From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V99 #98 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@interport.net bomp-digest Thursday, March 4 1999 Volume 99 : Number 098 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: Re: best 99 LP for now.... "The Thing" Introducing the new kraut "jens" Re: The Nerves shepherd Re: The Nerves "Bill Holmes" Re: The Nerves Blair Buscareno Real Kids & more... Sylvain Malpractice Glynis Rmerchandz@aol.com Re: Introducing the new kraut Brian Phillips Re: Incidentally: Glynis & Richard Ward Re: Incidentally: Glynis & Richard Ward Re: Real Kids & more... Brian Phillips Re: Real Kids & more... Blair Buscareno Re: Racist comps boldface@easynet.co.uk Re: Lulus Marble boldface@easynet.co.uk Re: Racist comps Glynis & Richard Ward Re: Incidentally: Brian Phillips Re: Incidentally: Glynis & Richard Ward Re: Sad news Hitomi I Re: Legend of Paul Revere Richard Ward Re: dusty "modllevine" Crank YOUR Spreaders, buddy Brian Phillips Re: Introducing the new kraut "jens" Re: Lulus Marble Hitomi I RE: el doctor de amor's announcement "Wojciechowski, Bob" Re: The Legend of Bobby Beaton "mimi la twisteuse" Re: best 99 LP for now.... "jens" Re: Crank YOUR Spreaders, buddy TSanc43763@aol.com more comp talk "mike sinocchi" HEY, NY! laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com Re: Real Kids & more... Blair Buscareno Re: Crank YOUR Spreaders, buddy Richard Ward Hey, NY! laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com new 60s comps Sylvain Re: Re: Racist comps ARei160287@aol.com Re: Incidentally danman76@juno.com Re: more comp talk Blair Buscareno DERAM Scene CDs "Kereakos, Andrew R." For my Bompz Brian Phillips ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:56:50 +0200 From: "The Thing" Subject: Re: best 99 LP for now.... Yeah, the new Monsters is very good, agree about the new Spaceshits too, this baby "Misbehavin" is a real classic already, but check out the new Plungers LP called "Lets Get Twisted With The Plungers" which is coming out this month, its a RNR blast! olley, Demetrius "Bacon Greeze" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:13:12 +0000 From: "jens" Subject: Introducing the new kraut Brian Phillips wrote: >... and just as Germans love David Hasselhoff... and > ...I wouldn't call any German a Kraut... Hi gang, just to clear a few things from the beginning: nobody over here cares being called a 'Kraut', but me and everyone else will be highly offended if you say we're David Hasselhoff fans =o) Honest, this 'Hasselhoff is a superstar in Germany'-thing is a urban legend that a lot of Americans take for granted. This is my first post to the list, allow me to introduce myself: I'm Jens from Stuttgart, Germany (as you've probably already realized), well, in general I'd say I listen to all kinds of Rock'n'Roll, my favourites (at the moment!) are british garage-trash bands of the 80's like the Prisoners, Stingrays, Delmonas,..., but it's said that I'll show up everywhere if there's a microphone stand and a drumkit on a stage. I put up smaller gigs in my area sometimes and try to enlighten the masses with my DJing every now and then. Oh, and I wanna definitely go to Vegas on halloween. Thanx for listening. Laterz ...jens... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 06:31:54 -0600 From: shepherd Subject: Re: The Nerves frank b brandon III wrote: > > i dunno---i thought peter case was on yet another plimsouls revival (record > on fuel 2000 last year)---in between solo stuff and god---haven't heard > anything from paul collins other than various paul collins' beat stuff over > the years---and i forget who the third guy was... Jack Lee. Seeya, Kip ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:22:17 -0500 From: "Bill Holmes" Subject: Re: The Nerves The Nerves were Peter Case, Jack Lee (who wrote "HOTT") and Paul Collins - sort of a pop supergroup. Both Collins and Case, to this day, will tell you Lee was the best songwriter among the three. I dunno what the statute of limitations is on using a band name, but I remember buying a White Trash record a few years ago thinking that I missed one of Edgar Winter's records the first time through, and got pedestrian thud rock instead. Felt like *I* wanted to sue the little bastards myself! :) B ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 07:44:42 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: The Nerves On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Bill Holmes wrote: > > The Nerves were Peter Case, Jack Lee (who wrote "HOTT") and Paul Collins - > sort of a pop supergroup. Both Collins and Case, to this day, will tell you > Lee was the best songwriter among the three. He