From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2000 #37 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Tuesday, January 25 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 037 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: SUGGESTION FOR CAVESTOMP 2000 ARei425705@aol.com MYSTERY ACTION!!! pekka.laine@yle.fi Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism ARei425705@aol.com Record Collectors-Scensterism boldface@easynet.co.uk RE: Record Collectors "Coleman, Steve" Re: RE: Record Collectors Rmerchandz@aol.com Re: Collectormania PETER Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism "Blair" Re: Bob Hunt - Does anyone know about this? Herra Hartikainen RE: Record Collectors "Blair" Bob Hunt/Bob Hund part 2 Anders Olsson Masters.. "Mojo" Re: Paris is rockin' (a little bit) "Laurent Bigot" Masters...of Chord changes! "RedWith PurpleFlashes" Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism "RedWith PurpleFlashes" Re: Masters.. "Sylvain" Re:"Collectors" Evan_Davies@nyc.wcj.com Re: RE: Record Collectors "Laurent Bigot" Re: Re: new stuff out/Lost Generation 2 SoundViews@aol.com Re: Masters.. TSanc43763@aol.com Re: RE: Record Collectors Rmerchandz@aol.com RE: bomp-digest V2000 #35 "Epke, Larry" The Masters Apprentices Brian Jenkins Radio Rumpus Room playlist, 01/14/00 Ron Thums Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism "modlevine" Re: "Collectors" Moparlary@aol.com fave turntable Moparlary@aol.com circles "Emery, J." Re: RE: Record Collectors "Laurent Bigot" Re: D.I.Y. series Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com> Fuzztones & x-Bomboras & Bomp! "Krochko, Kathleen" Re: D.I.Y. series Moparlary@aol.com stylus damage "nipper@thestranger.com" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 05:10:01 EST From: ARei425705@aol.com Subject: SUGGESTION FOR CAVESTOMP 2000 Jon.. Did you know that The ELECTRIC PRUNES are back together??? See: www.electricprunes.com Now if only The Sonics and The Blues Magoos could reform... - -Ari ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:54:20 +0200 From: pekka.laine@yle.fi Subject: MYSTERY ACTION!!! Hi, I just got my copy of Mystery Action's debut cd: Here's to another Year. I've played it twice. Great mod/power pop/ for modern times. Evan FOster of Boss Martians fame is the head honcho, but musically that's irrelevant. This is just mind blowin' Small Faces/Cheap Trick/Husker Du inspired pop sung really well and played with a lot of punch and with a great sound (not retro though). If you're into this kind of stuff, do check this out- it's worth it. Pekka Laine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 06:03:22 EST From: ARei425705@aol.com Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism In a message dated 1/25/0 6:06:48 AM, voxarella@mailcity.com writes: << I have a good friend in a band who just recently turned 21. He has actually been told that he's "too young to play garage"! Can you imagine a more ridiculous thing to say to someone who loves this music? God!! Some 21 year old wants to play Standells covers and not Korn! Glory halle-fucking-lujah!!! Wanna keep garage alive? Then encourage the new kids! Don't shut them out and don't look down on them because they don't happen to know the Sonics entire discography or Dave Aguilar's middle name. >> Man, I couldn't agree more! And by the way, I think this applies to some members of the current younger garage crowd that badmouth the 80's revivalists and even bitch about the reunions of 60's bands at Cavestomp! >From the 80's scene on up to the garage scene going on now, I've noticed WAY too much elitism and clique bullshit. This kind of insecure junior high attitude keeps the scene very small..and I'm sure that that is exactly what the persons responsible WANT...see, alot of these type people wish they could be onstage, but for whatever reason, can't be performers...so therefore, to make themselves feel important, they must CRITICIZE...it's so transparent. I've never scene anyone that I felt was truly COOL ragging on all the bands or other scenesters...they didn't NEED to. If everyone would support the musicians involved in the garage scene, no matter what era they come from, the scene would expand...and eventually it would be big enough to influence major label stars..(if for nothing else but a laff, who wouldn't enjoy watching Alanis sing some cool garage cover instead of the putrid crap she spews out now?)