From: owner-bomp-digest@ (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@Bolis.com Subject: bomp-digest V1 #14 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@ Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@ Precedence: bulk bomp-digest Tuesday, January 21 1997 Volume 01 : Number 014 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:31:44 +0900 From: "Hitomi I" Subject: RE: Mustang Sally Hi T.P. I think Renegades wrote "Cadilac". Do you know Finnish CD or Record shop who accept international mail order? Renegades released only 4 singles in UK. But they released many songs in another European Countries.But to know about it is difficult for me. Swedish Hep Stars did the song too. And their first album title is "We and our Cadilac"! I have a Renegades' CD it is reissued in Spain ! Though it is not my fave car song, Hondels sung "little Honda". Japanese Honda song!. Is it about motor cycle or car?? Hitomi I ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Cutie Morning Moon '60s garage rock home page from Tokyo http://www.kiwi-us.com/~hitomi/ e mail hitomi@kiwi.co.jp ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - ---------- > 差出人 : T P Uschanov > 宛先 : Bomp@bolis.com > 件名 : Re: Mustang Sally > 送信日時 : 1997年1月21日 12:47 > > "Andrea Lauritzen" wrote: > > > Did the Renegades do Cadillac as in "Brand New Cadillac"? > > Yes. The master was made right in this city -- The Renegades > were enormously popular in Finland. They toured the country > extensively, and made four LPs just for Finnish consumption! The > first two are out on a back-to-back CD, although it may be > impossible to get in other countries. > > Favourite car song "Dodge Veg-o-Matic" by Jonathan Richman, > especially the rhyme of "parking lot" and "watch it rot", > T P Uschanov, University of Helsinki, Finland, European Union > tuschano@cc.helsinki.fi ### http://www.helsinki.fi/~tuschano/ > "Omnia praeclara tam difficilia, quam rara sunt." > (Baruch Spinoza, 1632-1677) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:41:11 -0500 From: "White, Rob E." Subject: ATTN: Michael Coxe Sorry to send this to the BOMP list for all to see, but I cannot get ahold of this person otherwise!!! Michael Coxe - please call me (301-594-9472) or email me privately (rob_white@nih.gov) in reference to the Audities list. I have tried to email you at your email address, but my messages NEVER get to you. Even though I receive the Audities Digest, I cannot post to that digest. Can you help mr Michael? Robbie White ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:28:51 -0500 From: "White, Rob E." Subject: Jimmy Silva CD I have a copy of Jimmy Silva & The Goats "Heidi" CD. The first person that offers 10 bucks gets it. Email me privately at: rob_white@nih.gov. Robbie White ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 08:55:27 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: Cah Song (sorry, Boston lingo) Yesterday I wrote: >I have another car song in my head, but whenever I get close >to recognizing it, it drives away!!! Gotta look through the >records tonight. I remembered last night while I was trying to get to sleep. It's "I Saw Her in a Mustang" by the Vandals (the 60s Vandals). Then I couldn't get to sleep cuz I was singing it!!! Well, it's a quasi-car song. - -Andrea who is exhausted today. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:14:49 -0500 From: Erica Wissolik Subject: Re: ASCAP/BMI *and* SESAC There are 3 of these organizations and all are known as "performance rights societies." All have different origins but in today's music industry, all 3 do basically the same thing for members, collect royalties from those who use your copyright in public places (as opposed to a mechanical rights society like the Harry Fox agency that collects royalties from those who use a particular recording) you only need to be registered with one but its to your benefit to shop around. All 3are offering different incentives to songwriters in order to coerce you into joining. E.G. ASCAP now offers health insurance, instrument insurance and a credit union. >>> Allan G. Waite 01/18/97 02:27am >>> Evan Davies wrote: > > >My question is: What's the deal with BMI and ASCAP - are they like > >unions or what? It looks like a publisher can't be affiliated with both. > > My *very* simple explanation is that they both do the same thing > (collect/manage public performance royalties on behalf of publishers (?)), so > you would only want one or the other - otherwise you'd be paying twice for I don't know about BMI, but ASCAP is sort of like a union for music writers. It stands fot the American Society of Composers and Producers. ASCAP protects proerty rights to songs, as they are written and performed. .... ASCAP collects money for all the writers when their music is played, sampled, covered, etc. and provides a registry for original material...like a copyright. >>>>>>>>. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:08:55 -0500 From: Don Smith Subject: BMI vs ASCAP There's an industry joke in there somewhere when the guy from MTV doesn't quite understand royalty payments... yuk yuk yuk ASCAP and BMI are royalty accounting firms who analyze broadcast, club, in-store and broadway performances to be able to provide money to songwriters when others perform their work (or stores, radio, etc plays their work.) It is extremely important if not mandatory that any band releasing a single sign up with either ASCAP or BMI, end of story. I have a friend who with a minor video and similarly minor radio hit got a check from BMI for $10,000 which was about as much as they made touring all summer. Smaller bands get smaller pay-offs but it's your songs, get paid for their performances... historically ASCAP only associated with big-time writers- ie- NO rock and roll, only standards, and I still think that BMI has a better accounting method for independent acts (you must pick only one through an agreement with themselves). How do bands get money? The radio station I used to work for pays a yearly fee (several thousand dollars) to BMI (we only had to sign up with one) and once a year BMI required us to write down everything we played one week and mail it to them. BMI took that info and presumably paid the bands we played out of our fee (minus, natch, their "operating expenses.") The songwriters, if they're signed up through BMI (which is an absolutely free service, charging the bands nothing- of course), got a check for our 'plays.' (this may have resulted in a "humorous" check to a band for $0.45 or whatever...)However, the bands must have kept legal control over the songs, which is how old bluesmen don't get any money- they sold the song rights years ago. Also, BMI and ASCAP have come under a lot of fire for charging stores and camps fees for playing the radio or staging sing-a-longs. IMHO, while it's close to extortion, they have been using the songwriters talents for years and I'd sooner see the songwriters get $$ then some for-profit camp or whatever. But a lot of good people have felt hassled... that answer anyone's question? Don ps- things are different outside of the US, by the way - --------- From: Evan Davies Subject: Re: ASCAP/BMI >My question is: What's the deal with BMI and ASCAP - are they like >unions or what? It looks like a publisher can't be affiliated with both. My *very* simple explanation is that they both do the same thing (collect/manage public performance royalties on behalf of publishers (?)), so you would only want one or the other - otherwise you'd be paying twice for the same service. I'm sure others on the list can correct/add to the above... Evan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 09:44:06 -0500 (EST) From: HayHuggins@aol.com Subject: Re: Mustang Sally Don't forget another great car song, "SS 396" Forget about yer Woodies & yer GTO's..... Shagg ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 1997 09:29:01 U From: "J. Emery" Subject: estrus fire someone asked what the deal is w/ the estrus fire. here is what i got = from d.crider: - -------------------------- The Estrus Bellingham Warehouses were completely destroyed by fire on Thursday evening (1/16). The cause of the fire is still unknown. A few things were = recovered, but overall, it has been estimated at a 95-98% loss. Crust Club members and mail order customers should recieve a postcard within the next week or so with more information. The office for the label is in a different location, so all financial, and other information = is fine. The majority of Estrus inventory is stored at our wholesale distributors warehouse in CA. and is unaffected. Stores can still get Estrus releases from Mordam Records (415-642-6800). For the most part only mail-order operations will be affected, all releases in print will remain so and all upcoming releases are still on target....however Crust Club and Quarterly mailings will be delayed. The entire mail order inventory was completely destroyed, as well as the majority of the Mono Men equipment (an amp and a few guitars were recovered). Dave also lost his personal record collection (including his copies of Estrus releases). All of the label's archives accumulated over the past 10 years were completely lost in the fire. During the next few weeks, Dave asks that people please not try and contact him by phone, they are just too busy sorting things out. Thanks for your patience and support and we hope to have things back on track as = soon as possible....... I will be posting some pictures as well as more information as soon as it comes to me... Thanks, Estrus Combustables Inc. - ----------------------------------- Estrus Records PO Box 2125, Bellingham, WA. 98227-2125 Tel/Fax: (360) 647-1187 http://www.pacificrim.net/~estrus/esq.