From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V99 #61 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@interport.net bomp-digest Wednesday, February 10 1999 Volume 99 : Number 061 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: Re: Valentine's Eve show "JOANNA M" Re: Valentine's Eve show "JOANNA M" Re: Let's Work Out with SSSSSSSSSS pt1 "Joseph Beretta" rondelles Don Smith Re: Re: re: Valentine's Eve show "JOANNA M" Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! Rocky Serkowney Re: Memo From Turner Planckzoo@aol.com Re: RE: Valentine's Eve show "Blair" Re: Valentine's Eve show "Blair" RE: Valentine's Eve show Christopher Phillips Kings v. Tones, was Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! "Blair" Re: RE: Valentine's Eve show "Joseph Beretta" Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! FFortune@aol.com Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! Glynis & Richard Ward RE: Human Instinct CDs "MARKMAN, PETER" Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! "Beryl Roberts" Devil Dogs lyrics... Brendan Lepschi Re: Devil Dogs lyrics... SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: Devil Dogs lyrics... SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: The Kings TSanc43763@aol.com Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! DrSwag66@aol.com Re: The Kings "Beryl Roberts" Re: Holly Golightly "Beryl Roberts" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:13:52 +1100 From: "JOANNA M" Subject: Re: Valentine's Eve show >he Raiders >> "Run For Your Life"-The Beatles (maybe they don't >> count, Well Beatle debate to one side, I reckon the Nancy Sinatra version is the better one - that lady can rock when she wants!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:11:53 +1100 From: "JOANNA M" Subject: Re: Valentine's Eve show Hello Blair, what does Deb look like now??? >On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, DENIS LALONDE wrote: > >> Whatever happened to Deb O'Nair? > Well... she did play with The Fuzztones at Cave Stomp. (And was >hanging out at the 'FMU Record Fair that Saturday afternoon.) > >> How well I remember taking all those >> Das Furlines chicks out to eat at a Chinese restaurant > Deb O'Nair, Wendy Wild, Liz Luv, Holly Hemlock (anyone else?)... >The Priestesses of Polka! Personally, I loved their version of "Funky >Town." They were quite the entertaining bunch. > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 17:33:55 -0800 From: "Joseph Beretta" Subject: Re: Let's Work Out with SSSSSSSSSS pt1 >>Also there was a big ol' hit version by Lenny...Dee? in the late 50s?, > >Lenny Welch in 1963. Lenny Dee was an organist. > Yeah, I can't believe I fumbled that one. Joey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:10:45 -0500 From: Don Smith Subject: rondelles >> See this is the thing, and I know Blair will get ticked off >> at me for saying this, The Muffs were too gruff, The Fastbacks were >>to smart for their own good and Cub was too lo-fi and 6X is just >>right.... >Yeah, but have you heard The Rondelles? the Rondelles are my new neighbors (well, a block or two over). Much graffitti. Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 12:22:12 +1100 From: "JOANNA M" Subject: Re: Re: re: Valentine's Eve show >The Pandoras and the Brood wrestle in an all-girl blow out, in green jello. >Who's the winner? The Green Jello!. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 21:23:36 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! Yeah, well I think we all learn the hard way how e-mail can sometimes amplify an opinion or a little irony/sarcasm in between the sender and the many receivers on this list. In other words, personal taste/opinion good...over-generalization bad! If you flame out, you can expect to be singed a bit in return. As for the green (and purple?) jello cat fight, I'm hoping for a draw (with no noticeable scars on either band. This is way-cool fantasy and could lead to a whole series. Headcoatees vs. Girl Bombs? On a more serious note, I dug early Pandoras as much as anyone, but was very disappointed by their misguided change in direction (at least the C. Kings recovered from similar follie). The Brood have definitely written, covered and performed some amazing material too...and they've never wavered from the NOW sound! That's gotta count for something. But, outside of the fantasy frolics, I don't see any point in sayin' one band's better than the other. We don't spend a whole lotta time on the list comparing the Fuzztones and the Chesterfield Kings, Both are great and both have had their weaknesses. so why pit trailblazing femme garage bands against each other. If anything, we need more musically-inclined chicks inspired by both the Brood and the early Pandoras. '66-fixated and proud of it! Rocky. At 06:59 PM 2/9/99 EST, you wrote: > >All I meant by the "elitist snob" crack was that it seems to me that most of >the subscribers are so narrow-minded that they won't give anything past 1966 a >chance. I wasn't fond of the Pandoras going hard rock, but I knew them very >well, and happen to know that Paula thought that they could be more succesful >if they went that route. As far as the "work" remark, I'm saying that to some >people a band is a CAREER, and they spend all their time trying to make it >succeed. And in my book playing music, ANY kind of music, would beat having a >day job I hated. I just think that