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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:07:36 +0100
From: Soundflat@t-online.de (Lutz Raeuber)
Subject: Links

Hi my friends..
just put in my webpages some new links, so please check out if you are in it too, 
and if not & you want to be linked, just send a message! Thanks to Ralph Lindner 
for his help, as I´m too dumb to do it alone (äääh, the webpage..)! Take care

Lutz

PS Pretty soon there will be an orderform finally on the pages, too

visit the Soundflat Mailorder webpages:
http://home.t-online.de/home/Soundflat

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 03:21:42 -0500
From: "shawn." <poser@baynet.net>
Subject: Re: Why Did Kids Of the 50's and 60's Have Better Bands?

this is the most intelligent comment of this whole argument.  i'm sure glad
that there were some older kids who took the time out to introduce me to
bands rather then belittle my musical taste when i was a youngster.  inturn
i try to turn kids onto bands (of whatever genre) that might never have
reached a mainstream audience but were solid none-the-less.

shawn.

>Maybe instead of a "Hey,
>that's crap" attitude, we should say, "Yeah that's not bad, but check
>THIS out." Just a thought...
>
>kopper


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:05:33 -0800 (PST)
From: Scott Swanson <swandwn@agora.rdrop.com>
Subject: English Freakbeat question...

Greetings all; this is my first post to the list.  I don't want to bore
you with introductions, so I'll get right to my question:

Does anyone out there own AIP's "English Freakbeat Vol. 3" CD?
Apparently that CD contains a couple of songs by a group called
The Talismen, and somebody told me that the songs are from a rare
Italian-release album.  Well, I wasn't aware that the group ever
released an album, so I'm wondering if a) this story is true, and
b) does anyone out there have a copy of that rare Italian release
album???

Thanks much,

Scott
(swandwn@agora.rdrop.com)

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 06:17:13 EST
From: TSanc43763 <TSanc43763@aol.com>
Subject: Re: English Freakbeat question...

In a message dated 98-01-25 04:51:35 EST, you write:

<< 
 
 Greetings all; this is my first post to the list.  I don't want to bore
 you with introductions, so I'll get right to my question:
 
 Does anyone out there own AIP's "English Freakbeat Vol. 3" CD?
 Apparently that CD contains a couple of songs by a group called
 The Talismen, and somebody told me that the songs are from a rare
 Italian-release album.  Well, I wasn't aware that the group ever
 released an album, so I'm wondering if a) this story is true, and
 b) does anyone out there have a copy of that rare Italian release
 album???
 
 Thanks much,
 
 Scott >>


Hey Scott, 
I can't vouch for the CD, but I do have the LP you mentioned and it is  really
good.  It would be better, if there were less covers, but their versions hold
their own. It was reissued on vinyl not too long ago but I can''t recall the
label.  I would assume the tracks on the CD are 'Casting my spell and 'Masters
of War' which were their 45 released in the UK.  It was also released in the
States on American Arts label which has a different (and I think better)
version of 'Masters of War' .  (Only Castin' my spell is on the LP)   They
also have a track on one of the Rubble comps doing  an absolute deadly version
of the Golden Earrings 'You break my heart'.   
The reissue I do believe is an exact reissue called 'The Talismen's Style' 

                                                       Hope that helps ya out.
                                                                  Tony
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 07:49:15 -0600
From: Mike Furnish <mfurnish@mts.net>
Subject: Nowheresille ??

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 07:41:06 -0600
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Hello Bompers and Rocky in Thunder Bay  (Nowheresville),

 I always get a kick out of the number of "rural" Canadians subscribing
to Bomp. We may not live on the main tour circuits but, with we feel
right in touch with things thanks to the postings from the gang in New
York, Boston etc.

 I grew up in Winnipeg (on the Prairies and right in the center of North
America). In the  mid 60's  we had lots of great bands and seemed to
have some kind of direct link to England. The Guess Who?  made a trip
across the ocean to try their luck in London. While the didn't hit
paydirt there, they did in a way. They came back and released Shakin All
Over and then went on to major North American success.

