From: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@Bolis.com Subject: bomp-digest V98 #38 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com Precedence: bulk bomp-digest Saturday, January 24 1998 Volume 98 : Number 038 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 07:39:09 EST From: PETEP Subject: Why Did Kids Of the 50's and 60's Have Better Bands? Why was a lot of the really great music of the 50's and 60's being made by youth(under 25?) Why are the best bands of today all mostly well over 25? That is a major difference in music. Some have stated on this list that if these 18 year olds are into watered down music now, maybe they will get into real rock 'n' roll in the future. But why is this so. Why were the cool surf, garage, and rockabilly cats all in their teens or early 20's back in the 50's and 60's? They didn't need to get educated, like today's kids, they had it all along. I'll tell you why. It's because back then, it was the formation of rocknroll. That is the music you heard when you were a kid and turned on top 40 radio. Real rocknroll was all around, so the kids couldn't be helped but be into Elvis, Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, etc. The young rockabilly kids wanted to emulate Elvis, the young garage bands did their best Stones/Beatles/Byrds/Zombies/etc. The influences were real rocknroll, therefore you had more great music being created. Nowadays, the kids never heard of these acts, and they are being influenced by acts from the eighties or early nineties. So it's no wonder that the music is watered down. The further in years we get removed from the 50's sound, the harder it will be for people to understand real rocknroll. So don't just blame the kids, it's not their fault. They don't have the exposure to the real stuff. Some who hear the real stuff will understand, while most never will care enough to wanna know the difference. Pete ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 23 Jan 1998 23:59:51 -0800 From: rckshift@juno.com (Timothy G Hayes) Subject: Re: Are the kids REALLY alright? man, i'm here to tell ya(i'm sure ya know already). jon horne used to tell me stories o' the parties the chalmers family had @ the beach a few years ago. he said he almost drowned trying to grab the keg floating in the cold water, sitting by the keg tryin' to make sure the beer wouldn't sink. me him & his brother joel would go on & on for hours witha few homebrews down in texas playing their collection of silvertones and passing out in the garage. sure do miss those fuckers. do the chalmers still have their summer gathering? who loves ya babe? .......tim On Fri, 23 Jan 1998 07:50:06 -0500 (EST) Blair Buscareno writes: > > >On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Kenne Highland wrote: > >> are we talking the chalmers brothers of portland maine? all i know >from >> my last portland gig is that kristen chalmers is back on keyboards >in >> the brood and i WILL be doing more brood gigs!(it was our new years >> resolutuion!)the brothers seem to be hopelessly obscure-maybe ill >ask >> their mother! > > Same Chalmers Brothers. And their mom, Nancy, is an absolute >blast. When she comes down to NYC we all have a great time. > > Blair > >==================================================================== >To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with >"unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use >"unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. > ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 08:09:15 -0500 From: kennehighland@webtv.net (Kenne Highland) Subject: the rat lives! as i sit here hungover as hell and listening to coffee and smokes i may as well tell those of you in boston what you all missed last night.night opened with dogmeats own varmints which is 3/4 classic ruins with an ex-jumper cable;ex-real kid and drummer pete taylor who also plays with me.then the knee tremblers-two dogmatics/one ohalloran and a stranglehold(VERY 80s!)then deniros-john of boys life with drummer from last stand.band 19-yes riche of unatural axe.last-the eaters-steve cataldo;alpo(real kids!) on bass and billy boomboom loosigian on guitar.clebrities in the audience=A0at this night of rat rock were the bristols(inspiration for behind the wall of sleep)gang greens chris=A0doherty ex-gizmo billy nightshade myself and tommy stinson from replacements(i told him=A0he should write a song called kenne highland but by that time i had outdrank chilton who was not only there in spirit but spirits!) middle east owners said they should do this once a month-i agree!lets not forget monodrunk-already gone by varmints 930 set;i did