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bomp-digest         Tuesday, February 16 1999         Volume 99 : Number 075



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The following subjects are included in this digest:
   Re: Milkshakes in the US?
     Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
   Re: Play Stormy For Me
     Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
   Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands
     Rob White <REWHITE@fcc.gov>
   Re: Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands
     Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
   m-i-a?
     laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com
   Mighty Caesars/Milkshakes
     boldface@easynet.co.uk
   Re: Frankenstein 5
     Richard Ward <bossthreads@yahoo.com>
   "Sixties Rock" Book
     Mike.Dugo@deluxe.com
   Re:  (2) How Tony learnt about garage...
     Richard Ward <bossthreads@yahoo.com>
   RE: "Sixties Rock" Book
     "Lindholm, Jeffrey     4-5875" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
   Re: Play Stormy For Me
     Josh Lewis <joshlew@bway.net>
   What about...
     laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com
   re: gurus/hole
     "Joe Emery" <jemery@pstrategies.com>
   Frankenstein 5: Sweethearts of Sweden
     "James Bond" <jamesbondx@hotmail.com>
   Bobby Fuller on E!
     TSanc43763@aol.com
   Re: Play Stormy For Me
     Moparlary@aol.com
   Re: 60s in the 80s
     Moparlary@aol.com
   Re: Bobby Fuller on E!
     "Garrett Brittenham" <garrettb@lodedata.com>
   Equip geek stuff...
     "Garrett Brittenham" <garrettb@lodedata.com>
   Colin Blunstone In Today's NY Times
     Frank Uhle <franku@umich.edu>
   some kill for records
     Lelia Ellen Raley <leliar@umich.edu>
   Re: some kill for records
     Evan Davies <edavies@cdnow.com>
   Re: Rare Breed Vs. The Ohio Express
     dcoyle@bright.net (David J. Coyle)
   RE: some kill for records
     "Lindholm, Jeffrey     4-5875" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
   No such thing
     danman76@juno.com
   Re:  Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands
     ARei160287@aol.com
   RE: some kill for records
     Evan Davies <edavies@cdnow.com>
   Hot & New From Paris!
     MC BIGOT <jerk@club-internet.fr>
   Re:  Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands
     Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
   Re: Smurfs
     boldface@easynet.co.uk

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:19:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Milkshakes in the US?

On Mon, 15 Feb 1999, Joe Bonomo wrote:

> 
> A Milkshakes US reunion tour would be amazing, but I fear that it
> won't happen.  I imagine that Steve Coleman will back up my guess, as
> we've corresponded of late regarding the great Mickey Hampshire and,
> according to Steve, the lad doesn't get out much anymore.

Yeah, I kinda figured the sticking point for a Milkshakes reunion tour
would be Mickey. It's too bad, too, since I think he was at least as
responsible for that band's greatness as Childish was. He's done some fine
recordings since, as well (Mickey & Ludella, Masonics, etc.)

Blair

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 07:28:41 -0500 (EST)
From: Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Play Stormy For Me

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Josh Lewis wrote:

> I had some weird callers when I did college radio as a community member,
> but nothing as bad as that! I did meet an incredibly beautiful woman who
> was a regular caller....and introduced her to the guy who became her
> boyfriend. D'oh! Another guy at my station once emerged after the overnight
>  shift to find one of his female callers waiting for him wearing only 2
> donuts! (No, I don't know what kind they were.)

	How'd you know what my question was gonna be, Josh? ;-)

	I guess the oddest caller we'd get at WRUR (University of
Rochester) was a guy known as Al the Footman. He used to call up and ask,
"So... how're you feeling?"

"Uh, OK, I guess."

"Are you relaxed?"

"Ummm... yeah, I guess."

"Why don't you (breath)... take off your shoes?"

And it continued from there if you let it. As soon as you said, "OK,
*AL!*" he'd hang up. 