certainly wrote some good ones. That disc that came out in the early 90s (Perfect Pop or some such name) on Revenge (I think) was excellent. It had The Nerves, some early Plimsouls, and a whole bunch of Jack Lee, including a favorite of mine, "Gonna Have Fun" (covered live by the Full Time Men for quite some time). Unfortunately, a friend of mine said Lee was a disappointment on a French tour some years ago. Blair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:46:43 +0100 From: Sylvain Subject: Real Kids & more... Since we're talking of early power pop'n'roll with the Nerves, think that some of you here will be able to help with another band of the same period... Well, I'm looking for a complete Real Kids / Taxi Boys discography, or more generally, a complete listing of john Felice's material... the last thing I heard from him was a solo LP, issued around 1988... what has he done since the past 10 years ? Any infos welcome. sylvain / Switzerland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:29:31 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Malpractice Glynis << A character guilty of medical malpractice on tonight's "Law and Order" was named Glynis Ward. I did a small doubletake.... just so you know. Have a nice day. >> Glynis - you lied to me... I didn't need a new spleen, did I? ouch, Baskerville Rob ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:43:20 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: Introducing the new kraut >>... and just as Germans love David Hasselhoff... >and >> ...I wouldn't call any German a Kraut... > >Hi gang, >just to clear a few things from the beginning: nobody over >here cares being called a 'Kraut', but me and everyone else will >be highly offended if you say we're David Hasselhoff fans =o) >Honest, this 'Hasselhoff is a superstar in Germany'-thing is a >urban legend that a lot of Americans take for granted. Hee! I didn't know that. I was making a cheap gag (it was a running joke on Saturday Night Live). I didn't think that folks would take Norm MacDonald seriously. I am curious about one thing, does the sentence mean "Nobody over here cares FOR being called a 'Kraut'" or "Nobody over here cares if they are being called a 'Kraut'"? Brian "Um..a Lout?" Phillips ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:52:19 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: Incidentally: At 02:50 AM 3/4/99 EST, you wrote: > >A character guilty of medical malpractice on tonight's "Law and Order" was >named Glynis Ward. I did a small doubletake.... just so you know. Have a >nice day. OK, that's kinda freaky!!! What are the chances? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:54:10 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: Incidentally: >>A character guilty of medical malpractice on tonight's "Law and Order" was >>named Glynis Ward. I did a small doubletake.... just so you know. Have a >>nice day. Hey, it's Erin who's the doctor lady!!! Glynis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:48:41 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: Real Kids & more... At 01:46 PM 3/4/99 +0100, Sylvain wrote (in part): >Well, I'm looking for a complete Real Kids / Taxi Boys discography, >or more generally, a complete listing of john Felice's material... http://www.trouserpress.com/bandpages/REAL_KIDS.html is certainly not complete, but it is a start. According to the questionable All Music site, he was on The Turban Renewal album and Jonathan Richman's "Precise Modern Lovers Order" ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 08:47:15 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: Real Kids & more... On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Sylvain wrote: > Since we're talking of early power pop'n'roll with the Nerves, > think that some of you here will be able to help with another > band of the same period... > Well, I'm looking for a complete Real Kids / Taxi Boys discography, > or more generally, a complete listing of john Felice's material... > the last thing I heard from him was a solo LP, issued around > 1988... what has he done since the past 10 years ? Any infos > welcome. From the Trouser Press site (http://www.trouserpress.com) Real Kids Red Star Norton 1978 1991 Outta Place Star-Rhythm 1982 All Kindsa Jerks Live French New Rose 1983 Hit You Hard French New Rose 1983 TAXI BOYS Taxi Boys EP Star-Rhythm 1981 Taxi Boys EP Bomp! 1981 REAL KIDS/TAXI BOYS Girls! Girls! Girls! French Lolita 1983 PRIMITIVE SOULS Primitive Souls EP Australian Grown Up Wrong! 