From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V99 #86 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@interport.net bomp-digest Wednesday, February 24 1999 Volume 99 : Number 086 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records mighty65@pacbell.net Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records Blair Buscareno Re: Fun/Outrageous Frank Uhle Re: Freaky 60s/70s books wanted DEACON ALLEY Re: Freaky 60s/70s books wanted Glynis & Richard Ward Re: The flip to Beg, Borrow and Steal dcoyle@bright.net (David J. Coyle) Re: crazy antics... dcoyle@bright.net (David J. Coyle) makers page troubles. "Kyle Christians" Big Muff Fuzz "Kyle Christians" Re: The flip to Beg, Borrow and Steal Brian Phillips Re: makers page troubles. Glynis & Richard Ward Re: makers page troubles. SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: makers page troubles. GLACK Re: makers page troubles. Blair Buscareno Psych-Out! 2/21/99 Jeffery Hess Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records "Bill Holmes" Re: makers page troubles. "Bill Holmes" Re: Freaky 60s/70s books wanted Beats76@aol.com Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records Rocky Serkowney Re: Turn-Offs Crusher050@aol.com Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records Waldo P Emerson Jones Re: The Sonics-"Pushin" 960300331 Slitty Antics ARei160287@aol.com Re: makers page troubles. Glynis & Richard Ward ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 02:20:14 -0800 (PST) From: mighty65@pacbell.net Subject: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records Cannot recall this guys' last name, exactly. It was something like "Shurbotnick" ...some dweeby name like that. The single had a black/white pic sleeve and the two tunes were really kinda primative punk folk sounding. My impression at the time I found it, was that it was 'released' around '78 or '79. It could have pre-dated late 7 T's punk though too. Released on "House Of Guitars" Records, which appeared to be one of those record store/instrument store melds that started dissappearing about then. Seem to recall this guy mentioned occassionally in Trouser Press back then. What was the story on this guy ? Any takers here ? Paul Moshay Toluca Lake, Calif. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 07:40:47 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records On Tue, 23 Feb 1999 mighty65@pacbell.net wrote: > > > Cannot recall this guys' last name, exactly. It was > something like "Shurbotnick" ...some dweeby name > like that. The single had a black/white pic sleeve and the two > tunes were really kinda primative punk folk sounding. Armand Schoebrock. Not sure which record you've got, but I think Armand recorded a bunch of stuff in the 60s. If Bill Holmes is on this list, I'm sure he can give us more than I can. Anyway, Armand started The House of Guitars in Rochester, NY (well, actually I think it might be Irondequoit... whatever, it's up by Lake Ontario in the Rochester suburbs). The place is absolutely HUGE. The bottom floor is a record store (and a real *mess* last time I was there. Records in piles all over the place.) But the upper floors are more instrument stuff. Both Greg Prevost & Andy Babiuk of the C. Kings work there. A few years ago, I was up visiting my cousins and decided to stop by while I was there. I ran into Andy who asked me to hold on a minute so we could talk; he just had to finish some business first - selling about $30,000 worth of guitars to some French buyers who were in town. The HoG used to have some great commercials (anyone know if that's still true?) I believe the HoG was also behind Mirror Records, the label the C. Kings were on for a long time. Perhaps Victor T. can tell us more if he's still on the list, since he used to roadie for the band. Armand also was known in Rochester during the 60s (from what I remember reading) for putting a picture of himself (long hair and all) on a billboard with the message "Let It Grow!" You may also want to check out the Armand Schoebrock Steals LP. Not sure if it's this one or another, but there's a track (all listed simply as Band 1, Band 2, etc., no song names) where all you hear is a guy (Armand) in the confessional or something telling about ripping off the church's poor box. Blair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 10:01:19 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Uhle Subject: Re: Fun/Outrageous 1) Question Mark, in 1987, playing at a frat house here in Ann Arbor (not with the original band, but with some well-trained other guys). Nobody in the place but a friend and I knew any of the songs other than 96 Tears, but the crowd was absolutely jumping to the music. They set up in a large living room of this ancient huge frat house, & it was packed tight with well-lubed bodies. About half way through "Got To," Question Mark kicked his floor monitors aside and began to crawl on hands and knees out into the dancers, screaming "Got to, Got to Find Her!!!" over and over. Eventually he got back to the stage area, but that minute or so was too much grooviosity for me to bear (esp. given the Frat house surroundings, and it being the first time I had seen the man). 