most people who criticize don't really >understand the true motivation behind some bands decisions to try new things. >And who said you couldn't have an opinion? > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 20:49:33 EST From: Planckzoo@aol.com Subject: Re: Memo From Turner The Stones Single collection mentions Ry Cooder playing slide guitar. No other musicians are mentioned. Another anti Valentine song What's this Shit Called Love-By The Pagans Eric ------------------------------ Date: 9 Feb 99 21:37:18 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: RE: Valentine's Eve show On Tue, Feb 9, 1999 5:45 PM, The Thing wrote: >I think you're wrong, "misogynist" is not the right word for "North Shore >Bitch" or the Devil Dogs/Rat Bastards. No. "She ain't nothin' but a pig with tits" isn't misogynistic? The dictionary defines misogyny as a "hatred of women." A misogynist, therefore, hates women. I agree, I don't think The Devil Dogs hate women. (Having known those guys (and their precursor band, The Rat Bastards) for a long time, I know for a fact that they don't.) However, that does not prevent some of their lyrics from being "misogynistic;" they portray a hatred of women (e.g. the lyric shown above.) Usually, lyrics are called "misogynistic" when they talk about treating women in an extremely shabby fashion (so as to imply a hatred of sorts towards those of their gender.) Under that definition, other Devil Dogs' recordings will fit, as well. ("Hosebag" springs to mind. I'd have to check downstairs, as that might've been written by Childish, but I think the Devil Dogs were the first to release it. It's been 11 years or so since those guys recorded that, so my memory's a bit rusty.) I'm not putting the band down for it, merely stating my opinion. Heck, in my mind The Devil Dogs are one of the absolute BEST bands of the past decade (another would be The Original Sins; no misogyny on their end, tho' "Just 14" certainly had subject matter that many objected to.) Blair ------------------------------ Date: 9 Feb 99 21:39:40 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: Valentine's Eve show On Tue, Feb 9, 1999 9:11 AM, JOANNA M wrote: > >Hello Blair, what does Deb look like now??? Pretty much the same... but older with darker hair. And she said she could be convinced to do more Fuzztones stuff in the future. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 13:12:08 +1030 From: Christopher Phillips Subject: RE: Valentine's Eve show It looks like there needs to be an album of Stepping Stone covers similar to the louie, louie one of a few years ago (Rhino??) chris > -----Original Message----- > From: danman76@juno.com [SMTP:danman76@juno.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 1999 4:04 AM > To: bomp@xnet2.com > Subject: Re: Valentine's Eve show > > > >Stepping Stone-Monkees/Sex Pistols/Flies/Leaves > > Besides the Paul Revere/Raiders version, we've also got The Rebounds, The > Stillroven, and the possibly "original" version by The W C Fields > Memorial String Band. > And Minor Threat too. > > Dan > ___________________________________________________________________ > You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. > Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html > or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: 9 Feb 99 21:45:39 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Kings v. Tones, was Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! On Tue, Feb 9, 1999 4:23 PM, Rocky Serkowney wrote: >We don't >spend a whole lotta time on the list comparing the Fuzztones and the >Chesterfield Kings I'd be happy to. Overall, I'd hand it to The C. Kings. I loved all the stuff they did up to and including Don't Open Till Doomsday. Berlin Wall of Sound didn't do much for me. Drunk On Muddy Water was OK. Of course I liked Night of the Living Eyes, but that was early recordings, so it doesn't deserve to get lumped into the post-'87 category. Let's Go Get Stoned (I might have the title wrong) was decent Mick Taylor-era Stones' type stuff, but didn't set me on fire. However, the band's surf vocal disc was nothing short of GENIUS! And some of the recordings they've done lately on the garage side have been damn good, too. The Fuzztones... Leave Your Mind At Home was great. Lysergic Emanations was good. The Bad News Travels Fast 45 was great. And then Rudi left NYC. Some decent stuff, but nothing I really cared to buy. I've heard people say good things about the recent single, but I haven't heard it yet. While I thought the Fuzztones were great in their NYC period, I still preferred The Chesterfield Kings. To me, they were what it was all about. (And those wild nights at Scorgies at 150 Andrews Street in Rochester will forever live in my memory.) (As will some great nights spent at the Dive and Irving Plaza in NYC.) Blair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 19:11:15 -0800 From: "Joseph Beretta" Subject: Re: RE: Valentine's Eve show >"She ain't nothin' but a pig with tits" isn't misogynistic? > >The dictionary defines misogyny as a "hatred of women." A misogynist, >therefore, hates women. But isn't there a big difference between hatred of an individual woman and hatred of women in general? I mean, the line you quoted certainly suggest hatred of the woman referred to, but I don't think it implies anything about the guy's opinion of the the other billion or so women in the world. Just being