1987 JOHN FELICE & THE LOWDOWNS Nothing Pretty Ace of Hearts, 1988 - --- Of course, this doesn't list the 45s (like "All Kindsa Girls") or the stuff on the Live at the Rat LP. Nor does it include the live disc on Norton, or any of the singles that were released from that in the 90s. John did record a record with his band, The Devotions, a couple years back (I think Steve Wynn produced), but I don't believe it's been released. When I talked to John at the Real Kids' shows in September, he said they might record a new record this year. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Blair (Sorry so incomplete, but... it's a start.) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:47:22 +0000 From: boldface@easynet.co.uk Subject: Re: Racist comps >Still don't like either name, but you're also dealing with a guy that >doesn't dig the language or artwork on the BFTG's and I have bought those. Have to agree with Brian here. The greatness of the sounds overcomes my qualms about the artwork and sleeve notes on the BFTGs. As this thread was about racism it has to be said that I don't believe Tim Warren to be racist at all (as if his homophobia isn't bad enough - I do think he must have some sort of psychological problem there), though he is somewhat intolerant of those who don't conform to his way of thinking - but then that's how racism can start. As for being "PC", I think the term works against what it really means - that is: having consideration and respect for other people no matter what their differences are. (There are some exceptions though - I have absolutely no respect for anyone who listens to the Spice Girls...) - - PJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:48:04 +0000 From: boldface@easynet.co.uk Subject: Re: Lulus Marble >Someone mentioned the singer of Lulu's Marbles dying with the Dusty >Springfield post? Is this true? Tony I heard this from the folks at Mademoiselle Records who had a message left on their telephone answering machine from one of the other members of the group. Obviously they are all very upset about it and so I haven't asked for any further details. Lulus Marble played in London several times and they were great fun to have as guests at the Dirty Water Club. They were all so pleased that I managed to persuade Billy Childish to have them as support to Thee Headcoats (he normally would never have a support band that he doesn't know) and Billy himself ended up smiling broadly throughout their show (another rare event). She was very sweet, always cheerful, modest and self-effacing - and able to charm the pants off any man in the room. It's very sad to think that we won't be seeing her again... - - PJ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:59:58 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: Racist comps Paul: (There are some exceptions though - I have absolutely no respect for anyone who listens to the Spice Girls...) What about people who watch the Spice Girls movie....LISA.............. Glynis Ward http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy Feline Frenzy Teen 'Zine Scene http://www.mindspring.com/~felinefrenzy/canadian.html Canadian 60's Garage Band Page ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:55:10 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: Incidentally: In 1972, I found out that I was white, Canadian and swimming against Mark Spitz in the Olympics. I lost. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:03:31 -0500 From: Glynis & Richard Ward Subject: Re: Incidentally: >In 1972, I found out that I was white, Canadian and swimming against Mark >Spitz in the Olympics. I lost. I'm sorry Brian, but you know, Mark Spitz was really good. Didn't he set a record in that race? ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 20:34:32 +0900 From: Hitomi I Subject: Re: Sad news The Singer Akko died on 24 Feb by unfortune accident. Scott Gardner wrote: > > >Also, I've just heard that the singer with all-girl Japanese garage band > >Lulu's Marble has died. (Their recordings of Jack The Lipper c/w Loadlunner > >was released last year on Mademoiselle Records.) No other details are known > >yet. > > What a shame. A friend of mine picked up one of their LPs when he was in > Japan. It is simply amazing. I have tried without luck to find any of their > releases (except for the Mademoiselle single) here in the States. > > Scott - -- *************** Hitomi I************************ Trans World '60s Punk:Cutie Morning Moon http://www.kiwi-us.com/~hitomi/ Join '60s garage Paradise(BBS)English Only http://cgi.kiwi.ne.jp/~hitomi/chat/gb_s.cgi Download '60s Garage Comps Database:Searchin' For Shakes http://www.kiwi-us.com/~hitomi/searchin.