Blair

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:07:50 -0500
From: Rob White <REWHITE@fcc.gov>
Subject: Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands

Hey Blair, all those bands that you mentioned were great. Why doesn't anyone on this list talk about the Slickee Boys (who were on the 1st Bomp Battle Of the Garage Bands tour)? They covered a lot of 60s classic garage songs ("Invisible People", "Love In", "Psycho Daisies", :Question Of Temperature") & started out in 1976! I remember Kim Kane (Slickees founder) put out Rudi Protrudi's 1st 45 on his own label (they were called Tina Peel then). I also remember going to Pittsburg around 1983 or 1984 with Kim, & my friend Bobby Spieler took us to Eides to look at used records. There was a guy working there who was STAR STRUCK to see Kim Kane. He would not leave us alone with a million questions - it was Greg Kostilech.

Kim Kane was invited to join both the Revillos and the Cramps at different times in his career.

Obviously I'm biased as a friend of the Slickee Boys, but here are some bands that opened for them when they were just starting out: Chesterfield Kings, Brood, DMZ, Lyres, Fleshtones, Salem 66, Fuzztones, Plan 9, Mosquitos, Das Furlines (R.I.P. Wendy Wild), the Brandos, Kristy Rose & the Midnight Walkers, the Flat Duo Jets, and...U2 - no shit. There are many, many more that I can't remember.

Robbie White

Rob White, FCC Telecommunications
rewhite@fcc.gov
(202)418-1804
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:27:18 -0500 (EST)
From: Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
Subject: Re: Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands

On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Rob White wrote:

> 
> Hey Blair, all those bands that you mentioned were great. Why doesn't anyone on this list talk about the Slickee Boys (who were on the 1st Bomp Battle Of the Garage Bands tour)? They covered a lot of 60s classic garage songs ("Invisible People", "Love In", "Psycho Daisies", :Question Of Temperature") & started out in 1976! I remember Kim Kane (Slickees founder) put out Rudi Protrudi's 1st 45 on his own label (they were called Tina Peel then). I also remember going to Pittsburg around 1983 or 1984 with Kim, & my friend Bobby Spieler took us to Eides to look at used records. There was a guy working there who was STAR STRUCK to see Kim Kane. He would not leave us alone with a million questions - it was Greg Kostilech.

There's no doubt that The Slickee Boys got going before most of the rest.
For that alone, they deserve recognition.

I have to admit, however, that they've never been one of my favorites.
That's not to say that I don't like them; just that they don't get me
jumping up and down the way other bands (some which I mentioned, some that
I didn't) do. On the other hand, I don't recall ever seeing the Slickee
Boys, so that might be part of the reason.

Blair

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:47:13 -0500
From: laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com
Subject: m-i-a?

Some folks have told me their mail to me has bounced back recently...I'm
still here!  If you've had trouble, then please retransmit!
Love,
Jane Fondle
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 14:03:25 +0000
From: boldface@easynet.co.uk
Subject: Mighty Caesars/Milkshakes

I've just spoken to both Billy Childish and Bruce Brand - so this is from
the horse's mouth. The line up of Thee Mighty Caesars in Vegas will be with
Del on drums - Bruce will not be there at all.

As for the Milkshakes re-forming - even for a one-off gig - it is very
unlikely. Mickey Hampshire is almost always comes up to London to see Thee
Headcoats, enjoys jumping around at the front etc but has no intention of
getting up on stage himself. We've tried a few times to persuade him but he
just won't do it, says he simply can't be bothered with performing on stage
any more. Billy may have been in favour of doing it a year or two ago but
he's not particularly interested in a Milkshakes re-union either.

Thee Headcoats, however, have dates in New York, New Jersey, Seattle,
Chicago and San Francisco between 10-22 May.

- - PJ (Dirty Water Club)

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 06:05:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Ward <bossthreads@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Frankenstein 5

"James Bond" - Now THERE's a fake name if I ever heard one.

- -The Bjorn Loser



- ---Glynis & Richard Ward <felinefrenzy@mindspring.com> wrote:
>
> 
> >"Sam" Bjoned
> 
> You are so mistaken. The Frankenstien V sucked. I should know. I was
> subjected to them many, many times. A horrible bunch of guys.
Especially
> this guy who has the gaul to call himself "James Bond" - like he's
ANYTHING
> like the suave and debonair spy! HA!!!! And then to try and be in a
rock 'n
> roll band. He can't pay for crap. And you should see him "sing"????
> You know there are cool bands that call themselves "garage" bands
because
> they have that groovy 3 chord 60's influence, and then there are
bands that
> call themselves "garage" because they just suck so bad, they'll
never get
> out of the space beside the car!!!!
> 
> The pink pussy cat
> 