picky, Joey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 9 Feb 1999 21:51:24 EST From: FFortune@aol.com Subject: Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! In a message dated 99-02-09 21:35:14 EST, you write: << (at least the C. Kings recovered from similar follie). >> Have the Chesterfield Kings really recovered?? Check out their new album, It's all covers of pretty common stuff, aside from a couple of titles and one with Mark Lindsay. I mean 5 Years Ahead Of My Time, Good Guys Don't Wear White, 1-2-5, I'm Not Like Everybody Else, Little Girl, We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet, Misty Lane, Happening Ten Years Time Ago! You Rub Me The Wrong Way. Don't get me wrong but most of these classics should only be played live among your original tunes. Come On!!! A Garage Oldies Band or what? I know these cats can do better. Five Years Ahead Of My Time Indeed!!!!!! Dennis Archer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 22:45:45 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! Freddy: I thought that those songs were a good start at getting back into doing what I consider cool material. I agree, I'd rather hear some cool originals, but that really was never what the Kings were all about, even though they wrote some pretty darned good tunes!!! Apparently, the long-awaited new LP has some great originals. Ya know, not everyone can have such a great song writing team as Fortune & Maltese!!! Glynis Ward http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy Feline Frenzy Teen 'Zine Scene http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy/canadian.html Canadian 60's Garage Band Page ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:50:18 +1100 From: "MARKMAN, PETER" Subject: RE: Human Instinct CDs >Date: Tue, 09 Feb 1999 04:02:06 PST >From: "Speranza David" >Subject: human instinct cd's >great to see that the first three Human Instinct albums legitimately >being re-issued on cd,always suspected the german releases were >bootlegs,the ascension releases apparently have the original artwork >too,anyone got them yet? are they actually out yet? >they are apparently out early feb Funny you should mention those - I helped on the artwork (i.e. did the whole thing) a couple of weeks ago. I'll give John at Ascension a call tomorrow and see how they're progressing (PROGressing - get it? Sorry). Peter M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 14:32:22 +1000 From: "Beryl Roberts" Subject: Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! What's wrong with "Five years ahead of my Time"? I love that song!! And Monster Magnet do a pretty cool version of it too! (Sorry, but you have to understand... everything in my life comes back to Monster Magnet, tragic but true!) Judy Jetson - -----Original Message----- From: FFortune@aol.com To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Wednesday, 10 February 1999 13:28 Subject: Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! > >In a message dated 99-02-09 21:35:14 EST, you write: > ><< (at least the C. Kings recovered from > similar follie). >> > >Have the Chesterfield Kings really recovered?? Check out their new album, It's >all covers of pretty common stuff, aside from a couple of titles and one with >Mark Lindsay. I mean 5 Years Ahead Of My Time, Good Guys Don't Wear White, >1-2-5, >I'm Not Like Everybody Else, Little Girl, We Ain't Got Nothin' Yet, Misty >Lane, Happening Ten Years Time Ago! You Rub Me The Wrong Way. Don't get me >wrong but most of these classics should only be played live among your >original tunes. Come On!!! A Garage Oldies Band or what? I know these cats >can do better. > >Five Years Ahead Of My Time Indeed!!!!!! > >Dennis Archer > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 15:59:08 +1100 From: Brendan Lepschi Subject: Devil Dogs lyrics... Blair says: >Usually, lyrics are called "misogynistic" when they talk about treating >women in an extremely shabby fashion (so as to imply a hatred of sorts >towards those of their gender.) Under that definition, other Devil Dogs' >recordings will fit, as well. ("Hosebag" springs to mind. I'd have to check >downstairs, as that might've been written by Childish, but I think the >Devil Dogs were the first to release it. It's been 11 years or so since >those guys recorded that, so my memory's a bit rusty.) I think it was "Suck The Dog" that Billy Childish wrote for the Devil Dogs (there is also a version of that song by Thee Headcoats somewhere - the "Heavens..." LP maybe?). Still, not much difference between that song and "Hosebag" when it comes to sentiment. Brendan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:02:56 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: Devil Dogs lyrics... In a message dated 2/10/99 0:01:40 AM EST, B.Lepschi@pi.csiro.au writes: << I think it was "Suck The Dog" that Billy Childish wrote for the Devil Dogs (there is also a version of that song by Thee Headcoats somewhere - the "Heavens..." LP maybe?). Still, not much difference between that song and "Hosebag" when it comes to sentiment. Brendan >> Childish wrote Suck The Dog, Hosebag and Pussywhipped. Evan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:33:26 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: Devil Dogs lyrics... oh and the version of Suck the Dog was Thee Mighty Caesars ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 00:53:35 