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bomp-digest          Sunday, January 26 1997          Volume 01 : Number 019




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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 08:31:55 -0800
From: Chris Barrus <xibalba@pacificnet.net>
Subject: RE: Cars

>Can't imagine that such a simple and obvious name as The Convertibles 
>wouldn't 
>have been used by now, though. Maybe a check of some systems like MUSE will 
>turn something up, also check the rosters for BMI and ASCAP to see if anyone 
>files under that name. If the above draws a blank, you're probably safe in 
>trying to lock up the name.

There's a band here in L.A. named Convertible - not quite the same, but 
they also had an amazing amount of trouble coming up with a name that 
isn't already used.

- -c.


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Chris Barrus - No-Fi, IndieWeb, etc | "Who wouldn't want the Eyes of
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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 08:46:21 -0800
From: dothepop@ix.netcom.com (Lisa Lindstrom)
Subject: Re: bomp-digest V1 #18

Lisa Lindstrom wrote:
> Actually, I think the Heats albums are pretty weak.

Hi,
Ooh! "Have An Idea"  is one of the Lp's I can't pick up anywhere...
If you had an extra copy and would like to trade (or sell)
it ... please contact me....
and let me know some stuff you're looking for....
Pierre

PS: I live in France...

Sorry, don't actually have the album (only the first two singles), just 
heard it. By teh way, The Heats moved down to L.A. and changed their 
name to...The Heaters!

RE: Iron Butterfly. Saw 'em a long time ago back east, at some lame 
country-blues-rock bar in Kingston around 1988. They were really, 
really awful. They played some contemporary Top 40 covers, some oldies, 
and some of thier own tunes including what seemed like an endless 
version of "In A Gadda Da Vida." I don't know who was in the group, but 
I think it was the lineup that recorded their last LPs in the late 
'60s/early '70s. I kept shouting for "Flowers & Beads" but they never 
played it. I'm sure they thought "who is that lunatic?"  The opening 
"act" was a Tribute to Hendrix guy who dressed like Hendrix and tried 
to play guitar like him but sounded more like Steve Vai or something. 
Really putrid. He "jammed" with the 'Fly for their encore...

Alan W.  

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 15:19:03 -0800
From: Jeff Penczak <leapday@world2u.com>
Subject: Re: John Cale/musical "heroes"

tgassen@azstarnet.com wrote:
> 
> > William von Hagen/ Lounge Laura wrote: >>John Cale really did suck ...
> > >
> > >   Bill
> >
> > That's a bad story!  I really am sorry to hear that....because I am a BIG
> > John Cale fan! Still, I LOVE THE MAN, even if he is a cjerk!  Hey, who says these guys have to be *nice* anyway!  Look at Dylan! :)
> > Lounge Laura
> 
> My advise to anyone who really has an emotional attachment to any of
> their musical heroes: don't meet them if at all possible, you never know
> what kind of personality you're going to get! My interview experience
> with John Cale last year was a pleasant one, but it was clear that he
> could be difficult very quickly if something rubbed him the wrong way.
> Over the years I've been both lucky and unlucky when meeting some of my
> "heroes" -- and yes, I do think that they should usually be "nice," just
> like the rest of us, whether in a professional capacity (interviews,
> gigs, etc) or at a chance personal meeting (parties, etc.)
>         Maybe I'll give some of my funny examples some other time, but
> how about some anecdotes from other Bompers: what "brushes with
> greatness" can you share? Good experiences? Jerks? "Heroes" to talk to or
> steer clear of?
> 
> Best,
> 
> Timothy Gassen
> http://www.azstarnet.com/~tgassenTim et.al.,

The two best experiences I've had meeting my heroes were Joan Jett and 
Graham Parker. Admittedly, I worked for Joan as Prez of the Fan Club and 
also sold merch at her shows, but I also had the opportunity to see her 
interact with her fans after the shows. (Hell, I even had to guard the 
backstage/dressing room door until she was ready to come out and/or let 
the fans in.) She was always very courteous with anyone who was 
interested enough to hang out and wait to talk to her. 

My experience with Joan also illustrates a trend that some folks may not 
be aware of which is simply this: the artist you want to talk with may be 
prevented from doing so by their manager/tour manager. Joan would have 
loved nothing more than to hang out at the bar and chat, but her manager 
often was the one who dragged her off (back to the hotel/next gig/"big 
name" interview, etc.) and I think some fans may have got the (wrong) 
impression that this was her doing.