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:06:27 -0600
From: Mike.Dugo@deluxe.com
Subject: "Sixties Rock" Book

Amazon.Com delivered Michael Hick's spanking brand new book to my doorstep
yesterday (I had ordered it sight unseen by the title alone...).  Titled
"Sixties Rock:  Garage, Psychedelic and Other Satisfactions" it should probably
catch the attention of most Bompers.  It started promisingly enough with a cool
picture of Sean Bonniwell and the Music Machine gracing the cover, and bright
purple and green wavy lines to add some color.  Although I've only had a chance
to browse through it, it appears to be more of a scholarly work and, with some
song chords and progressions, admittedly some of it goes right over my head.
Add to this over 25 pages of notes, and I think you'll get an idea of what's in
store for the reader.
If not, here's a sample line from the first page of the preface:

"Rock musicians played music that was, as the slang of the '60's proclaimed it,
"heavy"--not necessarily in its aural substance (which in any case is difficult
to weigh), but in its intentions and aspirations".

Okeeee.  There are entire chapters devoted to "Hey Joe" and "Light My Fire", and
cool photos of the Standells, Seeds, Paul Revere & The Raiders, Kingsmen, and
Love, and many photos of handbills/posters, so I'm gonna have to give it a
whirl.
Anybody else have an opinion?

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 06:17:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Richard Ward <bossthreads@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:  (2) How Tony learnt about garage...

Congradulations. How does that TVP's song go?? "I was a Mod Before You
Was a Mod"?  Substitute, the appropriate word for "Mod", and the
message has universal applications...

King Bjorn Loser




- ---ARei160287@aol.com wrote:
>
> 
> Mojo-
>   I have a sense of humor, but I find people like you, who "got into
garage in
> the 90's after it was over" to grate on my nerves, simply because
you act like
> experts , when you weren't even aware, let alone part, of the scene
that paved
> the way for the stuff you dig NOW! Most of the bands that you dig
now were
> turned on to garage by bands like the Kings, Fuzztones, Pandoras,
etc. I was a
> part of the original garage scene and can say first hand that it was
cool to
> most people that bands like the Fuzztones and Outta Place combined a
bit of
> their own take on the music-it made it more accesible to most people
who
> weren't aware of the music. 
> Ari
> 

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:25:38 -0500
From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey     4-5875" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
Subject: RE: "Sixties Rock" Book

Me, too. I got it yesterday, not from Amazon.com, but from its publisher,
University of Illinois Press, if that gives you any idea. It's got tons of
footnotes, too. But I think it's gonna be OK. It's not chatty stuff about
the guys in the band, but more a scholarly analysis of the music itself
(notes and common chord progressions, etc) and the times. I kinda like the
idea of a whole chapter examining why and how and what different people
brought to the same song. I did spot in my first look through a long attempt
to define "garage band" when I thought he might have just said "bands of
kids who played in garages in the 60s, and newer bands that try to sound
like them," but I'll give it a try and report back next week. I personally
like this stuff that digs deeper into the music and times. Kinda what Simon
Firth was doing with English rock in the punk days, if you remember his
stuff. 

Jeffery Lindholm
jrl6b@virginia.edu
Health Sciences Editor
University of Virginia

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mike.Dugo@deluxe.com [SMTP:Mike.Dugo@deluxe.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, February 16, 1999 09:06 AM
> To:	bomp@xnet2.com
> Subject:	"Sixties Rock" Book
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Amazon.Com delivered Michael Hick's spanking brand new book to my doorstep
> yesterday (I had ordered it sight unseen by the title alone...).  Titled
> "Sixties Rock:  Garage, Psychedelic and Other Satisfactions" it should
> probably
> catch the attention of most Bompers.  It started promisingly enough with a
> cool
> picture of Sean Bonniwell and the Music Machine gracing the cover, and
> bright
> purple and green wavy lines to add some color.  Although I've only had a
> chance
> to browse through it, it appears to be more of a scholarly work and, with
> some
> song chords and progressions, admittedly some of it goes right over my
> head.
> Add to this over 25 pages of notes, and I think you'll get an idea of
> what's in
> store for the reader.
> If not, here's a sample line from the first page of the preface:
> 
> "Rock musicians played music that was, as the slang of the '60's
> proclaimed it,
> "heavy"--not necessarily in its aural substance (which in any case is
> difficult
> to weigh), but in its intentions and aspirations".
> 
> Okeeee.  There are entire chapters devoted to "Hey Joe" and "Light My
> Fire", and
> cool photos of the Standells, Seeds, Paul Revere & The Raiders, Kingsmen,
> and
> Love, and many photos of handbills/posters, so I'm gonna have to give it a
> whirl.
> Anybody else have an opinion?
> 