 Late at night I could tune in WLS from Chicago and got a feel for the
American scene. Also remember listening to some powerhouse station from
Little Rock, Arkansas. Fortunately, there were some open-minded people
in Winnipeg in the late 60's and we got a
"Progressive Music" program on a local FM station (Quicksilver Messenger
Service, Blue
Cheer, and the likes).

Living in a small town doesn't hurt these days as long as one has one's
music and a subscription to Bomp Digest. Check out what we do for other
fun during our long winter
http://www.mts.net/~mfurnish

 Rocky, don't forget Neil Young hung out in Thunder Bay after he left
Winnipeg enroute to
L.A..

regards, Mike Furnish
Beausejour, Manitoba
CANADA


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:30:24 GMT
From: Sean Gillespie <S.A.Gillespie@cranfield.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Are the kids REALLY alright?

Yeah, while being guiltly of all the aloof/record boffin behaviour in this post 
at one time or other, I can really empathise with a lot of the stuff in here...

On Fri, 23 Jan 1998 04:46:56 EST  JimConnell wrote:

> I go to lots of shows that are all kids, and I sometimes go to shows where
> there are mostly adults.  [I'm a 40-something kid.]  At adult shows I am
> usually bored to tears; everybody else seems to be too busy being mature to
> have any kind of fun at all.

I don't get to gigs too much, but all I've seen concurrs with this exactly.  For 
example, I saw Link Wray on his last UK tour, and judging by the general age of 
the crowd, most were old enough to be from the last rockabilly revival; and many 
looked old enough to be slashing cinema seats first time Bill Haley came around. 
  I'll not hold this agaist them - I too will be of the pensionable age one day. 
 But did they dance, get drunk, HAVE FUN?  No, all atmosphere was courtisy of a 
group of 18 year olds, or some such, who danced on the tables and were probably 
only there 'cos they saw 'Pulp Fiction'.  Having said this (and 'cos I don't 
want to appear overtly ageist), Link was a true trouper and played a blinding 
set; age did not prevent him taking a perverse glee in playing the Batman theme 
- - grinning innanely all the while. 

> Some kid shows are just as bad, but most aren't.  Kids jump around and get
> crazy, they know all the words and scream along, they are capable of an
> intensity that adults have just plain lost.

One of the best gigs I've been to was Mudhoney (now unfashionable, I know), 
around 1989 I guess.  I can't remeber what was so great about it; maybe it was 
just 'cos I was 16, or maybe it's 'cos half the crowd was; but yeah...there was 
jumping, singing, drinking, etc.  I don't know what goes wrong when you get past 
 20, maybe it just get's predictable, and maybe it just goes that way if you let 
it.

> I sometimes wonder about this list -- especially all the dry record-collector
> talk.  I get the feeling that some people could just as easily be collecting
> stamps.  The way I see it, if you think about this stuff too much the essence
> of it gets away.
> -jimc

I guess it's ironic that somethink like rock 'n' roll, which has the power to 
turn the dullest, most repressed nurd into the noble savage, so often 
accomplishes the reverse.

Sean.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:58:19 GMT
From: Sean Gillespie <S.A.Gillespie@cranfield.ac.uk>
Subject: CD rip off

On Fri, 23 Jan 1998 11:43:26 -0500 (EST)  Drum Wolf wrote:
 
> I don't know.  I realize that this could very well be my own biased
> perception based on what I saw (and didn't see), but it just seems like
> punk and indie rock just had so much more to offer a decade ago and have
> lost a lot of their power now.  Nowadays it's very rare for me to buy a CD
> of a brand-new title, and it's much more often that I'll go for early
> stuff like Birdman, GBH or Thunders.
> 
> John Lee

