish I had promo copies to give out, but I only have a handful for my family. Your birthday is coming up? C'mon folks, lets pitch in and get it as a present for him! ------------------------------ From: Andrea Lauritzen Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 12:55:13 -0400 Subject: Re: Cool new records - The Queers At 12:22 PM 9/12/96, you wrote: >pendleton song on the nobbler record - "hot rod dissertation". GREAT!!!! That is definately one of my favorite songs! Didn't Matt write that in High School? Now they just need to record & release "Shy Heart"! Maybe when I ever get my band going, we'll cover these songs! I had a birthday cake for Timmy Hentchmen (he turned a big ole 24 on 9/10!) He was so happy; he was really surprised that I remembered! (AND NOW THE REST OF THE WORLD CAN KNOW! ;-)) Aren't they going to be down there in a couple of weeks? >we will send you a copy. Oh, thank you! >something awful happened. mattie broke a.c.'s guitar! A.C.? I can't recall who this is! OHHHHH, A.C., the BIG A.C., whose guitar Matt's had for a while! YEOUCH!!! Did Mattie get my postcard? Andrea ------------------------------ From: Timothy Gassen Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 10:22:45 -0700 Subject: Re: Greetings! PETEP@aol.com wrote: > > Tim- When Tom of The Swingin' Neckbreakers drinks, he can get a little > obnoxious. But he has never been anything less than a regular good guy to > myself or any of the numerous friends I have ever introduced to him. He > always has the time to talk your ear off if ya want to listen- just a regular > guy who really is down to earth when you get to know him. > A lot more friendly than many of the other musicians I meet! > Todd Abramson is a tough person to get to know, but when you do, > you'll find he is an honest guy who does so much for our scene. He may be > very private or shy, but he is also a good guy. > Pete > Pete, Thanks for the comments! Please pass along my best wishes to both Todd and Tom. I hope we can talk soon and get to know each other. I think that's the most important (and sometimes the most difficult) thing -- to break through the initial impressions you can have of someone and start to know the actual person. I'd like to give that a try, and I hope they'll give me a try as well. (I've always been a Neckbreakers fan, and Telstar is one of the best labels in the world, that's for sure!) Thanks again! Sincerely, Timothy Gassen PS: the bugs are still getting worked out on my e-mail, so sorry if you get this more than once! ------------------------------ From: Menachem Turchick Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 10:28:15 -0700 Subject: Re: Hatchet Buried Tim, Thanks for your reply, even if it was beneath your dignity to address it directly to me. Your apology is accepted. I must say, though, that I find your logic flawed regarding the "mis-representation" of your article. You seem to imply that whenever you so much as quote another source, you mis-represent it. In a way this is true, but are you advocating that all quotes and references to other works be banned? I assume you refer to other sources in your book - by your logic you'd have to supply copies of these sources to every reader, to avoid mis-representation! Clearly this is unrealistic. But enough of this. To the list in general: OK, onward and upward. About a year ago Michael Greisman of Cicadelic Records fame told me that the producers of a movie called "Drunks", starring Faye Dunnaway and Jack Nicholson, had approached him regarding using some songs by The Human Expression for their soundtrack! Unfortunately the owner of the rights to the songs wanted too much money, so the deal fell through. Michael said the producers then decided to use The Craig's freakbeat masterpiece, "I Must Be Mad", instead! Has anyone seen this movie? I believe it was shown at one of this year's film festivals (Sundance?), but it sure hasn't reached Tucson. Hearing "I Must Be Mad" over a THX SurroundSound system would make my month. Any info would be greatly appreciated! Menachem mturchic@igate.iscg.pima.gov . ------------------------------ From: Andrea Lauritzen Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 13:53:14 -0400 Subject: Re: Bury the hatchet! I agree about burying the hatchet. We're all adults here, and we're all on this list not to bicker and point fingers, but to discuss the music we love. I apologize for any bullshit I have said in the past. Having an opinion is one thing, but I/we should have tried to confirm what was being said before getting harsh. >>wearing his "Blair Buscareno >> Must Die" t-shirt. Speaking of HARSH!!! Zoinks! > And to all readers: I hereby "bury the hatchet" with anyone and >everyone, and appreciate their efforts to do the same. Apology accepted? > Let's get back to the music! Thanks, Tim. Now that everyone who was involved in this little "discussion" has said their final piece and buried the hatchet, we can get back to the music! Andrea P.S. i got paid today and realized also that this month's MBTA pass is also a coupon for HMV Music (which sometimes carries really good stuff), so thanks to you folks on the bomp list I am armed with all kindsa stuff to look for! (in addition to the stuff already in my head.) So, if anyone local wants to go cd shopping this month (Phil???) and wants to save a little bit of dough (which we ALL like to do), I believe it is something like 10% off cd priced $9.99 or more (small beans but it all helps). AL ------------------------------ From: Andrea Lauritzen Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 14:04:58 -0400 Subject: re: troublefest >At 10:03 AM 9/12/96, you wrote: > >> And if I ever ask anyone for their impressions of next year's >>Treblefest, someone please give me a swift wake-up kick! >> >>Sincerely, >>Menachem >> >> >Oh, don't go THAT far...next time, we'll stick to discussing the MUSIC >and none of the personal, gossip b.s. (I promise that I will!) > >Andrea > > > ------------------------------ From: Filippo Dulio Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 20:53:08 +0200 Subject: The Outsiders' Touch website is back! I'm pleased to announce that the Outsiders' Touch Website is back at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Alley/3486/ - -For those of you who don't know me: The Outsiders (the Dutch ones...) were one of the GREATEST garage/beat bands ever! This site is meant to pay homage to one of the best and yet most overlooked bands of the sixties. - - For those of you who already know me: As you may already know my old isp went bust (and brought my money with him!). Since I couldn't afford a new isp + server space I had to wait until I found an affordable solution. And since nothing is more affordable than free server space I decided to land on Geocities. I'm not happy to be "sponsored", but as long as their requests for publicity is "discrete" I will gratefully stick with them. - -FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO LINKED TO MY PAGE Please, restore your links. I hope this time my URL will last more than the usual 2 weeks....... thanks!!!!! Filippo Dulio - Italy - duliof@telenia.it ------------------------------ From: Menachem Turchick Date: Thu, 12 Sep 96 12:25:41 -0700 Subject: Re: Trips(?) Tucson festival? >Someone earlier mentioned a garage-fest that was happening in Tucson >sometime Real Soon Now. Does anyone have the full scoop on this in regards >to the whens and who's on the bill? Hi Chris, I'm the one who mentioned Trips, but I'm sorry to say I don't know anything more about it than what appeared in Tim's article (i.e., that The Marshmallow Overcoat will play, and it is happening this Fall). I imagine that Tim will post more details if and when they become available. You wouldn't happen to be a fellow Tucsonan, would you? If so, you may be interested in coming to the next 60s video gathering I'm organizing. This time, we've got clips of Q65, The Outsiders (Dutch, natch), Luv'd Ones, Pretty Things, Quagmires, and many more, plus we may get around to watching the 1967 flick "Blast-Off Girls!" If you (or anyone else in the neighborhood) wants more info, contact me at mturchic@igate.iscg.pima.gov. Menachem ------------------------------ From: User Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 17:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Knights book... The Gruesomes I *loved* The Gruesomes. I saw them once or twice, at least, in NYC in the mid-late 80s (the memory gets - pardon the miniscule pun - fuzzy). WOW! Blair B. ------------------------------ From: Hitomi I Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 23:37:22 +0900 Subject: RE: Die Rattles, they called them... Hi Brian Repertoire (in German) releases many reissued CD of Rattles with additional tracks and booklet (many pix in it!) I have 3 of them Twist in Star Club Hamburg , Star Club show Greatest hit These are beat treasure. I love them. And reperoire also releases their later work, Hurro die Rattles kommen & Remember Jinale ligure The address is Repertoire Records Gansemarkt 24 DDD-20 354 Hamburg Fax 040/490 62-373 Hitomi - ------ From: Brian Phillips Sent: Thursday, September 12, 1996 3:04 PM To: Bomp@bolis.com Subject: Die Rattles, they called them... A song here, a song there. It's no way to live, I tell you! Is there a good Rattles reissue or reissues that showcases their music well(incidentally, the subject line is a lyric from their song "Finale Ligure") Brian Phillips http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar ------------------------------ From: Andrea Lauritzen Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:02:29 -0400 Subject: Re: Greetings! At 02:19 PM 9/12/96, you wrote: >> Todd Abramson is a tough person to get to know, but when you do, >> you'll find he is an honest guy who does so much for our scene. He may be >> very private or shy, but he is also a good guy. I simply adore his wife Cheryl!!! Andrea ------------------------------ From: User Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1996 18:05:13 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Pendletons, etc. Someone *please* post the addresses for any new Royal Pendletons records! Blair ------------------------------ From: Brendan Lepschi Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1996 08:49:42 +0800 Subject: Foot-shaped ashtrays... Regressing a few decades from the "The Knights of Fuzz", can anyone tell me if Nick Tosche's book "The Unsung Heroes of Rock 'n' Roll" is still available, and if so where I can get it, and how much its gonna cost me? I was told recently that it was out of print and it has proved impossible to get here in Australia. Any info gratefully received, Thanks, Brendan ------------------------------ From: "Laura Taylor" Date: 12 Sep 1996 21:51:21 -0400 Subject: the grave robberz Does anyone know: 1. If this name is already taken? 2. If I'll be sued should I use it? thanks! lounge laura laura@wusf.usf.edu ------------------------------ End of Bomp V96 #89 ******************* You have been reading Bomp-digest. For subscription requests, send a message to majordomo@bolis.com containing "subscribe Bomp-digest" or "unsubscribe Bomp-digest"