...maybe we'd even see The Shadows of Knight on Behind The Music. Maybe some of this kind of music would be played on MTV. How about The Roky Erikson Story on Biography. Ten years ago who woulda thought that Iggy's music would be in 2 TV commercials? See the big picture! Ari ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:24:02 +0000 From: boldface@easynet.co.uk Subject: Record Collectors-Scensterism >I think what bothers me the most is, there's alot of new kids into 60's >garage who feel shut out and >intimidated the the "older" crowd. These are >kids who are just discovering this music and want >information, not >attitude, which, judging from what my younger friends It's quite common for people to come up to me at the club and ask what I'm playing and if I can make a tape for them. (I also get a fair number of people asking if I can play something more contemporary, Oasis, Abba, Madonna, etc! but that's another story...) And of course, they get a tape at the next gig or in the mail with a representative selection of 60s garage/psych etc with a list of song titles/band names and some further information, and details of places that sell this stuff. This doesn't make me a great guy or anything - I do it because I want these people to continue to pay their £4 on the door every time I put on a gig, I want the bands that I like to gain more support, I want a decent crowd at any venue I go to because it always makes for a better time. As far as the "garage scene" is concerned, I'd rather be a small fish in a big pond than the only fish in the pond. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:49:53 -0000 From: "Coleman, Steve" Subject: RE: Record Collectors Don wrote: « I want to add in my own Four-Part categorization of record collectors: 1. People Who Love Music; 2. People Who Love Bands; 3. People Who Love One Band; 4. People Who Are Insane » What about the type who can recite endless information about David John & The Mood or The Untamed but when you mention the ball-busting power (btw thanks for info on Tupper) of "Over Under Sideways Down" or "Midnight To Six" they look at you with blank faces. I kid you not, there are collectors out there that avoid the real movers'n'shakers (Yardbirds, Pretties, Who, Small Faces etc) and spend small fortunes on 45s by bands who only ever recorded one or two or three 45s. Now that is insane! What is even more stupid is when you try explaining to someone the worth of an artist/band who has kicked arse for twenty five consistent years with bugger all recognition and who's records are available for fifty cents on eBay. Still every man or woman to their fetish. "I'm living in a world and I don't know where I belong, running through the dumper bins at records fairs, I always seem to run alone." Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 07:17:19 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Record Collectors I am bothered by collectors when they are more interested in the plastic than what is pressed on it. If an album is well mastered, who cares if it's on vinyl or CD? It's about the music. Baskerville Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 00 23:19:08 +1100 From: PETER Subject: Re: Collectormania >>or is it just useless collector talk... nothing personal, I just hate >>record collectors Saying that on the Bomplist is like running into a gay bar and yelling "Disco sucks!" And then, some wise advice: >From: "BlackMonk (Tom,as always)" >Subject: Re: Re:"Collectors" >I always tell people, I don't collect records, but I do buy a lot of them. Yes, the concept of the "collector" does carry rather unsavoury connotations - nightmarish imagery of the bearded, obese 39 year-old hobbyist who lives in his mother's basement and spends every cent of his pension on his "interest". He views his rare records as "trophies" in much the same way as a stamp or coin collector. Some further observations about this gentleman: 1.He doesn't own a working record player. 2.He gets all the good stuff at record fairs before you even turn up... because he's been camping outside since 3am. 3.He has never spent more than $3 for a record ("They're only plastic!"), including one you once shelled out $200 for. And his is in better condition. 4.99% of his 78,456 item (he counts them) collection is absolute crap, however. 5.In fact, his mother's house is so full of records that he has to live in a caravan in the backyard. With his mother. 6.He won't sell you any of his 300 mint '60s punk 45s because he "needs" them to maintain his "run" of consecutive serial numbers. 7.He won't even sell you his swaps, because he might need them for "cross referencing" 8.He wonders why you like that '60s punk rubbish in the first place. 