From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2000 #38 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Tuesday, January 25 2000 Volume 2000 : Number 038 It's another issue of bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or use the form at . The following subjects are included in this digest: Re:"Collectors" Storage? "nipper@thestranger.com" VELVETS related Polly Magoo Re: circles / chords SoundViews@aol.com '60s soul, punk, r&b, beat and gogo chicks in b'klyn tonight! SoundViews@aol.com Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism nixie nox Re: Re:"Collectors" brian marshall Re: D.I.Y. series brian marshall RE: bomp-digest V2000 #37 "Wojciechowski, Bob" Mystery Action "Kyle Christians" PAGING BOB DUNCAN... ARei425705@aol.com Mojo Magazine boldface@easynet.co.uk Re: Re:"Collectors" Andies Candies Re: "Collectors" Frank Uhle Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism Andies Candies Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: RE: Record Collectors Andies Candies RE: bomp-digest V2000 #35 Andies Candies Cali in Feb "Bek" Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism Andies Candies Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism SHBEVLON1@aol.com Re: stylus damage "Mark Ertmer" "...and you think you're funny ???" (was Re:new stuff out) "Sylvain" Re: Cali in Feb Jason M Re: Fuzztones & x-Bomboras & Bomp! "Blair" Re: "...and you think you're funny ???" (was Re:new stuff out) Jason M Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism "Blair" golliwogs photos? SoundViews@aol.com Re: "...and you think you're neutral ???" "tobba andersson" If You are Ordering Through Amazon.com . . . Andies Candies Supersuckers European Tour "McGowan, Rob (SD-EX)" the worst kind of collectors "Jeffrey Lemlich" Re: Masters Apprentices Rocroad@aol.com Re: Mojo Magazine "grooviness" Re: The Masters Apprentices "grooviness" Re: Mojo Magazine "Totaro" Re: bomp-digest V2000 #37 Schlitze@aol.com Posts To Posts... "Mike Markesich" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 09:50:28 -0800 From: "nipper@thestranger.com" Subject: Re:"Collectors" Storage? >Certain things I have bought because they are fun, have cool covers, or of >historical interest (like speeches of presidents, music boxes, etc) where in the HELL do you store all this stuff? I had to quit buying EVERYTHING ...I ran outta room! nipper ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:51:37 +0100 (CET) From: Polly Magoo Subject: VELVETS related I just picked up the GERARD MALANGA archive Cd on Sub Rosa. Really cool collection. There's a stooges rehearsal track (@the Factory!) that is unbelievable. Also got in the mail the ANGUS MAC LISE comp on Siltbreeze but haven't heard it yet. The Malanga curated disk i picked up in a neat new booK/record store Rue des Martyrs. It's called L'OEIL DU SILENCE. Check it out when you're in paris. Has anyone heard volume 2 of JACK SMITH's movie soundtracks (featuring angus and future primitives tony conrad)? The first one LES EVENING GOWNS DAMNEES was great. Polly ___________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:12:22 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: circles / chords >someone on the punk list mentioned that there's a comp available by the > late 70s brit band the circles (band that had the great powerpop tune > "opening up") there's a live lp/cd out on detour, is that what you're thinking of? i think it's great, but it's is all live. a bunch of their singles are comped on those *this is mod* series... speaking of revival sounds, someone (finally) booted the fantastic debut lp from the chords! the sound is good, though the volume is kinda low. lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:22:36 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: '60s soul, punk, r&b, beat and gogo chicks in b'klyn tonight! DJ BEN DIESEL and BLURRY MURRAY will be DJing as Miss Alisha and the Brooklyn Cuties Go-Go Dance tonight, January 25th, from 10:00 PM-3:00 at Black Betty's - 366 Metropolitan Avenue. [To get there take the L Train to Lorimer St., Walk west on Metropolitan, under the BQE for a block or two. Black Betty's is on the corner of Metropolitan and Havemeyer St.] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:48:15 -0400 From: nixie nox Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism But it only seems right and natural that a generation rejects its "elders". If they think the 80s were stupid, then maybe something interesting will come out of that snotty attitude. I think most people can't get an expansive/inclusive take on the past until they've grown up a bit. Personally I like to see what some riled up youngsters can get themselves into. And I'm not counting Marilyn Manson. no nixie >I'll admit it... It bothers me when I hear someone tell me that the 80s >scene was stupid. I was there and enjoyed the hell out of it. I saw some >amazing bands, made some great friends, heard some great rock'n'roll, and >had a wonderful time. As much as I love everything that's happened since, I >don't understand what makes it "better" in any way. I'm not saying it's >worse, either, just that every era has its greatness. Shutting yourself out >from any part makes no sense to me. Yeah, there's lots of music in >existence that does nothing for me. But it seems that people just dismiss >the 80s scene without having heard much (if any!) of it. > >Happy to have a snow day, > >Blair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:44:13 -0800 (PST) From: brian marshall Subject: Re: Re:"Collectors" For whatever it's worth..... I collect records because I love to. It's my biggest passion and has been ever since I was around six. (I kid you not.) And I, too, collect records to PLAY them. Unfortunately, I might pass over into "snob" territory because, like a fool, I've paid a few "collector scumbag" prices to get some of the records I want. But with me, you can be sure that that mint- copy of any great rock 'n' roll 45 won't be in that condition for long. Not that I don't take care of my records, mind you, I just feel that records should be played as LOUD and as OFTEN as possible. I've also bought my share of records in way less than perfect shape, but a lot of times they still sound good and powerful. For example, I just got a copy of "Every Day and Every Night" by The Trolls (ABC) and it has a fair amount of distortion from all the play it's gotten. But it STILL kicks a lot of ass and sounds great when you play it loud. Maybe I'll find an upgrade one day, but for now, this copy will do. And when I posted that I got a Richard and the Young Lions promo 45, I hope no one got the impression that I was trying to be snobbish. I'm just a rock 'n' roll fan, that's all. Like I said, for whatever it's worth..... Brian NFTG - --- DCAMPA@austin.rr.com wrote: > > Hey to all in the Bompworld! Tee, Alyssa, and Tom, > ya'll have hit the nail > on the cross about record "collectors" and snobbism. > That's one of the > reasons why I don't consider myself a "collector", > even though I do have a > considerable amount of vinyl. Nearly all of my Lps, > 45s, and cds I buy to > PLAY, the monterary value isn't of that much concern > to me, 'cept in trade > terms (I have gotten some killer deals recently, > too). I guess I'm a > collector in the way I try to find both the > mono and stereo versions of albums. If I dig the > record a lot, I have to > have both versions. Besides, it's fun to compare > the mixes and hear how > alike/different they are from one another. But > if I can't find a 45 or Lp, a cd comp will do just > nicely (and will probably > save a lot of $$$ as well). > Certain things I have bought because they are fun, > have cool covers, or of > historical interest (like > speeches of presidents, music boxes, etc), so they > are some things I don't > play often. But then you > can find something you forget you had and spin it > again. I do despise > record scum types who buy > up 7 copies of a record that have no difference, > never play any of them, > never loan or tape them for > others, and boost that they have "the only known > copies" of whatever. Makes > me sick. Music is to be enjoyed, same goes for > toys, movies, books, etc. > I'd rather pay $5 for a okay shape record > than $30 for a mint copy. In fact, $15 is usually > my limit for a single Lp > (I've only paid $20 or more > twice, I believe). Plus, I like a very electic mix > of stuff, from Eddie > Cantor to Muddy Waters to > the Byrds to the Carter Family. So I can always > find something cool and > cheap out there, I don't confine to genres or > performers or eras. And the > Nuggets set rules the world! > > Signed Texas D.C. > > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 10:49:10 -0800 (PST) From: brian marshall Subject: Re: D.I.Y. series - --- Moparlary@aol.com wrote: > > > yeah, save for a couple of songs, I'd give it a > go... > Moparlary But the first two discs ("The 70s" and "The 80s") are the best. Brian NFTG > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:57:59 -0500 From: "Wojciechowski, Bob" Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2000 #37 > ------------------------------ > > Date: 25 Jan 2000 07:39:31 -0500 > From: "Blair" > Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism > > So many of today's groups worship The Devil > Dogs. Well, they were a damn great band. But The Devil Dogs grew out of > The > Rat Bastards (who, by the way, spent a summer playing as the Surfinks), > all > or most of whom were hanging out on the NYC garage scene before that. ----and some of whom spent time playing in new-wave 'surf' combo, PT109 . .. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:52:46 -0600 From: "Kyle Christians" Subject: Mystery Action That CD is great! I've had it for about a week now, and it's awesome....really great songs, really well played. I agree...it's a must. Kyle ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:16:32 EST From: ARei425705@aol.com Subject: PAGING BOB DUNCAN... Bob, Can you e-mail me off list? Thanks! Ari ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:21:07 +0000 From: boldface@easynet.co.uk Subject: Mojo Magazine Now, some people might think this is cheating - but what the hell! I'm just a few questions away from completing the crossword and figured I may as well get a few extra brains in to help me... Percussion instrument that begins with a bad smell (7) _ _ D _ _ A _ Sugar's second album (7) B _ A _ T _ R ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:17:40 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: Re: Re:"Collectors" - --- Tee wrote: > These people contribute nothing positive to the > scene and act like they're involved a vinyl cock > measuring contest. > > Just my completely unsolicitated two cents. > > Miss Tee I'm so happy to see Miss Tee is back!!!!!1 - --Andrea __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:21:34 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Uhle Subject: Re: "Collectors" Being a long-time record nut, no doubt some on this list would consider me a "Collector," yet I think of myself as a music fan first and foremost. I do enjoy getting original pressings (especially 45s) more than reissues of things, though. One thing about original 45s and Lps (and 78s) that constitutes an important part of the aesthetic experience for me is the context they provide. Seeing the band's phone number printed on the label of an obscure garage 45, or the primitive yet charismatic logo of some long-forgotten entrepreneur gives a much more palpable sense of where the music came from, be it humble or otherwise. Also, holding an object that was "there" in the first place, that some teenager played at a slumber party on a crappy portable phonograph is cool to me. I actually _like_ having records which are less than mint looking (if they play OK) that reveal some of their provenance. Like Monkees Lps with girls' lovestruck scrawl all over them ("Davy DAvy DAVY!"). A reissue can hint at this, but holding an object that has its own history is just more appealing to me. Obviously, there are items which are too expensive or otherwise unobtainable for various reasons, and the music is much more important than the money it would take to get them... I can listen to 20s and 30s jazz, blues and hillbilly music on reissues just fine (though I have a few 78s of that stuff which I cherish), as well as those garage classics that now command hundreds of dollars per 45. Despite my affection for records, there are some "Collector" geeks who crack me up too. I've certainly seen my share of guys with more of a relationship with their record collection than their social circle, or obsessives who lay awake at night because their copy of such and such is only VG ++, not Mint -, but the weirdest to me are the ones who only want stuff that "charted" - it's like music that was not played on the radio somewhere (anywhere) is completely worthless. There is a married couple of this ilk that I see at record shows, middle-aged folks, who have this big 3-ring binder notebook, with neatly typed pages listing every record they need. The man methodically goes through the record bins and reads off each item and the woman looks it up in the big notebook. God knows what kind of music they want, I suspect it's McGuire Sisters and Pat Boone, but this seems so completely lifeless, it makes me gag. (Which leads to my final point,) One of the amazing things about record collecting to me (and I've done it for 25 years), is the stuff that is out there that pops up which is wild as hell, that you have never heard of before. Going through the 50-cent bins, even today, can yield some weird and charming stuff that is not comped and doesn't appear in price guides. Not necessarily garage, but just cool old music, like twist songs about bizarre subjects or freaky instrumentals that don't fit any clear category (not quite surf, not quite rockers). Record collecting is all about the thrill of discovery to me, not the acquisition of yet another label variation of "Introducing the Beatles." If I am still considered a "Collector," then I guess I have to accept that label. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:26:12 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism - --- boldface@easynet.co.uk wrote: > As far as the "garage > scene" is concerned, I'd rather be a small fish in a > big pond than the only > fish in the pond. > That is such a good point!!!!! Nothing worse than living somewhere where NOBODY else is into it!!!! - --Andrea __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:29:53 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism In a message dated 1/25/00 2:28:30 PM Eastern Standard Time, chumley_bear@yahoo.com writes: << That is such a good point!!!!! Nothing worse than living somewhere where NOBODY else is into it!!!! >> I should know...with the exception of my girlfriend I'm the only one here. Another thing is I like to be where there are people into more than justone type of rocknroll. Unfortunately I'm moving, but to a place where most eveyone are punk rockers...with a few 60s garage nerds thrown in here and there. Ah well. EVan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:30:45 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: Re: RE: Record Collectors You know what is physical? Moving shitloads of damn LPs year after year after year . . . esp. if you go across country!!! I definitely like the "compactness" of CDs -- I have no more room for records! - --Andrea - --- Laurent Bigot wrote: > > Here Rob I don't agree. Although I buy CDs I prefer > getting stuff on vinyl > as long as the mastering is well done. I really hate > looking thru cds to buy > them or take em out to play them. It's physical. __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:33:45 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2000 #35 Yeah, and allegedly there really WAS a Mike Hunt who went to college with Matt and Mike of the Royal Pendletons in Bloomington, Indiana, and supposedly Mike asked "has anyone seen Mike Hunt lately" and when everyone was laughing he said "I don't know what's so funny about Mike Hunt!" I have no idea if this is true, but it's really really funny. especially if you are familiar with Mike (Pendletons) manner of speaking, and even more funny if you can imitate him! (And Mr. Hurtt, if you are lurking out there, I mean no harm! i love you! really!) - --Andrea - --- "Epke, Larry" wrote: > > The Mike Hunt was used in the original "Porky's" > movie. A girl receives a > call and pages over the intercom "Has anyone seen > Mike Hunt?" > > Tastefully > Larry Epke > Lepke@thecha.org > > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:40:42 -0600 From: "Bek" Subject: Cali in Feb Hi friends, Anything cool going on for a visitor to Los Angeles and its surrounding vicinities on the weekend of Feb. 11-13? If so, e-mail me offlist, please and thanku. Can't wait to get out of this frozen January shithole called Minnesota. Yeh yeh, Miss Becky ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:42:16 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism Whre you moving to Evan??? - --- SHBEVLON1@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 1/25/00 2:28:30 PM Eastern > Standard Time, > chumley_bear@yahoo.com writes: > > << That is such a good point!!!!! Nothing worse > than > living somewhere where NOBODY else is into it!!!! > >> > I should know...with the exception of my girlfriend > I'm the only one here. > Another thing is I like to be where there are people > into more than justone > type of rocknroll. Unfortunately I'm moving, but to > a place where most > eveyone are punk rockers...with a few 60s garage > nerds thrown in here and > there. Ah well. > EVan > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:48:11 EST From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com Subject: Re: Record Collectors-Scensterism WI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:49:46 CST From: "Mark Ertmer" Subject: Re: stylus damage > >Hmmmm, what are the arguments of direct drive vs. belt drive? I prefer >the direct drive... > I guess one of the problems w/Direct