From: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@Bolis.com Subject: bomp-digest V98 #10 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com Precedence: bulk bomp-digest Thursday, January 8 1998 Volume 98 : Number 010 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 15:55:18 -0800 (PST) From: Jeff Williams Subject: The Flames - See the Light One of the coolest songs I ever heard, I just noticed they have their own freakin' homepage! Aaaauuuuggghhh! No, really, it's great. It's home.worldonline.nl/~mollyb/docs/flames.html ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 16:08:54 -0500 (EST) From: DEENAC@Queens.Lib.NY.US Subject: Love, exciting and new... Yo, Evan, don't be dissin' Jack Jones. The man's got a smooth croon. Plus, he was a big influence on the vocal stylings of one of my dreamboats, Scott Walker. (Don't even try to tell me how that's merely further proof of J.J.'s squareness.) Flaming Deena ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 20:15:22 -0500 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: Jay Schwartz wrote: > > I hate to speak ill of the brain-dead so I probably shouldn't even respond > to this, but I'm sure the majority of list-readers here recognize Sonny > Bono as one of the more skilled pop-craftsmen of the '60s I'd personally like to know exactly what the "pop-craftsmen" like Bono and Spector have to do with real 60's rock'n'roll in the first place! Leave that crap to boring commercial oldies radio fer cryin' out loud. kopper - -- ===================================================================== | Kopper & Jaimz - THE WAYBACK MACHINE - KDHX FM 88.1/St. Louis, MO | | The past, present and future of primitive garage rock'n'roll, R&B,| | 60's punk, surf & rockabilly - Saturday nights, Midnight-3am (CST)| | Visit The Wayback Machine website: http://www.inlink.com/~kopper/ | ===================================================================== ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:17:52 -0500 From: "ART" Subject: The Remains Can anyone tell me about the Remains? I just got their Sundazed comp. CD and I wasn't that impressed. I'd heard so much great stuff from people I guess I was expecting more. Any of you Boston cats (JJ, Andrea, etc..) have the lowdown on this band? What are their best recordings? Art ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 7 Jan 98 21:20:15 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: >I'd personally like to know exactly what the "pop-craftsmen" like Bono >and Spector have to do with real 60's rock'n'roll in the first place! >Leave that crap to boring commercial oldies radio fer cryin' out loud. Kopper... Are you truly telling me you don't like any 60s pop? That you don't enjoy some Phil Spector productions?!? Man! That stuff can send me into orbit... incredible melodies, often great vocals, and SOUNDS! Blair - ------------------------------------------------------------- (The Teen Scene)............. ftp://ftp.etext.org/pub/Zines/TeenScene (NY Concert Calendar)... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/nygarage.html (Garage Tours).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/tours.html (Garage Fests).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/fests.html (60 Second Swinger)..... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/60second.html - ------------------------------------------------------------- ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 21:09:32 -0900 From: link@sun-link.com (Colburn-Greg) Subject: Re: Bono or BoYes? We're all gonna take that long dirt nap one day. I'm not out to deify the man, but he did write a number of good songs. Let's leave it at that. Greg ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 04:32:29 +0200 From: "T P Uschanov" Subject: On pop-craftsmen like Bono and Spector On 7 Jan 1998 at 20:15, Jeff Kopp wrote: > I'd personally like to know exactly what the "pop-craftsmen" like Bono > and Spector have to do with real 60's rock'n'roll in the first place! (a) Ellen Willis tells it like it is in her classic 1979 essay on the Velvet Underground: ".... as a vehicle for [the] impulse [to make music that united formal elegance and defiant crudity], rock and roll had unique advantages: it was defiantly crude, yet for those who were tuned into it it was also a musical, verbal, and emotional language rich in formal possibilities. The Who['s] and the Velvets['] .... basic aesthetic assumptions have all shared this conception of rock and roll; their basic aesthetic assumptions have little to do with what is popularly known as 'art rock.' The notion of rock-as-art inspired by Dylan's conversion to the electric guitar -- the idea of making rock and roll more musically and lyrically complex, of combining elements of jazz, folk, classical, and avant- garde music with a rock beat, of creating 'rock opera' or 'rock poetry' -- was from the rock-and-roll fan's perspective a dubious one. .... But from the early sixties (Phil Spector was the first major example) there was a counter-tradition in rock and roll that had much more in common with 'high' art - -- in particular avant-garde art -- than the ballyhooed art- rock syntheses: it involved more or less consciously using the basic formal canons of rock and roll as material (much as the pop