From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V99 #71 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@interport.net bomp-digest Sunday, February 14 1999 Volume 99 : Number 071 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: Coffee 'n' Smokes Playlist, 2/13/99. APiandes@aol.com Re: The Sic F*cs "Deena Canale" Re: Let's Work Out: It's "T" time "Deena Canale" Lewis & Clark & George "Blair" Dead End Playlist 2/9/99 rat fink (3.5) How Ari learnt about garage... Jonathan Mills Don't Open 'til Doomsday Jonathan Mills Stronger Than Dirt Playlist 2/13/99 unkraut@io.com (Scott Gardner) Re: Don't Open 'til Doomsday Rocky Serkowney Re: (3.5) How Ari learnt about garage... "Blair" Re: Let's Work Out! It's "T" Time! "Joseph Beretta" Re: Let's Work Out! It's "T" Time! Rocky Serkowney Re: (3.5) How Ari learnt about garage... Rmerchandz@aol.com Re: Navarros? shepherd Re: Neatbeats shepherd re: Soul Struttin'/Another 10p Worth Steve & Annette Golden Nuugeres Re: Navarros? TSanc43763@aol.com Re: Let's Work Out! It's "T" Time! shepherd Re: "T" Time! Larry Shell Re: Neatbeats Glynis & Richard Ward Re: Navarros? Rocky Serkowney Re: Soul Struttin'/Another 10p Worth TSanc43763@aol.com 80s scene "Blair" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 07:20:04 EST From: APiandes@aol.com Subject: Coffee 'n' Smokes Playlist, 2/13/99. Hello BOMP!ers. Most songs played this week had the words "love" or "hate" in the title. Most of the love songs were of the whiny lost love variety. If any stories were told in these sets, it was purely unintentional. In keeping with the call-in thread, I got two. One for the Miles Dethmuffin track (good stuff, actually...), another for info on The Remains/Lost/Rising Storm Show. Here goes for 13 February: The New Breed-It's Love (V/A The Polaris Records Sory/Bacchus Archives) Wilson Pickett-Jealous Love (I'm In Love/Atlantic) Bo Diddley-Who Do You Love (Greatest Sides, Vol. One/Chess) The Kinks-I'm A Lover Not A Fighter (Kinks-Size/Reprise) DM Bob & The Deficits-How Do You Spell Love (Bad w/Wimen/Crypt) The Gories-Give Me Love (Houserockin'/Wanghead With Lips) The Rolling Stones-That's How Strong My Love Is (Out Of Our Heads/London) The Dickheads-She Loves You (7"/Walking Dead) Bonnie Hayes with The Wild Combo-Loverboy (Good clean Fun/Slash) The Morning Shakes-Love U Better (Dead) (Switchblades and Sideburns/Stiff Pole) Miles Dethmuffin-Hate Gives Me A Warm, Tingly Feeling (V/A Violet Crumbles/Dahlia) Gravedigger V-Hate (All Black And Hairy/Voxx) Alice Cooper-I Love The Dead (Billion Dollar Babies/Warner Bros.) Thee Mighty Caesars-Signals Of Love (Surely They Were The Sons Of God CD/Crypt) The Pagans-What's This Shit Called Love? (Street Where Nobody Lives/Resonance) The Pandoras-Want, Need Love (It's About Time/Voxx) The Animals-I'm In Love Again (Best Of.../M-G-M) Birdland w/Lester Bangs-I'm In Love (S/T/Bacchus Archives) Three From Three-Girl In Love (V/A I'm Down Today/Teenage Shutdown) Ramones-Here Today, Gone Tomorrow (Rocket To Russia/Sire) Thee Wylde Maniacs-Why Ain't Love Fair (V/A N.E. Teen Scene-Next Generation/Arf! Arf!) Kim & Grim-You Don't Love Me (V/A Girls In The Garage, Vol. 1 CD/Romulan) The Surf Trio-To Surf With Love (Forbidden Sounds/Dionysus) The Underdogs-Love Gone Bad (V/A Nuggets Box/Rhino) Dino, Desi, and Billy-Good Lovin' (Memories Are Made Of This/Reprise) The Troggs-With A Girl Like You (Best Of.../Rhino) The Eastern Alliance-Love Fades Away (V/A Relative Distance/Stanton Park) Just Luv-Valley Of Hate (V/A Pebbles 16/A.I.P.) The Diaboliks-Lovin' Machine (7"/Screaming Apple) The Standells-Can't Help But Love You (Best Of.../Rhino) Ariones-Gimmie Some Lovin' (V/A Greek Garage Bands Of The 60s/no label) The Squares-Making Love (7" EP/Get Hip) Johnny Horton-All For The Love Of A Girl (7"/Columbia) Doc Starkes-Love Me Like Crazy (V/A Desperate Rock and Roll, Vol. 1 CD/Flame) "Groovey" Joe Poovey-The Thrill Of Love (Greatest Grooves/Dragon Street) The Lost-Searchin' (Early Recordings/Arf! Arf!) The Ones-Love Of Mine (V/A Pebbles 25/A.I.P.) The Lyres-Love Me 'Til The Sun Shines (On Fyre/Ace Of Hearts) The Cardinals-You Aren't My Love (7" EP/Golbin) Mystic Eyes-If I Say I Love You (The Whole World Is Watching/Get Hip) The Apollos-Target Love (V/A Pebbles 13/A.I.P.) New Colony Six-We Will Love Again (Revelations/Mercury) The Odds & Ends-'Cause You Don't Love Me (V/A Garage Punk Unknowns, Part Two CD/Crypt) The Kaisers-Soldiers Of Love (Squarehead Stomp!