clink beers with him and said-dont give it up now! tonight kirkland cafe somerville at midnight-alice highland;my cooper tribute act-see you boston bompers there! Kenne Highland Kenne Highland Clan http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palms/2913 ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:54:56 PST From: "John Stanton" Subject: these kidz While I can't say that a helluva lot of what constitutes popular music for people, say under 18, does a lot for me (I'm 38), what I find far more distressing is hearing some people's attitudes towards the kids themselves, as if they have no right to like something that sucks. Jeez, did some of you bother to read your postings after you sent them in? Ooooh, there was a show and some kids were being irresponsible! Shock horror. I went to a show and a kid bumped into me. I saw a kid with a nose ring. WOW! Do you realize that basically you're sounding exactly like the uptight parents and other adults that you hated during your youth? Let's cast our minds back a few (or more) years. I'm sure that we can all remember plenty of things that we listened to/watched on tv/etc that bit pretty fuckin hard. Another thing that people need to wake up to is the fact that the 50's and 60's weren't some idyllic time when Gene Vincent/Seeds/ Count Five were on the radio 24 hours a day. Look at the charts from 30+ years ago and for every cool song you'll find a LOT more garbage than good. While commercial radio has changed to the point where you're not going to find a lot of good stuff on it, there are radio shows that play good rock 'n' roll, old and new. Some of those people are on this list fer crissakes! If there wasn't SOME kind of ongoing interest in the stuff that people on this enjoy listening to, this list wouldn't exist. I just find it hard to believe that people who rant and rave about how wyld and untamed things should be could cop an attitude that makes Spiro Agnew sound like John Sinclair. Kids are kids, and probably the same ratio that are into good music now will be subscribers to this list 10 years from now. John S gonna practically ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:51:32 -0500 (EST) From: Drum Wolf Subject: punk lists? Hey Bompers, Between the current "today's kids and back then" discussion here and my recent purchase of a singles comp CD by GBH, I'm feelin' mighty hungry for some good old '80s British (GBH, Exploited, Subhumans) and American (Naked Raygun, Minor Threat, Cro-Mags, Bad Brains) punk/hardcore, so if you know any mailing lists where I can talk about this stuff, please email me privately. John Lee ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jan 98 11:02:25 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: RE: Kids today got no ... > Tuvan "throat singing"? My freshman year roommate (Fall '83) used to be into that stuff. In fact, he'd keep trying to do it. And that was one of the more normal things he did. Despite the fact that the FBI came to our room ("Fraud by wire, Pip," they said as they strode into our room only two nights before our first college finals), he was an extremely interesting person to live with. Made life kinda fun. Tuvan "throat singing" - wow, it's been *years* since I've heard anyone mention that. Blair - ------------------------------------------------------------- (The Teen Scene)............. ftp://ftp.etext.org/pub/Zines/TeenScene (NY Concert Calendar)... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/nygarage.html (Garage Tours).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/tours.html (Garage Fests).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/fests.html (60 Second Swinger)..... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/60second.html - ------------------------------------------------------------- ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jan 98 11:16:32 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: Are the kids REALLY alright? >Now I tutor kids in high school and younger and as far as I can tell there >is more involvement in music nowadays. I have encountered a few kids who >have their own 'zines and lots who are into music you can't hear on the >radio. There certainly seem to be far more kids going to shows now, than >there were when I was in high school. (I'm only speaking for this area) DEFINITELY!!! As a high school teacher, I can tell you that, while it's true that many kids listen to stuff I consider to be crap, there are also many heading out of suburbia and into the city to see cool shows. If I go see a Lookout band in Manhattan, I'm almost guaranteed to see one of my students. Same thing goes for The