From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V99 #4 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@interport.net bomp-digest Monday, January 4 1999 Volume 99 : Number 004 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: first for 99 "Mark and Desiree Gilbert" Re: Remains/Lost Info Blair Buscareno RE: The Big Takeover Jim Slade Re: Someloves liwara Re: Someloves Blair Buscareno Re: Best comps boldface@easynet.co.uk Wayne Kramer: His Guitar for the World to See Trace72019@aol.com more unexpected coolness Evan Davies Re: Teenage Shutdowns: I'm Down Today danman76@juno.com (Daniel M Horowitz) Re: Help! :-) danman76@juno.com (Daniel M Horowitz) Re: more unexpected coolness DEACON ALLEY Re: Teenage Shutdowns: I'm Down Today Blair Buscareno the wayback machine "mike sinocchi" dissed SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: dissed Blair Buscareno Psych-Out! playlist for 1/3/99 grinderman@juno.com (Jeffery Hess) Greaser's Lunchbox grinderman@juno.com (Jeffery Hess) Re: Psych-Out! playlist for 1/3/99 grinderman@juno.com (Jeffery Hess) Re: Best of 98...and of 99 MC BIGOT Re: Stupid awards-Dans le garage Brian Phillips Re: First song played in 99 Brian Phillips Re: Help! :-) "J'son.." Help with Pebbles, BFTG "Erin Truscott" Am I in hot water??? Jonathan Mills Evan's and Mojo's tastes... Jonathan Mills Oh no, not the same debate again. Please.... Jonathan Mills Teenbeat Mayhem Massimo Baseotto Re: Teenbeat Mayhem TSanc43763@aol.com New Year's Eve w/Hate Bombs "Justina Davies" Re: bomp-digest V98 #1530 "Christopher Lynn" Re: bomp-digest V98 #1531 "Christopher Lynn" Re: bomp-digest V98 #1531 "BB" Re: bomp-digest V98 #1530 "BB" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 20:29:52 +1030 From: "Mark and Desiree Gilbert" Subject: first for 99 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE3820.FB7C7860 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When the Night Falls by the Eyes - ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE3820.FB7C7860 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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- ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01BE3820.FB7C7860-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 07:37:15 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: Remains/Lost Info Can anyone out there give me info on buying advance tix for this one? And, as long as we're at it, can anyone provide driving directions. (I'll be coming from the Mass Pike, probably.) Blair On Sun, 3 Jan 1999 PETEP@aol.com wrote: > > The Remains and The Lost will play at The Avalon in Boston on > Saturday, March 20th. The show is being done by Don Law, and the > club holds well over 1000 people, maybe close to 1500. > > Pete > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 07:45:42 -0500 From: Jim Slade Subject: RE: The Big Takeover The website I access is at www.bigtakeover.com. It gives you a sample of the 'zine contents. Their address is The Big Takeover, 249 Eldridge St. No. 14, New York, NY 10002. A yearly subscription is something like $12. It's a fat (not "phat," although it may be that too if I understand the vernacular), passionate 'zine that's been around since the early '80s. It's the only fanzine I've seen since Trouser Press (a tear wells...) that understands the glory of the Undertones, and that's good enough in my book. Jim http://www.groovedisques.com > Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 17:49:52 -0500 > From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey 4-5875" > Subject: RE: The Big Takeover/Mark Lindsey > > Do you have an address for this magazine? I've never seen it locally, and > I'd like to make sure I can mail order a copy! Thanks. > > Jeffery Lindholm > jrl6b@virginia.edu > Health Sciences Editor > University of Virginia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 21:51:02 +0800 From: liwara Subject: Re: Someloves At 04:00 AM 1/4/99 -0600, you wrote: > >My Australian pal Melinda introduced me to The Someloves while we were in >Japan. Is the Someloves' stuff available on CD? >Thanks, > >Allan Waite > Yes! and very cheaply too. The Someloves only recorded one album called Something Or Other. They also had a vinyl only single on Citadel. Mushroom records here in Australia recently re-released Something Or Other along