From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2000 #24 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Wednesday, January 19 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 024 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: velvet underground... SoundViews@aol.com Re: velvet underground... Rmerchandz@aol.com Re: michael brown??? Rmerchandz@aol.com Re: velvet underground... "Totaro" Re: velvet underground... SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: velvet underground... Tom Davis Biafra for pres/Anarchy in the UK "Scarborough, Justin" Video for the bed-resting Brian Phillips Re: Biafra for pres/Anarchy in the UK SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: velvet underground... Brian Phillips WARNING TO EVERYONE SHBEVLON1@aol.com Fwd: NEW REVIEW SHBEVLON1@aol.com Fwd: NEW REVIEW SHBEVLON1@aol.com Fwd: NEW REVIEW SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: michael brown??? MC BIGOT Re: velvet underground... MC BIGOT Re: velvet underground... DCAMPA@austin.rr.com Jimi and the Velvet Underground Rmerchandz@aol.com Re: Video for the bed-resting nixie nox Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground Tom Davis Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground SoundViews@aol.com Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground Rmerchandz@aol.com Wrecks Polly Magoo Sin City Disciples AlisaLove2@aol.com Re:VU & flixxx Alyssa & Chris Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground SHBEVLON1@aol.com Melbourne's Groop Max Waller Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground "Blair" Re: Re:VU & flixxx DCAMPA@austin.rr.com Movies and Girl Names (decidedly non-Bomp) "Totaro" Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground "modlevine" Re: velvet underground... Andies Candies For those who care, we're there... APiandes@aol.com It's coming!! "Ray Brazen" Zappa and the VU Rick McCullough ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 09:50:25 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: velvet underground... genius, overrated or just a solid rock band? curious what everyone thinks... lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:21:46 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Re: velvet underground... In a message dated 1/19/00 10:52:34 AM, SoundViews@aol.com writes: << genius, overrated or just a solid rock band? curious what everyone thinks... lee sound views >> The Velvet Underground are absolute genius, no doubt about it. They are intriguing. I would say avoid buying separate albums and purchase the entire boxed set called "Peel Slowly and See." If you don't want to blow that much cash, get "The Velvet Underground and Nico." Few groups in musical history have written such a fantastic variation of villainous rockers, ringing pop songs and beautiful ballads. The menace of the Velvet's sound is almost unequaled by any other 60's band. Lou Reed was able to write lyrics with the poetic charm of Ray Davies or Dylan. Frankly, I think the Velvets are better than the Beatles and on a par with the Kinks. Baskerville Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:26:01 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Re: michael brown??? In a message dated 1/19/00 12:44:15 AM, cosmopop@prodigy.net writes: << anyone got any up to dates on whatever happened to michael brown, the brains behind the lefte banke who later surfaced in the beckies with former chessman square members---someone in this esteemed group must have read something i've missed somewhere along the line---the guy was just too good to drop off the face of the earth---thanks >> The rumors were flying that Mr. Left Banke was a Syd Barrett-type casualty, but from what I understand he is living a fairly normal life. He isn't beating citrus with a hammer on a park bench somewhere. Related to this - I recently purchased the 1968 Montage record. All of the songs were written and recorded by Brown with the baroque pop touch and sound like good Left Banke b-sides. Anyone else have an opinion on Montage? Baskerville Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:30:11 -0500 From: "Totaro" Subject: Re: velvet underground... I vote for solid rock band. Moving toward genius, I guess. (I'm at home on bedrest until the babies arrive. Which could be another 2 months for all I know. Any good video suggestions? I gots no cable tv.) Paige ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:47:23 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: velvet underground... I've only heard a compilation of songs written by Lou Reed. I'd have to say that "Herione" is good and the rest is boring crap. People tell me to check out the "White Light, White Heat" album but I still haven't gotten around to it. I know I don't like the song that much. Evan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:01:26 -0500 From: Tom Davis Subject: Re: velvet underground... At 