9.He always wears a track suit. 10.The same one. 11.He phones you every night to talk about the "hobby" with his "new collector buddy". - -Peter ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2000 07:39:31 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism >Man, I couldn't agree more! And by the way, I think this applies to some >members of the current younger garage crowd that badmouth the 80's >revivalists Well said, Ari. Personally, I absolutely *love* seeing kids get into garage. (And I'm thrilled when I hear one of my students telling me they love a CD I'm playing, be it ? & the Mysterians, The Remains, The Swingin' Neckbreakers, The Makers, The Resonars, The Vipers, or whoever.) I'm even happier to see them at all-ages shows. The future of rock'n'roll is not in the hands of those who've been around 15-20 years... Many of the people I was hanging out with when I was 18 are now married with kids and don't have the time to go out all the time the way they used to. For a rock'n'roll scene to survive, there has to be a good number of younger people involved. Now back to Ari's point... It bothers me that some of the younger crowd seem so willing to discard the 80s scene. Put simply, I doubt many of the current bands would have existed if the 80s thing hadn't happened. It's just a matter of "begats," after all. Who was influenced by who, etc. What band grew out of what scene... So many of today's groups worship The Devil Dogs. Well, they were a damn great band. But The Devil Dogs grew out of The Rat Bastards (who, by the way, spent a summer playing as the Surfinks), all or most of whom were hanging out on the NYC garage scene before that. (And the Rat Bastards were one of the main bands on the remnants of the garage scene in 1988. And did a GREAT version of "Why.") This kind of thing can be said for many other bands, people, etc. I'll admit it... It bothers me when I hear someone tell me that the 80s scene was stupid. I was there and enjoyed the hell out of it. I saw some amazing bands, made some great friends, heard some great rock'n'roll, and had a wonderful time. As much as I love everything that's happened since, I don't understand what makes it "better" in any way. I'm not saying it's worse, either, just that every era has its greatness. Shutting yourself out from any part makes no sense to me. Yeah, there's lots of music in existence that does nothing for me. But it seems that people just dismiss the 80s scene without having heard much (if any!) of it. Happy to have a snow day, Blair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:40:32 +0200 (EET) From: Herra Hartikainen Subject: Re: Bob Hunt - Does anyone know about this? On Tue, 25 Jan 2000, Bård Hodneland wrote: > > You're probably thinking of Bob Hund - a band (not a person) from Sweden. > They're not very Bompy, but I think they're great! They sing in Swedish, > sound a bit like early Pere Ubu (they even do a version of "The Final > Solution" called "Et fall och en lösning"), Velvet Underground and 80's New > Wave. > They've released 4 LP's + a lot of EP's and mini-albums. > They are big in SWeden and Norway - too big if you ask me; the last times I > saw them, the place was overcrowded with moronic "oh, I'm so cool and > alternative"-students. But who cares - I think they're fabulous. > > bård. Yep, gotta agree with bård. Bob Hund are great and they're not too big in Finland, at least not yet. Jussi ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2000 07:43:12 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: RE: Record Collectors >What about the type who can recite endless information about David >John & >The Mood or The Untamed but when you mention the ball-busting power >(btw >thanks for info on Tupper) of "Over Under Sideways Down" or "Midnight >To >Six" Quite true. This is something you'll hear Greg Prevost or Andy Babiuk of The Chesterfield Kings talk about in interviews. They find it amazing how someone will drool over The Chocolate Watchband or some far more obscure group, but deny the genius of (at least) the early Rolling Stones. ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2000 14:01:46 +0100 From: Anders Olsson Subject: Bob Hunt/Bob Hund part 2 More Bob Hund information. The Nomads have done a cover on a Bob Hund song called Edvin Medvind on the Mans Ruin 7" Iron Dream and Bob Hunds singer Thomas Öberg has on several occasions been guest singer with the Nomads (they have done songs like Cock in my pocket, Jailhouse Rock (Dean Carter style), Search & Destroy and Kick out the Jams). Members from Bob Hund has also produced the coming album by Robert Johnsson and the Punchdrunks (ex Rumblers, Bottle Ups) and the songs I've heard sounds great! Ollie ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:00:19 -0000 From: "Mojo" Subject: Masters.. Toni Tyger: <> ** Too much. That song is the most. I'm a total fan of Masters Apprentice, and have both comps. I'm pretty partial to all of their stuff -- bit of course cuts like "War Or Hands & Time" are the winners. My mess around band covers it! Fantastic, epecially the way the Am changes to A in the chorus, and the harmonies. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:12:09 +0100 From: "Laurent Bigot" Subject: Re: Paris is rockin' (a little bit) Both bands hope to record at some point but no plan yet. - ----- Original Message ----- From: Sylvain To: Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2000 6:09 PM Subject: Re: Paris is rockin' (a little bit) > > > > >Last night was the 1st show of Les Terribles. They play 60s french beat > >a la Ultra Chicks/Ils Sont Fous Ses Gaulois. Next week will see the 1st > >show of their local > >competitors, Cécilia & ses Ennuis. > > incredible news !!! is there's something planned on vinyl, or do they just > wanna play occasionaly during local parisian "battle of the bands" events ? > There' s still some place left near my Playboys lps, hope both bands will > materialize their stuff soon ! > sylvain / switzerland > > ______________________________________________________ > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:27:30 GMT From: "RedWith PurpleFlashes" Subject: Masters...of Chord changes! What about in 'No Fun' by the Stooges,don't you just love that E to Em change after the twelve bar bit. Sends shivers down me spine... And what about the reverberated E,D,A,G chords of 'You're gonna miss me'....,possibley the greatest chords ever! Then there's that funny E#9 hendrix style chord,what a chord. 'Rollin' over' by the small faces,'Lady Orange Peel' by the Attack, 'Gong with a luminous' nose by Fleur Des Lys and of course 'Foxy lady'.Surely the master of all chords. But greatest of all chord sequences must go to the E,G,A,Am intro of 'For your Love' by the Yardbirds. Happy strumming! ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:29:46 GMT From: "RedWith PurpleFlashes" Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism Long live the chesterfield Kings! ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:50:57 CET From: "Sylvain" Subject: Re: Masters.. >Toni Tyger: <Mojo:" of course cuts like "War Or Hands & Time" are the winners." and my M.A Lp copy indicates "War or Hands Of time"... what's the real title of that masterpiece???? This song belongs to my 5 best freakbeat tunes ever, along with Ruppert's People 's « Dream In My Mind », Shel Naylor's « One Fine Day », The Clique's « You've Been Unfair » and of course Creation's « Making Time ». sylain / switzerland ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:13:25 -0500 From: Evan_Davies@nyc.wcj.com Subject: Re:"Collectors" >There are two kinds of record collectors. The first are the type who >collect every possible pressing variation of, say, Led Zepplin, the Another example of this type of collector: several years ago, Justina and I were in Sounds on St. Marks. In fact, this must have been more than several years ago because they still had vinyl in the big bins in the middle of the store. Anyway, Justina found a copy of the Gang of Four's Entertainment! album for something like $4.99 which was cool since for some reason we didn't have it. Moments later, Justina was set upon by this rumpled whiny collector guy who was pleading with her to let him buy the lp instead, that apparently he'd been looking all over for it. She politely refused, and in a last-ditch effort to convince her the guy said "I don't even know who they are, but it's one of the only 'Rolling Stone Top 100 Albums of All Time' that I'm missing!" If they'd had more of those albums we would have bought them all. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:58:29 +0100 From: "Laurent Bigot" Subject: Re: RE: Record Collectors Here Rob I don't agree. Although I buy CDs I prefer getting stuff on vinyl as long as the mastering is well done. I really hate looking thru cds to buy them or take em out to play them. It's physical. The music is still what matters the most so if there's bonus cuts on the cd, I get the cd... but I love records. It's not about collecting: I'd rather have all the Sundazed 45s than the original copy of the Keggs! (I know, if I sold that K's 45 I would probably be able to buy all the Sund' 45 twice & more...but you know what I mean) - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 1:17 PM Subject: Re: RE: Record Collectors > > I am bothered by collectors when they are more interested in the plastic than > what is pressed on it. If an album is well mastered, who cares if it's on > vinyl or CD? It's about the music. > > Baskerville Rob > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:54:57 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: new stuff out/Lost Generation 2 << Hey, where can I find Lost Generation Vol. 2? Does anyone know of somewhere in the US? >> >> I got mine at midnight, nyc. how is this comp.; is it worth snaggin'? lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:53:52 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: Masters.. In a message dated 1/25/00 5:52:23 AM Pacific Standard Time, fuzzymental@hotmail.com writes: << and my M.A Lp copy indicates "War or Hands Of time"... what's the real title of that masterpiece???? This song belongs to my 5 best freakbeat tunes ever, along with Ruppert's People 's « Dream In My Mind », Shel Naylor's « One Fine Day », The Clique's « You've Been Unfair » and of course Creation's « Making Time ». sylain / switzerland __________________ >> it's War or...sylain, it's called a typo. ha! Tony ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:15:44 EST From: Rmerchandz@aol.com Subject: Re: RE: Record Collectors In a message dated 1/25/2000 9:36:45 AM, jerk@club-internet.fr writes: << Here Rob I don't agree. Although I buy CDs I prefer getting stuff on vinyl as long as the mastering is well done. >> I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. My point is, I am interested in finding the best sound possible for my music. Baskerville Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:40:56 -0600 From: "Epke, Larry" Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2000 #35 The Mike Hunt was used in the original "Porky's" movie. A girl receives a call and pages over the intercom "Has anyone seen Mike Hunt?" Tastefully Larry Epke Lepke@thecha.