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: The Kings In a message dated 2/9/99 11:42:15 PM EST, brobert@powerup.com.au writes: << What's wrong with "Five years ahead of my Time"? I love that song!! And Monster Magnet do a pretty cool version of it too! (Sorry, but you have to understand... everything in my life comes back to Monster Magnet, tragic but true!) >> It's a great song, but I'd expect a brand new garage band to cover it, but not the Kings. I've always dug the Kings and I know they aren't the kingpin songwriters (when the Lyres/Kings split 45 came out, it wasn't hard to figure out which Kings original the Lyres would cover). I think the point here is that the Kings have been doing this for almost 2 decades and Greg has an amazing collection of discs. I think they could've pulled off an lp of obscure as heck covers and it would've appealed to more people. I remember buying their first lp when it came out and thinking half of the tracks were originals. They always would amaze me covering the most obscure stuff in the 80's before the tracks were ever comped. I agree w/Freddy on this one, an lp by them w/obvious covers isn't something I'd wanna play more than once. Tony's 2 cents ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 01:22:20 EST From: DrSwag66@aol.com Subject: Re: Pandoras vs Brood, and the chip on my shoulder! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:44:42 +1000 From: "Beryl Roberts" Subject: Re: The Kings You wrote: I remember buying their first lp when it came out and thinking half of the tracks were originals Haha! I did almost exactly the same thing!!! Of course it was about 1984 or so when I got my first Chesterfield Kings record, "Stop!" (which was sadly stolen last year) kinda by accident, had NO idea who they were and didn't know anyone else at school who knew of them, but I thought it looked cool and bought it anyway...wow!!! they were THE coolest band I'd ever heard next to the Stems!!! Living in this neck of the woods though, I didn't really know anyone else who was interested in this kind of music, especially after the "Grunge explosion" (for want of a better term) which hit ole Brisbane town pretty hard. So when 60's style guitar pop type stuff became unfashionable, it was practically impossible to get without spending an awful lot of time and money....Then Monster Magnet came along, but that's another story!! But yes, I'll agree with you guys on that point as well, the Kings should surely be able to think of some less well known tracks to bring back and amaze everyone with. Most of the songs they've done for this new album are commonly covered by loads of bands all over the place... I still love "Five Years..." it's one of my faves of all time!!! Do we really need to hear another version though? Judy Jetson p.s. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers, I didn't mean to! - -----Original Message----- From: TSanc43763@aol.com To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Wednesday, 10 February 1999 16:08 Subject: Re: The Kings > >In a message dated 2/9/99 11:42:15 PM EST, brobert@powerup.com.au writes: > ><< What's wrong with "Five years ahead of my Time"? I love that song!! And > Monster Magnet do a pretty cool version of it too! (Sorry, but you have to > understand... everything in my life comes back to Monster Magnet, tragic but > true!) >> > > It's a great song, but I'd expect a brand new garage band to >cover it, but not the Kings. I've always dug the Kings and I know they aren't >the kingpin songwriters (when the Lyres/Kings split 45 came out, it wasn't >hard to figure out which Kings original the Lyres would cover). > I think the point here is that the Kings have been doing this for almost 2 >decades and Greg has an amazing collection of discs. I think they could've >pulled off an lp of obscure as heck covers and it would've appealed to more >people. I remember buying their first lp when it came out and thinking half of >the tracks were originals. >They always would amaze me covering the most obscure stuff in the 80's before >the tracks were ever comped. > I agree w/Freddy on this one, an lp by them w/obvious covers isn't >something I'd wanna play more than once. Tony's 2 cents > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Feb 1999 19:47:17 +1000 From: "Beryl Roberts" Subject: Re: Holly Golightly You Wrote: You can tie me up, strut and then clobber me. Got that right my petite vixen? It's got to be in that order if not it ain't no fun. Goodness, Victor, you ARE saucy!!!! Judy Jetson - -----Original Message----- From: Victor To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Friday, 5 February 1999 1:26 Subject: Holly Golightly > > >Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:51:40 PST >From: "mimi la twisteuse" >Subject: Holly Golightly > >Has anybody heard Holly Golightly's new album? On what label is it? Will >I have to clobber Victor on the head to steal his copy? > >Mimi > >I heard it baby!!! And it's beautiful!!! It's on Damaged Goods Records. It's called >Serial Girlfriend (That's pretty close to you mimi!!!) All originals except for an >Ike and Tina cover!!!! BTW I'd love to be clobbered by you. You can tie me up, strut >and then clobber me. Got that right my petite vixen? It's got to be in that order if >not it ain't no fun. > > > ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V99 #61 ************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com