Muffs. And I've also got kids who are very into Man or AstroMan? and check them out whenever they come to town. Some of their minds are also quite open. In fact, I'd venture to say *many* of them have listened with open ears when I put on a CD that I enjoy. A couple of my kids absolutely LOVE when I bring the Best of the Untamed Youth in. They actually *ask* for it! And a few do fanzines or write for them. And I encourage them mightily in this area. I've got a new course starting on Monday dealing with Desktop Publishing and Graphics and 'zines *will* be a topic of conversation, I assure you. We'll probably also mention webzines, since they're so much more affordable (if you've already got a computer in the house, that is). >I think old ska kicks the shit out of most of the new ska-like bands True. However, I do like a couple ska bands that've been around for a number of years. (The Scofflaws, The Blue Beats, etc.) What I don't much like is the glossy-pop (with a nod to punk) version of ska that seems to be popular now. >Same goes for the kids who are into the 'new punk' that some here have >criticized. If the kid is into it, he or she will eventually be turned on >to the older stuff or the better newer stuff. I've made tapes for kids I >tutor and they are totally receptive to stuff other than what already know. I agree. I remember my cousins liking a Guns'n'Roses version of a Dead Boys' song... so I played them a Dead Boys tape when they were in my car one day coming back from the beach that summer. They went WILD! >I do think, though, that it's rare for kids to find their way to garage bands. Certainly it's harder. I think that's because there's not much in the way of glossed-out garage in the mainstream for them to hook into and then dig back. However, eventually a few find their way in. Some do so via older friends; some by college radio; others from fanzines; and many other routes, of course, including luck. >With the internet it's even easier for the kids to find new stuff. A lot of >them do. It's like that game six degrees of separation - if a kid/adult is >really into music, it doesn't take long for them to get to the better stuff >and/or the roots. If they're not into music, they'll just listen to the >radio and whatever their friends play. Same as it ever was...... Same as it ever was. 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Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:12:42 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: Today's darn kids, again At 11:43 AM 1/23/98 -0500, jOHN lEE wrote: >As for myself, I listened to hard rock most of high school and didn't even >start to listen to punk rock until shortly before I graduated in '87.> sAME HERE, EXCEPT i GRADUATED IN '76. i DON'T THINK THINGS ARE ALL THAT DIFFERENT UP HERE IN nOWHERESVILL, ALSO KNOWN AS tHUNDER bAY, oNTARIO. Weird paradox that mANY of us who dig primitive teenage rebellion rock & roll, WRITE FOR tEEN 'ZINES and are generally crazed cave-teens didn't get this way until we left our teens! In other words,, I was just as square, lame and clued out about really cool music as today's kids until I hit my 20's and got turned on to the likes of the Fleshtones and Chesterfield Kings. This in turn led me back to re-discovering some of my childhood faves like the Kinks, WHO my babysitter TURNED ME ON TO WHEN SHE BROUGHT OVER "All Day And All Of The Night" back in '65. Now my musical thrills are EXCLUSIVELY PROVIDED BY 60's or 6T's-based garage-punk, psych, beat, surf, power pop and other bompish stuff. Go figure. Back in University, I once thought of writing a sociological thesis on musical taste,, but in retrospect I think it's one of those unsovable mysteries that defies understanding. Any half-baked theories out there? rOCKY 8 YEARS OLD IN '65! ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jan 98 11:30:35 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: Today's darn kids, again I graduated high school in 1983. Northport, Long Island... about an hour out from NYC on the North Shore. Over 2000 kids spread over grades 10-12. Nobody knew everybody. Heck, nobody even knew everybody in their own grade. (Now I teach in a school that has about 450 kids total in a school that covers grades 7-12.) Anyway, my musical tastes at the time ranged from Van Halen and Rush thru the Clash & the Pretenders and then back to Elvis, Danny & the Juniors, etc. Not to mention The Kinks (very big at the time I was in junior high and high school), The Stones, etc. There were kids who were more exclusively into punk, of course. But I don't recall anyone ever getting beat up because of it. I never found myself to be a part