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 06:32:29 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Ward Subject: Re: Legend of Paul Revere What the heck are you talkin' about?? Given that it can be an uphill battle to hip folks to the Raiders, once you get them to actually listen to the 65-67 era stuff, and then play them the Gardena stuff - they usually flip for it! Now if I can just get someone to listen to those early Association records.... Never, my love. > "Like, Long Hair" isn't exactly something that would appeal to garage-band > fans. As I'm sure some know on this list, long hair has nothing to do with > the current hair fashions (it wasn't an issue in pre-Beatlemania America), _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:37:23 -0000 From: "modllevine" Subject: Re: dusty This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BE6622.9BA5AD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree with your appraisal of dusty Springfield soul and talent, and of = course dusty in Memphis is a great LP, too. I think she did a lot of = great stuff in the 60's with a good interpreter talent too, for ballads = with her doing the definite versions of many songs too.will be missed -----Original Message----- From: frank b brandon III To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Wednesday, March 03, 1999 6:15 PM Subject: dusty =20 =20 i think we missed dusty when talking about white soul a while back, = but disty in memphis was just reissued and it is one of the best records = from the sixties---not garage but filled with soul---txhis was to be = dusty's year too - ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BE6622.9BA5AD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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- ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01BE6622.9BA5AD00-- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:41:56 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Crank YOUR Spreaders, buddy >Now if I can just get someone to listen to those early Association >records.... > >Never, my love. I found one of their earliest records on Vault for a quarter and while I feel I paid the right price for it, it actually is not that bad. For those wondering about the subject line, sans the buddy, that was the name of the book that the Association wrote. I found it at a Pic 'n' Save for 49 cents and lost it, so all I remember is the title. Brian "Who has a song parody to thank the Association for" Phillips ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:41:26 +0000 From: "jens" Subject: Re: Introducing the new kraut > I am curious about one thing, does the sentence mean > "Nobody over here cares FOR being called a 'Kraut'" or "Nobody over here > cares if they are being called a 'Kraut'"? > > Brian "Um..a Lout?" Phillips It means if you tell me "you're a Kraut!", I'll reply "I don't care!" Laterz ...jens... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 23:45:43 +0900 From: Hitomi I Subject: Re: Lulus Marble I know a guy who released their CD in Japan. So if someone want to send message to her rep. I'll pass it . boldface@easynet.co.uk wrote: > > >Someone mentioned the singer of Lulu's Marbles dying with the Dusty > >Springfield post? Is this true? Tony > > I heard this from the folks at Mademoiselle Records who had a message left > on their telephone answering machine from one of the other members of the > group. Obviously they are all very upset about it and so I haven't asked > for any further details. Lulus Marble played in London several times and > they were great fun to have as guests at the Dirty Water Club. They were > all so pleased that I managed to persuade Billy Childish to have them as > support to Thee Headcoats (he normally would never have a support band that > he doesn't know) and Billy himself ended up smiling broadly throughout > their show (another rare event). She was very sweet, always cheerful, > modest and self-effacing - and able to charm the pants off any man in the > room. It's very sad to think that we won't be seeing her again... > > - PJ - -- *************** Hitomi I************************ Trans World '60s Punk:Cutie Morning Moon http://www.kiwi-us.com/~hitomi/ Join '60s garage Paradise(BBS)English Only http://cgi.kiwi.ne.jp/~hitomi/chat/gb_s.cgi Download '60s Garage Comps Database:Searchin' For Shakes http://www.kiwi-us.com/~hitomi/searchin.htm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:42:55 -0500 From: "Wojciechowski, Bob" Subject: RE: el doctor de amor's announcement -----sounds like the work of a publicist trying to quell the rumors of dave's "lost weekend" in spain (spanish tour, yeah, right) with manager maury kaye . . .yum! > Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 08:23:23 PST > From: "mike sinocchi" > Subject: insomniac out of the closet > > a formal announcement to all our pals: > > dave woj (the pretty one of the insomniacs' beauty, brains, and brawn > triad) announced his engagement to his long-standing girlfriend, ena, > over the past weekend. the marriage vows are scheduled to be taken > before the end of the millennium (probably sometime in november > 1999...)