From: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@Bolis.com Subject: bomp-digest V98 #42 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@bolis.com Precedence: bulk bomp-digest Monday, January 26 1998 Volume 98 : Number 042 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 03:22:10 -0500 (EST) From: dy288@freenet.carleton.ca (Gregory Watson) Subject: Re: bomp-digest V98 #38 Hey! Somebody should really make up one of those band family trees for Canadian garage bands of the 80's and 90's, eh?! Anybody up for the task? Grog Grog theoam@psynet.net www.psynet.net/theoam Alan wrote: >...I'd always wanted >to start a band, having dabbled in drums off and on for a few years. I >played in an embryonic punk band called Paisley Death Squad that did >covers of stuff like "Boss Hoss," (Sonics) "What's Inside A Girl" >(Cramps) and so on. Then I was briefly in the Calamity Janes, a band >from Ottawa I'd seen play w/the Gruesomes, Deja Voodoo and Ray Condo at >a show in Kingston. Three of the members moved to go to Queens and >asked me to join up. They were sort of an artsy Velvets-influenced >group, and one of the guitarists, Dan, played a Vox guitar. That lasted >about 6 or 7 months. After graduating, I'd pretty much given up trying >to find like-minded people in Kingston. One day when I was working late >at the art gallery I worked at, about a year after graduating, I saw >these signs on poles advertising for a drummer for a band. It listed a >lot of current garage music as influence, so I met up with 16 year old >Gord and barely 19 year old Pat and we started the 14th Wray. I played >them a lot of original '60s punk and we bashed out really awful covers. >Then, a couple of months later, we met Greg (Grog) thru that sign and >asked him to jam, and we became a four-piece and bashed out more really >awful covers. Greg had a 12-string vox Phantom which impressed us a >lot, and by the next school term, he came back after summer break with >a Farfisa organ! Somewhere along the way we actually got pretty good, >wrote a few originals, put put a tape, got on a couple of comps. then >broke up. > >I moved out west, and joined up with three ex-Worst members and a guy >from Victoria named Gareth aka The Amazing Larry, the host of a garage >radio show and formed the Upper Crust. A year or so later, after I'd >moved from Vancouver to Seattle, Greg moved to Vancouver and joined up >with the Worst's singer's new band the Fiends! Meanwhile in Ottawa, Pat >had moved there and started a band called the Knurlings. Recently, Greg >moved back to Ottawa and now plays bass in the Knurlings!! Since moving >to Seattle, I jammed with Zack from the Statics and a guy named Carlis >for awhile, then joined the Primate 5 for about a year, got bored with >that and put down the sticks until I hooked up with August and Meredith >and Dave and started the Castros. While we consider ourselves a garage >band, our sound is different from all the other bands I've been in. >It's heavier, more Detroit Stooges/MC5 influenced, but it's weird to >think that we do "Don't Need Your Loving" by the Chocolate Watchband, a >band I heard for the first time when I was 14! Now I'm 33 and still >digging it. Why can't I grow up? > >Alan "Dr. Weasel" Wright ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 00:33:40 -0500 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: Mants...info needed Victor Tabinsky wrote: > > I wanted to ask if anyone out there knows about a > group called the Mants. > > I've been offered them in a trade and trying > to figure out if; > 1) It's any good and who they sound like > 2) Is it tough to find their singles > (Mants in your pants 7" & Double 7" Mant from Uncle) > Any info would be appreciated. > > Thanks > vict Haven't heard Mants in Your Pants, but the Mants double 7" (The MANT From U.N.C.L.E.) on Lance Rock is well-worth any trade you can get. Great lo-fi fuzz/garage punk a la The Mummies or any other R&B-influenced stuff. kopper - -- ===================================================================== | Kopper & Jaimz - THE WAYBACK MACHINE - KDHX FM 88.1/St. Louis, MO | | The past, present and future of primitive garage rock'n'roll, R&B,| | 60's punk, surf & rockabilly - Saturday nights, Midnight-3am (CST)| | Visit The Wayback Machine website: http://www.inlink.com/~kopper/ | ===================================================================== ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:05:17 +0000 From: "Alex Piandes" Subject: Support Coffee 'n' Smokes (Please) Hello BOMP!ers. There was no show this past Saturday morning. Hence, no playlist. The transmitter at 'MFO died at around noon Friday and wasn't raised 'til 2pm Saturday afternoon. Of course no one told me of the situation, so as usual I woke up at 4am and got to the studio at 5 only to find the bad news taped to the sound board. It's just as well I