From: owner-bomp-digest@ (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@Bolis.com Subject: bomp-digest V1 #22 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@ Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@ Precedence: bulk bomp-digest Wednesday, January 29 1997 Volume 01 : Number 022 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 23:38:09 +1100 (EST) From: Eddie Fung Subject: Re: brushes with greatness The closest I got to greatness was interviewing Iggy Pop back in '78 when he did a promo tour in Australia. The interview was set up by the University newspaper that I ocassionally wrote for - I think I got the job because no one knew who Iggy was. Anyway I went up with a buddy of mine to the Hilton Hotel where he was and had about an hour with him. He was very congenial but also 'hyped' up as per normal Iggy and we covered a whole range of topics before we had to go. Iggy autographed my copy of 'Metallic KO' by printing his name in capitals - well at least I know it's Iggy's autograph. The interview got published but the editors took out our discussion of James Williamson's guitar work ('too technical' said they). Anyway Iggy topped himself when he went and stuffed around when lip synching 'I'm Bored' on national television and I thought yep ! That's why we like the guy ! Cheers, Eddie ******************************************************** * Address Mail to me with 'EDDIE - READ THIS in the Subject Header * ******************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:23:54 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Poust Subject: Re: Fabulous Flipsides That reminds me of a "neapolitan" tape I once made with The Chocolate Watchband, Vanilla Fudge and Strawberry Alarm Clock. Granted, the three bands don't go that well together on one tape, but it seemed like a cool idea at the time! Brian Poust At 07:43 PM 1/28/97 -0800, Gary M. wrote: >> I started a tape once with these songs: >> >> Run, Run, Run - The Gestures >> Run, Run, Run - Sly and the Family Stone >> Run, Run, Run - The Who >Best, >GaryM (who remembers loving both the Gestures & 3rd Rail tunes on AM) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 09:47:00 -0500 From: William Jones Subject: Mid-80s Golden Era Andrea wrote: > I met the drummer for the church. I think his name is Marty or Martin. I believe the drummer for The Church (a while back) was Richard Ploog, but you may have met guitarist Marty Willson-Piper. Don Smith reminded us: > There was a time and it was called the mid-80s. bands like REM (Who, lest I remind any of you, covered the Clique's "I am Superman.") got shuttled into top 40 radio. Bands like the Fleshtones attracted huge crowds in large venues in Washington, DC. The Cramps played 2000-seat theaters, almost arenas... The Slickee Boys were all over MTV. The Lyres released top 10 (college charts) lps. The Bangles (nee Bangs) became superstars. The Cynics were so huge they played Washington, DC almost every month, selling out almost every show, their video appeared on MTV at least once... Ahhh, and what a time it was. Thanks for the memories Don!! Not to be too nostalgic, but you're right about this period being a golden era. Peter Zaremba was doin' a fine job as host of The Cutting Edge on MTV, The Vipers and Mosquitos shared a bill at The Ritz (one of NYC's largest clubs), Del Fuegos did a Miller beer commercial, The Mosquitos won Best New Rock Band in the New York Music Critics Awards, and The Raunch Hands were nominated for an award. (They don't have these anymore, do they?) The Smithereens did fairly well with their albums on Capitol. All signs of "mainstream acceptance." But, unfortunately, The Three O'Clock and Bangles attracted the attention of Prince and seemed to shift direction somewhat. Lola told us: > Chuck is a mean, mean man... He doesn't bother to tune his guitar either, and generally seems contemptuous of his own work and his fans. Yes, but why?? He's certainly achieved a great amount of recognition and success over the years. Bitter cause he wasn't bigger than The Beatles? Sad. Brian Poust told us about some film Chuck was in, and I'm curious about it (not that I want to see it). Where did that very ugly scene appear? That "Superstar" movie sounds eerily brilliant. Anyone have a copy and willing to dub it? Send private e-mail if you'd like. Paddy (or Steve) asked: > Have you ever wondered if in thirty years some small labels will start putting 80's garage bands on disc, and calling them lost gems? Sure, but why wait thirty years? Do it now! ; ^ ) Hold on to those masters... Be seeing you, Bill ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 10:44:43 -0500 From: Don Smith Subject: Dave Markey, Brushes w/ Greatness >I stopped and said "Hey, you guys are the >Presidents aren' you?" And they were and intoduced themselves to us. >They were rather pleasant and polite. I swear I don't want to be a snot, but once