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:38:00 -0500
From: Josh Lewis <joshlew@bway.net>
Subject: Re: Play Stormy For Me

At 07:28 AM 2/16/99 -0500, Blair wrote:
>
>
Another guy at my station once emerged after the overnight
>>  shift to find one of his female callers waiting for him wearing only 2
donuts! (No, I don't know what kind they were.)
>
	How'd you know what my question was gonna be, Josh? ;-)
>

I know you Blair! But my therapist is helping me work through it. :)
Actually, your story reminded me of another one. Anybody whose done
community radio knows how important the on-air fund raising 'radiothons'
are. (And anyone who has heard them knows how annoying they are.) Anyway,
one radiothon, we got a bunch of pledges from one generous donor who spread
the wealth to the tune of several hundred dollars in pledges among a bunch
of shows. We were quite psyched and figured we had an eccentric eclectic
listener out in the wilds of Connecticut. So we sent out the collection
forms and waited for the money to roll right in. A week later we got a call
from the guy's priest. Apparently our 'angel' was not quite compos mentis
(nor was he rich), had gotten carried away with the giving spirit (I guess
we were more persuasive than we thought), and then panicked big time when
he got the collection notices. We assured the priest that we would accept
50 cents on the dollar. :)

As for on-air shenanigans, a year or two before my time at the station,
some enterprising soul had G.G. Allin live in the studio. After the
inevitable FCC violations the d.j. was only suspended for the rest of the
semester I believe. I don't know if anyone ever tried to get Wendy O
Williams on. She lived in the general vicinity....

Josh 

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:54:50 -0500
From: laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com
Subject: What about...

...the Cynics when we're talkin' great 80s garage!?!  In addition to the
Fleshtones and the real 60s groups, they're the ones who got me into
garage.  In the middle 80s, I was at a record show, asking for psyche-60s
stuff.  The woman didn't have any, but she did have an *autographed* copy
of BLUE TRAIN STATION for $12...the rest is history!

Also, is Gordon Spaeth currently playing with the Fleshtones?...Steve
Coleman,et. al, if not, where is he?
"Cynic"-ly,
Jane Fondle
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:07:56 -0500
From: "Joe Emery" <jemery@pstrategies.com>
Subject: re: gurus/hole

ok, i'm going to take a shower now.   eeeeeeeeeyuck!  why would those cats
have anything to do w/ a brainless, talentless skank like courtney love? 
who's next, axl rose?

joe
- ----------

anyway, I think it was at the Sydney one
>that Dave Faulkner and Brad Shepherd got up onstage with Hole and did THE
>MOST disgusting version of "Bittersweet" I've EVER heard...

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 08:14:40 PST
From: "James Bond" <jamesbondx@hotmail.com>
Subject: Frankenstein 5: Sweethearts of Sweden

Pink pussycat and Richard,

Contrary to your negative opinions, James Bond (REAL NAME!) is a 
wonderful fellow. I have spoken with him several times and he has been 
nothing but courteous, charming and sauve (girls seem to think he is 
even greater!). The Frankenstein 5 played lots and were probably the 
undisputed kings of the brief Feb.4th  4-5 p.m. 1993 London, Ont. 
garagerock revival but were totally put off when the Pink Pussycat was 
in the audience.Why was this? James once explained that the Pink 
Pussycat was only there to expose his very private personal life in the 
pages of that rag "Feline Frenzy" and the resulting publicity made it 
very hard for him to even walk down the street unmolested by adoring 
fans.I suppose only a Beatle or a Rolling Stone could relate to this...
As for the 'space beside the bar' reference...yes, many times the boys 
came close to passing their bar exam, never actually making it though as 
careers as lawyers seemed alot less fun then just going out for a few 
beers now and then.