showed up as I found out that we once again have to sign up for our slots for the spring semester. Being in an empty quiet studio, I took the time to fill out my airtime request which had to be submitted by Tuesday (1/27) 6pm and took a peek at some of the other airtime requests. I found that the need for support is a little more urgent this time around. I humbly request the support of those who are friends of the show, whether they listen to the live broadcast each Saturday or those who read my playlists and offer comments and praise and ultimately make the show what it is. The general e-mail address for WMFO (attn.:Program Director and/or General Manager) is: wmfo@tufts.edu The snail-mail address is: WMFO (attn.:Program Director and/or General Manager) P.O. Box 65 Medford, MA 02153 The business line is: (617) 625-0800 The fax line is: (617) 625-6072 I will know of the results of the sign-ups at the 'MFO general assembly this Sunday, 1 February. Thank you all in advance for your support, it's greatly appreciated. Take care Alex Piandes Coffee 'n' Smokes WMFO (91.5fm) Medford, MA ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 08:58:46 -0500 (EST) From: Drum Wolf Subject: Re: CD rip off On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, Sean Gillespie wrote: > > I don't know. I realize that this could very well be my own biased > > perception based on what I saw (and didn't see), but it just seems like > > punk and indie rock just had so much more to offer a decade ago and have > > lost a lot of their power now. Nowadays it's very rare for me to buy a CD > > of a brand-new title, and it's much more often that I'll go for early > > stuff like Birdman, GBH or Thunders. > > Of course the price of new-release CD's doesn't help either. Maybe it's just > here in the UK, where half the price of everything goes to pay for the Queen's > holidays, but even if I wanted to buy the lastest jungle or techno > releases (hell, I might!), would be looking at paying 16 pounds or about 26 > dollars. As a rule, garage stuff and general re-releases is about 6-12 pounds > (9-19 dollars), and has nearly twice as many tracks. Therefore, for the same > price as a couple a "current" CD's you can buy, according to your taste: North America is the only place in the world where CD retail prices are as low as they are (US $16, roughly equivalent to 10 pounds UK). Compact discs are much more expensive in the rest of the world - about the same everywhere else as in the UK. I can't say how things work in Britain, but in the USA, CDs of older titles aren't significantly cheaper than full-price new releases. The latest Garth Brooks, Spice Girls or Puff Daddy will cost anywhere from US $12-16 (remember that the big commercial retail chains like Tower always have sales, especially when they're red-hot newly-released titles), while a Stooges, Ramones, or old Stones disc will probably be in the US $10-12 range. So buying oldies over the newest hits doesn't produce the same kind of savings in the USA that Sean describes in Britain. > It's a case of financial prudence dictating one's taste, really. All that I've pointed out notwithstanding, yes. I think one big reason why most people aren't more adventurous in what music they listen to is because CD's are not cheap, most people are not rich, and they can only afford to spend their hard-earned money on what's tried and true for them. I sure as hell would not mind exposing myself to more music and more artists from more genres, like jazz, old country and western, African drumming, avant-garde experimental, and other stuff. For the most part I stick to the same old indie rock and punk that I know I like, and I still end up spending way too much money. - - John Lee ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 98 09:29:29 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: the Brood Kenne said: >> all i know from my last portland gig is that kristen chalmers is back on keyboards in the brood << ...so, did she have her baby??? - -Andrea ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 98 09:27:51 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: the kids discussion: more 2 cents from me Jim C said: >>Even Manson is not the wasteland that popular opinion makes them out to be - -- I wouldn't actually say that I *like* them, but I've seen them a few times, and it *is* a good show. How many of you who criticize them have ever seen them? Or are capable of going to a show like that with an open mind?