/Get Hip) The Bush-Got Love If You Want It (V/A Scum Of The Earth/Wanker) Kempy & The Guardians-Love for A Price (V/A Garage Punk Unknowns, Part Two CD/Crypt) The Grodes-Love Is A Sad Song (V/A Love Is A Sad Song/Misty Lane) The Idols-True Love Gone Astray (V/A N.E. Teen Scene, Vol. III/Moulty) The Starfires-I Never Loved Her (V/A Pebbles 8 LP/B.F.D.) The Worlocks-I Love You (V/A B.F.T.G., Part 7 LP/Crypt) The Werps-Love's A Fire (V/A B.F.T.G., Part 6 LP/Crypt) The Modern Lovers-Someone I Care About (S/T/ Beserkley) Coffee 'n' Smokes airs every Saturday morning from 6-9am (EST) Visit the website: http://members.aol.com/apiandes/Main/ Check yez later Alex Piandes Coffee 'n' Smokes WMFO (91.5fm) Medford, MA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:44:08 -0400 From: "Deena Canale" Subject: Re: The Sic F*cs The Sic F*cs featured Tish & Snooky Bellomo, owners of the first "punk rock" clothing shop on St. Mark's Place, Manic Panic. These two chicks sang back-up for Debbie Harry in an early incarnation of Blondie. According to the 3rd edition of the Trouser Press Record Guide, they released only one 5-song self-titled e.p. Deena - ---------- >From: MC BIGOT >To: bomp@xnet2.com >Subject: The Sic F*cs >Date: Sun, Feb 14, 1999, 3:33 AM > > >Yesterday I saw a pretty fun horror flick, "Alone In The Dark" (with no >less than Jack Palance, Martin Landau & Donald Pleasance). There's a >scene in a punk club with the Sic F*cs. I've seen that name before but >had no idea these guys could be any good but they seemed to be from what >I saw. Their songs for the movie were produced by Andy "Dictator" >Shernoff. So here're the questions: who are (were?) they? and is there >anything by them still available & worth to get? > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:48:40 -0400 From: "Deena Canale" Subject: Re: Let's Work Out: It's "T" time There's Always Something There to Remind Me--Burt Bacharach- penned, & first popularized by Sandie Shaw. The Wayward Wind--Gogie Grant 'Til There Was You--sung by Marian the Librarian in "The Music Man." By the way, the Beatles' version on "Live at the BBC" has a stupendously suave guitar solo by George, and early hints of Paul's more crooning Dennis O'Dell side. You know my name, look up de number, Deena ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 99 11:05:59 +0000 From: "Blair" Subject: Lewis & Clark & George Rented a movie while out at my brother's place last night called Lewis & Clark & George. As the opening credits are rolling, I see "Music by Ben Vaughn." I was pretty psyched... and it just got better. Besides a large number of Ben Vaughn originals, there was a ton of excellent music, mostly in a Southwestern/country vein, but also including stuff by Los Straitjackets, Deke Dickerson, and a couple by Simon & the Bar Sinisters. Anyone know if there's a soundtrack available for this? Blair ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:23:44 -0500 From: rat fink Subject: Dead End Playlist 2/9/99 Hey, Here's this weeks playlist for Dead End Radio...Tuesday night from 10 pm until midnight on WUSB 90.1FM in New York (Stony Brook, to be exact). All part of WUSB's Tuesday Night Rock And Roll Dance Party!!! Varlets, Good Times...Listen To This demo cassette, I Ain't Goin' Out Like That M-80's, In A Fury lp, Get Hip, I Can't Believe You Devil Dogs, 7"ep, Dog Meat, Australia, I Ain't Got Time Enough For Love / Kissin' Cousins Zeke, 7"ep, Rat City, Green Barracuda New Bomb Turks, Destroy Oh Boy! lp, Crypt, I Want My Baby...Dead?! Statics, Punk Rock And Roll lp, Rip Off, Can't Get Enough Superfly T.N.T.'s, No Talent? No Shit!! split 7"ep w/the Coyote Men, Vendetta/Real, UK, (Baby) You Give Me The Creeps Standells, Dirty Water cd, Sundazed, Dirty Water Blue Stars, Trans World Punk vol.2, Crawdad, Social End Product Dave Starky Five/Just Us, Get A Move On comp. lp, Teenage Shutdown, Stand There Surf Stompers, The Original Surfer Stomp lp, Del-Fi, The Original Surfer Stomp Bobby Lee Tremmell, The Big Itch vol.1 comp. lp, Mr. Manicotti, Toolie Froolie Rivieras, Let's Have A Party lp, Star Club, Sweden, Tossin' And Turnin' Satelliters, Shake Shake Shake cd, Dionysus, You'll Waste Your Time Phantom Rats, Shake Shake Shake 10", 1+2, Japan, Red Hot Smoke Jumpers, Flat Tear It Up cd, Walking, Put Myself In Your Hands Hollywood Playboys, 7"ep, X Factor-Y, Italy, Nobody But You Easy Livin', Sin Along demo