of one particular group... I was in a bunch of advanced classes, so I knew that crowd pretty well, but I'd played soccer for years (though I didn't go out for the school team 'cuz I was taking all classes/no lunch most of my time in HS), so I knew that crowd pretty well. I was always involved with the theatre productions, so I knew that gang. And I'd been in the band thru 11th grade (in 12th I opted for computers over band, since they were both last period). As for the "popular" crowd... things weren't quite that cut and dried for us. I'd known a bunch of what some might consider to be that group since we were young, and we stayed friendly. One of my closest friends was a cocaptain of the cheerleaders. (And, I'm happy to say, we're still close friends to this day.) As for the "stoner" crowd... just more people I'd known throughout my childhood. The amazing thing is that they weren't bugging me to smoke, get high, etc., 'cuz they just already knew I was straight. Yeah, for me it was pretty great. Still, my girlfriend (not to mention some other friends of mine who were her year), who graduated three years after I did, said she hated high school. I'd say the whole experience is an extremely individual thing. However, as John said, sure there were jerks, but I don't recall anyone ever getting beat on because of musical tastes. Blair - ------------------------------------------------------------- (The Teen Scene)............. ftp://ftp.etext.org/pub/Zines/TeenScene (NY Concert Calendar)... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/nygarage.html (Garage Tours).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/tours.html (Garage Fests).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/fests.html (60 Second Swinger)..... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/60second.html - ------------------------------------------------------------- ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 24 Jan 98 11:40:32 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Untamed Youth Just got some photos in the mail today that my girlfriend took with Rager's camera when the Untamed Youth played the Court Tavern in New Brunswick, NJ in August. A couple will no doubt appear in the next Teen Scene. Rager also writes in to say that the Untamed Youth will be heading to LA in early March to record their next LP. YEAH! I'm hoping they'll come to NYC again this summer. And maybe we can hook up an all-ages show for them, since a couple of my students would really love to check them out. Blair - ------------------------------------------------------------- (The Teen Scene)............. ftp://ftp.etext.org/pub/Zines/TeenScene (NY Concert Calendar)... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/nygarage.html (Garage Tours).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/tours.html (Garage Fests).................. http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/fests.html (60 Second Swinger)..... http://shell.idt.net/~blairb1/60second.html - ------------------------------------------------------------- ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:15:20 -0800 From: "Sadie O. McFarlane" Subject: RE: Kids today got no ... > My freshman year roommate (Fall '83) used to be into that stuff. >In fact, >he'd keep trying to do it. Sounds like my dream date! > >Tuvan "throat singing" - wow, it's been *years* since I've heard anyone >mention that. Oddly, it just was mentioned about 3 days ago on the Rockabilly list. I think it was Tom who made a typo while saying that we were in danger of muddying the definition of rock and roll to the point where we'd call Tuvan throat singers "coygoy music" - to which I felt compelled to reply that they were more "yak-goy", really. Got no response, either. Harumph. Anyway, the Tuvans are probably preparing for usurpation and domination of the weak popular music scene in the US even now... - - Sadie O. ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:08:18 -0800 From: "Sadie O. McFarlane" Subject: Re: Why Did Kids Of the 50's and 60's Have Better Bands? > The influences were real rocknroll, therefore you had more great music >being created. Nowadays, the kids never heard of these acts, and they are >being influenced by acts from the eighties or early nineties. So it's no >wonder that the music is watered down. The further in years we get removed >from the 50's sound, the harder it will be for people to understand real >rocknroll. So don't just blame the kids, it's not their fault. They don't >have the exposure to the real stuff. Some who hear the real stuff will >understand, while most never will care enough to wanna know the difference. It's awful damn early in the morning to be getting all depressed! I think you're probably right, though. Why did we let the kids go astray? It was our duty to help them to learn to rock! Woe.... - - Sadie O. ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 09:52:25 -0800 From: "Sadie O. McFarlane" Subject: RE: Kids today got no ... >At least some these current acts (on Canadian radio) have some >respectable influences. >Unfortunately, my daughter listens to too much of that bland crap that >permeates the music >videos. Me, I'll take the Stooges, Eno, Jazz, Celtic, African, you name >it. Maybe it's something they're permeating feminine hygience products with - my daughters are the same way. I keep flailing at them, howling "can't you see this stuff FAILS TO ROCK???" And they say they have a right to their tastes. Of course they do - but it would be more satisfying if their tastes weren't both bland and dictated by TV... >Have you any of you out there checked out John Zorn or Tuvan "throat >singing"? Now THAT'S New Wave. Or then again, maybe it's some kinda >punk. Regardless, as long as it's not that mindless, boring, commercial >pap that some record execs try to inflict on the masses. Love them Tuvans! Track 57: "Red Deer Mating Call" GROOOONNK!! GRAW-OOOOOOOOOOO-ONKONKONK!!! Gets ya boppin' along, fer sher! - - Sadie O. ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 10:00:49 -0800 From: "Sadie O. McFarlane" Subject: Re: Peter Greenberg / garage fans >Sean wrote: >> I think it's the internet. I've been into the stuff for nearly 8 >years, and I've still never spoken to another garage fan in real life. > >I'm surprised to hear this. Back in '84 or so when I discovered garage >music after seeing The Mosquitos on Long Island (and meeting Blair) and >then venturing into NYC to find a thriving garage scene, it was the group >of people that were as important as the music. See, when I was a kid in the 60's, EVERYBODY I KNEW listened to the 13th Floor Elevators, just as everybody had listened to Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs, and also listened to the Jefferson Airplane and the Mothers of Invention - it was all groovy rock and roll, it was all on any FM station worth its salt. We also all listened to our friends bands, in the garages, and often played in them ourselves. Only the REAL SQUARES were NOT into garage bands! Maybe I was just lucky, I dunno... - - Sadie O. ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:16:15 EST From: Tawsurf Subject: Re: The Damned In a message dated 98-01-23 20:50:35 EST, you write: << Were they any good or should I save my money? >> go go go!! they are always fun when i've seen em....you gotta go! retodd ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:45:23 EST From: SWarm007 Subject: REM at the Roller Rink Bill Jones wrote: << Heck, I remember seeing the Dream Syndicate and REM at a roller rink in East Setauket >> Hey! I went to that show. A pal of mine won tickets from WUSB. I remember at one point Pete Buck was standing at the edge of the stage and some numb nuts detuned his guitar. That roller rink booked the Fixx a couple of weeks later and no one came. They lost a ton of money and never had another show there. Scott W. ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 13:48:16 -0600 From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: Environment John Lee has written: I'd be curious to know what kind of environment the rest of you grew up in. Well........ I grew up in a semi-secluded environment in one-horse-town-like-conditions, about an hour south of St.L. My schooling was mostly a joke. People drew sides, I remember witnessing many a jock/freak brawls after school in the Dairy Queen parking lot. Musically, besides the very few record geeks, people were spoonfed by a local shithead classic rock station called K-SHE 95. If it wasn't on kshe, it didn't exist. In h.s. it was either Slayer/Metallica/Anthrax or die. There was a few glam-metalheads wearing Danerous Toys and Poison shirts, whom I mercilessly made fun of. I can recall a strange incident in 9th or 10th, these burnouts in shop class supposedly had a "Satanic cult" and the wanted to kill me because I found out about it. It was all bullshit though, they never did anything after I....well I'm a pretty big guy and I sorta put the fear of GOD into them and let's leave it at that. At the very same time all the burnout crap was happening, this Jesus freak kid would preach to me in 1st hour studyhall every single day. I liked the kid and I listened to him, recall many a lively discussion. He was on my baseball team, don't get me talkin' bout baseball or I'll start