the singer from the Presidents of the United States came up to me and said, "Are you the Don Smith who does that fanzine?" Of course, I had to admit I was. Does that count? Actually, real Bomp-ish brushes include catching Lawrence and the Arabians re-formed in 1988. Meeting a dude from the Rising Storm who lives in Alexandria, VA. The original singer from the Strawberry Alarm Clock in DC- For some reason I think he was not in Thee Sixpence... those were pretty much unrewarding and eye-opening about garage music in general, since they "grew beyond" their high school/ college projects and regarded me warily. Naw, Dave Markey (not Marquis, although it could be an Ellis Island translation) definitely did not do Superstar, the Karen Carpenter Story. He is most famous for directing Redd Kross in Desperate Teenage Lovedolls and later Lovedolls Superstar. He made "1991 the year that punk broke" with Sonic Youth and did dozens of short films with them and Mike Watt, etc. Essentially the whole LA, Rollins/ Joe Cole crowd. His most recent video is a group of short films called Rap Damage which really doesn't strike me as bomp-style material, though I got a kick out of it. I just got to the part of the digest where they copied Desson Howe's piece about the film. I saw it in DC then, it's really briliant. A very touching piece, after 10-15 minutes you lose track that this is a film starring Barbie Dolls. The film succeeds because of that. Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 08:20:32 -0800 From: dothepop@ix.netcom.com (Lisa Lindstrom) Subject: Re: Wipers Alright, I can't take it any more! You mentioned the Wipers twice in your message. I've got to admit that this has, since the mid to late 80's, been one of my favorite bands. BUT, I've only heard them on record or CD, have they EVER toured? I heard that Greg Sage moved to the southwest (first I heard the Austin area, then I heard Arizona). Any information about the Wipers or Greg Sage would be appreciated. My wife and I have been scanning the Chicago Reader every Thursday for over five years and we're secretly afraid that we might have missed 'em playing in some small club. Did they ever play clubs and will they ever tour again?! David The Wipers haven't toured in ages. In fact, they played live for the first time in years at NXNW in Portland a few months ago. I don't know if they plan to tour or anything these days. Greg's kind of a hermit and lives in Tempe, Arizona now, and has for the last few years. "The Heard," their latest CD is pretty good. My wife, Lisa, interviewed Greg for an article on The Wipers and their new album, which was printed in the latest issue of The BOB. She saw them a few times back in the early '80s. I, however, was not so fortunate. If you've ever heard the live album called just "The Wipers," that was culled from shows she was at. Alan W. ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 97 11:36:46 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: Mid-80s Golden Era >I believe the drummer for The Church (a while back) was Richard Ploog, >but you may have met guitarist Marty Willson-Piper. No! Sorry! It was Richard Ploog! I remember not be able to read his last name when he wrote it. I didn't meet Marty. I just mixed up the names. >Peter Zaremba was doin' a fine job as host of The Cutting Edge on MTV, Ah, yes, and so began my love affair with the Fleshtones and Peter! Does it count that the Prime Movers' video for "True to Me" was shown almost daily on V-66 (Boston's local answer to MTV)? Not national mainstream acceptance, but pretty darned impressive if you ask me. >Brian Poust told us about some film Chuck was in, and I'm >curious about it (not that I want to see it). Where did that very ugly >scene appear? I had read about it in "Spy" magazine, and this guy in New Orleans claims to own a copy! He supposedly has many sick videos such as that one. I think Chuck either filmed it himself, or it was filmed without his knowledge. Several copies were made, and BOOM! instant notoriety. Moral of the story: Don't videotape anything you wouldn't want the world to see. And don't do anything where a video camera could be hiding! Paddy (or Steve) asked: > Have you ever wondered if in thirty years some small labels will start putting 80's garage bands on disc, and calling them lost gems? >Sure, but why wait thirty years? Do it now! ; ^ ) Hold on to those >masters... There are several great bands around the world, and several great singles that come out and then the band breaks up, the single is in the cut out bin. Someday these bands will show up on BACK FROM THE GRAVE VOL. 32 or another such comp, and get recognition years too late. Don't let this happen! Let's keep these gems going, and show our support! Andrea ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 12:03:39 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Poust Subject: Re: brushes with greatness Lou Reed was