cassette, So Messed Up Blowtops, Deep Thrust cd, Flying Bomb, Do The Vamp Mants, The Mant From U.N.C.L.E. 2x7"ep, Lance Rock, The Red Monkey T Lance & the Cocktails, 7", Telstar, Why? Fireworks, Set The World On Fire lp, Crypt, Whatcha Want Lord High Fixers, 7", No Lie, I Cant Believe Candy Snatchers, 7", Junk, Shut Your Mouth Gotohells, split 7"ep w/the Nobodys, Hopeless, I Wanna Be A Ramone Supersnazz, 7", Sympathy For The Record Industry, Our Favorite Thing Morning Shakes, 7"ep, Wallabies, Japan, Trash Action Girl Curse Of Horseflesh, Burning The Jade cd, Roto-flex, Canada, The Bloody End Crusaders, Fat Drunk And Stupid lp, Dionysus, Hot Rod Baby Fortune & Maltese & the Phabulous Pallbearers, 7", Cad, Good And Plenty Del Vamps, Play With Fire cd, Continental, Drag Strip Guaranteed Ugly, s/t lp, Hangman's Daughter, UK, Do Me Right Gravedigger V, All Black And Harry lp, Voxx, She Got Mustangs, Back From The Grave vol.7 comp. 2xlp, Crypt, That's For Sure Spiders, 7"ep, Sundazed, Hitch Hike Volcanos, Finish Line Fever lp, Estrus, Finish Line Fever Blasters, Sounds Of The Drag lp, Crown, Chopped And Channeled Triptides, Wail On The Beach comp. lp, Satan, Go Mustang Penetrators, split 7"ep w/the Space Cossacks, Solemente, Redlined Cavemen, The Big Itch vol.4 comp. lp, Mr. Manicotti, Bowling Alley Oop Teengenerate, Smash Hits lp, Estrus, Let's Get Hurt Splash 4, Filth City 10", Estrus, Know It All Doll Swindlers, Wild Wild Teenagers 7"ep, Wild Wild, France, Go Go Get Out Of My Way Von Zippers, Bad Generation cd, Estrus, Plastic Bag Cosmic Dropouts, Crashed Cars And Broken Hearts 7"ep, That's Entertainment, Norway, Sick OF You Baby Cee Cee Beaumont, Ready To Riot 7"ep, Damaged Goods, UK, West Coast Ear Plug 1.4.5.'s, Planetary Annihilation 7"ep, Estrus, Armagavin Destroy! Registrators, 7", Rip Off, Monkey Vendettas, 7", no label, Can't Stop Preceeding Dead End Radio, from 9 to 10pm...it's Bop Street and that went something like this: No Bop Street this week...we got bumped for some special porgraming. ***************************************************** Up and coming....as if you don't know already, This coming Tuesday, February 16th we got THE EASY LIVIN', making their appearance on the Rock And Roll Dance Party!!! **************************************************** - -Michael The Tuesday Night Rock And Roll Dance Party (Bop Street / Dead End Radio) http://www.wusb.org/deadend 9pm until Midnight on 90.1FM WUSB Stony Brook, New York HEY! WUSB CAN STILL BE HEARD OVER THE 'NET!!! ALL YA GOTTA DO IS HIT UP THE WEB PAGE. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 12:01:21 +0000 From: Jonathan Mills Subject: (3.5) How Ari learnt about garage... In message , ARei160287@aol.com writes >Mojo- > I have a sense of humor, but I find people like you, who "got into garage in >the 90's after it was over" to grate on my nerves, simply because you act like >experts , when you weren't even aware, let alone part, of the scene that paved >the way for the stuff you dig NOW! No, no I have feelings for what you're talking about but you're still getting me wrong. I heard garage (real 60s garage) in the mid-80s but wasn't aware of the garage-revival until later. My point is that the *original*, *real* garage band music still stands up well today whereas thes 80s bands don't! But I'm sure, as you say, being part of that 80s scene was exciting. I mean look at contemporary music back then, it was terrible.. - - Jon 'Mojo' Mills Shindig Magazine London, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:55:13 +0000 From: Jonathan Mills Subject: Don't Open 'til Doomsday >Nope. But Stop's not my fave Kings' LP, either. Believe it or not, >gang, I vote for Don't Open Till Doomsday. Still, I think each one of >those first three was an EXCELLENT releas Absolutely, Blair. I think it's their best too. The reason I think it's not appreciated is because of the stupid image the guys adopted around this period. It's a solid record though and manages to bring something new to garage without ballsing it up (well, in our opinion anyway). - - Jon 'Mojo' Mills Shindig Magazine London, UK ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 11:22:14 -0600 From: unkraut@io.com (Scott Gardner) Subject: Stronger Than Dirt Playlist 2/13/99 The following was the Stronger Than Dirt playlist for February 13. I did a Valentine's Eve show and played all anti-Valentine's music. A big thanks to all of the people on