Thanks and Ikea,

Sam Bjoned
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:11:41 EST
From: TSanc43763@aol.com
Subject: Bobby Fuller on E!

Anyone else catch the Bobby Fuller mystery scandal show on E last night?
        Also, does anyone out there have a channel called BBC America? I was
wondering if anyone could tell me how this differs from BBC1 & 2.  Thanks Tony
                      

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:15:46 EST
From: Moparlary@aol.com
Subject: Re: Play Stormy For Me

In a message dated 2/16/99 1:26:48 AM Eastern Standard Time, joshlew@bway.net
writes:

<< D'oh! Another guy at my station once emerged after the overnight
  shift to find one of his female callers waiting for him wearing only 2
 donuts! (No, I don't know what kind they were.)
  >>
doooonutttttsss!!! (drooling noise)
                                                    wheres the other 10....
Moparlary

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:10:27 EST
From: Moparlary@aol.com
Subject: Re: 60s in the 80s

In a message dated 2/15/99 5:50:03 PM Eastern Standard Time, blairb1@idt.net
writes:

<< Meanwhile,
 guys like The Fleshtones have kept it up for over 20 years, sticking to
 their guns, playing great rock'n'roll. And yet you hear people ignore them
 and yak on and on forever about some band that did *one* decent single in
 1966. Personally, I think Steve has a point. >>

And the Fleshtones don't parade around like a bunch of bitter old men, upset
about not *making it comercially*  Possibly the best thing that could have
happened to them was the IRS deal fizzling out, because they could call their
own shots and not have some record company dictating what they should play,
wear and sound like.
    Blair and Bill are right that we *the collective we* are lucky that the
"tones and the lyres have stuck with it as long as they have, introducing new
sets of ears to the music at every show. Zaremba promised us many years ago at
a Maxwells  show "A personal Fleshtones experience for each and everyone of
you" and he's never let us down since.
    And I'm not downplaying Billy Childish either. He keeps the music raw and
alive and reminds us this is what its about. We'll be poorer the day any of
them decides to hang it up for good...
                               off the soapbox...Moparlary  

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:36:16 -0700
From: "Garrett Brittenham" <garrettb@lodedata.com>
Subject: Re: Bobby Fuller on E!

BBC America shows "The Young Ones" once in awhile...  that's all I know.

Garrett
>Anyone else catch the Bobby Fuller mystery scandal show on E last night?
>        Also, does anyone out there have a channel called BBC America? I
was
>wondering if anyone could tell me how this differs from BBC1 & 2.  Thanks
Tony
>
>

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:38:09 -0700
From: "Garrett Brittenham" <garrettb@lodedata.com>
Subject: Equip geek stuff...

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 11:38:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Frank Uhle <franku@umich.edu>
Subject: Colin Blunstone In Today's NY Times

There is a review of his show at Fez in NYC and a photo, check it out - in
the Living Arts section.  Also on the web at www.nytimes.com, I would
guess.  Sounds like a pretty elaborate production - a string section for
some songs, even.  Anybody catch it?

Frank

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:11:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Lelia Ellen Raley <leliar@umich.edu>
Subject: some kill for records

Anybody wanna read about a Detroit deejay whose wife and brother-in-law
killed him for his record collection?

(Bompers beware!!)

Today's frontpage story at www.freep.com, the death of Tom Knight and
the Doyle Galleries' auction of his collection - anticipated to fetch $1.2
million.  Poor devil.

Lola

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:18:11 -0500
From: Evan Davies <edavies@cdnow.com>
Subject: Re: some kill for records

>Anybody wanna read about a Detroit deejay whose wife and brother-in-law
>killed him for his record collection?

Wow!  I'd seen a couple of articles about that auction in area (NYC)
papers, and I think The Bomp List's Own Matthew Kaplan posted yesterday
that he was going to check it out today, but I hadn't heard before that he
had (possibly/allegedly) been killed over the collection.  Yikes!