with its whole back catalogue for only $10 (Aust). You should be able to purchase it through any Australian record company quite easily. May I also recommend the rest of Dom Mariani's back catalogue. Before he was in the Someloves, Dom fronted the Stems who originally were a garage styled band but also did quite a few pop influenced songs, especially later in their career. They released one allbum called At First Sight Violets Are Blue and there is a best of CD called Buds which has all their early singles not on the album as well as a few unreleased songs. Doms current band DM3 have been around for a while and have just released a new album called Rippled Soul. They have two other albums 1 times, 2 times 3 Red Light and Road To Rome. Bomp has also released a best of CD called Dig It The Most, which contains material from the first two albums but nothing off their last. I'm sure a lot of people on this list would agree with me in that all these albums are must haves. Dom also used to be in the Summer Suns. Their stuff is a lot harder to find and most of it on vinyl. They released one CD called Bed Bugs a few years ago. Darryl Mather, who also was in the Someloves, is now in a band called The Orange Humble Band who recently released a highly acclaimed album called Assorted Creams through Half A Cow records. The band also features members of the Posies. They do a version of Can't Get What You Want which is also on the DM3 album Road To Rome. Hope this is of some help. If you have any other queries please don't hesitate in calling me or if you like you can contact Dom personally at; DM3@trinix.com.au (this is the correct address - I think I've sent this message with the wrong email address for DM3!) Neal Perth ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 08:57:44 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: Someloves On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, liwara wrote: > Yes! and very cheaply too. The Someloves only recorded one album called > Something Or Other. They also had a vinyl only single on Citadel. Mushroom > records here in Australia recently re-released Something Or Other along with > its whole back catalogue for only $10 (Aust). You should be able to purchase > it through any Australian record company quite easily. Besides the Something or Other LP, The Someloves also had a 12" EP out. There were actually a couple singles, one of which was recorded in '85 or so. The Someloves really began as a side project while Dom was still in The Stems. And, like Neal, I recommend just about anything Dom Mariani's ever done. Blair ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 14:00:12 +0000 From: boldface@easynet.co.uk Subject: Re: Best comps Mojo's recommended comps would be any wimpy 60s folk pop, ie if it's got no balls then he'll dig it... PJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:00:21 EST From: Trace72019@aol.com Subject: Wayne Kramer: His Guitar for the World to See Following is the WAYNE KRAMER itinerary for 1999's "Live Like A Mutherfucker" tour of the East Coast. The response was terrific from Bompers requesting the full schedule, so we're offering it up here for all the world to see. Thursday, January 7 New York City, NY Knitting Factory Friday, January 8 Philadelphia, PA Upstair's at Nick's Saturday, January 9 Boston, MA Mama Kin Music Hall Sunday, January 10 Hoboken, NJ Maxwell's Tuesday, January 12 Cleveland, OH Wilbert's Wednesday, January 13 Pittsburgh, PA Club Laga Thursday, January 14 Detroit, MI Alvin's Friday, January 15 Chicago, IL Double Door Saturday, January 16 St. Louis, MO The Galaxy *Wayne Kramer's full web site at www.waynekramer.com is under construction...Because man cannot live on a welcome page alone.* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 09:33:14 -0500 From: Evan Davies Subject: more unexpected coolness At the movies over the weekend I saw a trailer for a new movie called "Rushmore." The opening (and dominant) music clip was the Creation's "Making Time." Looked like it might be a half-decent movie, too. And how about those trendsetting Insomniacs?! First they started doing "Tom Tom," then the Prissteens added "How Does It Feel To Feel" to their set, then that trailer. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:54:25 EST From: danman76@juno.com (Daniel M Horowitz) Subject: Re: Teenage Shutdowns: I'm Down Today James Parrett wrote: > > Where can I buy these guys online? I imagine www.crypt.de would have these for the cheapest, although with the $4 postage you may be tempted to buy 4 items. Doesn't make much sense to buy a $7.50 record and then pay $4 to have it sent. Dan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:54:25 EST From: danman76@juno.com (Daniel M Horowitz) Subject: Re: Help! :-) >Or go whole hog and get Nuggets. You can find it under fifty bucks. It all comes down to how many comps you may want to have. If you don't have many, the Nuggets set is the smart choice for a one-stop collection with great notes. Moreover, some of the great Pebbles cuts appear here too. None of the Back From The Grave cuts were selected for the set (as far as I know). Pebbles corrected a lot of their sound quality problems on the CDs, which seem the way to go. I'd consider very few of these songs "pop", but the songs here definitely feel more "crafted" than the Back From The Grave cuts. My favorite is actually vol. 10 on CD, which you could sample and not repeat yourself with any Nuggets cuts. The Back From The Graves don't give you much variety, but if three-chord wildness is your thing, this is the series that delivers. Unless you don't have a turntable, go for the lps. Dan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:55:48 -0500 (EST) From: DEACON ALLEY Subject: Re: more unexpected coolness I've heard good things about "Rushmore"--namely, that it's one of the best films about adolescence ever made. I tend to fall for hyperbole and then get disappointed by my less-than-impressed reaction to the actual product, but I'll keep an open mind, especially if it's got a decent soundtrack. I had an encounter with unexpected coolness this weekend myself while watching "Shine," the movie about the Australian classical pianist who went nuts. There's one brief scene that takes place in a London nightclub, ca. '67 (when he was a student at the Royal College of Music), in which you get to see scantily-clad showgirls gyrating to the Troggs' "With a Girl Like You." Deena ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 10:36:57 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: Teenage Shutdowns: I'm Down Today There's also a Crypt e-mail address in California, so the postage will be far less than buying it and having Tim send it from Germany. On Mon, 4 Jan 1999, Daniel M Horowitz wrote: > > James Parrett wrote: > > > > Where can I buy these guys online? > > I imagine www.crypt.de would have these for the cheapest, although with > the $4 postage you may be tempted to buy 4 items. Doesn't make much > sense to buy a $7.50 record and then pay $4 to have it sent. > > Dan > > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 09:08:32 PST From: "mike sinocchi" Subject: the wayback machine another great radio show of swingin' tunes on the net! kopper sounds like a pro.... i got back to my apartment late saturday night/sunday morning to find no heat, but kopper kept things shakin' and stirrin' as i drank cup after cup of hazelnut decaf.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:07:56 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: dissed NO ONE is gonna vote for their fave Shutdown? Well, shucks. Evan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:14:27 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: dissed Probably I'm A No Count, then Jump, Jive, & Harmonize, and The World Ain't Round, It's Square. Blair On Mon, 4 Jan 1999 SHBEVLON1@aol.com wrote: > > NO ONE is gonna vote for their fave Shutdown? Well, shucks. > Evan > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 11:13:48 -0600 From: grinderman@juno.com (Jeffery Hess) Subject: Psych-Out! playlist for 1/3/99 My very first show! Except for a couple of minor miscues and a non-existant cart, it went off extememely well. I got about 10 calls (all positive) from new listeners. If there were any insomniac Bompers tuned in, tell me what you thought. Attention bands and labels related to the psych genre: SEND ME YER STUFF!!! Jeffery Hess PO Box 2138 Imperial MO 63012 Love-7 & 7 Is? Pink Floyd-Lucifer Sam 13th Floor Elevators- She Lives The Pretty Things-S.F. Sorrow The United States Of America-The Garden Of Earthly Delights The Boniwell Music Machine-Bottom