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:06:46 -0500 From: Brian Jenkins Subject: The Masters Apprentices "Grooviness," The Masters Apprentices compilation cd "Hands Of Time" (1965-72) is available at METRO MUSIC. The website is http://www.metro-music.com I agree also, the post '67 stuff is heavy, but 65-67................A+! Hope this helps some. Brian Jenkins http://expage.com/page/garagepsych (THE PSPOT) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:55:50 -0600 From: Ron Thums Subject: Radio Rumpus Room playlist, 01/14/00 Hey, it time again to launch this damn playlist out into the electronic ether -- only to watch if fall on our friends and enemies alike, like Russki rockets tumbling into some hapless rural hamlet. Well, that's the magic of radio for ya! (For over five years now, Radio Rumpus Room has been broadcast Fridays at 9-10:30 p.m. on KFAI Fresh Air Radio, FM 90.3 Minneapolis and 106.7 St. Paul. The show also streams live in RealAudio, and as always, our last three shows are archived in their entirety -- also in RealAudio. YOU CAN HEAR THIS SHOW RIGHT NOW comrades -- just head for the Radio Rumpus Room webpage for all the ear-poppin' goods!) Here's what went down in the glorious Republic of Radio Rumpus Room on Friday, January 14, 2000: SAVVY SHOW STARTER (ALWAYS LOCALLY RECORDED!) Danny's Reasons -- Little Diane (Danny's Reasons; Cloud 9) A very popular band locally in the mid-'60s (that with personnel changes ended up staying around into the early '80s), Danny's Reasons released this little grenade on the IRC label in 1966. This CD comp released in 1999 contains several sides from their mid-'60s singles ("Little Diane," "Triangles," "Under My Thumb" -- all from well-traveled vinyl), but the rest of the disc (with 13 previously unreleased songs) showcases their later Not-Ready-For-RRR horn rock and funk-style work. Torquays -- Stolen Moments (Garage Punk Unknowns, pt. 2; Crypt) Vaqueros -- Growing Pains (Get a Move On; Teenage Shutdown) We the People -- Too Much Noise (Mirror of Our Minds; Sundazed) Traces of Time -- Oh Bob (Fuzz, Flaykes, & Shakes: The Day Breaks at Dawn; Dionysus/Bacchus Archives) Saturn V Featuring Orbit -- Fooba Wooba John (Behind Closed Doors at a Recording Session 7-inch EP; Big Ben) Volcanos -- Bad News (Takin' Out the Trash: A Tribute to the Trashmen; Double Crown) Neanderthals -- Too Many Nights in a Ginmill (Tigermask Trash Au Go-Go; Dionysus) Fortune & Maltese and the Phabulous Pallbearers -- (She's a) Blow Out (Konquer Kampus; Hillsdale) Rogues -- Come On, Let's Go (Best of Bruce & Terry; Sundazed) Johnny Cash -- One Piece at a Time (Hot Rods & Custom Classics Box; Rhino) Bill Johnson -- Hot Rod Car (Hot Rod Rumble; Buffalo Bop) Kathy Mattea -- 455 Rocket (Love Travels; Mercury) Steve Earle & the Dukes -- Sweet Little '66 (Exit O; MCA) Skeletons -- Trans Am (In the Flesh; ESD) Sally Timms -- Dark Sun (Cowboy Sally's Twilight Laments for Lost Buckaroos; Bloodshot) Star Room Boys -- Almost Doesn't Count (Why Do Lonely Men and Women Want to Break Each Other's Hearts; Checkered Past) Dolly Parton -- I'm Gonna Sleep With One Eye Open (The Grass Is Blue; Sugar Hill) Robbie Fulks -- May the Best Man Win (The Very Best of...; Bloodshot) Blanket Bomber -- Simona Surfs Nude (Max; self-released) Radio Birdman -- More Fun (Living Eyes; WEA) Hypnomen -- Mescalina (Watusi 99; MuSick) Pretty Things -- Vivian Prince (All Light Up 7-inch; Norton) Lord Dent and His Invaders -- Wolf Call (Wolf Call!: Tall Cool Ones From the Vaults of Golden Crest!; Norton) And that was that! Ron ________________ RADIO RUMPUS ROOM: An unholy mix of surf, hot rod, rockabilly, '60s garage, psychedelia, primal pop and traditional and alt.country KFAI 90.3 FM (Minneapolis) and 106.7 FM (St. Paul) Now streaming live in RealAudio every Friday 9-10:30 p.m. http://www.kfai.org/kfai2/kfailive.ram Recent archived shows in RealAudio, playlists and much more at: http://www2.bitstream.net/~rumpus2/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:47:28 -0000 From: "modlevine" Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism I agree with you, buy musical taste is a personal thing, some like one thing some like another, so it's good to try new stuff, especially if your young. If your too narrow you miss a lot of good music. I like jazz{early}, blues{especially jump, and delta},country{the good old stuff, not the bland new stuff} and of course 50'n rock{sun, rockabilly,burgess,wray, etc}60's rock{British, r&B,waiters Sonics, pebbles, searchers etc,freakbeat} soul, rockabilly, western swing , hillbilly boogie etc, and definitely not Brittany spears etc. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 11:03 AM Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism > > > In a message dated 1/25/0 6:06:48 AM, voxarella@mailcity.com writes: > > << I have a good friend in a band who just recently turned 21. He has > actually been told that he's "too young to play garage"! Can you imagine a > more ridiculous thing to say to someone who loves this music? God!! Some 21 > year old wants to play Standells covers and not Korn! Glory > halle-fucking-lujah!!! Wanna keep garage alive? Then encourage the new kids! > Don't shut them out and don't look down on them because they don't happen to > know the Sonics entire discography or Dave Aguilar's middle name. > >> > > Man, I couldn't agree more! And by the way, I think this applies to some > members of the current younger garage crowd that badmouth the 80's > revivalists and even bitch about the reunions of 60's bands at Cavestomp! > >From the 80's scene on up to the garage scene going on now, I've noticed WAY > too much elitism and clique bullshit. This kind of insecure junior high > attitude keeps the scene very small..and I'm sure that that is exactly what > the persons responsible WANT...see, alot of these type people wish they could > be onstage, but for whatever reason, can't be performers...so therefore, to > make themselves feel important, they must CRITICIZE...it's so transparent. > I've never scene anyone that I felt was truly COOL ragging on all the bands > or other scenesters...they didn't NEED to. If everyone would support the > musicians involved in the garage scene, no matter what era they come from, > the scene would expand...and eventually it would be big enough to influence > major label stars..(if for nothing else but a laff, who wouldn't enjoy > watching Alanis sing some cool garage cover instead of the putrid crap she > spews out now?)...maybe we'd even see The Shadows of Knight on Behind The > Music. Maybe some of this kind of music would be played on MTV. How about The > Roky Erikson Story on Biography. Ten years ago who woulda thought that Iggy's > music would be in 2 TV commercials? > See the big picture! > Ari > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:56:53 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: "Collectors" In a message dated 1/24/00 11:31:39 PM Eastern Standard Time, voxarella@mailcity.com writes: << But I HATE, truly fucking hate "record collector snobs". >> the big diff here is whether people appreciate something for what it is as opposed to those who only appreciate it for its investiment potential, whether its records, cars, guitars, etc. If the music's never heard, the car never driven or guitar never played, for fear the value will drop, then you're an embalmer. The only appreciation is the check after the deal is sealed on E-bay. I'll take the hearse , tho' Moparlary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:08:40 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: fave turntable In a message dated 1/25/00 2:56:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, jschwart@voicenet.com writes: << So what cartridges/stylus types/turntables do you all like? >> Okay this will probably earn me a royal flaming from all the audio heads out there, but I'm happy as a cat in a tuna store with my 20 year old Technics SL-D2 direct drive. yeah the audio heads will yelp that there is some motor noise when you turn the volume up to 11 in your fine sound proofed oak panelled listening room. But in the real world I haven't noticed it. I like to make compilations and the direct drive is easy to cue without wreckin' the guts, like you'd do with a belt drive machine. From a mechanical engineering standpoint, belt drives are doomed from the day they leave the plant. The constant pull of the belt between the motor and the platter eventually makes the bearings in the motor go to that great hardware store in the sky. I've managed to score good working drive drives at yard sales for under $10 bucks from unsuspecting laser dupes, so they are out there to he had for the price of a couple of happy meals....! a happy direct driver...Moparlary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:18:15 -0600 From: "Emery, J." Subject: circles someone on the punk list mentioned that there's a comp available by the late 70s brit band the circles (band that had the great powerpop tune "opening up"). i think it's a cd reissue called private life. anyone have this comp? is this worth checking