Of course the price of new-release CD's doesn't help either.  Maybe it's just 
here in the UK, where half the price of everything goes to pay for the Queen's 
holidays, but even if I wanted to buy the lastest jungle or techno 
releases (hell, I might!), would be looking at paying 16 pounds or about 26 
dollars.  As a rule, garage stuff and general re-releases is about 6-12 pounds 
(9-19 dollars), and has nearly twice as many tracks.  Therefore, for the same 
price as a couple a "current" CD's you can buy, according to your taste:

nearly everything Elvis recorded in the 50's;
your favorite 4 or 5 Doors albums;
over half the Back from the Grave series
etc, etc.

It's a case of financial prudence dictating one's taste, really.

Sean.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:08:27 -0500
From: JJ and Jen Rassler <jrassler@sprynet.com>
Subject: Re: Barrence Whitfield

Hi Jim etc
I've just logged in and have skimmed some Peter Greenberg inquiries. I'd
like to check them and offer any input, if there is anything to add. But in
the meantime...Barrence has a new band together, the Movers, that is a
return to the Ow Ow Ow nature of things. Wild and savage. In addition to the
Movers he is developing a combo on the theme of Slim Galliard, calls it
Barrence Whitfield and the Groove Juice Symphony (him and a trio) so BW is
hard at work and back in action, on several fronts. - JJ

Jim Brueggeman wrote:

> And then he went on to Barrence Whitfield and The Savages where he
> played
> > on (at least) their first album.  He's great on an instrumental called
> > Cotton Pickin'.
>
> Thanks for getting me to pull that LP out again.  One of the most
> underrated LPs of its era, I think. I still see it in the bins
> occasionally for under five bucks, looking for a good home (for those
> interested in hunting one down, it's self-titled from 1984 on the Mamou
> label).  KI
>
> The first few Barrence Whitfield albums are lots of fun, and these
> messages prompted me to play that first album again.  Then today I ran
> across a couple of CDs that Whitfield made with Tom Russell (Hillbilly
> Voodoo and?) in the cutouts.  Are these any good?  As much as I like Ow!
> Ow! Ow! Barrence seemed to be veering toward a more MOR kind of sound.
>                                                 Jim B
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:16:23 -0800
From: argyris <argyris@fnet.gr>
Subject: Kent?

Hallo Bompers,
I would be obligated to anyone that can pass me any information
about garage-life in Kent..Meaning are there any good record shops
or any good clubs?
thanks
argyris
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:21:34 GMT
From: Sean Gillespie <S.A.Gillespie@cranfield.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Peter Greenberg / garage fans

> >  I think it's the internet.  I've been into the stuff for nearly 8
> years, and I've still never spoken to another garage fan in real life.
> 
> I'm surprised to hear this.  Back in '84 or so when I discovered garage
> music after seeing The Mosquitos on Long Island (and meeting Blair) and
> then venturing into NYC to find a thriving garage scene, it was the group
> of people that were as important as the music. 
> 
> The Internet serves a similar purpose, but it's more fun to see the
> people face-to-face and hang with 'em.
> 
> Be seeing you,
> Bill

Yeah, I agree.  I'm sure I'm not the only one, but when you're living stuck out 
in the provinces (Grimsby, north England, pop 90,000) there's just not enough 
people to support a garage scene.  I think also, the garage scene is alot bigger 
in the States than it is in the UK.  I've no evidence - I've never been there, 
it's just 'garage' as a genre seems to be part of the (getting pretentious) 
'folk-memory' in the States in a way it never was in the UK; i.e alot of the 
early bands had a modicum of chart success in the States, but never charted at 
all over here.  I don't know.  Guess we had stuff like Mod and Skinhead instead? 
 Anyhow, even in London I don't know so many bands playing / venues -  just the 
Boston Arms and maybe the Frat Shack.