! > > this may come as quite as a surprise to some because of the insomniacs' > rare displays of outright heterosexuality... ;) > hopefully, the repercussions from the news will not have an adverse > effect on our fan base (all of five of 'em).... > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 07:19:46 PST From: "mimi la twisteuse" Subject: Re: The Legend of Bobby Beaton Miss Morbid Mimi: > >>Don't worry honey, Mr. Beaton has already fallen under my garage spell, since I've made him vow to grow his hair long again and go back to wearing pointy boots! > >Won't the pointy boots interfere with his skanking? Doctor Glynis, Mr. Beaton has fallen under the powerful charms of La Twisteuse, I'm afraid...after hypnotising him with 10 hours of non-stop 60's videos, the man wants to go back to garage. True story. His ska band The Kingpins were nice enough to invite me to their photo shoot 3 months ago, so if anyone of you finds their cd, there's a picture of little Mimi inside! Skank Mimi ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 17:21:07 +0000 From: "jens" Subject: Re: best 99 LP for now.... > don't know if I'm the only one here who have already had it between the hands, > but the new Monsters LP is a total KIIIIIIIILER !!! "Birds Eat Martians", on > Beat Man's own Voodoo Rhythm label is a total 50-60s garage trash mayhem, > and probably the best record they have done til now. I was a bit disappointed after listening to it, I think 'Youth Against Nature' had more different facettes in it, 'Birds Against Martians' sounds more like straight forward garage punk, without looking left or right. But maybe it's one of those records that have to grow on me. > By the way, what 's the best record you happened to listen these last weeks ? Definitely the most played item on my stereo at the moment is the promo-CD of the Defectors from Denmark. They are in the studio at the moment to mix their debut, which should be out in a few months and will definitely be a record to watch out for, if you like stuff like the Gravedigger V etc. Laterz ...jens... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:33:55 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: Crank YOUR Spreaders, buddy In a message dated 3/4/99 9:41:36 AM EST, hagar@mindspring.net writes: << >Never, my love. I found one of their earliest records on Vault for a quarter and while I feel I paid the right price for it, it actually is not that bad. >> yeah, have 2 of their early discs and they're pretty good. I was never a fan, but I must say that Smothers Bros. clip amused me and made me take a second listen to their tunes. I really dig "Pandoras Golden Heebee Geebees". Tony(still drinkin' that San Diego water) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 08:41:03 PST From: "mike sinocchi" Subject: more comp talk >Date: Wed, 03 Mar 1999 16:20:06 -0500 >From: Brian Phillips >Subject: Re: Racist comps >Still don't like either name, but you're also dealing with a guy that >doesn't dig the language or artwork on the BFTG's and I have bought >those. yeah, i can relate to this... i really dig the tunes on the bftg series, and i think the teenage shutdown series totally smokes -- it has upped the ante on sound quality, packaging, supplied info, etc. i own all volumes in each series, respectively. although alotta my bread has ended up in the crypt records' bank account, i always thought the all the artwork/rants on bftg were pretty lame-ass on a ideological level(if taken with poker-face seriousness)and amusing on the bait/provoke/extremism level... it sorta set a trend for a narrow, revisionist history of supposedly what "garage" and "'60s punk" was all about; what's cool; and what you, as a fan, should and should not listen to... it never really made sense to me because words like "garage" and "'60s punk", which were developed by "historians", only hold meaning as retroactive terms.... the greatness of the music speaks for itself, by itself... not because everything that came after it supposedly sucks.