dropping names like Oscar Gamble, Bert Blyleven, and Dick Pole. enough already Hess _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 12:32:59 -0800 From: "Eric D." Subject: Re: SCOTS cover > >It's on Decca and is a "promotional copy, not for > >sale." The song is on both sides. The title is "Daddy Was a Preacher But > >Mama Was a Go-Go Girl," the authors are Jo Anna Neel-Bob Neel, the > >performer is JoAnna Neel (no space between Jo & Anna this time) and it's > >produced by Joe Johnson. The publisher is 4 Star Music Co. (BMI). This is a great song,and one of the highlights of the SCOTS set.Always makes me wish that Mary sang a few more songs when SCOTS play live. Does anyone know if "Daddy Was A preacher,Mama was a Go-Go Girl" by JoAnna Neel has been comped anywhere? ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: dy288@freenet.carleton.ca (Gregory Watson) Subject: Re: Today's darn kids, again Hey Rocky and fellow Bomp!ers, It's great that you're on the Bomp list Rocky - yet another cool Canadian (and that ain't no pun baby, tho' it's been a pretty crazy winter here in the Nation's Capital!) Anyway, I'm gonna give my two cents regarding this issue of "the kids". "I don't like the looks of those teenagers..." I got into garage stuff mainly through hanging around the mod crowd when I was a teen, and having The Gruesomes play town every few months (ca. '87). Lucky for me, I started playing in a garage band (The Buzzards), and we got the chance to open for both The Gruesomes and The Vipers during our brief (6 months) existence. I was hooked, but unfortunately had no idea what bands were worth looking for, other than the "popular" ones of course. Things got even worse when I moved to Kingston in '89 to go to university - - I was surrounded by thousands of Barbies and Kens, who seemed to listen to AC/DC et al. My roommate liked alot of punk stuff, which was cool, but I was going stir crazy and finally put up a sign looking for a "garage/psych/folk-rock band". I got a reply that night from Dr. Weasel, who turned out to be an enormous garage freak. Thanks to Dr. Weasel and the many tapes he made me, my garage knowledge was vastly increased. I joined the band (The 14th Wray), and the ages of members ranged from 16 to 26. Yes, a 16-year-old who really dug cool garage tunes. In Kingston. Actually, we managed to get alot more young people into garage, mainly because we got banned from the pubs and had to put on our own all-ages shows. The kids were starving for this kind of thing (hint: they still are), and went fucking crazy at the shows. Forward five years or so... I had moved to Vancouver, met Greg Johnson (The Worst) and joined his newer outfit, The Fiends. I was the youngest member of the band at that time (23), but we went through a few members and by the time '96 rolled around, we had a drummer who was 21 (he thought *I* was old!), and the oldest member was 40. That's a twenty-year age span, man and we all dug garage music. Funny thing was, our drummer started out just liking punk rock (a lot of newer punk rock, too), but he just needed a little encouraging to really get into garage. At this point, I figure that's all any of these kids need to get them into cool music. Alot of them are already into new SoCal punk - that's half the battle right there. The only problem I foresee, and Rocky and I were discussing this in Montreal a few months ago, is that once enough people like garage music, it will have become part of the mainstream, which sorta defeats the purpose, don't it? Enough of my ranting, Grog (-5 in '65!) theoam@psynet.net www.psynet.net/theoam Rocky wrote: > >sAME HERE, EXCEPT i GRADUATED IN '76. i DON'T THINK THINGS ARE ALL THAT >DIFFERENT UP HERE IN nOWHERESVILL, ALSO KNOWN AS tHUNDER bAY, oNTARIO. > >Weird paradox that mANY of us who dig primitive teenage rebellion rock & >roll, WRITE FOR tEEN 'ZINES and are generally crazed cave-teens didn't get >this way until we left our teens! In other words,, I was just as square, >lame and clued out about really cool music as today's kids until I hit my >20's and got turned on to the likes of the Fleshtones and Chesterfield >Kings. This in turn led me back to re-discovering some of my childhood >faves like the Kinks, WHO my babysitter TURNED ME ON TO WHEN SHE BROUGHT >OVER "All Day And All Of The Night" back in '65. Now my musical thrills >are EXCLUSIVELY PROVIDED BY 60's or 6T's-based garage-punk, psych, beat, >surf, power pop and other bompish stuff. Go figure. > >Back in University, I once thought of writing a sociological thesis on >musical taste,, but in retrospect I think it's one of those unsovable >mysteries that defies understanding. Any