Of The Soul The Blues Magoos-There's A Chance We Can Make It The Luv Bandits-Mizzer Bahd The Brain Train-Me Hydro Pyro-Colors Blue Cheer- Feathers From Your Tree The Amboy Dukes-Surrender To Your Kings Laghonia-Someday New Dawn-Dark Thoughts Donovan-Superlungs, My Supergirl The Move-Flowers In The Rain Deep Purple-Chasing Shadows The Nice-Diamond Hard Blue Apples Of The Moon Genesis-In The Beginning Hawkwind-Lord Of Light Aphrodite's Child-Let Me Love, Let Me Live Amon Duul II-Archangel Thunderbird Jefferson Airplane-Watch Her Ride Captain Beefheart-Abba Zaba The Crazy World Of Arthur Brown-Prelude Nightmare The Yardbirds-Glimpses The Kinks-Wicked Annabella The Red Crayola-Hurricane Fighter Plane Iron Butterfly-Unconsious Power The Nazz-Lemming Song The Monkees-Daily Nightly Syd Barrett-No Man's Land Silver Apples-A Pox On You Can-Mother Sky The Mothers Of Invention-Help I'm A Rock The Lemon Pipers-Through With You Alice Cooper-Living The Glass Prism-To The Byrds-Thoughts And Words Grac Slick & The Great Society-Grimly Forming The Deviants-Child Of The Sky The Soft Machine-That's How Much I Need You Now The Beatles-It's All To Much The Glass Family-I Guess I'll Let You Go Jeff ********************************************************************************* Psych-Out! The cost of one admission is your myynd!! KDHX FM 88.1 Sunday mornings 3-6 AM (CST) Immediately following The Wayback Machine Live netcast: http//www.kdhxfm88.org/live.asp ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:11:53 -0600 From: grinderman@juno.com (Jeffery Hess) Subject: Greaser's Lunchbox At this very moment (Monday Noon-2pm CST) you can check out the Greaser's Lunchbox rockabilly show with host Al Swacker on KDHX! http//www.kdhxfm88.org/live.asp Jeff ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 12:15:30 -0600 From: grinderman@juno.com (Jeffery Hess) Subject: Re: Psych-Out! playlist for 1/3/99 >Imperial MO 63012 That should be 63052, sorry. Jeff ************************************************************************ Psych-Out! The cost of one admission is your myynd!! KDHX FM 88.1 Sunday mornings 3-6 AM (CST) Immediately following The Wayback Machine Live netcast: http//www.kdhxfm88.org/live.asp ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 19:20:13 +0100 From: MC BIGOT Subject: Re: Best of 98...and of 99 Too Much Monkey Business vol. 1. This one came out a couple of months ago. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:42:16 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: Stupid awards-Dans le garage Harrumph! Once again, I lost the "Best Black Guy in a Fuzz Fest Band" award. But to who? Arthuly, Brian Phillips ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:53:20 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: First song played in 99 No Money, No Honey - Ian and the Zodiacs. I was learning it for a Jan. 2 gig. Brian Phillips ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1999 04:46:56 +1100 From: "J'son.." Subject: Re: Help! :-) I fully recommend "BTTG" #3 and "Pebbles" #8 & #10 also the new "Nuggetts" box set from Rhino is brilliant, an all you need to know for starters in one little box. PEACE AND PAISLEY DREAMS J'son.. (ufo4zzzfm).. - -----Original Message----- From: shepherd To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Monday, 4 January 1999 4:54 Subject: Re: Help! :-) > >shannon caddigan wrote: > >> My main qualm is this, if it breaks down to having a choice between >> Pebbles and "Back" I don't know which one to buy (I know, both sounds >> logical but I'm on a tight budget over here! :-) well for a little >> while at least)...hence I need help! > >Hey! > >Why not try a couple of each and see which you prefer. > >I suggest >Pebbles #5, #8, #10, #14 >BFTG #5, #2, #7 > >And try a couple Teenage Shutdowns. > >Or go whole hog and get Nuggets. You can find it under fifty bucks. > >Seeya, >Kip > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 12:15:08 PST From: "Erin Truscott" Subject: Help with Pebbles, BFTG If you can still get it, I think that the box set of Garage Punk Unknowns is also a really great "starter" comp. Although some of my faves from the records aren't included in the box it's still a cool selection of some out and out punkers and some more jangly, melodic stuff. Erin ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:14:57 +0000 From: Jonathan Mills Subject: Am I in hot water??? >Hey Mojo - then what do you recommend as a good or great comp????? - -- Oh God, people are getting c-cross at me. I didn't mean anything honest!!! I think the Teenage Shutdown comps are fine, but Tim's taste isn't the same as mine -- read the coming issue of Shindig in which I review all 10 copies and you'll find out that I adore some and hate others. By no means are they a faultless collection... I think the 'Paranoid' comps (UK Mod/psych) are faultless. When it comes to garage, New England Teen Scene Vol 1 and 2 are fantastic, as are all of the Texas Flashbacks. My fave new garage comps are 'Love Is A Sad Song' and 'No No No'. - -- Jon 'Mojo' Mills, Shindig Magazine, London, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:07:49 +0000 From: Jonathan Mills Subject: Evan's and Mojo's tastes... >n Mojo..one of these days you and I are going to agree on something! >Evan - -- Hey, I'm not trying to have a grudge match with you. Paul has told me that you're a very nice young man,I don't intentionally slam you down. It's just a question of taste man, I know that some of the stuff I adore you'd hate, so don't worry. We'll probably never agree.... - -- Jon 'Mojo' Mills, Shindig Magazine, London, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 19:30:13 +0000 From: Jonathan Mills Subject: Oh no, not the same debate again. Please.... >Pretty Average? - -- Okay, an overstatement. They're good .............. > These comps have a bunch of incredible singles that >would cost you a fortune to purchase. - -- Sure, some of the songs are utterly fantastic. But the again, others (an appaling version of 'I'm Free', the band name escapes me) are utter dog spew. Tim has his own tastes but they don't run to mine. > >You either like garage or you don't. - -- I love it and have been listening to it for a long, long time. I have even played in a *garage* band (whatever that means??)!! Look, I'm not trying to start a flame, Pete, but like all forms of music there's good and bad. I love UK psych, euro stuff, soul, jazz, folk-rock, R'n'B.... but not all of it. How can you possibly say you bloody well either like garage or not!!!?? I really enjoy US fuzzy-pop, folk-punk and acid-punk, but it all has to be well produced, well sung and played. Perhaps in your books this isn't garage??!! The Basement Walls and the ('I Didn't Have To LOve Her') Outcasts are great musicians and singers. Some, and I do say some, of the bands on BFTG and T.Shutdowns are awful. Those fucking records you talk of are only expensive cuz so few were printed. The plain fact is that they are bad!! Nobody wanted them in the first place. We've already had the debate on dealers setting high prices from their own price guides!! > Seems that some people around >here fall into the latter category! - -- I think not. I say for a 40+ year old you have an infantile mentality!! Go back to the playground Mr High'n'Mighty. Read mine and Paul's mag Shindig, you'll find plenty of garage within! - -- Jon 'Mojo' Mills, Shindig Magazine, London, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 11:30:24 +0100 From: Massimo Baseotto Subject: Teenbeat Mayhem I read on the suggested reading of the Nuggets box that "Mad" Mike Markesich will publish a book titled "Teenbeat Mayhem" this year. Have someone any further info? Thanks Massimo ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 15:50:31 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: Teenbeat Mayhem In a message dated 1/4/99 12:34:48 PM Pacific Standard Time, m.baseotto@oderzo.nettuno.it writes: << I read on the suggested reading of the Nuggets box that "Mad" Mike Markesich will publish a book titled "Teenbeat Mayhem" this year. Have someone any further info? >> Last I heard, he was still looking for a publisher to finance it. He did a mini collector's tour a few years back and went around to a lot of collectors homes to invade their collections & copy down wax numbers, labels, etc. The book should be very impressive and the most complete and accurate book to date when it finally comes out. I don't think a date has been set yet, but I'll try to find out any info. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1999 16:21:46 -0400 From: "Justina Davies" Subject: New Year's Eve w/Hate Bombs I'm dying to read from anyone who rang in the new year with the Hate Bombs...... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:19:54 PST From: "Christopher Lynn" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V98 #1530 Blair-- Your points are well-taken & definitely accurate. I'm not crying sour grapes for myself b/c we're newer than new. It takes LOTS of advertising & even a few 7"s out to get ANY notice, but NYC is a different beast than other places in the country. I DO come from the land of few shows (IN) & I did, at that time, go to absolutely anything even remotely interesting, travelling a few hours usually to Cincinnati or Chicago or Louisville to do it. I guess I've just lived the extremes. But having toured, I SHOULD know better & thank my lucky stars I have plenty of shows to choose from these days. NYC is a connection town bigtime, which is why a band like The Prissteens gets the shows they do. You may like them; I do not. Regardless, I feel there are a lot of other bands who deserved to play w/ The Real Kids b/c The Prissteens already did. But I also know that, at least the first time around, John Felice specifically requested to play w/ them. So kudos to them. I can't touch that. But then again, my old band got to play w/ Thee Headcoats/The Makers in DC, Philly, & Boston b/c I vaguely knew Vic Mostly, while I imagine there were probably local bands cursing us for commandeering the covetted spots. So fair is fair, right? Maybe it's all in my imagination, but I just see the bills that happen on the Left Coast & about clubs that specifically concentrate on garage/garage-punk/surf/whatever shows, & it sounds like they pack 'em in. Bands like The Makers have specifically told me that the West Coast is way more happenin'. Maybe I'm only hearing about the good shows. I'm sure there are probably a shitload more that turn out like most of the garage shows in NYC. But it's not for lack of effort that NYC seems limp-wristed & spandex-clad. I know that Todd Abramson tries at Acme, but no one seems to be going there. Maxwell's is kickin' again, & that's great. Todd/Telstar & the Norton crew do a lot of good things. Mostly, I'm just being snide about "the scene" b/c that's what paying out the ass to play in a rock'n'roll band in a city where the cost of living is so freakin' high can do to a person. It's all for fun, & that's what it is, most of the time. But you're right, advertising is the key, so shameless as that can be, I do & shall. I thank you & all other Bompers for whatever support you may be able to give... And let me add... THE EASY LIVIN' can be seen at Backstage/Black Cat in D.C. on Wed., Jan. 20 Upstairs @ Nick's in Philly, PA on Thurs., Jan 21 Cyclone Room/Coney Island High in NYC on Fri., Jan. 22 P.S. Blair--send me your address off-list & I'd be glad to send you a tape! > >Subject: Re: New Year's Eve in NYC > >>Unfortunately, only the really well known garage shows in NYC get >>anybody in attendance, > I have a hard time believing new bands get a huge crowd to start off >anywhere. (Unless, of course, they're some kinda supergroup or they reside >someplace where absolutely NOTHING is happening.) How long it takes to >build an audience depends on a variety of factors: (1) how well the band >promotes itself, (2) if they have a good number of connections around town >to hook them up with decent shows, (3) if they're actually any good, etc. >Yeah, and lotsa luck. Some of my favorite bands have never gotten great >attendance. On the other hand, they've usually been the ones with the most >staying power. (Way too many bands have been top draws around town and then >fallen off the edge only a year or two later.) Enough on that. > >>out here & a lack of lesser bands worth a shit (of course my own lesser >>band--The Easy Livin'--plug plug--is worth many many shits!) > Now, I'll admit I don't go out as much as I did five or six years ago, but >I still see a TON of rock'n'roll shows. But how could anyone possibly know >what kind of stuff a band did just by seeing a name in an ad? PROMOTE, >PROMOTE, PROMOTE!!! Get on a bill with other bands people want to see. What >kinda stuff does your band do? If you don't want to tell everyone on the >list, let me know off-list. I don't get out during the week much these days >(I'm a teacher), but if you play on a weekend and