out? thanks, joe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:21:28 +0100 From: "Laurent Bigot" Subject: Re: RE: Record Collectors Rob I mean, if I can get good sound on vinyl & cd, I get the vinyl & I wish I could only get vinyl cauz it's a lot more pleasant to look thru records than to look thru cds. And always remember: cds were created to screw you big time (same price to make them for the company, double price for you at the store). - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 4:15 PM Subject: Re: RE: Record Collectors > > > In a message dated 1/25/2000 9:36:45 AM, jerk@club-internet.fr writes: > > << Here Rob I don't agree. Although I buy CDs I prefer getting stuff on vinyl > as long as the mastering is well done. >> > > I'm not sure what you are disagreeing with. My point is, I am interested in > finding the best sound possible for my music. > > Baskerville Rob > ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2000 09:27:30 -0800 From: Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com> Subject: Re: D.I.Y. series Talkin' about Rhino DIY series....has anyone heard the three volume "Poptopia" compilations from Rhino? - -mark _______________________________________________________ Are you a Techie? Get Your Free Tech Email Address Now! Many to choose from! Visit http://www.TechEmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:33:38 -0800 From: "Krochko, Kathleen" Subject: Fuzztones & x-Bomboras & Bomp! Hey there. Just thought I'd let you folks know, if you don't know already (I've been away for a long while and haven't had a chance to read lots of posts), from what I hear, Jake and Johnny of the x-Bomboras have joined the Fuzztones. They're playing their first gig as a "new" band here in LA on March 25th, I believe. As I'm sure most of you know, Jake used to be in the Fuzztones long ago and far away. Also, other remnants of the Bomboras, Dave and Shane, have worked up The Invisible Men again, and are doing a whole bunch of shows here very soon, as well. Just ordered some great stuff from Bomp! Records. Geez, they are fast! Thumbs up for them. Excited to put the needle on The Miracle Workers, the first Last (can't believe I just got it), and The Gravedigger V. Wheeee! Hope everyone here is swell. Missed all the good scoop and glad I'm back. over and out: AstroKat ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:42:40 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: D.I.Y. series In a message dated 1/25/00 12:29:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, 999@techemail.com writes: << Talkin' about Rhino DIY series....has anyone heard the three volume "Poptopia" compilations from Rhino? >> yeah, save for a couple of songs, I'd give it a go... Moparlary ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:50:12 -0800 From: "nipper@thestranger.com" Subject: stylus damage >I keep thinking I should get a much better cartridge, but then I realize >I'm >gonna play grungy records on it a lot. I've been told by phonograph sales people the only thing that should damage the wax, provided you're using relatively up to date gear, is the dust fibers which get caught under the needle and drag along the inside/surface of the grooves... it acts like sand paper! So keep yer wax clean! However, I've been told the very opposite by most everyone else, other phono dealers too. Right...so who do I believe is telling the truth? Um...the jackass who wants sell me something, anything, or the guy who seems to believe a nice needle is gonna last so he doesn't push the quick SALE? Well, who would you believe? I picked the nice fella who spent time with me and didn't insist I blindly toss $$$ his way! Again, maybe this should go to those "scientisits" at Goldmine... I share the turntable with both shit shape and new LPs and the only problem I've ever had is as the tip becomes worn the highs loose crispness, "Sssss" sounds are likely to sound like "SHHHH"...tho' right now I'm having trouble with a slurring speed control! Otherwise, I've never heard any sound degradation in any of my oft played records, nor have crappy records hurt my needle...hell, isn't the needle harder than the wax? Hmmmm, what are the arguments of direct drive vs. belt drive? I prefer the direct drive... Oh, the only trouble I've had with the LP format was when my gear was cold...I lived in an unheated house, fer five damn years too, anyway, when it was at sustained 40F or less my LPs would play with a distinct hiss...no one I've encountered has ever had this problem nor do they know why it happened! Heres a good one! Are there any contemporary turntables which can accept a Ceramic and Magetic cartridge...? The Ceramics sound SO MUCH BETTER, but a nice, in working order with new tubes (!), hi-fi is hard to find! enjoy the snow East Coasties! nipper ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2000 #37 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com