Bomp-L and B-T who sent me suggestions. STD can be heard every Saturday night from 8-10 on KOOP Radio, 91.7 FM, Austin, TX. Satan's Rats You Make Me Sick (7") Humpers Plastique Valentine (Plastique Valentine lp) 13th Floor Elevators You're Gonna Miss Me (Psychedelic Sounds of... lp) The Morloch It's Time You Realised (Diggin' for Gold, vol. 5) Flies Steppin' Stone (Broken Dreams, vol. 1) Muffs I Don't Like You (7") Wildebeests Please Go Home (7") Oblivians Love Killed My Brain (7") Scientists We Had Love (7") Buzzcocks Ever Fallen in Love (Love Bites lp) The Beat (USA) Walking Out on Love (s/t lp) Shepherd's Heard I Know (T. S.: Te world Ain't Round) ? and the Mysterians 96 Tears (96 Tears lp) Holly Golightly Virtually Happy (7") Sugarfreaks I Hope You're Happy (s/t ep) Mighty Caesars You'll Be Sorry Now (Surely They Were the Sons of Gods cd) Real Kids Now You Know (7") Vibrators You Broke My Heart (Pure Mania cd) Sex Pistols No Feelings (Never Mind the Bollocks lp) Monks I Hate You (Black Monk Time cd) T-Boones At the Club (Searchin' for Shakes comp) Pandoras You Don't Satisfy (7") Swingin' Neckbreakers I'm in Love With Me (Shake Break lp) Heartbreakers I Wanna Be Loved (L.A.M.F. Revisited cd) Nervebreakers I Love Your Neurosis (Are We Too Late for the Trend comp) Electric Love This Seat Is Saved (Texas Flashback, vol. 5) Starfires I Never Loved Her (Pebbles, vol. 8) La De Da's How Is the Air Up There (WildThings, vol. 1) Fall-Outs She's Out There (Here I Come lp) Delmonas 5 Jealousy (s/t lp) Armitage Shanks You're Here I'm Hooked You're Gone (7") Makers I'm Hurt (Howl! lp) Replacements I'm in Trouble (7") Crime Baby You're So Repulsive (7") Jack & the Rippers No Desire (Pogo Punks comp) The Last I Don't Wanna Be in Love (L.A. Explosion lp) Talula Babies Hurtin' Kind (Florida Punk Groups of the Sixties comp) Headcoatees When You Stop Loving Me (Ballad of the Insolent Pup lp) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 13:40:23 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: Don't Open 'til Doomsday Well, let me weigh in from the perspective of someone who was fairly oblivious to the changing *visual* image the Kings were going through at that time. I think "Doomsday" stands up as a great record, but it doesn't have that same 60's magic that the first two discs delivered with walloping impact. You can hear the slicker, big rock sound creeping in and for me, that is usually a bad sign. Their next few releases continued their slide into musical irrelevance (until "Surfin' Rampage" marked a comeback of sorts). As a fan, I have no problem with bands doing what they think is right for them at a given time in their career. They just shouldn't expect some of us who are more 60's-oriented to dig it. I've always been wary of the money/fame illusion affecting modern garage bands,. While most of 'em relize and accept that it's supposed to be fun, some start to take themselves and their prospects a little too seriously. And I've always maintained that musical "progression" is highly over-rated Why move to an unknow area in squaresville when you already have a great place (and a few cool neighbours) in hipsville? Just my 2 cents (1.33 U.S.). Rocky. At 11:55 AM 2/14/99 +0000, you wrote: > >>Nope. But Stop's not my fave Kings' LP, either. Believe it or not, >>gang, I vote for Don't Open Till Doomsday. Still, I think each one of >>those first three was an EXCELLENT releas > Absolutely, Blair. I think it's their best too. The reason I think >it's not appreciated is because of the stupid image the guys adopted >around this period. It's a solid record though and manages to bring >something new to garage without ballsing it up (well, in our opinion >anyway). > >- Jon 'Mojo' Mills > Shindig Magazine > London, UK > > ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 99 13:50:54 +0000 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: (3.5) How Ari learnt about garage... > But I'm sure, as you say, being part of that 80s scene was exciting. Quite. :-) >I mean look at contemporary music back then, it was terrible.. Has it improved? I think arguments could be made in both directions. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 10:54:33 -0800 From: "Joseph Beretta" Subject: Re: Let's Work Out! It's "T" Time! >Take 5 (Fentones+Spotnicks) > Dave Brubeck Quartet, 1961 >Take this hammer (Junco Partners+Sooner Or Later) > Leadbelly >Tell Laura I Love Her (John Leyton+Ricky Valance) > Ray Peterson, 1960 >That's what I want (Guy & the Turks+Tony Jackson) > I have a 45 by this title that came out in early '64 on RCA, by "The Cicadas"--someone trying to imitate the Beatles. It actually charted in Seattle. The song was written by Carter/Lewis. I don't know anything more about it. >The Birds & The Bees (Astronauts+King Uszniewiecz) > Jewel Akens, 1965, if it's the same song >The Breeze & I (Rhythm Rockers+Tornados) > Jimmy Dorsey & His Orchestra, 1940 >The Caterpillar Crawl (Lively Ones+Teenbeats) > The Strangers, 1959 >The Creep (Jay Epae+Tony Sheridan) > The first US hit was Ralph Marterie & His Orchestra, Jan. 1954. The first UK hit was Ken Mackintosh, Jan. 1954. The Marterie version was "from the Mexican film 'O Cangaceiro.'" >The Cuckoo (Kaleidoscope+Holy Modal Rounders) > It appeared on a 1965 Peter, Paul & Mary LP. An old folk song? >The Kind Of Boy You Can't Forget (Jellybeans) > The Raindrops, 1963 >The Lonely Sea (Bobby Fuller+Ventures) > The Beach Boys, 1963 >The Old Master Painter (Beach Boys) > There were 6 Top 15 versions Dec49/Jan50. The biggest was by Richard Hayes; the first to chart were Dick Haymes and Snooky Lanson, both a week prior to Hayes. >There's a kind of hush (Herman's Hermits+Foreign Objects) > As far as I know Herman's Hermits were first (?) >There's always something there to remind me (Lou Christie+Golfs) > A version by Lou Johnson charted 8-22-64 in the US; Sandie Shaw's version charted 10-8-64 in the UK (and later in the US). I don't know that that's a definitive answer though. >The Shimmy (Belairs+PJ & the Galaxies) > Appeared on a 1961 Chubby Checker LP. >The Snake (Liverpool 5+12345) > Is this the 1968 Al Wilson hit? >The way you do the things you do (Cherry Roland+Trends) > The Temptations, 1964 >The Wild One (Honells? or Go Go's? or Super Stocks? or?) > Bobby Rydell had a big hit by that name in 1960, but I don't know if this would be the same song. >Three Coins In The Fountain (Atlantics+Chantays) > Four Aces, 1954 >Tie Me down (Dino Desi & Billy+Turtles) > I thought DD&B were the originals, but I'm not sure. Written by David Gates. >Too Many Fish In The Sea (Mitch Ryder+Young Rascals) > Marvelettes, 1965 >Tryin' To Get to You (Astronauts+Elvis Presley+Roy Orbison) > Was Elvis the original? >24 Hours from Tulsa (was it Gene Pitney?) > Yes. It's sad to realize the alphabet is coming to an end--how will we get our workouts when it's over? Joey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 14:39:13 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: Let's Work Out! It's "T" Time! At 10:54 AM 2/14/99 -0800, you wrote: > >>The Birds & The Bees (Astronauts+King Uszniewiecz) >> >Jewel Akens, 1965, if it's the same song This version/song plagued my young ears back then with 10 times a day airplay. One of the sappiest ever. Another reason for anti-Valentine's Day music! Rocky. > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:29:01 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Re: (3.5) How Ari learnt about garage... In a message dated 2/14/99 12:59:43 PM, jon@mojo-mills.demon.co.uk writes: <Mojo- > I have a sense of humor, but I find people like you, who "got into garage in >the 90's after it was over" to grate on my nerves, simply because you act like >experts , when you weren't even aware, let alone part, of the scene that paved >the way for the stuff you dig NOW! I should blame my dad for not going to see the Music Machine in 1966. I would have been a rocking seed in his pants! "Look, something in that man's crotch will one day love garage music, let's make him a necklace out of macaroni." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:07:53 -0600 From: shepherd Subject: Re: Navarros? TSanc43763@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 2/12/99 11:32:18 PM EST, shepherd@garply.com writes: > > << > Has the Navarros 45 been comped or reissued anywhere? It was released > on Corby in '65 or '66. > >> > It's on on of the Golden Nuggets Cd's that Alec Palao put out. Tony Thanks! Next question-Is it worth getting? I guess if the rest of the CD is good, it's not that bad, but I'm mainly interested in the Neighbrhood Childrn stuff. Seeya, Kip ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:24:56 -0600 From: shepherd Subject: Re: Neatbeats > The main problem is publicity. Dr. Explosion played in LA to FIVE people. Enough of that, how was the show in Atlanta? Seeya, Kip ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 22:07:09 +0000 From: Steve & Annette Subject: re: Soul Struttin'/Another 10p Worth DJ Paul wrote: >>Soul Struttin' (Jamie Lyons + Ohio Express) >Interestingly this looks like it was co-written by Tony Orlando. ...With Marty Thau before the latter hooked-up with the Dolls. Also covered in 1978 by The Fleshtones when hardly anyone ('cept Monoman and a few others) could give a shit about garage music, Rudi Potrudi and the Fuzztones were *not* even around and young Mojo was still listening to the Father Abraham & the Smurfs in his crib. Thankfully Conolly and Zaremba remain with us and are still just as consumed by that teen spirit as they ever were. Maybe this is sad as hell for some of you who are a little weary and have "seen it all" but they still move me to tears from time to time - especially while ironing shirts with 'vs Reality' blasting! Both the Lyres and the 'Tones have dredged/synthesised the past and found *their* own style instead of getting side tracked by sixties fashion accessories and period detail. Sure I love The Chesterfield Kings and Tell Tale Hearts but they are, and for ever will be at least in my books, a pastiche of their record collections. Sometimes you just want to slam the door on them after screaming "Come on guys, fuck things up a little, keep the energy right there, but let's have some of your *own* personality shining through". The great, great tragedy is that Greg Prevost so very nearly found his way out of this connudrum with 'Domesday' but has now returned to the "Let's make a record just like the Fantastic Baggys would in '65" approach. This was interesting in '82 but so boring in '99. Which also reminds me, and this goes out to certain 'zine editors, let's stop talking just for a minute (or preferably even longer) about all these so called living legends who made a 45 in '66, pressed-up 500 copies, supported the Raiders, then went to college and became dentists (btw nothing against dentists). It really is time the older and unfashionable farts from the seventies garage scene (yeah, you got that right pal!) such as the Z-man and Conolloid were credited with the legacy they have left *and* continue to leave us. Yeah, I know it's insane to say this but I really believe these guys are just as essential as a host of lesser talents credited as garage icons. Flame away if this notion irks you! IMHO garage rock is not just about dressing up like the Music Machine with sharks teeth dangling round your neck, it's about uncontrolled emotion (anger/hate/love/retribution etc) à la Rudi Martinez singing '96 Tears' with such intense *feeling* it damn well hurts you inside. Yeah I can see ? right now, there he is onstage at the Dome, decked out in spandex trousers while several sad-o Mods look on aghast at the sacrilege being done to their sixties alter 'cause the band do not look right. So will you be standing there besides ?/Zaremba/Conolly in twenty five years time and digging those same wigged-out emotions my friends? Probably not, but, you know I'm counting on you to prove me wrong. Yours respectfully Steve Coleman ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø HAVE YOU ENTERED THE GARAGE? http://www.pro-net.co.uk/scaf/garage.html THE FLESHTONES HALL OF FAME http://www.fleshtones.co.uk ¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø,¸¸,ø¤º°`°º¤ø ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:17:06 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Golden Nuugeres Re: Navarros? In a message dated 2/14/99 4:52:44 PM EST, shepherd@garply.com writes: << Next question-Is it worth getting? I guess if the rest of the CD is good, it's not that bad, but I'm mainly interested in the Neighbrhood Childrn stuff. >> The Golden Nuggets series is ideal if one is interested in detail towards a specific label. Alec does a great job putting them together and the info is top notch. While I enjoy them as a collector, a few CD's in the series (they're only on CD) I wouldn't put on again and again. Because you're getting a complete label or complete output by a band it there will be some filler type tracks (alt versions, weak tracks that are interesting but that's it). There are some top notch tracks on them though, mixed in within everything else. There are some exceptions though, I love the 'Good times are happening' for instance is pretty consistent all the way through. One of the reasons I'm more meticulous about this series is that they're a little expensive and I have to be more selective in spending the cash. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 16:37:22 -0600 From: shepherd Subject: Re: Let's Work Out! It's "T" Time! > That Is R'n'R (Rattles+Crawdaddys) The Coasters did it first. Leiber and Stoller wrote it. > There's always something there to remind me (Lou Christie+Golfs) Gloria Jones? I think Ed Cobb wrote it. Seeya, Kip ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:23:50 -0500 From: Larry Shell Subject: Re: "T" Time! MC BIGOT wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 08:51:18 +0100 > From: MC BIGOT > Subject: Let's Work Out! It's "T" Time! > > Thanks to Brian, Frank, Glynis, Lola, Moparlary, Wigout (?), Blair, > Joey, Kip, PJ & Dave for their appearance in our previous episode. Today > we're gonna try to see if you can deal with a marathonian exercice, the > biggest yet! Only the strongest will stand on their feet til the end... > Good luck boys'n'girls! > > So who did it first... > > > > > > Tell Laura I Love Her (John Leyton+Ricky Valance) Ray Peterson > That Loving Feeling (Atlantics+Honeycombs) If this is actually (You've Got) That Loving Feeling, then its the Rightous Brothers > The Birds & The Bees (Astronauts+King Uszniewiecz) Jewel Akins (sp?) > The Caterpillar Crawl (Lively Ones+Teenbeats) If its the same song I'm thinking of, Joe Hill Louis > There's always something there to remind me (Lou Christie+Golfs) Arrrgh! I should know this one, some British invasion band! > The Wayward Wind (Gene Vincent+Scorpions) Gogie Grant had the hit, unsure if she was definitely the first to record it. > The way you do the things you do (Cherry Roland+Trends) Its one of the Motown groups, probably the Temptations > Tryin' To Get to You (Astronauts+Elvis Presley+Roy Orbison) Bill Allen > 24 Hours from Tulsa (was it Gene Pitney?) Gene Pitney for sure > Still with me??? Barely, I'm usually a few days behind on reading digests so by that time, many others have responded. Happy to have a chance to show off my astounding musical knowledge. :) Larry Shell ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:49:32 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: Neatbeats Kip: Enough of that, how was the show in Atlanta? The first show the other night was totally awesome. The boys had the audience down on their knees. We'll see how tonight's goes. We kind of tired them out at the record fair today. I think they spent all of Friday's earnings!!! Glynis Ward http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy Feline Frenzy Teen 'Zine Scene http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy/canadian.html Canadian 60's Garage Band Page ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:51:00 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: Navarros? At 04:07 PM 2/14/99 -0600, you wrote: >> >> >> It's on on of the Golden Nuggets Cd's that Alec Palao put out. Tony > >Thanks! > >Next question-Is it worth getting? I guess if the rest of the CD is >good, it's not that bad, but I'm mainly interested in the Neighbrhood >Childrn stuff. > >Seeya, >Kip > > Hey Kip, I think someone mentioned it was on the "Good Things Are Happening" volume of this series. The whole bunch are great, but this one is a standout. Rocky. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Feb 1999 17:54:27 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: Soul Struttin'/Another 10p Worth In a message dated 2/14/99 5:13:37 PM EST, scaf@pro-net.co.uk writes: <> >>>>>>>> some more 2 cents (with no intent to dog anyones opinion) I only had the opportunity to see the Kings 3 or 4 times early on so I cannot comment on their full history (Blair could probably do this) , however the TTHearts were a different story of course. WHile the TThearts were the epitome of '66 Texas garage meets Dutchbeat, they wrote a lot of originals and their shows were MANIC at times. You would have no idea what would happen on stage at times. With Bill blowing the harp, Mike on Bass and Ray jumping in the air every 10th beat they were pretty phenomenal on stage. I have no doubt that if they were to play such a show like that today, people would go absolutely apeshit! When they closed their sets w/ "Won't you listen" it was the best thing ever. I have seen hundreds of bands since then and have yet to see a group attack the Dutch/Texas material with the same assault as