As to GP, it has only been in the last few years that we have become 
friendly with him (we are even thanked personally on the liner notes to 
the current tribute CD (Piss & Vinegar). Graham's personality/attitude 
towards his fans may be different now than it was 20 years ago (even I 
will admit, he's no longer an A list draw concert-wise), but I have seen 
both sides of the coin in those 2 years. When we saw him at Tramps in 
NYC, the tour manager/club rep? we spoke to was very rude and gave us the 
bum's rush when we asked if we could go back stage to get an autograph 
and say hello. However, when we saw him at a small club down the Jersey 
shore, we had no problem getting backstage to get that autograph and 
chat. Then, when the rest of the crowd thinned out and the roadies were 
loading up the tour bus, GP came out and sat at the bar and we had a very 
nice, long talk with him. He then started to recognize us at future shows 
we attended (even to the point of waving to us from the stage of the 
Bottom Line in NYC!) and we have never had a problem being allowed 
backstage to talk. When he recently appeared in concert to promote the 
tribute CD, he publicly thanked us for the idea and even invited my wife 
to come up onstage "and explain yourself!"

So in closing, I would just say that the circumstances surrounding the 
"meet" probably have a lot to do with the performers attitude towards 
you.

Best,

Jeff

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 13:24:39 -0800 (PST)
From: John Chilson <newsline@sandiego.com>
Subject: Re: John Cale/musical "heroes"

My brush with a musical hero came in the late 80s when my band (The 
Trebels) opened for Chuck Berry here in San Diego. First off, we had a 
healthy amount of Chuck Berry covers. ABSOLUTELY NO CHUCK BERRY songs was 
what the promoter told us. Good enough. We obliged. Anyhow, there was a  
line to have Chuck sign stuff (he was in a surly mood--he sat in his 
car out in the parking lot between sets). There were a few people in 
front of me that had their items signed. Chuck signed my snare head ( 
with a smiley face even!) and I thanked him and walked away. Welp, I 
guess he'd had enough cuz the guy after me was denied. Chuck: "No more 
autographs". Guy: "That's cool. I understand, Mr. Berry". Chuck: You 
BETTER F*CKIN' understand!" Good ol' Chuck Berry. jc

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 97 21:35:00 GMT 
From: g.nicoll@genie.com
Subject: Heats/Wreckless Eric

Ahh, the Heats!

Geez, it would take the Internet to drag that name up again. <grin> In 1980
I went to see Heart (ya know, the Wilson sisters, "Crazy on You,"
"Barracuda," etc.) at the Augusta Richmond County Civic Center in Augusta,
GA. The Heats opened up, playing a very endearing set of uptempo pop. The
only song I actually remember from the set was "Do You Wanna Dance" because
it made a huge impression on me; at the time I'd just got ROCKET TO RUSSIA
with the Ramones' cover version on it, so the song was high in my mind.
After the set I bought a 7" of the Heats' "I Don't Like Your Face" from the
merchandise table in the lobby.

And, until I logged on this morning nearly 17 years later (!) I'd never,
ever heard another word about the Heats!

Glad to know they had some kinda regional Northwest following, at least.
They surely deserved better.

As for WRECKLESS ERIC, if any of you are completists for his stuff, you
oughta call Casino Music in Atlanta and see what that sweet little label has
in print. (Tell'em Greg Nicoll sent ya!) Casino's chief executive officer is
a very successful restauranteur named Clay Harper who also dabbles in
singing (and even runs Casino Recording Studios, where Mick Jagger cut a
solo project last April). Harper brought Wreckless Eric over to Atlanta a
coupla years ago and the guy was here for months, recording and performing.
The resulting records have trickled outa Casino's vaults very slowly, but
there was one full-on Wreckless album credited to THE HITSVILLE HOUSE BAND
which didn't even have Eric's name on the outside packaging (!) and Eric
also did a lotta work on one of the CDs by Clay's band, an outfit called the
Ottoman Empire. During 1996, Clay issued a solo single each month on a
subsidiary label, Casino Royale, all of which were executive-produced by the
Clash's Kosmo Vinyl. Wreckless Eric appears on several of these, I think, as
do other celebs such as Moe Tucker of the Velvet Underground. (Casino
Music's address is 881 Ponce de Leon, Atlanta, GA 30306.)

- -- GREGORY NICOLL

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 19:11:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Frank Uhle <franku@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Iron Butterfly

Our radio station has an old promo lp with an interview with these guys
from around '70 or so.  It's hilarious to hear them talking (seriously!)
about how they are going to record their next lp in a diving bell because
it will have some groovy effect on their voices or some such thing (the
proposed title was "Music of the Deep").  They are interviewed by some
"hip" sounding dj who acts like he's talking to the likes of the Beatles
or Stones, but of course our heroes are the "Stoned," not the Stones.