artists used mass art in general) and refining, elaborating, playing off that material to produce what might be called rock-and-roll art." (b) Case in point: the quintessential example of the above 'rock-and-roll art' phenomenon in action in real sixties r'n'r is the notorious V7-I-IV-I craze, which was brought into rock from Latino-American music ("La Bamba," etc.) by "Twist and Shout," the original version of which was produced by (ta-da) Phil Spector. (c) Especially now as I'm writing a prospective doctoral thesis on fifties/sixties rock in the mirror of cultural philosophy, I constantly have to confront the question "But isn't r'n'r too much fun to be art?" This, to me, reflects a rather popular, but nonetheless false view of 'art' as necessarily something hectoring, pretentious and elitist, which is the exact opposite of the definition dictionaries -- accurately -- give for art; my answer has always been that unlike 'art rock,' r'n'r is fun *enough* to be art. Discuss. "I have tried too, in my time, to be a philosopher; but, I don't know how, cheerfulness was always breaking in." --Oliver Edwards T P Uschanov tuschano@cc.helsinki.fi +358 (0)40 584 2720 Visit my home page! http://www.helsinki.fi/~tuschano/ ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 20:49:53 -0600 From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Re: Nik Venet also dies T.P. writes >Nik Venet, credited with discovering the Beach Boys for >Capitol Records, has died of complications from treatment for >Burkitt's lymphoma. He was 61. Did he have anything to with the Beach Boys recording of "Cease to Exit", written by Charles Manson? Hess ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 22:45:52 -0500 From: wigout6@juno.com (William H Jones) Subject: Crates / Eva / Sins Someone wrote: > I just brought home a milk crate from work and LPs don't fit in it. And Blair asked: > Are you using the square ones or the rectangular ones. The square ones are too small. The rectangular ones, tho', fit in at least one direction... Speaking as the son of a deli man, I've lifted my share of milk crates. And the rectangular crates have the same width as the square crates, and both are just a *little* too narrow for record jackets (unfortunately). If memory serves me correctly, they are wide enough for either two one-gallon containers, or three half-gallon containers. You can, however, fit the records in either crate (more in the rectangular) if they're tilted a bit. Menachem, if I write Bill Finnerman and ask for a catalog, is he going to write back asking me to send him a buck or two? Just trying to save some postage for both of us. Also, is Vol. I of that series the same Sound of the Sixties set that has ? and The Mysterians doing "Smokes," The Creation doing "That's How Strong My Love Is," The Syndicate of Sound doing "Little Girl," and The Shake Spears doing "The Shake Spear"? If so, that's a very cool 2-record set that I'd love to get on CD! Please confirm that it's the same compilation, if you can. Thanks much! Sorry I'm gonna miss The Original Sins' farewell shows this Friday and Saturday - if you can make it (whoever you are) you should try to be there!! If anyone can tape these gigs, that'd be great. But better bring a dozen cassettes with ya. Be seeing you, Bill ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 22:06:53 -0700 From: Menachem Turchick Subject: Re: Crates / Eva / Sins William H Jones wrote: > Menachem, if I write Bill Finnerman and ask for a catalog, is he going to > write back asking me to send him a buck or two? Just trying to save some > postage for both of us. Also, is Vol. I of that series the same Sound > of the Sixties set that has ? and The Mysterians doing "Smokes," The > Creation doing "That's How Strong My Love Is," The Syndicate of Sound > doing "Little Girl," and The Shake Spears doing "The Shake Spear"? If > so, that's a very cool 2-record set that I'd love to get on CD! Please > confirm that it's the same compilation, if you can. Thanks much! Yep, the very same. You don't get the big French EP booklet, though. I'm pretty sure Finneran will just send you a catalog - he's got a space on his order form asking for the address of anyone interested in receiving one. Menachem ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 1998 00:13:57 EST From: LemonJimm Subject: Re: R.I.P. Sonny In a message dated 1/7/98 6:30:36 PM EST, shepherd@garply.com writes: > Frank Uhle wrote: > > > > Sonny has some cool wax if you look for it, though. Trashy, but cool... > > "Pammie's on a Bummer," a heavy one (!) > Don't forget that he produced the Standells first few 45's. And he was > pretty good in 'HAIRSPRAY'. > > Free Tracy Turnblad! > > Kip OK, what's the name of the album that "Pammie" is on? The title track is another classic. Jim ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Jan 98 01:37:07 UT From: "Bill Holmes" Subject: RE: Dug Dugs Si, Bono No! Hey Ray: When LOS DUG DUGs surf into a tree, we'll talk about them, promise. In the meantime, listen to "It's The Little Things", "Needles And Pins" and so forth and repent. No one is saying Sonny Bono was the slickest wolf in the henhouse, but he made his mark in his time. Bill ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. 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