one of the keynote speakers at the CMJ convention in NYC a few years back and entered the room wearing a full length fur coat and was surrounded by 6 very large bodyguards. That was pretty sad. Even Jesse Jackson didn't have that much security. Incidentally, Iggy also spoke at that CMJ and was far more interesting than Lou Reed (and Brian May, of course). On that same trip, Thurston Moore came into a record store and told my friend that he was about to pay too much for the Sonic Youth LP in his hand. There's egg on your face! Brian Poust At 01:44 PM 1/28/97 -0800, you wrote: >a couple of years ago my wife and i were in nyc for a visit and i was holed >up in some tiny dark record store down in the village, flipping through >stacks of dusty old vinyl. the door to the shop opens and in walks lou reed >with two younger, male companions. at least it looked like lou reed, because >this geezer was old, with lots of graying curly hair in a mullet/michael >bolton style and a very wrinkled face. with his tight lips and bugged out >eyes, he looked like a lizard. he was wearing prescription glasses and a >three quarters length dark leather coat like on the cover of 'new york'. >also black jeans and black boots. > >'could that really be lou?', i asked myself. he looked so much different >than i would have expected him to. as soon as he opened his mouth, asking >the store owner if he had any elvis presley 45s, and i heard that deadpan >monotone voice, all doubts were cast aside. immediately my pulse shot up >from 70 to 170 and i broke out into a sweat. oh shit oh shit oh shit, mr. >cool nyc, ostrich guitar, crazed feedback, sister ray, what goes on...lou >reed right in front of me. > >mustering up my courage, i approached. 'hey lou', i blurted out, 'i just >recently bought a copy of the velvet's third album with your closet mix'. >'what closet mix?!', his tone of voice was irritated, annoyed, 'i don't know >what you're talking about'. i pressed on, 'you know. the third album, there >were two mixes, your original and one by val valentin...'. my voice trailed >off. surly silence from lou. suddenly i felt as if i were harrassing him. > >'oh yeah, you're right'. the lizard broke out into a genuine smile. 'i'd >forgotten all about that. well good for you. i'm happy to hear people still >enjoy my music'. he signed a flyer i was holding, 'to roger, all the >best....lou reed', and left as abruptly as he had entered. > >anyone else have any lou reed encounters? > >roger > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:38:51 -0500 From: Josh Lewis Subject: Re: brushes with greatness At 02:44 PM 1/27/97 -0500, Lelia wrote: >"Chrissie Hynde" is spelled perfectly - take back that apology! > I take it back (boy, was that lucky spelling). Somebody mentioned the Ramones, so I figured I'd also mention that my girlfriend [who has much more exciting encounters than I - hey, she met me, after all :)] won a contest on WDRE and got to go onstage to introduce them at The Ritz in '92(?) [My girlfriend insists I mention that it was not a "12th caller" contest; it was a talent contest in which you had to audition on air.] Anyway she got to hang out with the band, who were all very nice- blah blah. She was also introduced to Joey's parents, who were also very nice. After the show, Joey's mom, after witnessing the mosh pit, went up to Joey and said, "Joey, I'm worried about the kids. They're gonna get hurt doing that." Joey replied (with a Queens accent): "Maaa, they're kids, it's o.k., they do it all the time..." Joey's mom then started singing "We're a happy family," which was a little surrealistic according to my girlfriend. Josh Lewis ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:26:52 -0500 (EST) From: Lelia Ellen Raley Subject: Re: Mean ol' chuck Not a film I ever saw! What, where, when? What an utter TURD! Lola On 28 Jan 1997, Andrea Lauritzen wrote: > > Brian P wrote: > > > >Almost forgot about ol' Chuck! This is the man who was filmed urinating in > >some poor girl's face and yelling at her! > > I was going to mention this but thought better of it (the subject matter is > too disgusting)! > > Andrea > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:35:09 -0500 (EST) From: Lelia Ellen Raley Subject: Mean Chuck/Sweet B.B. Recently stood in line for an hour and a half to buy, and get signed, B.B. King's autobio, and he was brief with each fan, understandably, but gracious as could be, and had already spent an extra 45 minutes at this event, according to his publicist (this is a 72-year-old man, y'all). He wasn't signing the posters, guitars, record jackets, etc. that were hopefully toted along, but his minions *were* giving out promo postcards, guitar picks and lapel pins and we thought he was a prince of a fella. He accepted my husband's bashfully-offered tape of his band and remarked that the LP he'd brought along, "My Kind of Blues" was his own very favorite. Lola