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 10:18:37 -0500 From: mlawren1@explorer.csc.com Subject: Re: Mustang Sally Well, It ain't got no words, but: The Hearse (Astronauts) Also: the Buzzcocks' Fast Cars; & UK Subs', I Live In A Car F ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 10:32:25 -0500 From: Evan Davies Subject: Re: BMI vs ASCAP >There's an industry joke in there somewhere when the guy from MTV doesn't >quite understand royalty payments... yuk yuk yuk Hey, how's that cure for cancer coming along, Mr. health.org? ;-) Luckily for MTV (and the artists whose videos they play), I work in the Information Systems department, not Legal or Rights & Clearances! (And no, I don't design systems that have anything to do with reporting to ASCAP or BMI.) I knew someone out there would have a better explanation than mine... I just didn't know he'd be a wise guy! - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evan Davies "Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology" - I. Pop evan@funk.mtvn.com http://www.interport.net/~efd MTV Networks may deny all knowledge of the existence of this message. ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 10:29:39 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: Re: Mustang Sally Shagg wrote: >Don't forget another great car song, "SS 396" >Forget about yer Woodies & yer GTO's..... May we pull out THE ESTRUS GEARBOX??? (which could quite possibly be worth more than its weight at this point, eh?) LOTSA great car songs on that! Andrea BRAND NEW CHEVY!!!!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 11:44:14 EST From: denimdelinquent@juno.com (James R Parrett) Subject: Pebbles I'm a Pebbles virgin. Any recommendations on the best one to start? - - Jymn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 08:56:46 -0800 (PST) From: "D.J. Johnson" Subject: Re: Mustang Sally My fave is "Drivin' My Car" by The Basement Brats. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 97 12:07:47 -0500 From: Evan Davies Subject: Re: Mustang Sally It's not exactly garage-y or punky, but I always had a soft spot for "I'm In Love With My Car" by (gulp) Queen. And has anyone mentioned "Back of a Car" by Big Star? Evan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Evan Davies "Look out honey, 'cause I'm using technology" - I. Pop evan@funk.mtvn.com http://www.interport.net/~efd MTV Networks may deny all knowledge of the existence of this message. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:35:56 -0500 (EST) From: Lelia Ellen Raley Subject: Re: Fabulous Flipsides (was Re: Marmalade) On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, Frank Uhle wrote: > > On Sat, 18 Jan 1997, David J. Coyle wrote: > > This suggests a new thread to me... like there are some poppy hit 45s that > expose the wild side of a group on their reverse side. Well, there's "Put the Bone In" on the flip of "Seasons In The Sun" by Terry Jacks - I know, why did I EVER purchase such a vile excrescence? It was a quarter and I wondered about the Bside with the weird title. It is a DISTURBED ditty about a dog who's been hit by a car. Not in a league with "I Want My Baby Back" by Jimmy Cross, but sick nevertheless. Morbidly, Lola The Tremeloes have > this one flipside, "Let Your Hair Hang Down" which is either the flip of > "Here Comes My Baby" or "Silence Is Golden" I think. Those A-sides, while > pleasing late 60s Brit-pop, do not prepare one for the freakbeat action of > "Hair" with its amazing feedback guitar break and manic drumming. Oww! > I've bought about every other late 60s (Epic label in the US) Tremeloes 45 > & lp but nothing else is that cool. > > Another couple: "Sugar and Spice" by the Cryan' Shames (on Destination) > is backed with "Ben Franklin's Almanac" (also on their debut Columbia lp) > which is a blastin' bit of punkadelia, maybe the Shames' best cut? > > "Out of Sight" by the Buckinghams on USA is backed with "Don't Want To > Cry," some 3-chord mayhem of the first order with a blazing geetar break > (it's also on their USA lp). Again, maybe these guys' best cut? > > There are some others like this, anybody else have a fave? > > Frank > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 13:39:25 -0500 (EST) From: Lelia Ellen Raley Subject: Re: My Peeve Duh, but - what's an emoticon? This :-)? How do you read it? Technodolt, Lola On Fri, 10 Jan 1997 ccarlson@valsmtp.riag.com wrote: > Laura wrote: > > I also hope this is the year we abandon this whole "politically > correct" thing and instead rely on our own morals, consciences, and > instilled senses of right and wrong, > > Hey, that's pretty perceptive, you know, for a chick. > > :-) > > Craig > Who rarely uses "emoticons" (a peeve) but figured he'd better > this time. > ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 14:56:32 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: Re: Mustang Sally Dare I do it??? Okay, here goes: "here in my car I feel safest of all I can lock all my doors it's the only way to live in cars" - -Gary Numan Andrea ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 15:18:30 -0400 From: Laura Taylor Subject: better u heard it from me... Obit-Tom Parker URGENT ...than a *complete* stranger... (Las Vegas) -- Colonel Tom Parker has died. He was ElvisPresley's manager. Parker was a promoter credited with transforming Presley into anentertaining legend. Officials say he died today at a Las Vegashospital at 87. Lounge Laura's note: He was also (true story) the "dog catcher" here in Hillsborough County where I live in the 1930s... "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." Laura