10:21 AM 01/19/2000 EST, you wrote: > >In a message dated 1/19/00 10:52:34 AM, SoundViews@aol.com writes: ><< genius, overrated or just a solid rock band? >curious what everyone thinks... >lee sound views >> > >The Velvet Underground are absolute genius, no doubt about it. They are >intriguing. I would say avoid buying separate albums and purchase the entire >boxed set called "Peel Slowly and See." If you don't want to blow that much >cash, get "The Velvet Underground and Nico." Few groups in musical history >have written such a fantastic variation of villainous rockers, ringing pop >songs and beautiful ballads. The menace of the Velvet's sound is almost >unequaled by any other 60's band. Lou Reed was able to write lyrics with the >poetic charm of Ray Davies or Dylan. Frankly, I think the Velvets are better >than the Beatles and on a par with the Kinks. > >Baskerville Rob > i'd buy the albums seperately (and have). the box is nice but theres something about owning the individual albums that's special. anyway, the first album is a must own but if ya had to buy another i've actually preffered their third the self titled "velvet underground". "im set free" is just mesmerizing. yeah, genius. dunno bout better than the beatles. but up there definately. tom. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 10:09:44 -0600 From: "Scarborough, Justin" Subject: Biafra for pres/Anarchy in the UK I think I may have already posted this, and it's a few months outdated, but I thought for those of you who think the Biafra thing is funny would enjoy this as well.... Anarchy in the UK, vows new London Mayor hopeful LONDON, Dec 16 (Reuters) - The pop guru who spearheaded Britain's 1970s punk revolution by creating the Sex Pistols wants to be the new mayor of London - -- vowing to bring back anarchy to the UK. Malcolm McLaren, who managed the short-lived punk group until they turned on him, has promised to legalize brothels and cannabis, allow pubs to stay open 24 hours, serve alcohol in libraries and lobby against the capital's coffee shop culture. ''I have never seen so many restaurants, coffee shops, so many places to buy things, yet London has never seemed so dull,'' McLaren told the New Statesman magazine. He said he would allow legal brothels to open opposite the House of Commons, claiming they ''help get rid of sleaze scandals.'' But while McLaren adds a bizarre twist to the picture, he is seen as at the fringe of a mayoral race fraught with scandal among the main party candidates. Londoners go to the polls to choose their first elected mayor in May. Reuters/Variety ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:39:02 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Video for the bed-resting >(I'm at home on bedrest until the babies arrive. Which could be another 2 >months for all I know. Any good video suggestions? I gots no cable tv.) Depending on your taste: Pecker In and Out The King of Comedy The Great Man Citizen Kane All About Eve My Brilliant Career My Favorite Year Hope these help. Let me know what you dig in movies and I can suggest others. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:54:03 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: Biafra for pres/Anarchy in the UK now THAT was amusing! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:54:16 -0500 From: Brian Phillips Subject: Re: velvet underground... >I vote for solid rock band. Moving toward genius, I guess. Certainly groundbreaking in subject matter, however instead of overrated, they are moving into the category for me of over-reviewed, in which so many people discuss them and gush over them, by the time you get around to it, it may not meet expectations (this is NOT an accusation or slam of anyone on the list, by the by). For example, I enjoy some of Jimi Hendrix's music, grew up listening to it (honest, I went from 4 foot 4 to...), but grew very weary of every surfer and stoner I disliked plus some rock critics whose opinions I grew to distrust deified him to the point that it began to deter me from the actual music. I like some of the Velvet Underground's stuff, regardless of who does and does not dig them (as I would anything else I listen to), some of it I doesn't move me. I rather like their unreleased album, my favorite being "Stephanie Says" Brian Phillips ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:17:13 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: WARNING TO EVERYONE I have decided to start posting my reviews on Bomp. They will all have the subject NEW REVIEW and are quite brief. Therefore, if you don't want to read them please just delete. I wouldn't do this except I remember a couple years back I posted a Makers review and, while some people bashed me to no end, others expressed interest in seeing reviews on here. However, if practically everyone on here is annoyed by this please just let me know and I'll stop. Thank you