On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, Brian Phillips wrote: > Apparently, I got off light. I bought his autobiography in DC. He was > there to sign it and he was a machine, no conversation, just signatures. > This was fine by me, since that was why I bought the book, instead of > waiting for it to come to the library( a strategy that served me well when > I found that Stan Freberg's autobiography was very short, because he > planned to split it into two volumes!). > > Back home, > Brian Phillips > > >Almost forgot about ol' Chuck! This is the man who was filmed urinating in > >some poor girl's face and yelling at her! > > > Brian Phillips > http://www.mindspring.com/~hagar > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:40:33 -0500 (EST) From: Lelia Ellen Raley Subject: Re: Fabulous Flipsides I KNOW there are others! E.G. is there not a "Run, Run, Run" by the Supremes? Lola On Tue, 28 Jan 1997, gary mollica wrote: > Brian Phillips wrote: > > > > Run, Run, Run was on Vol. 9. I thought that that was the hit side (#44). > > > > I started a tape once with these songs: > > > > Run, Run, Run - The Gestures > > Run, Run, Run - Sly and the Family Stone > > Run, Run, Run - The Who > > > > I also could have used Run, Run, Run by the Third Rail. The great part > > about this is that NONE of these are the same song! > > Back in the 70s when I was on radio, I'd do all 4 PLUS Run Run Run by > the Velvets! > > Best, > GaryM (who remembers loving both the Gestures & 3rd Rail tunes on AM) > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:56:39 -0500 (EST) From: Brian Poust Subject: Re: Mean ol' chuck It wasn't a released film. An old college roomate had a video of celebrity porn type stuff (funny more than sexy, scary more than entertaining) and the Chuck Berry footage was in there. I think he got it from Film Threat or one of those mondo weirdo style outfits. Brian Poust At 02:26 PM 1/29/97 -0500, you wrote: >Not a film I ever saw! What, where, when? What an utter TURD! > Lola > > >On 28 Jan 1997, Andrea Lauritzen wrote: > >> >> Brian P wrote: >> >> >> >Almost forgot about ol' Chuck! This is the man who was filmed urinating in >> >some poor girl's face and yelling at her! >> >> I was going to mention this but thought better of it (the subject matter is >> too disgusting)! >> >> Andrea >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 97 21:07:49 UT From: "Bill Holmes" Subject: RE: Fabulous Flipsides Am I the only person who remembers "Run Run Run" by JoJo Gunne? Great song...at the time. Bill Holmes** bholmes_fm@msn.com http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8282 VISIT THE WEBSITE! NEW RANTS AND LINKS WEEKLY ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ "I'm not afraid of you, you're very nice in fact you've got it all but now I'm bored of being sycophantic so get your knickers down" SLEEPER , "Factory 41" (from THE IT GIRL) ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ - ---------- From: Bomp-Sender@bolis.com on behalf of Lelia Ellen Raley Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 1997 2:41 PM To: Bomp@bolis.com Subject: Re: Fabulous Flipsides I KNOW there are others! E.G. is there not a "Run, Run, Run" by the Supremes? Lola > > I started a tape once with these songs: > > > > Run, Run, Run - The Gestures > > Run, Run, Run - Sly and the Family Stone > > Run, Run, Run - The Who > > > > I also could have used Run, Run, Run by the Third Rail. The great part > > about this is that NONE of these are the same song! > > Back in the 70s when I was on radio, I'd do all 4 PLUS Run Run Run by > the Velvets! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 21:19:05 +0000 From: Steve Coleman Subject: Re: Lost Gems Paddy wrote : >Have you ever wondered if in thirty years some small labels will start >putting 80's garage bands on disc, and calling them lost gems? If my home >town was any indication, I would say probably not! Isn't this happening to a lot of the local punk bands which existed in the late seventies. I recently saw a compilation of obscure UK punk-rockers selling for fifteen quid. Reminded me of Pebbles and Boulders all over again. Secondly how many musicians with songs released on 'Back from the Grave' would agree with your last point. Quite a few I would imagine. The thing I would like to mention about the Standells, Seeds, Electric Prunes, ? etc is that to many people they remain obscure, forgotten or worse derided. Sure a lot more people are *hip* to them thanks to Big Beat, Sunzdazed, Rhino etc but they are still pebbles (sic) in the musical ocean. It saddens me to think that the Kingsmen will be forever considered as an incompetent shambles. Remember beauty is in the eye of the beholder ...and all that! \\|// (-0-0-) - ------oO-(--)-Oo--------------------------------------------- Steve Coleman scaf@pro-net.co.uk The Fleshtones Hall of Fame http://www.pro-net.co.uk/scaf/fhof.html - ------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: 29 Jan 97 17:02:22 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: Pebbles in the musical ocean To paraphrase Steve Coleman: >The thing I would like to mention about the Standells, Seeds, Electric >Prunes, ? etc is that to many people they remain obscure, forgotten or worse >derided. Or, of course, "one-hit wonders"!!!! >It saddens me to think that the Kingsmen will be forever considered as an >incompetent shambles. Do you think many people judge a band by their musical ability (they must be guitar geniuses, etc.) and not by their spirit, energy, enthusiasm? I seem to encounter this time and time again. I've also seen incredible musicians who are just playing by the numbers and have absolutely no personality while they play, and sometimes don't even seem to be enjoying themselves!! My favorite bands are not only the ones with the great songs, but the ones who, when they are on stage, look as though they are loving every minute. God Bless the Monarchs - (I stole this from a sticker of theirs; sorry!) (and other great fun bands)! - -Andrea P.S. I never did get to see the Monarchs, but any band whose singer falls down 83 times unintentionally during a performance is great!! Plus they did cover "Lipstick on your collar" and "Baa Baa Black Sheep". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 14:26:29 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Barrus Subject: LIST ADMIN: Please read! This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. 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In a message dated 1/29/97 9:35:48 PM, you wrote: <<> >Almost forgot about ol' Chuck! This is the man who was filmed urinating in > >some poor girl's face and yelling at her!>> Presumably, that was the promo clip for "Wee Wee Hours". If you liked that one, there's another tape going around which might be termed the video for "Too Pooped to Pop". I'll leave it to your imagination... Greg ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1997 20:02:05 -0500 (EST) From: BillM45s@aol.com Subject: Re: Fabulous Flipsides In a message dated 97-01-28 20:13:23 EST, you write: >Run, Run, Run was on Vol. 9. I thought that that was the hit side (#44). > >I started a tape once with these songs: > >Run, Run, Run - The Gestures >Run, Run, Run - Sly and the Family Stone >Run, Run, Run - The Who > >I also could have used Run, Run, Run by the Third Rail. The great part >about this is that NONE of these are the same song! And you could have added Run, Run, Run by the Velvet Underground and Run, Run, Run by Jo Jo Gunne (not so good) and a few others I can't think of here at work. Bill ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:25:23 -0500 (EST) From: dcoyle@mail.bright.net (David J. Coyle) Subject: Re: Mean Ol' Chuck/The Gestures/Emmit Rhodes, etc. Re: Chuck The Music vs. Chuck The Person >I think it makes him all the more subversive and ROCK-N-ROLL, man... >Hail, Hail... >Lounge Laura It is a shame that Chuck is such a surly old man. Legal and certain moral problems aside. I've watched the "Hail! Hail! Rock and Roll" documentary a couple times and was surprised at how grouchy he was, especially when pressed about his personal troubles. In the whole show he only looked happy when he was playing his music. Now if he's allowed to talk on _his_ terms, he seems okay. That would explain his autobiography. I have a tape of a Chuck Berry CD called something like "More Rarities From The Chess Vaults," which includes an alternate take of "Johnny B. Goode," where Chuck stops a few seconds into the intro and starts yelling at his piano player (Lafayette Leake) for supposedly playing the piano line from "Roll Over Beethoven" (Chuck: "On the _solo_ you were playin' 'Roll Over Beethoven,' stay away from that..." Leake: "But, you --" Chuck: "JOHNNY B. GOODE TAKE THREE!!!"). So obviously his surly nature isn't anything new. He was just a good actor for the cameras (playing the kindly role model in Alan Freed flicks). The thing about Chuck Berry is that you either hate his music because "it all sounds the same" or you absolutely love his songs and look up to him as a rock and roll god because of his ultimate influence. Chuck Berry chord structures (with Bo Diddley beat) were _the_ rock and roll standard until the Kingsmen banged out "Louie Louie" almost a decade later. To me, all rock and roll comes back to "Louie Louie" and "Johnny B. Goode." In any case, if you fall into the latter category when it comes to Chuck as a musician/idol, then you seem to care less about Chuck as a person. It's the music that counts, despite everything else. Re: The Gestures/"Run, Run, Run" >> This was a GREAT group, with a killer track "Don't Mess Around". >> "Run, Run, Run" taint too shabby either. > >Yes, I just played it to death on Pebbles Vol. 9 (or was it 10?) >before getting the 45...! Was "Don't Mess Around" one too, or did >it remain