Taylor (813) 974-3733 ltaylor@wusf.usf.edu ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 15:24:28 -0400 From: Laura Taylor Subject: THE INDEPENDENTS My band, Thee Crypt Kicker 5, is playing with this band, the Independents, next week in Tampa. From what I've been told, they're "horror ska," something like the Specials meets the Misfits meets the 'Dolls or something...Anyone know anything about these kats? Thanks, Lounge Laura "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." Laura Taylor (813) 974-3733 ltaylor@wusf.usf.edu ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 15:27:48 -0400 From: Laura Taylor Subject: descendents reunion Anyone have any info on this, lin-up, songs, ALL-stuff, etc? Hey, ya' never know from me: Lounge Laura "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." Laura Taylor (813) 974-3733 ltaylor@wusf.usf.edu ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 15:32:31 -0400 From: Laura Taylor Subject: more mr. vegas The man credited with turning Elvis Presley intoa star has died. A longtime friend says Colonel Tom Parker passed away today at aLas Vegas hospital, from complications of a stroke. He was 87. Parker became Presley's manager in 1955. He helped the youngsinger get his first recording contracts and arranged his earlytelevision appearances. And in the process, Presley became anentertaining legend. ''Colonel'' was an honorary title bestowed on Parker in 1948 byLouisiana Governor Jimmie Davis. Presley called him ''admiral.'' Parker defended himself against charges he exploited his starclient. In 1993, he said: ''I don't think I exploited Elvis as muchas he's being exploited today.'' "It's just my nature to do weird stuff..." Laura Taylor (813) 974-3733 ltaylor@wusf.usf.edu ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 15:37:46 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Uhle Subject: Re: Mustang Sally I dig "Our Car Club" by the Beach Boys, among their many classics of the genre. Another that comes to mind is "GeeTo Tiger" by the Tigers on Colpix, it came with a pic sleeve and 3 different flipsides, one is a guy driving around a proving track wired for sound, with lots of cool car sound FX. But my current fave is "My Baby's Hearse" by Fortune and Maltese, on their "Konquer Kampus" lp. Frank ------------------------------ Date: 21 Jan 97 15:47:38 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: News on Estrus In case Phil hasn't forwarded this to the Bomp list, here it is, from the Estrus web page: (This message is a forward from the Estrus web page and confirms the rumor that I heard Sunday.) -dan - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Estrus Records Bellingham Warehouses were completely destroyed by fire on Thursday evening (1/16). The cause of the fire is still unknown. A few things were recovered, but overall, it has been estimated at a 95-98% loss. Crust Club members and mail order customers should recieve a postcard within the next week or so with more information. The office for the label is in a different location, so all financial, and other information is fine. The majority of Estrus inventory is stored at our wholesale distributors warehouse in CA. and is unaffected. Stores can still get Estrus releases from Mordam Records (415-642-6800). For the most part only mail-order operations will be affected, all releases in print will remain so and all upcoming releases are still on target....however Crust Club and Quarterly mailings will be delayed. The entire mail order inventory was completely destroyed, as well as the majority of the Mono Men equipment (an amp and a few guitars were recovered). Dave also lost his personal record collection (including his copies of Estrus releases). All of the label's archives accumulated over the past 10 years were completely lost in the fire. During the next few weeks, Dave asks that people please not try and contact him by phone, they are just too busy sorting things out. Thanks for your patience and support and we hope to have things back on track as soon as possible....... A number of people are stepping forward to try to organize benefit shows. In Seattle Diana Young & Chris Montecello are going to organize some and Art Chantry is going to do the posters. Here is their phone numbers if you want to contact them to find out how you can help out... (206)721-0975 ph. (206) 722-4395 fax ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 19:25:37 -0500 (EST) From: TweeKid@aol.com Subject: 1/21/97 Elvis' Manager 'Colonel' Tom Parker, dies at 87 LAS VEGAS (Reuter) - ``Colonel'' Tom Parker, Elvis Presley's manager for 22 years, died of a stroke on Tuesday, a friend said. He was 87. Parker died at the Valley Hospital in Las Vegas, where he had been admitted on Monday, said Bruce Banke, a close friend of Parker. Parker, a carnival worker in his early years, managed Presley's career from 1955 until his death in 1977, guiding the singer from obscurity to worldwide fame as a rock 'n' roll idol and movie star. The ``Colonel'' was an honorary title. ``He was the world's greatest manager in my estimation. He