half-baked theories out there? > >rOCKY >8 YEARS OLD IN '65! > > > > > >==================================================================== >To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with >"unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use >"unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. > > ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:16:38 -0500 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: Why Did Kids Of the 50's and 60's Have Better Bands? PETEP wrote: > > Why was a lot of the really great music of the 50's and 60's being made by > youth(under 25?) > I'll tell you why. It's because back then, it was the formation of > rocknroll. That is the music you heard when you were a kid and turned on top > 40 radio. Real rocknroll was all around, so the kids couldn't be helped but be > into Elvis, Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, etc. The young rockabilly kids wanted to > emulate Elvis, the young garage bands did their best > Stones/Beatles/Byrds/Zombies/etc. > The influences were real rocknroll, therefore you had more great music > being created. Nowadays, the kids never heard of these acts Remember when I posted recently about Chuck Berry coming in periodically to the CompUSA store I work at? Well, most of our cashiers and P&A (pricing & availability... the people that walk the floor helping customers) employees are pretty young, usually either in high school or just graduated. Well, when ol' Chuck comes in and a few of us "oldsters" get all excited, we continually get the question that just about knocks me on my ass: "Who's Chuck Berry?" And these kids GREW UP IN ST. LOUIS, fer chist's sake! So on this point you're probably very correct. It's not like they teach the history of rock'n'roll in highschool, and unless their parents listen to it, they won't know anything about it! And I'm not sure about other areas of the country, but the oldies station here rarely, if ever, plays Jerry Lee, Chuck Berry, or any other 50's rockabilly or R&B. All I hear is mostly mid-late 60's and early 70's pop. > Why are the best bands of today all mostly well over 25? This is your personal opinion, Pete, which is fine, but I believe you're over-generalizing. I hear a lot of new bands that are made up of teenagers or early-20's types that kicks major ass. Just saw one last night in fact, The Cripplers from Columbia, MO (watch out for these guys.... they're amazing!). Sure, they're few and far between, but so are ANY good bands! You may not like much of this new garage punk stuff for whatever reason, but that doesn't mean it's not as worthy as a band like the Swingin' Neckbreakers. I think we all need to watch the over-generalizations. Nothing is 100% true, and I get calls on the radio show every week from listeners who sound pretty damn young to me, making requests and asking about this or that song or whatever. We should also watch falling into the same traps that are parents did, critisizing the kids today for what they listen to and distancing them even further from us. Maybe instead of a "Hey, that's crap" attitude, we should say, "Yeah that's not bad, but check THIS out." Just a thought... kopper - -- ===================================================================== | Kopper & Jaimz - THE WAYBACK MACHINE - KDHX FM 88.1/St. Louis, MO | | The past, present and future of primitive garage rock'n'roll, R&B,| | 60's punk, surf & rockabilly - Saturday nights, Midnight-3am (CST)| | Visit The Wayback Machine website: http://www.inlink.com/~kopper/ | ===================================================================== ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 21:52:02 -0800 From: brueggeman@tomah.com (Jim Brueggeman) Subject: Barrence Whitfield And then he went on to Barrence Whitfield and The Savages where he played > on (at least) their first album. He's great on an instrumental called > Cotton Pickin'. Thanks for getting me to pull that LP out again. One of the most underrated LPs of its era, I think. I still see it in the bins occasionally for under five bucks, looking for a good home (for those interested in hunting one down, it's self-titled from 1984 on the Mamou label). KI The first few Barrence Whitfield albums are lots of fun, and these messages prompted me to play that first album again. Then today I ran across a couple of CDs that Whitfield made with Tom Russell (Hillbilly Voodoo and?) in the cutouts. Are these any good? As much as I like Ow! Ow! Ow! Barrence seemed to be veering toward a more MOR kind of sound. Jim B ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. 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