Sean.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:10:59 -0500 (EST)
From: DJJimmyBee@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: Barrence Whitfield

I have heard it told that Barrence Whitfield's real name is Barry White!--Any
truth to this oft told tale??...Jimmy
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:50:24 -0800
From: "Sadie O. McFarlane" <sadieo@itsa.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re: Are the kids REALLY alright?

> But did they dance, get drunk, HAVE FUN?  No, all atmosphere was courtisy
>of a
>group of 18 year olds, or some such, who danced on the tables and were
>probably
>only there 'cos they saw 'Pulp Fiction'.  Having said this (and 'cos I don't
>want to appear overtly ageist), Link was a true trouper and played a blinding
>set; age did not prevent him taking a perverse glee in playing the Batman
>theme
>- grinning innanely all the while.

Link is aware that you don't have to be dancing on the tables and acting up
to be appreciating the music...

- - Sadie O.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 17:48:44 GMT
From: Sean Gillespie <S.A.Gillespie@cranfield.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Pre-Beatles hipness

> This may not be for everyone, but I really dig the following pre-Beatles discs
> 
> Shadows-of course
> Tornados-as well
> Cyril Davies & All Stars
> Alex Corner Blues Incorporated(more bluesy than Rock-n-roll) 
> Jet Harris
> John Leyton (not really rock-n-roll) but brilliant Meek productions
> Shane Fenton & Fentones
> plus a lot more Joe Meek early discs (i.e. Houston Wells & Marksmen,
> Cavaliers... ) but only a handful would I consider Rock-n-roll.
>                          that's all I can think of off hand
>                                                      any additions?


Cheers for the info, I'll keep an eye out for some of this stuff.

Sean.


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:49:57
From: Rocky Serkowney <rockys@Quetico.tbaytel.net>
Subject: Re: Why Did Kids Of the 50's and 60's Have Better Bands?

At 09:16 PM 1/24/98 -0500, Kopper wrote:
>
>I think we all need to watch the over-generalizations. Nothing is 100%
>true, and I get calls on the radio show every week from listeners who
>sound pretty damn young to me, making requests and asking about this or
>that song or whatever. We should also watch falling into the same traps
>that are parents did, critisizing the kids today for what they listen to
>and distancing them even further from us. Maybe instead of a "Hey,
>that's crap" attitude, we should say, "Yeah that's not bad, but check
>THIS out." Just a thought...
>

Right on!  My 17 year-old nephew is a very talented musician who plays in
the youth symphony and has a Goth/Metal band.  A couple years ago he had a
major Nirvana fixation.  Thing is, even though I don't dig the music he
plays or generally listens to, he's still open-minded enough to listen to
the Element 79, Hate Bombs, Omega Men, Fleshtones, Makers, etc. as well as
my rantings about rock & roll history when he comes over to visit.  That's
why I don't put down what he likes.  Someday he may start to actively
enquire about our scene.

Rocky.
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:15:04 -0600 (CST)
From: rumpus2@bitstream.net (Ron Thums)
Subject: Re: these kidz

Gotta say that I'm 110 percent behind John Stanton's post -- it making more
sense than anything else in this thread I've seen so far. I think it's
BEYOND HILARIOUS that some of the *oldsters* on the list are more
sympathetic to today's *musically misguided* youth than those much closer
to their age. (I graduated from high school in 1969... do the math.)
Concerned about someone's (by our standards) unfortunate taste in sounds?
Do as a very few have suggested and turn them on to something you like...
point 'em at a live show maybe? Could be they just need exposure to
something besides alt.radio's alterna-drone.

Then again, maybe they'll just conclude that you're just some old crank
living in a time warp. So it goes, eh?.