2) Mr. Outrageous himself (the title of his '69 lp), Kim Fowley played in Detroit a couple years back, and he kept goading the audience into coming onstage and doing weird stuff... some very exhibitionistic women with leather outfits and Betty Page haircuts were doing this fake lesbian s/m sex act, then later the lead singer of the Detroit Cobras (drunk and obnoxious as always) climbed onstage with them to do this threesome deal, when she suddenly leapt for Kim, grabbing him around the neck and trying to strangle him (apparently seriously). They struggled for a long minute, then both fell down, and suddenly some bouncers jumped on and pulled her off... Kim grabbed the mic to say "goodnight" and ran for the dressing room. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 11:48:29 -0500 (EST) From: DEACON ALLEY Subject: Re: Freaky 60s/70s books wanted Ed Sanders also wrote "Tales of Beatnik Glory," an excellent novel that's really more of a parody than a homage to the whole Beat era. And as I recall, it takes place mainly in the mid-to-late '60s, way past the Beats' true sell-by date. Deena ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:36:04 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: Freaky 60s/70s books wanted I'd suggest (along with what has already been mentioned), The Clown by Heinrich Boll's. It's a very, very strange book written in 1963 - originally in German. And easier ones to find include the not so weird, but freaky for the times Too Far To Walk by John Hersey and Jamey by Edwin Gilbert which are both easy to read - very American coming of age 1967-68 books. Easy to find in thrift stores. I'd also suggest anything by Laurence Ferlinghetti. Glynis Ward http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy Feline Frenzy Teen 'Zine Scene http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy/canadian.html Canadian 60's Garage Band Page ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:34:43 -0500 (EST) From: dcoyle@bright.net (David J. Coyle) Subject: Re: The flip to Beg, Borrow and Steal >Jeri's Theme. So this is the flip to the original Attack single? I know the flip on the Cameo Ohio Express version is "Maybe," an instrumental actually by Joe Walsh's group the Measles. I just found a copy of the "Beg, Borrow, And Steal" album by the Ohio Express yesterday for 5 bucks. It's _great_ stuff, not bubblegum by a long shot! This one would be worthy of reissue, if it weren't for Allen Klein owning the Cameo catalog... Dave || "Every new beginning comes from another beginning's end..." || || David J. Coyle // E-Mail: dcoyle@bright.net || || Chillicothe, OH // Pursuer of various trivial pursuits || ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:34:35 -0500 (EST) From: dcoyle@bright.net (David J. Coyle) Subject: Re: crazy antics... >i saw something on banana truffle about another go nuts show a while back. >evidently they set off some kind of powdered sugar bomb at the end of their >set that turned the entire club powder white. the funniest thing was the >guy describing the "white mushroom cloud" coming from the club doors as he >was walking up the street... Were they doing "Falling Sugar" by the Palace Guard at the time? :) Dave || "Every new beginning comes from another beginning's end..." || || David J. Coyle // E-Mail: dcoyle@bright.net || || Chillicothe, OH // Pursuer of various trivial pursuits || ====================================================================== ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:33:20 -0600 From: "Kyle Christians" Subject: makers page troubles. Geocities is really wierd in the way that it shuts down web browsers for no apparent reason. Whenever my friend looks at any geocities site, it freezes up his browser, and he has to restart his computer. I really don't know what to tell you about it, besides keep trying and hope for the best. There's nothing I can do about it as far as writing code or anything to stop it. If you have another browser, I'd try using that. Sorry for all of the problems, though. Try looking at other geocities sites, and see if it does the same thing. Thanks for the patience. Kyle Christians http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Plaza/6787/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 12:35:49 -0600 From: "Kyle Christians" Subject: Big Muff Fuzz I really like the Big Muff's on a bass...that sound really good. For guitar, I agree that there are alot of better pedals out there, but for the money, you almost can't go wrong. Where can you find a British Buzz pedal? I've never heard of that one, and would like to try it out. Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 13:50:08 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: The flip to Beg, Borrow and Steal >>Jeri's Theme. > >So this is the flip to the original Attack single? Yes. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:06:55 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: makers page troubles. Try looking at other geocities sites, and see if it does >the same thing. Thanks for the patience. This is happening with all kinds of Geocities sites. It mainly happens when you try and close the "ad" pop-up. It has also been happening to me when I try and exit one of their pages. When I first go on line this wasn't a problem. Many other folks I know with sites there have left because nobody has been able to access and read their pages. They are creating HTML for their own sites, but the Geocities organization is inserting various prompts somewhere within the "accessories" that they require accompany your page (like the pop-ups) that are creating the problem. Glynis Ward http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy Feline Frenzy Teen 'Zine Scene http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy/canadian.html Canadian 60's Garage Band Page ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 14:26:13 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: makers page troubles. In a message dated 2/23/99 1:37:56 PM EST, kchrist1@siu.edu writes: << does >> how about you say goodbye to geoshitties? those guys are assholes anyway! haha Evan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:07:45 -0400 From: GLACK Subject: Re: makers page troubles. I've got a website on geocities, but nobody has ever informed me of any problems opening 'my' page. If anyone would care to try it, I'd like to know if mine is also causing crashes. Thanks! http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/underground/9053 - -glack ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 15:30:48 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: makers page troubles. Didn't have any problem with yours on this end, Glack. By the way, I've always liked the cover on Bad Music For Bad People. And the one for the OAC 45 (One Wish Too Many) is another cool one. Blair PS I have noticed other Geocities problems. Someone else recently posted the URL for their webzine (a Geocities address) and I had tons of problems with it, going through various browsers (Netscape, Cyberdog, and iCab) on both Mac & PC. Maybe it's an intermittent thing. On Tue, 23 Feb 1999, GLACK wrote: > > I've got a website on geocities, but nobody has ever informed me of any > problems opening 'my' page. If anyone would care to try it, I'd like to > know if mine is also causing crashes. > > Thanks! > > http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/underground/9053 > > -glack > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 16:11:55 -0600 From: Jeffery Hess Subject: Psych-Out! 2/21/99 Joined again by the Nowhere Man, who successfully managed to creep-out Kopper and Jaimz for a second time. He brought a lot of cool shit though, a H.P. Lovecraft Ban Roll-On commericial, a brief Roky Erickson interview and a real flypped out early J.D. Blackfoot single. The Move-Night Of Fear (Collection/Castle Communications) The Pretty Things-Old Man Going (S. F. Sorrow/Snapper Original Masters) Cykle-Lesson To Learn (Cykle Featuring: The Young Ones/Gearfab) Love-Stephanie Knows Who (Forever Changes/Elektra) The Leaves-War Of Distortion (Hey Joe/Mira) The Denims-Painted Ship (V/A Pebbles Vol. 7/BFD) Leo & The Profits-Tilt-A-Whirl (V/A Pebbles Vol. 3/ESD) Sunday Funnies-A Pindaric Ode (Pebbles Vol. 7/BFD) The Seeds-Bad Part Of Town (V/A Pebbles Vol. 3/ESD) H.P. Lovecraft-Ban Roll-On (Oh Yeah Best Of Dunwich/Dunwich) May Blitz-Smokin The Day Away (May Blitz/Paramount) Groundhogs-Split 2&3 (Split/Track) J. D. Blackfoot-Epitaph For A Head (7"/Mercury) Roky Erickson-Tom Donahue Interview 1978 13th Floor Elevators-She Lives (Easter Everywhere/Collectibles) Maxx-200 Years (Ultra Rare Psych/Amphetamine Stronghold) The Electric Prunes-Vox Commercial The Electric Prunes-Hideaway (Underground/Reprise) July-Dandelion Seeds (July/Epic) Plastic Cloud-You Don't Care (Ultra-Rare Psych/Amphetamine Stronghold) Vox Wah-Wah Commercial Jefferson Airplane-Levi's Jeans