<< I saw 'em in early '95 in New Orleans. I honestly had no idea who they were; some acquaintances invited me along. They were okay, and a couple of them were believably creepy. The music just isn't my cup of tea. The people around me were really into them, though. A couple of "today's kids" bands that I like: Blur, Pulp. - -Andrea ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 10:22:16 -0500 From: Don Smith Subject: teens,e tc >Why was a lot of the really great music of the 50's and 60's being made by >youth(under 25?) Why are the best bands of today all mostly well over 25? I don't have time to read all the bomp digests from this weekend, but when I was a kid in the early-mid 80s, I listened primarily to teenage bands who were under 25. This was when classic rock recatapulted Eric Clapton to fame with his jazzy easy listening tunes. don't forget that the kind of people making early rock and roll were essentially the underclass, whereas the kind of people populating the charts today have some kind of financial or educational backing. I have often thought that the people listening to punk rock, etc today would more likely be folk or jazz collectors in the 50s and 60s. Where the typical garage band would be some Pearl Jam-inspired suburban ne'er do wells who spend too much time listening to top 40 radio. >Hello Bompers and Rocky in Thunder Bay (Nowheresville), > I always get a kick out of the number of "rural" Canadians subscribing >to Bomp. We may not live on the main tour circuits but, with we feel >right in touch with things thanks to the postings from the gang in New >York, Boston etc. Anyone care to comment on Paul Schaeffer's mid-60s band, the Fugitives that played at some Thunder Bay hotel? I never actually heard from anyone who knew the band existed at the time- in fact, often wondered if it was a humorous creation on Paul's part (The Fugitives? come on...). Don ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 98 09:39:42 -0500 From: "Andrea Lauritzen" Subject: SNZ Wes said: >> I like "Hell" by the Squirrel Nut Zippers I think the entire album is great!!!! - -Andrea ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:34:36 -0500 From: Marc Miller Subject: RE: Re: Barrence Whitfield Jimmy, re: > I have heard it told that Barrence Whitfield's real name is Barry > White!--Any > truth to this oft told tale??...Jimmy > It's true! He worked for me (briefly) at WBCN, and Barry White is his real name. Mighta caused problems professionally, though... Miller ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: 26 Jan 1998 10:06:48 U From: "Joe Emery" Subject: X w/ Billy Zoom!~ i just heard from a friend that X is doing a show in san francisco w/ = guitar god billy zoom back behind the grestch sparkle jet guitar! (sat, = feb 7) does anyone know if they'll tour? if not, will someone please tell me = why i didn't move to california years ago? argh! joe ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:12:53 -0500 From: Kelso Jacks Subject: RE: Kids today got no ... <> >>my daughters are the same way. I keep flailing at them, howling "can't you >>see this stuff FAILS TO ROCK???" And they say they have a right to their >>tastes. Of course they do - but it would be more satisfying if their >>tastes weren't both bland and dictated by TV... Here's a lesson for you (if you really want your kids to seek out better music..though its not guaranteed to work): LEAVE THEM ALONE! All I'm saying is that if my parents had tried to tell me what "rocked" and what didn't, I'd sure as hell go in the absolutely different direction. Ya see, most youths do not think their parents understand them and most do not think that their parents have any taste in music or fashion, etc....so the more you rant about what you perceive as good, the less apt they'll be to like it, because, if you're over 21 well you're square, man...ya dig? Leave 'em be...if they want it, they'll find it. - --kelso ============================================================== "Oh, what happened to you? Whatever happened to me? What became of the people We used to be?" **snuff** ============================================================== ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:18:25 -0600 From: grinderman@juno.com (Hess Jeffery) Subject: comm radio vs. record geeks Kip: >But at least they got on the radio!!! Now every radio station plays >the same 20-30 songs over & over. Can't take a chance on losing >listeners by playing something that might cause somebody to change the > >station. So I don't listen to commercial radio. Once in a while I still hear Pushin' too hard, Lies, and Liar, Liar on the oldies radio. But who wants to sit through a butt-load of crap to hear it. People who collect records and listen to alot of music don't need commercial radio anyway. hesS _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. 