much, Evan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:18:23 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Fwd: NEW REVIEW Return-path: SHBEVLON1@aol.com From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Full-name: SHBEVLON1 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:14:32 EST Subject: NEW REVIEW To: Timelessgods@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 39 The Adverts "The Best Of..." (Anagram) The Adverts are one of the best bands ever. TV Smith at his finest led the group and they released their extroadinary first album "Crossing The Red Sea With..." in 1977. Their second album, however, was an attempt to convert to new wave and was basically a flop. This compilation includes most of the songs off the first album, a couple of B sides and two or three songs from the second album. A major bonus here is that the compilation includes the single version of "Gary Gilmore's Eyes", their classic, which is weaker on the album and cannot even be found on many of the albums anyway. The only dissappointments are that two of the songs are no good and the version of "Safety In Numbers" on here is not the album version, which is a hell of a lot stronger. I'd have to say the best bet would be to buy the first album with "Gary Gilmore's Eyes". Unfortunately, the single version is a bit stronger so it's actually quite a toss up. Grade: A Evan W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:18:41 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Fwd: NEW REVIEW Return-path: SHBEVLON1@aol.com From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Full-name: SHBEVLON1 Message-ID: <59.4b8bc7.25b520af@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2000 20:49:35 EST Subject: NEW REVIEW To: Timelessgods@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 39 THE SPLASH FOUR "SHAME SHAME SHAME" (Dionysus) These guys are without a doubt the best punk rock band around right now. Of course, there are other greats, but if you just want the finest in straight forward punk rock, this is it. This EP is no exception to the rule. These seven songs are utter sonic blasts that'll relieve your tension or satisfy your rocknroll palate any day of the week. The singer has the perfect sneering voice and the rock is both angry and sexy at once. The Splash Four play punk in that 77 tradition along with a modern twist for the perfect balance of loud untamed rocknroll. Absolute A+ BUY WITH ALL SPEED! Evan W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:18:56 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Fwd: NEW REVIEW Return-path: SHBEVLON1@aol.com From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Full-name: SHBEVLON1 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:14:32 EST Subject: NEW REVIEW To: Timelessgods@aol.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0 for Windows 95 sub 39 The Adverts "The Best Of..." (Anagram) The Adverts are one of the best bands ever. TV Smith at his finest led the group and they released their extroadinary first album "Crossing The Red Sea With..." in 1977. Their second album, however, was an attempt to convert to new wave and was basically a flop. This compilation includes most of the songs off the first album, a couple of B sides and two or three songs from the second album. A major bonus here is that the compilation includes the single version of "Gary Gilmore's Eyes", their classic, which is weaker on the album and cannot even be found on many of the albums anyway. The only dissappointments are that two of the songs are no good and the version of "Safety In Numbers" on here is not the album version, which is a hell of a lot stronger. I'd have to say the best bet would be to buy the first album with "Gary Gilmore's Eyes". Unfortunately, the single version is a bit stronger so it's actually quite a toss up. Grade: A Evan W. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:50:57 +0100 From: MC BIGOT Subject: Re: michael brown??? Rmerchandz@aol.com wrote: > Anyone else have an opinion on Montage? They kinda sound like Left Banke demos. Buy all the Left Banke stuff 1st (except the reunion LP) then if you need more, go for the Montage. The original ain't too tough to find I think but there's also a repro on Bam Caruso. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:47:52 +0100 From: MC BIGOT Subject: Re: velvet underground... SoundViews@aol.com wrote: > > genius, overrated or just a solid rock band? > > curious what everyone thinks... > I think they're both genius & overrated (but I would never call them a rock band). A lot of their songs are splendid but sometimes, there's serious "mind masturbation" going on. It's the kind of band that people need to give a serious try to make up their mind. It may take a while for some people but they've something strong... My fave LPs are "With Nico" and "VU". ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 12:08:07 -0800 From: DCAMPA@austin.rr.com Subject: Re: velvet underground... I agree completely w/Brian, the Velvets certainly aren't OVER-RATED (hell, ask the average slob who they are, and I bet most of 'em won't know), but lotsa "critics" tend to go on a spiel about how they are so influential, etc etc. When I first of them in high school, it was through a fellow student who had cool tastes, so when I finally bought my first V.U. first about a year later (also the day I bought my first blues record, a Bessie Smith comp), I was blown away. (Btw, Brian, I picked up these records @ Collector's Records in Dallas, where you scored so much cool stuff recently). That was their third Lp, which is in many ways is still my fave. It flows beautifully, and is much more like a story than many so called "concept" albums. I can't stand stand critics who say the Velvets were the forerunners of crap like Nirvana and alt.rock. They can't be blamed for it. I say to anyone who digs 'em a lot, definitely get the box set. You won't regret it, worth every penny. Especially outstanding here are the '65 demos and the "Loaded" out-takes. Hendrix is fab as well, but Brian was right on the mark again when every alleged hipster and stoner is into him. Forget these losers, and enjoy Jimi for the genius he was (esp the first two Lps and his BBC stuff). I especially dig his earlier, more blues-influenced music. "Stephanie Says" rules! Signed D.C. Texas ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:34:47 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Jimi and the Velvet Underground In a message dated 1/19/2000 1:01:52 PM, DCAMPA@austin.rr.com writes: << Hendrix is fab as well, but Brian was right on the mark again when every alleged hipster and stoner is into him. >> It's funny, because there are two separate crowds that are into the Velvet Underground and Hendrix. Hendrix seems to be worshipped by innovative, technical, and soulful guitarists and the wall street "guy" sort of crowd - the same people who will pay $500,000 for Clapton's guitar. They sit around with the dudes and talk about "Clapton and Hendrix." The Velvet Underground tends to appeal to the literate intelligentsia music crowd and critics. Baskerville Rob ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:41:36 -0500 From: nixie nox Subject: Re: Video for the bed-resting >Depending on your taste: > (film noir) Pick-up on South Street (Sam Fuller is great) Gilda Out of the Past Kiss Me Deadly Detour (road movies) Highway 61 (coming of age girl style) Foxes Poison Ivy Sweet Talk Out of the Blue trashy, other Near Dark (vampire western, warning! its bloody) At Close Range (trashy Seand Penn and Christopher Walken) King of New York (trashy trashy Christopher Walken) I can send more suggestions, especially if you like bad monster movies, or stupid sci fi, and I know there's more great road films, but I'm at work with a horrible unreasonable client to deal with right now. . . . nixie (good diet for the expectant mom, seaweed, sweet potatoes, yogurt smoothies, and Haagen Daaz) Nancy Martell Gilliatt & Campbell Corporate & Brand Communications 902 Broadway 20th Floor New York, New York 10010 nmartell@gcnyc.com 212-475-6929 fax 212-254-6670 phone USA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:55:50 -0500 From: Tom Davis Subject: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground At 01:34 PM 01/19/2000 EST, you wrote: > >In a message dated 1/19/2000 1:01:52 PM, DCAMPA@austin.rr.com writes: ><< Hendrix is fab as well, but Brian was right on the mark again when every >alleged hipster and stoner is into him. >> > >It's funny, because there are two separate crowds that are into the Velvet >Underground and Hendrix. > >Hendrix seems to be worshipped by innovative, technical, and soulful >guitarists and the wall street "guy" sort of crowd - the same people who >will pay $500,000 for Clapton's guitar. They sit around with the dudes and >talk about "Clapton and Hendrix." > >The Velvet Underground tends to appeal to the literate intelligentsia music >crowd and critics. > >Baskerville Rob >funny i was just reading derogatis's book "kaleidoscope eyes" last night (a friend gave it for chriistmas) and derogatis wrote something about hendrix that i really agreed with. hendrix guitar virtuosity gets raved on ad nauseum till it makes most of us sick. but what often gets overlooked is that hendrix could write a good song. i found myself agreeing having long liked hendrix's song construction but getting increasingly irritated whenever some "fan" tried to get me involved in a boring, useless, enough already, we all know, conversation about how great the guy was at playing guitar. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:06:32 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground >>> funny i was just reading derogatis's book "kaleidoscope eyes" last night (a friend gave it for chriistmas) and derogatis wrote something about hendrix that i really agreed with. hendrix guitar virtuosity gets raved on ad nauseum till it makes most of us sick. but what often gets overlooked is that hendrix could write a good song. i found myself agreeing having long liked hendrix's song construction but getting increasingly irritated whenever some "fan" tried to get me involved in a boring, useless, enough already, we all know, conversation about how great the guy was at playing guitar. <<< no doubt! i always thought that hendrix was an overlooked songwriter -- not to mention vocalist -- especially on stuff like *axis...*, which contains some fine songs. lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:43:11 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground In a message dated 1/19/2000 2:08:03 PM, SoundViews@aol.com writes: << no doubt! i always thought that hendrix was an overlooked songwriter -- not to mention vocalist -- especially on stuff like *axis...*, which contains some fine songs. lee sound views >> Sometimes it's sad when a fan group, like the Wall Street Contingent, spoil the mystery of an artist. I would say the Velvet Underground have retained their mystery element, where Hendrix became a t-shirt at Spencer's Gifts! What if Hendrix never had a hit? I wonder if he'd be regarded more like Arthur Lee or Nick Drake? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 20:56:20 +0100 (CET) From: Polly Magoo Subject: Wrecks Why don't you wreck your own car? How goofy! Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:24:51 PST From: "tobba andersson" Subject: Wrecks wanted! Hey everyone... Tobba at Zorch Productions in Sweden. I am in desperate need of pix of wrecked cars. Preferably hotrods... For the next Barbwires 7" cover. Any suggestions or tips would be appreciated... Tobba ZORCH PRODUCTIONS, giving music a bad name since 1989... #0708-570219 e-mail:zorchman@hotmail.com www.24timmar.se/zorch ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 14:56:22 EST From: AlisaLove2@aol.com Subject: Sin City Disciples Does anyone have any of their recordings. I rediscovered a tape with them on it, remembered how good they are, and the tape broke in the middle of a song. Any help is greatly appreciated!! Thanks Alisa ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 13:56:38 -0800 From: Alyssa & Chris Subject: Re:VU & flixxx Paige!!! Congratulations, hadn't heard from you in a bit and awhile........good vibes for you and your fam. Totaro wrote: > I vote for solid rock band. Moving toward genius, I guess. our house is dedicated wholly & beyond the pale to VU, so won't re-hash some of the astute analyses. Lou & Co. occupy a special place w/us. Several of these posts, re: Hendrix & VU are dead-on, no sense in jumping on the "me-too" bandwagon. > > (I'm at home on bedrest until the babies arrive. Which could be > another 2 > months for all I know. Any good video suggestions? I gots no cable > tv.) > > Paige Plenty: do you believe in the theory of womb-absorbence of the material? You could have one well rounded tot before the due date! You've probably seen or own most, but still, maybe, not, some of my faves, some are pretty sick, so I'll leave be. Better yet, just head to http://allmovie.com/ or another search site w/ a database, and enter, directors, actors, subject matter, etc, for there are tons of databases to serve you. we do have a soft spot for film noire, sick and twisted, satire, and just plain insane, so I won't list some hairy, some groovy, that are most likely on the this list; it could result in some major redundancy. For hard to find early classics, I do recommend Dennis C., he knows obsure film like nobody's biz. congrats again! ~ALYSSA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:27:10 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground In a message dated 1/19/00 1:36:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Rmerchandz@aol.com writes: << Hendrix seems to be worshipped by innovative, technical, and soulful guitarists and the wall street "guy" sort of crowd - the same people who will pay $500,000 for Clapton's guitar. They sit around with the dudes and talk about "Clapton and Hendrix." The Velvet Underground tends to appeal to the literate intelligentsia music crowd and critics. >> Yeah, and then both sometimes appeal to the hippy college stoners here! Evan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:30:25 -0500 From: Max Waller Subject: Melbourne's Groop The Groop had 3 LPs (plus 2 best of LPs), 3 Eps and nigh on a dozen 45s from '66 thru '69. At least 4 of 'em got a US release, including their final 'Jet Song' 45 - Woman You're Breaking Me / Mad Over Me (Jamie 1349)1968 We Can Talk / Such A Lovely Way (Jamie 1371)1969 A Famous Myth / Tears And Joy (Bell 800)1969 The Jet Song (When It's Over) / Nobody At All (Bell 822)1969 6 tracks were comped on The Raven EP LP Vol.3, an unreleased Mandrake Wine is on Turds On A Bum Ride Vol.4 