took a boy singer from the streets of Memphis (Tennessee) and made him into one of the world's greatest superstars,'' said Banke, retired publicist for the Las Vegas Hilton. ``He knew exactly how to market Elvis,'' said Banke, who got to know both Parker and Presley when the singer performed at the Las Vegas Hilton. Presley recorded a string of hit records and his legend has grown since his death at the age of 42. Banke said Parker was loyal and would not manage other stars. He and Presley were partners, BAnke said. ``It was more of a father-son relationship than star-manager,'' he added. Parker told Variety in 1994 that he had had lots of offers to write books about Presley but had turned them all down. ``You know what they want -- dirt,'' Parker said. ``I'm not a dirt farmer.'' Parker worked in carnivals before beginning to manage singers in the 1940s, eventually signing the young Presley. Some accounts have portrayed Presley and Parker as having had a stormy relationship and suggested that Parker managed the star's life with an iron fist. A 1994 article in the San Diego Union-Tribune noted that Elvis purists viewed Parker as ``the devil who traded the singer's rock 'n' roll soul for the demon Hollywood dollar.'' But it said Presley was quoted by a biographer as saying: ``We more or less picked each other.'' Dick Clark, executive producer of a television movie about Presley and Parker, told the Los Angeles Times in 1993 that, in the early years, Parker received 25 percent of Presley's income. In 1967, he increased his take to 50 percent, he said. Clark said he believed Presley and Parker had a love-hate relationship. Little is known about Parker's early life. The 1993 edition of the Almanac of Famous People lists Parker as probably born in 1910 in Breda, the Netherlands, and lists a variant of his name as Andreas Cornelius Van Kuijk. Movie star Ann Margret, who starred with Presley in ``Viva Las Vegas!'', issued a statement saying she was sad at Parker's death and would miss him very much. ``He has been a part of my life since I was very young and from that time he had always shown me kindness and support,'' she said. Parker is survived by his wife, Loanne. Reuters/Variety 19:10 01-21-97 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 20:24:05 -0500 (EST) From: Phil Lerman Subject: Re: Mustang Sally CAr songs I groove to: "Fast Cars" - Buzzcocks "Frat Cars" - Big Boys "Dead Man's Curve" - Jan and Dean (esp. 'cause of the irony) "Cars" - Gary Numan "Rapture" - Blondie A lot of the "Drag" songs on the Surf and Drag series and the Surf Set box set (Sequel imprt 3xCD) - -pHIL http://www.picante.com/~phil htlaehruoyotsuodrazaherasegassemsdrawkcab ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 18:35:33 -0700 From: "Allan G. Waite" Subject: Re: The Cryan Shames "Ben Franklin's Almanac" > Speaking of "Ben Franklin's Almanac" by the Cryan Shames, can anyone tell > me what it is about? The few lyrics I can make out really seem to have > nothing to do with Ben Franklin... > > || David J. Coyle // E-Mail: dcoyle@bright.net || > || Chillicothe, OH // Another minimum-wage college graduate || > ====================================================================== I haven't heared the song, but I know a little about ol' Ben and his almanac published by him under the nom de plume "Poor Richard" Early to bed and early to rise Allan Waite ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 23:39:31 -0500 From: Paige Conner Totaro Subject: Re: Get Well Manfred! Oh I love Manfred so! Please get well feel better etc.! The hottest of the red hot fireballs! Yum! But I cannot disparage the rest of the best band of the nineteen nine tays. You boys all rock! Along with other faves the Hate Bombs and the Royal Pendletons. Mwa! Miss Laura I hear wondrous thangs 'bout you too. When will you make it up here to our nations cap-i-tal for to show us your stuff? Anxiously awaiting - Paige ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Jan 1997 22:54:28 -0700 From: "Allan G. Waite" Subject: Re: Mustang Sally Hitomi, you wrote: > Though it is not my fave car song, Hondels sung "little Honda". > Japanese Honda song!. Is it about motor cycle or car?? I think it is about the motorcycle. Hondas were VERY popular with American young people in the mid to late 1960s! Japanese motorcycles were inexpensive, well made, lightweight and fun (good power to weight ratio!)compared to Before Japan brought Hondas and Yamahas to the U.S. in the early 1960s, Americans had little choice but to buy heavy, expensive Harley-Davidsons and British motorbikes. I have an old friend who ran a motorcycle shop in the 1940s-1970s, and he told me about the "good old days" before Japanese motorcycles came to the U.S. Those days weren't so good! This is probably more than you ever wanted to know! Allan Waite P.S. If you have any doubts, I think at least one of the Hondell's album covers pictures them with Honda motorcycles. Also check out the Jackson 5 album cover (about 1971) showing the boys with their mini-bikes! ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V1 #14 *************************