I can make it, I'd be >happy to give you a chance. Sure, I'd prefer to hear a tape first... > And if I really like you, then I'd be happy to tell my friends about it. >That word of mouth thing can do wonders. Heck, I love the idea of there >being bands around town that I haven't seen yet. (And, yes, I do plan to go >see Kevin's band, Lynch, pretty soon.) > >>Nevertheless, I am dragging out to one of these this New Year's Eve & am >>even torn about which to attend b/c when it rains, it fucking well >>storms. At The Continental, probably my choice, is THE DEVIL DOGS (one >>of the best bands I've ever seen 10 times, reunited!) w/ The Candy >>Snatchers, The Plungers & a bunch of other bands that don't belong on >>the bill. That's $12 advance, $15 at the door. Around the corner at >>Coney Island High is The Dictators & The Fleshtones downstairs (an >>amazing show by itself!) & The Real Kids (saw their last reunion show a >>few months ago--fucking awesome!) w/ those girl-pop hacks The >>Prissteens >>(I shouldn't even mention 'em, but I guess some people like 'em--they >>always seem to get the good bills...) upstairs, all for $25. > Or $20 in advance. > The full Coney Island High downstairs bill is The Kowalskis, The Ton-Ups, >The Fleshtones, The Dictators. Upstairs it's DemonSpeed (or DemonSpawn, I >dunno), then The Prissteens (yeah, I like 'em, tho' I miss Tina) and The >Real Kids. > The Devil Dogs are due on at Continental at Midnight according to both the >ticket AND the Fabulous Andy G. Of course, the ticket ALSO says some band >is on at 11, then lists the Plungers after them with no time, then the >Devil Dogs at 12, so... See, I really want to see both the Devil Dogs AND >the Real Kids. (And, yeah, I'd like to see the Dictators, too.) > > An embarrassment of riches, for sure. (And we haven't even mentioned the >Muffs at Maxwells... but I'm seeing them tonight with Sit N'Spin and the >Prissteens... also at Maxwells.) > > Blair > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1999 13:37:33 PST From: "Christopher Lynn" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V98 #1531 It was a great show, Devil Dogs-wise! I too recall when they would play for no cover or barely any (those were also the days when you could come & go at will, buy a beer around the corner, drink it right it front of the club, then go back in--alas, were it not for Guiliani & Trigger...). They were as good as I've ever seen them. I forgot actually how amazing they used to be. The only things that have changed: Steve's lost more hair, gotten a bigger gut & grown a Jackie Gleason mustache, & Dave Ari Turetsky is back in the fold. Rumor has it that they're back together, but they deny it. But they also denied at their Halloween show in Philly that they were doing a New Year's Eve show in NYC. So anyway, they were amazing! AMAZING! Andy has more charisma than anyone I've ever seen on stage. He kills me. Unfortunately, after nostalgically thinking it was great that the crowd was so nuts for them again, they killed me too; & by the time The Devil Dogs went off, I had to get the hell out of that violent, little sweatbox. Since Trigger allows no reentry to his club, I missed The Plungers (who had to go on after) & The Candy Snatchers, though I hear their set was marred by technical difficulties. What else is new? Oh, their album is! The new Candy Snatchers kicks ass. Ok, enough from me... >As for new year's, if I was in NYC you'd find me at the Devil Dogs show >for sure. It's funny to me that there are advance tickets. Five years >back I think you could still catch the Dogs at Continental, NO COVER!!! >They are one of the best live bands I've ever seen. Anyway as far as I >know, them and the Candy Snatchers (another one of the best bands I've >seen) get like an hour and the Plungers who are right before Devil Dogs >have like 20 minutes. I hope you all will get to catch them as well. i >imagine ContinentaL still has that no re-entry policy huh? > >Happy end of the century > >Squeaky > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 99 16:51:12 +0000 From: "BB" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V98 #1531 >It was a great show, Devil Dogs-wise! I too recall when they would play >for no cover or barely any (those were also the days when you could come >& go at will, buy a beer around the