CD. Woman... is on Sixties Downunder Vol.1 . rgds Max Myndblown Message text written by INTERNET:bomp@screamer.xnet2.com >>Was this the same Groop that had a near-hit in the US in 1969 called "The >Jet Song"?Joey> >The Groop's 'Don't Start Crying Now' is very > Them-influenced, of course, given that (like myself) Aussie bands weren't > really privvy to the original blues artists. I think it was the same Groop, but I'll have to check it out at home to be sure. The Aussie Groop were pretty big in Melbourne in the mid-sixties with several singles and a couple of LPs on CBS. They had a national hit with "Woman You're Breaking Me" in '67. I know that this was definitely released in the U.S. on 45 (Jamie I think), but it went nowhere up there. This song has a psychedelic Easybeats sound; a bit late (and commercial) for my tastes, but I'm sure many would dig it. It was actually comped as being by an American band on one of the old Mindrocker LPs. Peter< ------------------------------ Date: 19 Jan 2000 17:00:25 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground >What if Hendrix never had a hit? I wonder if he'd be regarded more >like >Arthur Lee or Nick Drake? I once thought it'd be really cool for someone to do an alternate timeline book where Elvis never made it, but kept on playing, only to become a fan fave of the stature of, say, Ronnie Dawson, when the late 80s came around. In fact, I told Miriam Linna she should be the one to write it... (I still say she'd be the perfect one.) Speaking of SF books dealing with rock'n'roll, anyone ever read _Buddy Holly Is Alive And Well And Living On Ganymede_? Also, I know there was a book where someone manages to either go back in time or is there to make sure certain "lost" albums are finished. (_Smile_ was one of them, as I remember.) I just can't remember the title or the author. I think it was mentioned on here a couple years ago. Can someone (a) refresh my memory and (b) recommend a place to pick it up? (As I recall, I had amazon.com or bn.com keeping their eyes open, but there are better places for such things.) Cheers, Blair ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:58:10 -0800 From: DCAMPA@austin.rr.com Subject: Re: Re:VU & flixxx First, let me add my congrats to Paige, and I know yer baby will be swell. Wonder if the kid will listen to be-BOMP music? (Sorry, I couldn't resist. > For hard to find early classics, I do recommend Dennis C., he knows > obsure film like nobody's biz. Many thanx for saying this Alyssa, and I,too, dig the noir, sick and twisted, satire, off the wall stuff. Here are some of all time faves for you, Paige, hope you dig these films. So without further aideu: SHERLOCK, JR (1924). If you've never seen a silent film, this is the perfect place to start. A very short (about 50 mins) comedy that Buster Keaton directs and stars in. He plays a projectionist who dreams himself into the movie he's showing. Immensely cleaver, w/effects that are still magicial and ingenuous. YELLOW SUBMARINE (1968). Another imaginative film, and one I'm sure yer kid will dig once they are up and running. Can't wait to see it on the big screen (I think it's playing here in Austin @ the Paramount next month). What more can you say, it's the Beatles, Blue Meanies, and lotsa fun! OUT OF THE PAST (1947); MURDER, MY SWEET (1944); THE MALTESE FALCON (1941). Great noir classics (though MALTESE is early in the genre so it's more a detective film, but it's Bogie and great). Dick Powell as Philip Marlowe in MURDER is even more desperate and falls harder than Bogie did playing the same character in THE BIG SLEEP. And how can you beat Robert Mitchum in PAST? There are of course dozens of great noir films out there, but all of these are must sees. A BUCKET OF BLOOD (1959). A genuine classic! Roger Corman dead bodies in the museum send up set in a Beatnick coffeehouse. Great jazz soundtrack, too. Also, check out someold cartoons and comedy shorts, esp. the Little Rascals, Laurel and Hardy, Charley Chase, Betty Boop, Daffy Duck, Flip the Frog, the silent era Felix the Cat, the Three Stooges, etc. etc.. Sorry to make this post a bit on the longish side, but once someone brings up movies (esp. older ones), I tend to go for a bit. Also dig all of Brian's suggestions as well. Glad to see THE GREAT MAN (1956) mentioned, has a killer cast (Jose Ferrer, Ed and Keenan Wynn, Jim Backus, etc). Signing out into film heaven, D.J.C. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:08:25 -0500 From: "Totaro" Subject: Movies and Girl Names (decidedly non-Bomp) Many thanks to all for the film suggestions. Keep 'em coming (off-list is fine too - don't want to violate the purity of the list content!). And yes, the girls (TWO are due to arrive sometime between now and March 15 - twins are rather unpredictable) have already been exposed to much rockin' and rollin' in utero. They get quite active when I take them to see bands. I think they were doing back flips when I saw the Candy Snatchers and the Cherry Valens a few months back. I imagine they'll have a different reaction if I make it to the Magnetic Fields show this weekend. We're still in search of girl names, so forward those along. Thanks to Lola for all of her suggestions which are still in the running. I'm just sorry that Nixie Nox is already taken ; ) Where does that name come from, I wonder? Paige ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 18:45:51 -0000 From: "modlevine" Subject: Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground yes I did read buddy holly is alive and well on ganymede, and it's great and original, the author Bradley Denton, writes very originally and uniquely, he has a story, called " the Calvin coolage home for dead comedians". I got an other idea, how about rock and roll historical mysteries, like "the Elvis presley murder mystery" or "the gene Vincent murder mystery" and especially "the don crane murder mystery" . Hell they got the Marx brothers, and all kinds of actors why not rockers. - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blair" To: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 10:00 PM Subject: Re: Re: Jimi and the Velvet Underground > > >What if Hendrix never had a hit? I wonder if he'd be regarded more > >like > >Arthur Lee or Nick Drake? > > I once thought it'd be really cool for someone to do an alternate timeline > book where Elvis never made it, but kept on playing, only to become a fan > fave of the stature of, say, Ronnie Dawson, when the late 80s came around. > In fact, I told Miriam Linna she should be the one to write it... (I still > say she'd be the perfect one.) > > Speaking of SF books dealing with rock'n'roll, anyone ever read _Buddy > Holly Is Alive And Well And Living On Ganymede_? > > Also, I know there was a book where someone manages to either go back in > time or is there to make sure certain "lost" albums are finished. (_Smile_ > was one of them, as I remember.) I just can't remember the title or the > author. I think it was mentioned on here a couple years ago. Can someone > (a) refresh my memory and (b) recommend a place to pick it up? (As I > recall, I had amazon.com or bn.com keeping their eyes open, but there are > better places for such things.) > > Cheers, > > Blair > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 15:52:41 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: Re: velvet underground... love 'em. They can bring on so many different emotions. My fave stuff by them is the plodding psyche stuff like "All Tomorrow's Parties". - --Andrea - --- SoundViews@aol.com wrote: > > genius, overrated or just a solid rock band? > > curious what everyone thinks... > > lee sound views > --- > http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html > (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, > etc.) > > > > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:03:55 EST From: APiandes@aol.com Subject: For those who care, we're there... After several days of repairs and adjustments, WMFO's transmitter is up & running but the remote is fried, and as a result per FCC regulations, someone has to be at the station 24/7 'til it's fixed or replaced because the transmitter can't be shut down... In other news... I love VU and I agree that Hendrix was an underrated sonwriter. Kopper, your tapes are ready. I'm gonna try to get 'em to the shooting range, er, Post Office this Friday or Saturday. Andrea, I'll take you up on your offer to tape that Raunchy R & B thing w/the Bullmoose Jackson "Big 10"" track on it. and I keep hearing this refrain from a tune ca. 1970-71, "Tonight is the night is the night" Who did it? later Alex Piandes Coffee 'n' Smokes Saturdays 6-9am (EST) WMFO (91.5fm) Medford, MA DON'T JUST STAND THERE, TUNE IN LIVE VIA THE C & S WEBSITE!!! http://members.aol.com/apiandes/Main ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 16:56:13 PST From: "Ray Brazen" Subject: It's coming!! CINCO DE FEBRERO IS COMING....... WWW.RAYBRAZEN.COM is your one-stop link to..... EL MUNDO LOCO DE LOS DUG DUG'S and THE FIRST CHURCH OF THE GODZ! ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 19:44:53 -0800 From: Rick McCullough Subject: Zappa and the VU I love the Velvets. But I also love the early Mothers records, particularly the first three. Trouble is, those two bands hated each other. In fact, Zappa disliked the VU so much that he went out of his way to bash them on his "We're Only In It For The Money" album. What a shame, considering how really alike they were: both taking a decidedly non-commercial art-rock approach; both recording for Verve; and both ardently opposed to the then reigning flower power hype. I dunno, it's almost like having to choose one of your parents if they divorce. Rick ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2000 #24 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com