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:30:04 -0500 (EST)
From: dcoyle@bright.net (David J. Coyle)
Subject: Re: Rare Breed Vs. The Ohio Express

>Hello, I hope somebody can solve a mystery for me.  For years I owned
>a 45 by the Ohio Express called "Beg Borrow & Steal".  It was a minor
>hit for them on the boss 30 back in '66 or '67.  I still have that
>record on tape and it sounds exactly like the version appearing on the
>Nuggets Box, but credit is given to a group called   The Rare Breed.
>The Nuggets booklet vaguely makes reference to an "unsubstantiated"
>identity change for this group.  Can anybody verify that these two
>groups are indeed the same?

Let's see if I can answer this in a nutshell, as the whole Ohio Express
story is full of twists and turns.

The Rare Breed were a band from New York or New Jersey. The original Rare
Breed 45 of "Beg Borrow And Steal" came out on the Attack label and was
produced by Kasenetz and Katz, the brains behind the later "bubblegum"
movement of the later '60s. Because the guys in the original band didn't
want to be puppets to the producers, K&K terminated the Rare Breed's
contract. This is pretty much where the story ends in the "Nuggets"
booklet...

The "unsubstantiated identity" refers to the original Rare Breed. Nobody is
sure what happened to them, but they had nothing to do with any later group
by that name, or the Ohio Express, and certainly nothing to do with
Kasenetz and Katz.

However, the single took off, and I think it became a hit in some regions
on the original label. But now, there was no group to promote it. So the
production team recruited a stand-in group. Enter Sir Timothy & The Royals.
They were a Mansfield, Ohio band, pretty popular in the region. They were
managed by the same person who managed the group that became the Music
Explosion. Both groups were signed by Kasenetz and Katz. While the Music
Explosion got their name from a local radio station catch phrase, Sir Tim &
The Royals were picked to promote the Rare Breed single.

Before this was to happen, K&K gave them the name Ohio Express. The "Beg
Borrow And Steal" single was reissued on Cameo/Parkway under the new name.
The flipside, an instrumental called "Maybe" was actually recorded oddly
enough by Cleveland band the Measles, which featured Joe Walsh. So neither
side of the record was actually by the Ohio Express, but that's how it came
out. An album on Cameo was put out, a mishmash of the single and other
studio tracks.

Then in 1967, a followup Ohio Express album was put out on Buddah, which
became the main label of the Kasenetz-Katz team. It was also the beginning
of a practice which really makes the Ohio Express story sad and confusing.
The two singles on the album, "Yummy Yummy Yummy" and "Down At Lulu's" were
not only produced by K&K, but were made by an anonymous studio conglomerate
put together by Kasenetz-Katz and songwriting team Artie Resnick and Joey
Levine. The latter two had had a hit with the Third Rail's "Run Run Run,"
another silly pop tune recorded by studio musicians.

Thus, you have Joey Levine's vocals on the two Ohio Express singles. The
other tracks on the first Buddah Ohio Express album were mostly recorded by
the group that had been the Royals. Unlike the singles, the rest of the
album was actually quite good psychedelic stuff. But it was the singles
that got the airplay, the sales and the promotion. So the Ohio Express has
been wrongfully dismissed as a bubblegum band. To make matters worse, the
Ohio Express changed personnel many times during the rest of the '60s, but
still were under the stranglehold of the Buddah bubblegum empire.

So in answer to your question..."Beg Borrow And Steal" by the Rare Breed is
the same song as by the Ohio Express, but the two groups were totally
different.

Dave

||     "Every new beginning comes from another beginning's end..."    ||
|| David J. Coyle            //             E-Mail: dcoyle@bright.net ||
|| Chillicothe, OH           //   Pursuer of various trivial pursuits ||
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 12:37:35 -0500
From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey     4-5875" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
Subject: RE: some kill for records

Er, yes, I hate to admit it, but I would like to read about this. Where can
I? What NY papers is it in? 

Jeffery Lindholm
jrl6b@virginia.edu
Health Sciences Editor
University of Virginia

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Evan Davies [SMTP:edavies@cdnow.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, February 16, 1999 12:18 PM
> To:	bomp@xnet2.com
> Subject:	Re: some kill for records
> 
> 
> >Anybody wanna read about a Detroit deejay whose wife and brother-in-law
> >killed him for his record collection?
> 
> Wow!  I'd seen a couple of articles about that auction in area (NYC)
> papers, and I think The Bomp List's Own Matthew Kaplan posted yesterday
> that he was going to check it out today, but I hadn't heard before that he
> had (possibly/allegedly) been killed over the collection.  Yikes!
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:01:35 -0800
From: danman76@juno.com
Subject: No such thing

>The Guru's weren't as "pure" a garage band as....