Jefferson Airplane-Plastic Fantastic Lover (2400 Fulton St./RCA) Slick/Zappa-Ribumbabapdumdum (Box Set/RCA) Slick/Zappa-Would You Like A Snack? (Box Set/RCA) Frank Zappa-Anti Drug Ad Smoke-My Friend Jack (V/A Chocolate Soup For Diabetics) Chocolate Watchband-Dark Side Of The Mushroom (No Way Out/Tower) Anti-Drug Ad-Responsibility Dick Clark-Jiffy Pop Popcorn Crazy Elephant-Dark Part Of My Mind (7"/Bell) Report: The Canyon People-(Highs Vol. 3 LA 67) Spirit-Topanga Windows (Time Circle/Epic) SRC-Marionette (SRC/Capitol) SRC-Exile (SRC/Capitol) Indian Puddin' & Pipe-Hashish (Ultra-Rare Psych/Amphetimine Stronghold) The Pink Floyd-It Would Be So Nice (Masters Of Rock Vol. 1/Harvest) The Rolling Stones-2000 Man (Their Satanic Majesties Request/London) The Edge-Seen Through The Eyes (Pebbles Vol. 7/BFD) Tales Of Justine-Aurora (Pedals From A Sunflower/Tenth Planet) Amon Duul II-Deutsch Nepal (Best Of 69-74/Purple Pyramid) The Freak Scene-Behind The Mind (Psychedelic Psoul/Columbia) Strawberry Alarm Clock-This Worlds's On Fire (Anthology/One Way) The Blues Magoos-Albert Common Is Dead (Kaleidescopic Compendium/ Mercury) C.A. Quintet-Blow My Soul (V/A Endless Journey/Psycho) Alemendra-Trema De Pototo (V/A Love, Peace, & Poetry-Latin Psychedelic Music/QDK Media) The Oxford Circle-Foolish Woman (V/A Endless Journey/Psycho) The Pleasure Garden-Permissive Paradise (V/A Syde Tryps Vol. 1/no label) Giorgio's & Marcos Men-Baby I Need You (V/A Syde Tryps Vol. 1/no label) Whispers Of Truth-Sunday Afternoon With Emily (V/A Syde Tryps Vol. 1/ no label) **************************************************************************************** Psych-Out! Oh, what beautiful things he sees KDHX FM 88.1 Sunday mornings 3-6 AM (CST) Immediately following The Wayback Machine www.kdhx.org ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:54:31 -0500 From: "Bill Holmes" Subject: Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records Mirror Records, bad commercials, CK releases, what Blair said is all true. Plus... (1) The House of Guitars (officially Irondequoit) still does mondo bizarro commercials. I love the one where they offer their "four locations"...and then have shots of the four sides of the building! (2) It's mostly CDs now, still an incredible mess, and you can always hear the unmistakeable sound of vinyl SNAPPING as people misjudge their stride and step on some albums...some of which are so old the shrinkwra has the consistency of wax paper (3) Armand used to run for Mayor every election. Now that Jesse V is governor, he might run again (4) I don't think there is a tshirt, record, video, instrument or cd in existence that is NOT somewhere inside the building. The problem is finding it. Greg was one of the first people I met when I moved to Rochester. He didn't know my name, but when he found out I was a Kinks fan, that was it - he was always going out of his way to stick some good stuff aside for when I'd come in the store. Probably still doesn't know my name. B ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:36:05 -0500 From: "Bill Holmes" Subject: Re: makers page troubles. I've had a Geopage for almost four years with few problems. There was one recently where a script error kept occurring because they screwed up some code for that floating "G"...I have the cut and paste text you need to add to a Geopage if you have that problem and need to get rid of it. The popup? Just close it. You don't even have to wait for it to fully load. I use Explorer 4.0 now, was using versions of 2+ and 3+ for most of the past 3-4 years. I can access through work (Netscape) without problem though. Did so today. I also clicked on The Makers page and a couple of others that were mentioned here and had no problems. So something's up, but the pages ARE functional! I write all my own page code and have never had that cause a problem. I also have gotten a lot of email from people who have stopped by for trades and don't remember anyone having a crash. But if anyone wants to try and land and let me know of any problems on my page, please do, here's the URL: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/8282/ ***** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:42:17 EST From: Beats76@aol.com Subject: Re: Freaky 60s/70s books wanted I'd suggest "Been Down So Long It Looks Like Up to Me," by Richard Farina, a folk singer from the early 60s (married to Joan Baez's sister Mimi).) I read it in '66 when it was first published (changed MY life...). It's been re- issued and you can get it through Amazon.com. Tells the story of Gnossos Pappadopoulis returning to his old university town where the culture is rapidly changing (allegedly Cornell University where Farina attended with Thomas