Ron Thums
Radio Rumpus Room

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.>Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 00:54:56 PST
>From: "John Stanton" <johnfstanton@hotmail.com>
>Subject: these kidz
>
>     While I can't say that a helluva lot of what constitutes popular
>music for people, say under 18, does a lot for me (I'm 38), what I find
>far more distressing is hearing some people's attitudes towards the kids
>themselves, as if they have no right to like something that sucks. Jeez,
>did some of you bother to read your postings after you sent them in?
>Ooooh, there was a show and some kids were being irresponsible! Shock
>horror. I went to a show and a kid bumped into
>me. I saw a kid with a nose ring.  WOW! Do you realize that basically
>you're sounding exactly like the uptight parents and other adults that
>you hated during your youth?  Let's cast our minds back a few (or more)
>years.  I'm sure that we can all remember plenty of things that
>we listened to/watched on tv/etc that bit pretty fuckin hard.
>     Another thing that people need to wake up to is the fact that the
>50's and 60's weren't some idyllic time when Gene Vincent/Seeds/
>Count Five were on the radio 24 hours a day.  Look at the charts from
>30+ years ago and for every cool song you'll find a LOT more garbage
>than good.  While commercial  radio has changed to the point where
>you're not going to find a lot of good stuff on it, there are radio
>shows
>that play good rock 'n' roll, old and new.  Some of those people are on
>this list fer crissakes!  If there wasn't SOME kind of ongoing interest
>in the stuff that people on this enjoy listening to, this list wouldn't
>exist. I just find it hard to believe that people who rant and rave
>about how wyld and untamed things should be could cop an attitude that
>makes Spiro Agnew sound like John Sinclair. Kids are
>kids, and probably the same ratio that are into good music now will
>be subscribers to this list 10 years from now.
>                                                                John S

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 11:39:46 -0800
From: "Sadie O. McFarlane" <sadieo@itsa.ucsf.edu>
Subject: Re: these kidz

>Concerned about someone's (by our standards) unfortunate taste in sounds?
>Do as a very few have suggested and turn them on to something you like...
>point 'em at a live show maybe? Could be they just need exposure to
>something besides alt.radio's alterna-drone.

My problem is, I spent 15 years exposing my kids to great stuff from early
blues and swing up to the present, and they'd rather listen to swill.  They
make more fun of my music now than I make of theirs...  Every once in a
while they try to turn their poor deluded mother on to something they like.
Occasionally some of it is actually listenable, but only marginally...

- - Sadie O.


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Date: 25 Jan 98 14:44:49 -0500
From: "Blair" <blairb1@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Barrence Whitfield

>Then today I ran
>across a couple of CDs that Whitfield made with Tom Russell (Hillbilly
>Voodoo and?) in the cutouts.  Are these any good?  As much as I like Ow!
>Ow! Ow! Barrence seemed to be veering toward a more MOR kind of sound.

I saw a couple of the shows they did together.   Also, a friend played me a
disc... good, but not great.  The title, "Hillbilly Voodoo," describes the
sound pretty well.  It's been quite some time since I heard it, but I seem
to remember it being sort of a country blues (tho', as I said, the title is
a better description.)

The _Hillbilly Voodoo_ was pleasant, but Barrence Whitfield & the Savages
were wild fun.  I'd go nuts to see 'em again.

	Blair

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 13:03:21 -0600 (CST)
From: dothepop@ix.netcom.com (Alan and Lisa)
Subject: Re: bomp-digest V98 #38

<I was going stir crazy and finally put up a sign looking for a
"garage/psych/folk-rock band".  I got a reply that night from Dr. 
Weasel, who turned out to be an enormous garage freak.  Thanks to Dr. 
Weasel and the many tapes he made me, my garage knowledge was vastly 
increased.  I joined the band (The 14th Wray), and the ages of members 
ranged from 16 to 26.Yes, a 16-year-old who really dug cool garage 
tunes.  In Kingston. >

My perspective of this: I was around 14 when I started hanging around  
a guy in my suburban neighborhood named Joe Allen who was a couple of 
years my senior. he was a big record/r'n'r freak and he turned me on to 
'60s stuff like the Zombies, Turtles, the "Nuggets" album, as well as 
the Sex Pistols and early Black Sabbath - I heard "Never Mind The 
Bollcks" and "Paranoid" the same day for the first time!  He played me 
a lot of obscure '60s "punk" music as I was (and he) getting more and 
more into punk and "new wave" music." The he moved to the Martimes and 
actually sold off a lot of his records, many of which I bought.