Drive is that you might pick up a little bit of motor noise, but it's never been a real problem for me... Mark Ertmer ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:09:35 CET From: "Sylvain" Subject: "...and you think you're funny ???" (was Re:new stuff out) >Gee Sylvain, >How much hate mail have you gotten for this one? >I'm not offended; I actually get quite a chuckle at >folks to have the balls to poke fun at the sacred cow >that is WWII. . . but I cringe at the backlash!!! eh, that was just a reply/joke related to tobas allusion about switzerland, Hitler, me and my Backyard Babies tastes, nothing more... And I'm sure that WWII is not as much sacred nowadays in Europe than in USA, now that everybody knows that Switzerland and France have not been as neat as the history books taught us concerning the jews persecutions. But fuck, that's another subject, which has nothing to do with the bomp list (and it wasn't my aim to provoque anybody on this list... but US people are sometimes so puritain when it's jokin'time !). Everybody knows now that Switzerland has helped the nazis, by stolen the jewish emigrates that had the wrong idea to hide in that so-called "neutral" land in the 40s....I'd even say that Switzerland discovered her talents in the bank domain after the country has stolen so much money 60 years ago, but that's also another story. Ok, stop kiddin with WWII, I swear it (eh, by the way, it's tobas' fault, only!) next time, it'll be about switzerland only, so that nobody feels outraged on this list (stuff about cows and Heidi that make even the most swissie neutrals laughing when you're jokin bout that). By the way, didn't get that much hate mail after my mail, which is the sign that bompers are cool and don't jump on their Bibles each time something politically incorrect is said on this list ( apart Johnny Carwash the pinhead, but , well, it doesn't count, we all know that certain handicaps make life difficult to understand sometimes) sylvain / switzerland ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:12:20 -0800 (PST) From: Jason M Subject: Re: Cali in Feb - --- Bek wrote: > > Hi friends, > > Anything cool going on for a visitor to Los Angeles > and its surrounding > vicinities on the weekend of Feb. 11-13? Naw, there's nothin' goin on. Southern California sucks. You're better off coming up here in Northern California. - -Jason Mata PS-Just kiddin' all you S. Cal people, although there are way too many people down there... __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2000 15:25:31 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: Fuzztones & x-Bomboras & Bomp! >Jake and Johnny of the x-Bomboras have joined the >Fuzztones. They're playing their first gig as a "new" band here in LA on >March 25th Any chance this bunch of Fuzztones will tour? (Especially to NYC.) Blair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:27:05 -0800 (PST) From: Jason M Subject: Re: "...and you think you're funny ???" (was Re:new stuff out) Please don't take offense at what I'm going to say, but I just figured that your English was bad, and you meant something other than what you had written...you know, I thought that you had left a few words out of your sentence. See ya later. - -Jason Mata - --- Sylvain wrote: > eh, that was just a reply/joke related to tobas > allusion about switzerland, > Hitler, me and my Backyard Babies tastes, nothing > more... And I'm sure that > WWII is not as much sacred nowadays in Europe than > in USA, now that > everybody knows that Switzerland and France have not > been as neat as the > history books taught us concerning the jews > persecutions. But fuck, that's > another subject, which has nothing to do with the > bomp list (and it wasn't > my aim to provoque anybody on this list... but US > people are sometimes so > puritain when it's jokin'time !). Everybody knows > now that Switzerland has > helped the nazis, by stolen the jewish emigrates > that had the wrong idea to > hide in that so-called "neutral" land in the > 40s....I'd even say that > Switzerland discovered her talents in the bank > domain after the country has > stolen so much money 60 years ago, but that's also > another story. Ok, stop > kiddin with WWII, I swear it (eh, by the way, it's > tobas' fault, only!) next > time, it'll be about switzerland only, so that > nobody feels outraged on this > list (stuff about cows and Heidi that make even the > most swissie neutrals > laughing when you're jokin bout that). By the way, > didn't get that much hate > mail after my mail, which