Frank

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 18:36:38 -0600
From: paddygav@kcnet.com (Paddy (or Steve))
Subject: brush with fame

During a Buzzcocks show in Kansas City (1992?) I had the privelege to spend
a few minutes talking with Steve Diggle after the show. I was curious about
his interem band, Flag of Convenience, which may have been why he was
interested in talking to me. He was a really down to earth guy, but all too
soon he was whisked away to do whatever Buzzcocks do after a show.
Also, I interviewed Emitt Rhodes after finding his name in the phone
book(!). He was very cooperative, considering I had just called him out of
the blue. We talked for a long time about stuff after the official
interview. Granted he is no where near as big as a lot of musicians, but I
was a little aprehensive at calling him initially.
I have realized for some time, especially in hearing horror stories from
some, that stars can at times be cocks, but I suppose even I would tire of
strangers telling me how great I am.

How do I get there?
http://kcnet.com/~paddygav/images.html

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:37:58 -0500
From: Josh Lewis <joshlew@bway.net>
Subject: Re: brushes with greatness

At 04:19 PM 1/25/97 -0500, Craig wrote:

>     
>     I played pinball with Johnny Winter around 1971. He seemed like a 
>     regular guy, considering.
>     

I can second this one. I had a chance to interview him 2-3 years ago, and he
was incredibly nice (and a good interview as well.) He's so fragile in
appearance, though, that I felt as if he'd break in two if I sneezed.

Chrissie Hynde (sorry about the spelling) initiated a conversation with my
girlfriend a year or so ago on a subway in New York City. C.H. complimented
her on her shoes (which had a fake fur pattern) and then asked with a smile
if she was mentioned in the history of punk book my girlfriend was reading.

Josh

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Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1997 21:39:29 -0500
From: Paige Conner Totaro <ptotaro@erols.com>
Subject: Russ Myer

Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1997 09:40:52 -0500
From: Don Smith <dsmith@health.org>
Subject: no golden turkey awards here

I hope this didn't go through twice...

In my opinion Russ Meyer is the only living Auteur in American Cinema,
followed closely behind by Woody Allen.  He single-handedly creates a
vision unlike any other director working in the last-20 years.  In
some of his later desert films, like Beyond the Valley of the
Ultravixens, he was (I believe) the only cameraman, a man in his late
50s lugging cameras up and down mountain sides only to hide himself in
the editing suite and *edit* the films himself. (Woody, who I think
has done great work, surrounds himself with how many assistants?).
 Call me a film nerd, but there is no other director who created such
a personal vision on film.  Beyond the Valley of the Dolls is my
favorite film and arguably the best film ever made (director John
Waters described Meyer's Faster Pussycat, Kill Kill as "the best film
ever made, possibly the best film that will EVER be made." -so there
is considerable argument on the subject).

Roger Ebert described Russ's style in that he hates the moving camera
and sets up each shot from a stationary position.  Then he edits the
films with a rapid-fire technique which predated MTV by 15 years.  The
best rapid-fire editing example is the Cocktail Party sequence in BVD,
which is mind-numbing in it's quick-cut intensity.  Milos Forman, I
believe, said (I'm paraphrasing) "Americans require movies to act like
psychedelics and Beyond the Valley of the Dolls does just that."
 William Goldman, (Butch Cassidy, Marathon Man, Fierce Creatures,
Heat) who is oddly considered one of the great screenwriters of our
day, first called Russ in the early 80s the "only living American
Auteur."

When I first discovered garage music I thought these bands who could
come up with amazing riffs, great lyrics, and a generally wild sound
were criminally ignored.  I wanted to get out there and promote this
amazing music to the masses.  Sure, there are plenty of Long John and
the Silvermens where the attraction is someone with little talent
singing their hearts out, but great bands, like Russ Meyer, must be
appreciated for their achievements which thumb their nose at the
mainstream.  Are the Shaggs incompetent teens or does their music take
rock and roll to a new level?  I don't want to listen to the Bobby
Darins or the Jay and the Americans any more than I want to watch
films by James Cameron or Bob Zemeckis.  They're successful by
pandering to the mainstream and ignoring avant-garde artistic
vision... I gave up on that years ago.

Hell, I'd be as happy watching Ebert slam the dumb-ass studio hacks as
a critic as I would reading Lester Bangs run-down the Eagles and
praise the Count 5.  'Cuz the Count 5 really ARE better than the
Macarena, Home Improvement, Wonder Bread and the Gap.

Don

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