My own peer group in high school was mostly punk rockers, but we also 
listened to stuff like the Electric Prunes, Love, etc. - bands that 
we'd heard had influenced bands we liked like Echo and the Bunnymen. 
Most of these guys got all mature after college and dumped all that 
stuff in favor of more "serious" music.  By the time I got into 
college, I was buying a lot of '60s punk comps, finding obscure '60s 
records, many of which thru a record store in Kingston called the Vinyl 
Vendor, whoese owner dug a lot of obscure '60s music. I'd always wanted 
to start a band, having dabbled in drums off and on for a few years. I 
played in an embryonic punk band called Paisley Death Squad that did 
covers of stuff like "Boss Hoss," (Sonics) "What's Inside A Girl" 
(Cramps) and so on. Then I was briefly in the Calamity Janes, a band 
from Ottawa I'd seen play w/the Gruesomes, Deja Voodoo and Ray Condo at 
a show in Kingston. Three of the members moved to go to Queens and 
asked me to join up. They were sort of an artsy Velvets-influenced 
group, and one of the guitarists, Dan, played a Vox guitar. That lasted 
about 6 or 7 months. After graduating, I'd pretty much given up trying 
to find like-minded people in Kingston. One day when I was working late 
at the art gallery I worked at, about a year after graduating, I saw 
these signs on poles advertising for a drummer for a band. It listed a 
lot of current garage music as influence, so I met up with 16 year old 
Gord and barely 19 year old Pat and we started the 14th Wray. I played 
them a lot of original '60s punk and we bashed out really awful covers. 
Then, a couple of months later, we met Greg (Grog) thru that sign and 
asked him to jam, and we became a four-piece and bashed out more really 
awful covers. Greg had a 12-string vox Phantom which impressed us a 
lot, and by the next school term, he came back after summer break with 
a Farfisa organ! Somewhere along the way we actually got pretty good, 
wrote a few originals, put put a tape, got on a couple of comps. then 
broke up.
 
I  moved out west, and joined up with three ex-Worst members and a guy 
from Victoria named Gareth aka The Amazing Larry, the host of a garage 
radio show and formed the Upper Crust. A year or so later, after I'd 
moved from Vancouver to Seattle, Greg moved to Vancouver and joined up 
with the Worst's singer's new band the Fiends! Meanwhile in Ottawa, Pat 
had moved there and started a band called the Knurlings. Recently, Greg 
moved back to Ottawa and now plays bass in the Knurlings!! Since moving 
to Seattle, I jammed with Zack from the Statics and a guy named Carlis 
for awhile, then joined the Primate 5 for about a year, got bored with 
that and put down the sticks until I hooked up with August and Meredith 
and Dave and started the Castros. While we consider ourselves a garage 
band, our sound is different from all the other bands I've been in. 
It's heavier, more Detroit Stooges/MC5 influenced, but it's weird to 
think that we do "Don't Need Your Loving" by the Chocolate Watchband, a 
band I heard for the first time when I was 14! Now I'm 33 and still 
digging it. Why can't I grow up?  


      
Alan "Dr. Weasel" Wright


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Date: 25 Jan 98 14:41:15 -0500
From: "Blair" <blairb1@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Why Did Kids Of the 50's and 60's Have Better Bands?

>I think we all need to watch the over-generalizations. Nothing is 100%
>true

	While I agree with this, it puts me in mind of a time I used a similar
argument with a person I worked with in a non-music discussion.  I'll spare
you all  the details... basically, he told me that my statement itself was
a "100% statement."  If "Nothing is 100% true," then that very statement is
not 100% true.  Yeah, my brain hurts.