corner, drink it right it front of >the club, then go back in--alas, were it not for Guiliani & Trigger...). When Alan Roy owned the place (then known as the Continental Divide) it was much more fun. First of all, the dinosaur theme was upbeat and cool. Secondly, you could go in and out at will. And, thirdly, it was free. Absolutely free. Starting in October of '88, The Senders played every Monday night for two months straight, then took a month off, then back on for 2 months, etc. They'd invite guest bands to open and it was quite the scene. We actually *looked forward* to Monday nights!!! The months that the Senders (who'd reformed that year) were not playing, other bands hosted... The Devil Dogs, The Waldos, DaWillys, etc. I probably spent almost every Monday night for a couple years at that club. Such is life... Blair ------------------------------ Date: 4 Jan 99 17:08:49 +0000 From: "BB" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V98 #1530 Christopher Lynn wrote: >NYC is a >different beast than other places in the country. NYC is a >connection town bigtime, I'd have to agree. The only suggestion I can make to bands trying to get going around here is to find groups that you actually like and try and do shows with them. Sometimes bands are able to build their own scenes and then, when they end up on a bill with some bands that they *don't* usually play with, the fans of the other bands get into it more 'cuz they see other people enjoying it. They wonder what the fuss is about. Let's face it, most people are more likely to give a band a chance if they think other people already like them. > which is why a band like The Prissteens gets >the shows they do. Probably true. Of course, to be fair about it, they *have* been around a couple years now. They didn't exactly start off getting the big shows... rather, they played the Lakeside Lounge. Of course, that whole connection is a good part of what helped them... The Hound, Jim Marshall, runs the Lakeside and a couple Prissteens work there. And Jim manages the band. He's got tons of contacts. So, yes, they've got the connections, but they had to do something, at least, to start. In essence, though, I agree. Some bands get crowds because of what they've done before (which I feel is valid, at least for awhile) and others because they hang out with certain people (something I may not like, but it's a fact of life.) >is way more happenin'. Maybe I'm only hearing about the good shows. >I'm sure there are probably a shitload more that turn out like most of >the garage shows in NYC. It depends on the band... and the current cycle. At various points, I've seen garage shows packed. (Of course, I think the best attendance was in the mid-80s, but I like the variety on today's scene better. But that's a whole 'nother subject.) Put together the right show in NYC and the place is jammed. > But it's not for lack of effort that NYC seems >limp-wristed & spandex-clad. OK... who's wearing spandex? I hope Tom Jorgenson isn't gonna pull off his postal uniform at the next Neckbreakers' show and show off his spandex. AAAUUUUUGGHHHH! > I know that Todd Abramson tries at Acme, Actually, he's not doing Acme any longer. He needs the time for Maxwells. >but no one seems to be going there. Maxwell's is kickin' again, & >that's great. Extremely... especially for those of us Jersey-side. :-) And he's bookin' some pretty great stuff, too. >Mostly, I'm just being snide about "the scene" b/c that's what paying >out the ass to play in a rock'n'roll band in a city where the cost of >living is so freakin' high can do to a person. Take a subway to my suburb sometime. We've got trees and all that kinda thing. And, if you look hard enough, you can find a big apartment for you and a couple friends for $1100 or $1200. (And, where I am, the buses to the city run all day and, uh... all of the night.) Oh yeah, and you can park on the streets without worrying... and rehearsal space is cheaper than NYC. Or, if you get lucky and find a house to rent (me and a couple friends had a 3 Bedroom, complete with basement, backyard, and 1 car garage a couple years back for $1260), you can practice in the garage... or basement. Blair ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V99 #4 ************************* ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com