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 09:21:48 -0500 From: laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com Subject: HEY, NY! I'm thinking about a NY jaunt in April. This may be a silly question, but are there any cheap, safe, clean hotels in which to stay? You can reply directly to me, the venerable Jane Fondle - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 11:51:49 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: Real Kids & more... On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, Brian Phillips wrote: > According to the questionable All Music site, he was on The Turban Renewal > album and Jonathan Richman's "Precise Modern Lovers Order" Yep, I did forget to mention Felice's involvement on Turban Renewal. If I recall, he did Little Red Riding Hood with Andy Shernoff on bass. He was also the 15 year-old guitar player in the original lineup of hte Modern Lovers, explaining his appearance on Precise Modern Lovers Order (and the other version of the same disc... was the name Live at the Long Branch Saloon?) Blair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 09:26:22 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Ward Subject: Re: Crank YOUR Spreaders, buddy Yes, and you gotta wonder what genius tunes like that and "Along Comes Mary," "Windy", etc woulda sounded like in the hands of Ed Cobb with the Chocolate WatchBand. I say that in reference to a massive interview/article/history of the CWB in the very excellent Cream Puff Wars, where it's mentioned that one time some of the guys were hangin' on the Strip, and some other guys were trying to sell them some songs. The CWB turned them down, and later found out that those guys ended up forming the Association! My other fave tidbit from that is that they used to head down to LA just to shop and hang out on the Strip, and they'd all go out to dinner, and when presented with the check, one of them would say to the waitress in a British accent something like, "Luv, don't you know who we are?" The wait staff would then think they were the Rolling Stones!! Usually, they'd get to eat for free after autographing aprons, napkins, and tableclothes!! Richard - ---TSanc43763@aol.com wrote: I really dig "Pandoras Golden Heebee Geebees". > Tony(still drinkin' that San Diego water) > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 11:25:09 -0500 From: laura.taylor@us.pwcglobal.com Subject: Hey, NY! Laura Taylor 03/04/99 10:32 AM To: cc: Subject: Hey, NY! I've been having e-mail problems, so I hope this isn't a duplicate...but...are there any safe, clean and cheap places to stay in NYC? You can reply directly to the venerable Jane Fondle - ---------------------------------------------------------------- The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 19:05:51 +0100 From: Sylvain Subject: new 60s comps ... talking about comps, what's your point of views about the new bunch of them that came out a few weeks/days ago: - - Searching For Love (US bands from the mid-60s) - - Red With Purple Flashes (60s mod music) - - Return Of The Amphetamine Generation (rare UK freakbeat punk and R&B) - - Bad Vibrations (US 60s punk) - - Untamed & Innocent (CD, mod & beat UK stuff) - - ISSS 11, Crimson Creature in Your Zoo (UK pop psy) anything missing that worth a spin ? Any infos of what's in the pipeline for the forthcoming weeks ? (W. Volkel customers should know...) sylvain / Switzerland ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:16:02 EST From: ARei160287@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Racist comps Is "niggaz" derogatory too? Just wondering.. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 10:34:37 -0800 From: danman76@juno.com Subject: Re: Incidentally >A character guilty of medical malpractice on tonight's "Law and Order" was named Glynis Ward. I did a small doubletake.... just so you know. Have a nice day.< And was she also guilty of stepping on the toes of some highbrowed big wig lawyer to obtain that illusive 60s a-go-go record? Dan ___________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com/getjuno.html or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 13:56:36 -0500 (EST) From: Blair Buscareno Subject: Re: more comp talk On Thu, 4 Mar 1999, mike sinocchi wrote: > although alotta my bread has ended up in the crypt records' bank > account, i always thought the all the artwork/rants on bftg were pretty > lame-ass on a ideological level(if taken with poker-face seriousness)and > amusing on the bait/provoke/extremism level... it sorta set a trend for > a narrow, revisionist history of supposedly what "garage" and "'60s > punk" was all about; what's cool; and what you, as a fan, should and > should not listen to... it never really made sense to me because words > like "garage" and "'60s punk", which were developed by "historians", > only hold meaning as retroactive terms.... > > the greatness of the music speaks for itself, by itself... not because > everything that came after it supposedly sucks.... I'll agree with Mike on just about all