		Blair

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 18:36:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Wes Freeman <iggy@email.unc.edu>
Subject: High School and Listening to Good Music

Yeah, like John Lee said, my high school experience was different as well
(but I was going in the '90's when tolerating a fag can make you just as
popular as beating one up used to).  I'm from the mountains of North
Carolina, and when my highschool got a fairly large following of hippies
or punks or just wierd guys (I think the local term was "spikes" though
I'm not sure why) the initial reaction was cold shouldering, etc., but
soon the more original jocks/preps discovered, "Hey, these guys can get me
high..." and a mutually profitable relationship formed.  ("Hey you wierd
guys bring the pot and we'll bring the beer!"  "Sounds good you swilling
oaf!")  Hell, by my junior year, four or five football players had been
kicked off the team for abuse of said weed, and I personally had turned
them on to the first Stooges album.  Those guys were crazy!

							Wes Freeman    


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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:27:41 PST
From: "Victor Tabinsky" <vict_66@hotmail.com>
Subject: Mants...info needed

I wanted to ask if anyone out there knows about a
group called the Mants.

I've been offered them in a trade and trying
to figure out if;
1) It's any good and who they sound like
2) Is it tough to find their singles
 (Mants in your pants 7" & Double 7" Mant from Uncle)
Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks
vict

PS Does anyone know about an album called "Color Me Psycho?"

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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:53:20 -0500
From: shepherd <shepherd@garply.com>
Subject: Re: Are the kids REALLY alright?

(Anybody else read the Catalog of Cool back then?
> or since?)

Why, yes.  I won a copy in a  history of rock trivia contest that a 
radio station held.  I also won Peter Guralnick's 'Feel Like Going 
Home' and a year subscription to Trouser Press.  Too bad the station 
played bad music.  They had good taste in prizes.  

It's a great book.  Vol. 2 wasn't as good.

Just the other day at work, I had to explain the difference between 
class 1 and class 2 zombies.

Kip
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:57:09 -0500
From: shepherd <shepherd@garply.com>
Subject: Re: Kids today got no ...

> Have you any of you out there checked out John Zorn or Tuvan "throat
> singing"? Now  THAT'S New Wave. Or then again,  maybe it's some kinda
> punk.

There is a book of throat singing that has a Tuvan punk band.  NPR(!) 
played it when they did a review of the book.  I think you can get a 
copy from WFMU.

Kip
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 20:05:41 -0500
From: shepherd <shepherd@garply.com>
Subject: Re: these kidz

Another thing that people need to wake up to is the fact that the
> 50's and 60's weren't some idyllic time when Gene Vincent/Seeds/
> Count Five were on the radio 24 hours a day.

But at least they got on the radio!!!  Now every radio station plays 
the same 20-30 songs over & over.  Can't take a chance on losing 
listeners by playing something that might cause somebody to change the 
station.  So I don't listen to commercial radio. 

Kip
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 19:47:38 -0800
From: rckshift@juno.com (Timothy G Hayes)
Subject: Re: Mants...info needed

the 2 mants singles you asked about are not that hard to track down. i
sill see 'em around seattle occasionally. if i see 'em again,i'll snag
it. ask around; you should be able to find those singles for cover price
still! keep them eyes peeled!  ......tim
On Sun, 25 Jan 1998 16:27:41 PST "Victor Tabinsky" <vict_66@hotmail.com>
writes:
>I wanted to ask if anyone out there knows about a
>group called the Mants.
>
>I've been offered them in a trade and trying
>to figure out if;
>1) It's any good and who they sound like
>2) Is it tough to find their singles
> (Mants in your pants 7" & Double 7" Mant from Uncle)
>Any info would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks
>vict
>
>PS Does anyone know about an album called "Color Me Psycho?"
>
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