the Hearts. (Although the Kings English may be the next contenders) One more point was that the clothes they wore on stage, were never costumes or for the stage... that's what they wore everyday. I remember some fans telling Mike "Man the 60's costumes are great". Ha! The one thing I did notice about the Kings (who I thought were brilliant) was when they played with the Hearts, was their schtick was the same in LA and San Diego. Despite putting on a wyld show, with Greg banging mike stands to no end, the jokes and stage moves were identical at both shows. Still, seeing them was a highlight in my life, they were brilliant. Bands who don't dress up but are still great in my book include: Swinging Neckbreakers, Dead Moon... A band doesn't have to dress up to be good of course, but when they do, I think it's tops and adds that much more to the show. Whether it's gimmic stuff caveman outfits, matching surf era gear, or the TeleTubby outfits of the Phantom Surfers (they were great!) it's all hip in my book. Tony ------------------------------ Date: 14 Feb 99 19:19:01 +0000 From: "Blair" Subject: 80s scene > The one thing I did notice about the Kings (who I thought were >brilliant) was when they played with the Hearts, was their schtick was the >same in LA and San Diego. Despite putting on a wyld show, with Greg >banging >mike stands to no end, the jokes and stage moves were identical at both >shows. >Still, seeing them was a highlight in my life, they were brilliant. Well, 'tis verily true that one of Greg's bits was always obliterating mic stands (he took out a nice chunk of ceiling in a few clubs with 'em, as a matter of fact.) However, I always thought of that to be Greg's prop. As to jokes... Hmm, well, it was rare that I'd see them two nights in a row, except if they played Maxwells one night and NYC the next. But then they knew damn well they were getting a good chunk of the same crowd, so I suppose they wouldn't even consider pulling out the same bits. I saw the Kings numerous times in the mid-80s, since I was going to school up in Rochester, then I'd be home on Long Island (within striking distance of NYC) on vacations (which somehow seemed to be when the Kings would be hitting town.) Besides, People's Express had flights from Rochester to Newark off-peak for $38 round trip. I knew a couple of Rochester high school girls who used to head down to The Dive for a good weekend. Every show The C. Kings did in the mid-80s was mind-numbingly great. They blew the doors off every club they were at. I remember someone asking me if I was sorry I hadn't been around for the 60s, or that I'd missed out on the NYC punk scene. No way. The scene I was experiencing in the mid-80s (be it up in Rochester, with the Kings, Projectiles, Swing Set, Absolute Grey, Hidden Charms, etc., NYC with the Fuzztones, Vipers, Outta Place, Tryfles, et al., or on Long Island with The Mosquitos, Secret Service, Plastic Device, and more) was phenomenal. To me, bands like The Chesterfield Kings, The Fleshtones, The Hoodoo Gurus, and The Lyres were at least as good as any of the bands I was hearing on Pebbles comps. And this gets back to something that Steve Coleman was saying... All I had to go on with those bands were a couple of recordings. With the bands I was seeing, not only did they have a bunch of records, but I got to see just how damn good they were live. (And, to me, the live show is the absolute indicator of how good a band is.) In the mid-80s, The Chesterfield Kings were one of the absolute best on the block. It's true that I didn't like the direction they went with Berlin Wall of Sound, but, well, bassist Andy Babiuk says he hated that one, too. There are, of course, a few bands I'm kinda bummed I never got to see from the mid-80s... Of these, The Telltale Hearts, The Stems, and The Milkshakes are at the top of my list. I suppose I could throw the early Creeps onto that list, too. But I saw some amazing rock'n'roll. Sure, some of the bands were very into the 60s look/sound. It didn't matter to me, 'cuz it was great rock'n'roll. It's possible that such material may not stand the test of time simply because it wasn't done in 1966. To which I respond, if I played it back to back with a 60s track and didn't tell you, would you not enjoy it? Just another point of view, Blair ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V99 #71 ************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com