unreleased until the Sundazed album? According to the liner notes of the Sundazed album, "Don't Mess Around" was the flipside of "Candlelight," and "It Seems To Me" is the flipside of "Run, Run, Run" of course. Everything else is previously unreleased. There is a typo on the back cover (of the CD, at least) implying that "It Seems To Me" is unreleased and that the cover of "She Cried" was the flip. The liner notes straighten this out. >Run, Run, Run - The Gestures >Run, Run, Run - Sly and the Family Stone >Run, Run, Run - The Who Wasn't the Who version a cover of yet another version of "Run, Run, Run"? I seem to remember something said to this fact mentioned in the remastered "A Quick One" CD... I remember hearing the Gestures version soon after (I don't _have_ the Who CD) and thinking "This isn't the Who song..." and soon after realizing the same thing about the Third Rail version. Re: Emmit Rhodes/MGR >Emitt Rhodes didn't even know what was released on his old stuff. He >mentioned that his old guitarist had a Japanese version of the MGR LP on >disc, but I don't think he had even listened to it. I for one would love to >see that stuff re released,as the Versase(?) cd left out so much good >material. I was looking through the LPs in a Goodwill store the other day, which mostly ends up with gospel, Christmas and easy listening stuff. It's surprising all the stuff you see advertised on LP liner sleeves that you just wish you could find on CD, that just hasn't been put out yet. Anyway, I think it was an Andy Williams LP and one of the records advertised inside was the Merry Go Round's "Live" LP. Now if Varese can see enough marketability to release a compilation of solo Rhodes stuff, why can't they do the same with MGR? Re: Garage labels >The problem with garage becommiing so popular is that the cost of old >records goes up. I am guilty as hell too, as I have only discovered the >great sub hits of the 60's in the last five years. It's great though, to >have labels like Bomp, Arf Arf, and Sundazed (to name only a few) re >releasing all of that stuff. If they could only do it faster dammit faster! What is worst is when you know something is going to be reissued within the year and you are counting the days only to see said re-ish get pushed back a week or a month or more. I was looking forward to One Way putting out the Nashville Teens "Tobacco Road" LP with bonus tracks, and it's now two weeks past due... I'm waiting with baited breath for the upcoming "Hits And Rarities" Knickerbockers set, "Black Monk Time," the Luv'd Ones compilation, the Syndicate Of Sound "Little Girl" album, etc. Wonder how many of these will get pushed back (the Monks even got wrote up in "Billboard" this week). || David J. Coyle // E-Mail: dcoyle@bright.net || || Chillicothe, OH // Another minimum-wage college graduate || ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1997 00:25:34 -0500 (EST) From: dcoyle@mail.bright.net (David J. Coyle) Subject: "Black Monk Time" gets hyped I was thumbing through the latest issue of "Billboard" yesterday and was surprised to find a looong article about the upcoming "Black Monk Time" reissue on Infinite Zero (Feb. 11) starting right on the second page. It talked about how the Monks were almost forgotten until they got a write up in "Goldmine" by Greg Shaw a few years ago (I think that's how they said, I don't have the mag in front of me) and how they had developed a bit of a cult following. Described their somewhat prescient use of fuzz boxes and cranked up amps, their odd costuming style, their subversive lyricism (making special mention of titles like "Shut Up" and "I Hate You"). Their place in the seedy Hamburg club scene that had also shaped the Beatles. It also mentioned that some original members of the Monks got together in the past few years, did some gigs and put out a 7" of "Don't Ha Ha," a cover of an old song by fellow Hamburg expatriates Casey Jones and the Governors (a group led by former Liverpool Cassanova Brian Casser, which at one time included Eric Clapton) for sale at shows. Seems to me from reading the article that they plan to give the Monks a bit of exposure as the release date looms, planning extensive advertising in "Billboard" and "Goldmine" etc. Not bad for a reissue of the only album by a group that never even played in the US and broke up 30 years ago. All I've ever heard by this group was a few seconds of "It's Monk Time" downloaded off the Monks homepage. Can anyone tell me of any other groups from the time period that their sound could be compared to? I'd like to know at least a _little_ more about this group before I plunk down the money for this disc. || David J. Coyle // E-Mail: dcoyle@bright.net || || Chillicothe, OH // Another minimum-wage college graduate || ====================================================================== ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V1 #22 *************************