of this. However, I'd like to point out that I've never taken the liner notes on BFTG seriously; like Mike said, they're amusing "on the bait/provoke/extremism level." Unfortunately, the narrow-minded viewpoint has been taken all too literally by a newer generation of garage fans. Personally, I think Tim's a good guy; I've known him for a pretty long time. We don't always agree about music, but that's OK, since there's virtually nobody who has my exact tastes in music (nor does that matter to me.) I just wish that some people would get beyond thinking of Tim as some type of god (and, from some things I've read in 'zines and on-line over the past 4-5 years, there definitely is such a faction). It just seems like it's become a party line and people have started using it to define themselves rather than thinking independently. Blair (2 pennies poorer) ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Mar 1999 15:12:49 -0600 From: "Kereakos, Andrew R." Subject: DERAM Scene CDs I have heard rumours that there are second volumes of the DERAM "Scene" CDs coming out. Does anybody know if this is true or better yet, has anybody seen or bought these? I know for sure that there is supposed to be an R&B Scene vol. 2 CD on the way. If anybody has the info on this, please e-mail me back off list. Thanks. Howlin' Andy Hound ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 16:31:12 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: For my Bompz >Is "niggaz" derogatory too? Just wondering.. As much as I was trying to avoid this, it managed to pop up. To quote Charles Barkley, "I am not a role model", nor am I by default the spokesperson for my race, but since I am at the very least, qualified to talk about it, here goes: "Nigger" is without a doubt derogatory. So is "nigra" and "jigaboo". Many a Klansmen, songwriter and ad person have used these and to a person, we have all hated these and other terms. "But hey, Brian, I have heard other Black people using Nigger. What about that?" Well, you must consider the source. Here is the unwritten code: African-Americans sometimes do use that word, but if the person is friendly to the other, it is usually not taken the wrong way. However, while I am friendly with my Pastor, I would NOT use it on him. One does not call the other a nigger in front of someone of another ethnicity. Can it be used in anger? You betcha! Now a while back (let's say the late 80's) a movement started to reclaim the stereotypes and the terms used to hurt my people. I see the point in the sense of empowerment and definition, so if 2Pac issues an album "...For My Niggaz", he is using it in this sense: "That term no longer hurts me, as a matter of fact, I take that, assimilate it and I use it. It binds us, for we have all been called it and yet we don't wish to be perceived as "Just a nigger" ". That's how I took it, anyway. Chris Rock, however, uses the term in this context, "I love Black people, but I hates me some niggers!", as in, "If you act in poor fashion, ___ will think badly of ALL of us!" I see his point, too. How do I feel about the word? Let's put it this way: I can spend my money where I please, I can vote, own a house, pray, pay taxes, protest if I disagree with something and walk around at night (unless if I am in San Diego or Los Angeles; I have been stopped quite a few times for that). ALL of the above has been achieved at a high price: humiliation, lynching, beating, murder, injustice, lying. You name it. Many folks have died hearing that word, many folks have died thinking that they weren't worthy of being called anything better than that. I had a cousin whose real NAME I don't know because until he went to school, it was changed for him, because his identity was not important enough to the person calling his name in school. Don't argue to me about etymology of the word, because in the end, it doesn't make a lick of difference when you see someone swinging in the breeze for the crime of being born (lynching still goes on by the way, it just isn't "news") I really (multiplied by 342) didn't want to talk about this on a music list, but you asked and I felt this needed an answer and I also have to sleep at night. Not saying that you did, but DON'T you DARE call me a nigger. Not even as a joke. Anyone who knows me knows this and if you don't, I am telling you now. Brian Phillips P.S. I am also hip to the folks that want to go ahead and use "nigger" on me after explictly saying NOT to. I don't do rude well and I do cliche' worse. OK? ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V99 #98 ************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. 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