Pyncheon). It's slightly post-beat but pre-hippy: they soak cigarettes in paragoric to get high and take mescaline. The tragic note to this is that two days after this book was published, Richard Farina was killed in a motorcycle accident (he was going about 90 on a canyon road!) after attending the release party. Lynn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:19:51 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records At 06:54 PM 2/23/99 -0500, you wrote: > >Mirror Records, bad commercials, CK releases, what Blair said is all true. >Plus... > >(1) The House of Guitars (officially Irondequoit) still does mondo bizarro >commercials. I love the one where they offer their "four locations"...and >then have shots of the four sides of the building! wOW, OUR fOX AFFILIATE ON CABLE UP HERE IN tHUNDER bAY, oNTARIO IS FROM rOCHESTER AND i'M SURE i'VE DUG SOME OF THESE COMMERCIALS. uNEXPECTED COOLNESS STRIKES AGAIN IN THE TINY CABLE UNIVERSE! rOCKY. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 18:58:02 EST From: Crusher050@aol.com Subject: Re: Turn-Offs In a message dated 99-02-23 06:48:44 EST, you write: << I've never heard of them, although if they are more in the 70's punk mode (there are a lot of them) I probably over looked the name. What did they sound like? Tony >> Hi Tony. I guess if I had to describe them, I would say a cross between The Raincoats and Sleater-Kinney, and maybe a little Slits. It is hard to say, they were kinda unique. In one or two songs, the singer played timbales- it was so cool! - - Jonathan (crusher050@aol.com The Crusher: 6-7 AM, WED, 91.5 FM, WMFO, Medford) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 19:08:20 -0800 From: Waldo P Emerson Jones Subject: Re: Armand S... on "House Of Guitars" Records Armand Schoebrock is great! I have one 7" and an old friend had a few LPs.I think he had a triple live one called "Came to Visit BUt Decided to Stay". He did run Mirror Records,cuz my friend used to write him. His records were always called Armand Schoebrock Steals; named after some theft charged he got in trouble for. I think the story was that he stole some money and they made an example of him. He got a pretty rough charge for petty theft. One other bit of trivial bullshit...One of the before commercial shots on David Letterman years ago was a shot from inside House of Guitars. Did anyone see Jonathan Richman do "Something About Mary" on Penn & Teller's show last night??Penn said they had seen Jonathan 7 times seperately and 11 times together! Jason ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:30:25 +0800 (CST) From: 960300331 Subject: Re: The Sonics-"Pushin" Hey, where can I hear The Sonics version of Sky Saxon's "Pushin Too Hard"? Is it readily available on any reisssue? - -Squeaky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 22:03:13 EST From: ARei160287@aol.com Subject: Slitty Antics I just thought of a couple more "outrageous stage antics" I've witnessed over the years. I saw The Slits at Hurrah (NYC) in the late 70's. Ari Up was evidently haing a visit from her monthly "friend". Since she was wearing a skirt, it was pretty obvious to all, as she nonchalantly let it leak down her leg. On a similar note, I saw Lydia Lunch bring a used tampon to a Dead Boys show at CBGB, and presented this "gift" to Stiv while he was onstage. He, of course, utilized the clever stage prop. Luckily for all of you, I'm just squeamish enough to spare you the details. Of course the Dead Boys have had lots of "outrageous antics"-How about Stiv actually hanging himself at the end of almost every show? Once I saw him do this, and he couldn't get down in time. Michael Sticca, the Dead Boys roadie, rushed to his aide, and got him down within seconds before he killed himself. Hey! If someone collected all these "outrageous antics" stories, they could probably get some publisher to release them as a book! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 23 Feb 1999 23:32:18 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: makers page troubles. >The popup? Just close it. You don't even have to wait for it to fully load. Close the pop up for most people's pages and it sends you into a system crash or locks up Explorer. I have a great computer with up to date Explorer and all, and it still has problems. I don't find as many problems with older Geocities sites, mainly newer ones. Glynis Ward http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy Feline Frenzy Teen 'Zine Scene http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy/canadian.html Canadian 60's Garage Band Page ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V99 #86 ************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com