"Pure" and "garage" are probably my least favorite juxtaposition of two
words.  That or maybe "semen" and "stain".

Dan
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:21:45 EST
From: ARei160287@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands

Hey Robbie!
             I was a big fan of the Slickees too! They  covered  "Cinderella"
even before The Lyres and The Fuzztones, and alot of other cool toons as well.
The reason no one talks about them here is probably (my assumption only)
'cause they dressed up (the popular notion here seems to be that bands that
dress up can't play real rock & roll), and that they (like Tina Peel) were not
solely derivative (ie; "authentic") so therefore not "garage"...they'd
probably be labeled "new wave".
Ari

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:37:10 -0500
From: Evan Davies <edavies@cdnow.com>
Subject: RE: some kill for records

>Er, yes, I hate to admit it, but I would like to read about this. Where can
>I? What NY papers is it in? 

Here's the article from the NY Times (which, on closer inspection, does mention the sinister [sorry, lefties] events leading up to the collection's auction): <http://www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/artleisure/vinyl-records-antiques.html>

You can see the catalog (without illustrations) online at <http://www.doylegalleries.com/catalogues/990216.html>

The other article I saw was a week or two ago in the "Collectibles" column of a New Jersey paper.  I can't get to their site right now, and I don't even know if the article would be there, but if you want to try to search for it you can look on <http://www.injersey.com>.

Happy reading...

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:43:31 +0100
From: MC BIGOT <jerk@club-internet.fr>
Subject: Hot & New From Paris!

I just got three records released last week on parisian labels.
2 new seven inch on Royal: the Kirks from New England(make me think of
Teengenerate on their most brutal & lofi days) and Crash Normal from
Eastern France (noise punk experiment, like Jon Spencer with a crazy
montage a la Mothers Of Invention).
But my fave one is Swinging Mademoiselle, a sampler a la Ultra Chicks
but on vinyl. 16 cuts (only 3 on the UC cds), all great if you dig those
pop ladies. It's mostly original songs (2 covers, the beau Brummels'
Just A Little & Sloop John B). The sleeve is awesome & the sound great!

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:52:42 -0500 (EST)
From: Blair Buscareno <blairb1@idt.net>
Subject: Re:  Late 70s-Early 80s Garage Bands

I dunno, my guess as to why you don't see the Slickees discussed much is
'cuz either (a) people haven't heard them (remember, The Slickees haven't
done much in the past decade) or (b) people just didn't like them as much.
I fall into the latter camp. I thought they were OK, but they never blew
my mind. Perhaps this is 'cuz I didn't see them play. But the records I
heard by them over time didn't excite me as much as those by other bands
I've mentioned.

As to your comment about people not liking them because they weren't
solely derivative, well... of course, that's an individual's prerogative.
I'll speak only for myself, though - I decide who I like on an individual
basis: does the group move me? If not, then I don't buy their records/go
see them.

There have been plenty of groups that I've liked that people wouldn't
consider garage (especially at this point in time); conversely, there have
been many "garage" groups that I've found wanting (be they "derivative" or
not.)

Blair

 On Tue, 16 Feb 1999
ARei160287@aol.com wrote:

> 
> Hey Robbie!
>              I was a big fan of the Slickees too! They  covered  "Cinderella"
> even before The Lyres and The Fuzztones, and alot of other cool toons as well.
> The reason no one talks about them here is probably (my assumption only)
> 'cause they dressed up (the popular notion here seems to be that bands that
> dress up can't play real rock & roll), and that they (like Tina Peel) were not
> solely derivative (ie; "authentic") so therefore not "garage"...they'd
> probably be labeled "new wave".
> Ari
> 

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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 19:21:23 +0000
From: boldface@easynet.co.uk
Subject: Re: Smurfs

He's tried to keep it quiet, but...Mojo has admitted to me that he DOES own
a copy of the Father Abraham & the Smurfs record.

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