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Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 12:35:30 -0800 From: bunker@davis.com (haunold/kandel) Subject: Re: Mants...info needed >Victor Tabinsky wrote: >> >> I wanted to ask if anyone out there knows about a >> group called the Mants. >> >> I've been offered them in a trade and trying >> to figure out if; >> 1) It's any good and who they sound like >> 2) Is it tough to find their singles >> (Mants in your pants 7" & Double 7" Mant from Uncle) >> Any info would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks >> vict > >Haven't heard Mants in Your Pants, but the Mants double 7" (The MANT >>From U.N.C.L.E.) on Lance Rock is well-worth any trade you can get. >Great lo-fi fuzz/garage punk a la The Mummies or any other >R&B-influenced stuff. > >kopper There's also the new Mants 7" that Estrus did that came out in December called "I smell...Woman" (Es 7106) which was a limited press of 1000 and sold out instantly! if you can find it its and awesome single... Michelle ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:58:01 -0600 (CST) From: g.i.prod@ix.netcom.com (G.I. World H.Q.) Subject: Tour dates Go to the G.I. website for updated tourdates for Lightning Beatman and all the other G.I. Bands. http://www.swiftsite.com/gi ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 19:42:45 -0500 From: JJ and Jen Rassler Subject: Re: Peter Greenberg / garage fans William H Jones wrote: > Karl wrote about Peter Greenberg: > > I'd like to know the exact details on him leaving DMZ, moving to > Cincinnati presumably) to play with the Customs, then returning to Boston > to join the Lyres. > > And then he went on to Barrence Whitfield and The Savages where he played > on (at least) their first album. He's great on an instrumental called > Cotton Pickin'. > --------------------------------------- Great to see inquiries about Peter. Maybe I can fill in some of the blanks on questions posted. Peter left DMZ in May 1978. Shortly after the Sire LP was released. From the time he and I first met (fall '75) and started the band, he said "if I ever make a record, that's it, I'm goin back to school. I just wanna make a record." Within that first year we got a couple tracks on the Live at the Rat LP, and by spring '77 we cut the Bomp tracks. Initially, neither of us had thoughts about us makin it or anything. We just wanted to do a band. The Punk thing hadn't yet happened, and we were far removed from commercial appeal of the times. But things were hot in 77. We then got signed by Sire and Peter's goals were being realized. The album was released May 5th '78 and Peter was gone back to Cincinatti (family home at that time). In short time he started the Customs. Recorded some Hot tracks and made his mark there. Within a couple years he was back in Boston and he and Mike Lewis joined the Lyres for a short time. He was workin at a record store with a friend, Barry White, whohe formed a new band with, Barrence Whitfield & the Savages. Was probably in that band the longest. He was great in it. What a band! This was mid-late 80's. He got married and again hit school. Oceanography I think. When we did the reunion in 93 he was working for the EPA or something. Looked great, played great and was incredibly great to do the thing with him again. > ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:30:48 -0600 From: "Captain Kirk" Subject: Re: the kids discussion: more 2 cents from me >A couple of "today's kids" bands that I like: Blur, Pulp. >-Andrea This could make for a REAL interesting thread. I can't think of a band that's hot with the "kids" (a distinction I surpassed not long ago) that ROCKS, since I haven't heard much new popular music, but I would love to hear what other people think. Captain Kirk - who thinks the Squirrel Nut Zippers are AOK (not rock though, big band/swing among other things - is it even big with the "kids" ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. If this is in a digest, use "unsubscribe bomp-digest" instead. Please remove this from replies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:58:41 -0500 (EST) From: balso snell Subject: Re: the kids discussion: more 2 cents from me well, since the conversation's swung to what the kids like today - i happened to have just completed a big listenership survey of the college station i dj at, and here (in brief) is what the kids are listening to, if the kids are in college (actual question - what would you like to hear mnore of on wcfm?): folk, classic rock, jazz, alternative, and classical. kid's top 5 bands: phish, the beatles, ani difranco, rolling stones, dar williams what kids want less of: rap, techno, alternative, metal, hip-hop (also among "kid's" favorite bands - sinatra, bjork, pearl jam, samples, and - yes - squirrel nut zippers). so the kids listen to the rolling stones, and maybe they rock. maybe the beatles rock. but i'm willing to bet they listen to the latter era of both bands. kids are dumb like that. - dorothy 19 yrs old "kid" ==================================================================== To unsubscribe from Bomp, send an e-mail to majordomo@bolis.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the message body. 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