is the sign that bompers > are cool and don't jump > on their Bibles each time something politically > incorrect is said on this > list ( apart Johnny Carwash the pinhead, but , > well, it doesn't count, we > all know that certain handicaps make life difficult > to understand sometimes) > sylvain / switzerland > ______________________________________________________ > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: 25 Jan 2000 15:31:10 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: Re: "Collectors"/scenesterism >But it only seems right and natural that a generation rejects its >"elders". Point taken. Still, when I was 18, I was getting turned on to all sort of things via Pebbles, etc. (all of which were certainly elder to me, having been born in late '65.) On the other hand, I wasn't yet as big a fan of some of the 70s punk sounds I now love. But neither did I dismiss them as worthless crap. >If they think the 80s were stupid, then maybe something interesting >will >come out of that snotty attitude. I think most people can't get an >expansive/inclusive take on the past until they've grown up a bit. Definitely true. Blair ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 16:14:47 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: golliwogs photos? anyone have any photos of the golliwogs they could send me a scan of (it's for the dead flowers site). lemme know offlist. thanks... lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 13:23:55 PST From: "tobba andersson" Subject: Re: "...and you think you're neutral ???" Hey Sylvain, Great to see your sense of irony. If you dig the BBs I'll send you a CD with a great new band called the Spitts. You'll love them! Just mail me offlist & I'll slam the CD in the mail at once! Stay cool now, kids... Tobba from the land where "we got polarbears on or street" if ya'll heard the Rude Kids, Swedens best punkband of all times, may they rest in peace! Yo, by the way, check the spelling toBBa, damn it! ZORCH PRODUCTIONS, giving music a bad name since 1989... #0708-570219 e-mail:zorchman@hotmail.com www.24timmar.se/zorch ______________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 14:06:02 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: If You are Ordering Through Amazon.com . . . . . . could you please connect to them through the http://www.saveadog.org site? Save A Dog is a rescue organization I work with, and they get a percentage of the sale from amazon.com, petsmart.com and pets.com. Just another PSA from Andrea! - --Andrea __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 17:17:42 -0500 From: "McGowan, Rob (SD-EX)" Subject: Supersuckers European Tour I am proud to present the dates for The Supersuckers European Tour: Tuesday, 02/15/00 Nantes, France, Olympic Wednesday, 02/16/00 Bordeaux, France, Le Jimmy Thursday, 02/17/00 Barcelona, Spain, Garage Friday, 02/18/00 Bilbao, Spain, Wendolin Saturday, 02/19/00 Montpelier, France, Rockstore Sunday, 02/20/00 Zurich, Switzerland, Abart Tuesday, 02/22/00 Frankfurt, Germany, Koz Wednesday, 02/23/00 Bielefeld, Germany, Forum Thursday, 02/24/00 Koln, Germany, Underground Friday, 02/25/00 Dresden, Germany, Star Club Saturday, 02/26/00 Berlin, Germany, Knaack Sunday, 02/27/00 Arhus, Denmark, Musikcafeen Tuesday, 02/29/00 Copenhagen, Denmark, Loppen Wednesday, 03/01/00 Stockholm, Sweden, Kagelbanan Thursday, 03/02/00 Oslo, Norway, So What Friday, 03/03/00 Helsingborg, Sweden, Tivoli Saturday, 03/04/00 Hamburg, Germany, Molotov Sunday, 03/05/00 Groningen, Netherlands, Vera Tuesday, 03/07/00 Eindhoven, Netherlands, Effenaar Wednesday, 03/08/00 Amsterdam, Holland, Melkweg Thursday, 03/09/00 Kontich, Belgium, Lintfabriek Friday, 03/10/00 London, England, The Garage Saturday, 03/11/00 Nottingham, England, Boat Club Sunday, 03/12/00 Glasgow, Scotland, 13th Note - -Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 18:20:32 -0500 From: "Jeffrey Lemlich" Subject: the worst kind of collectors <> I know one collector geek who just had to have Sonny Bono's solo album after he died... just had to have Roy Rogers (!!) records after he died... yes, grave robber collectors, the same type who hoarded Ricky Nelson records 15 years ago, only to find out the value didn't go up one cent! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:18:05 EST From: Rocroad@aol.com Subject: Re: Masters Apprentices In a message dated 1/25/00 5:04:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << Masters Apprentices compilation that Raven put out many years ago called "Hands of time". It's probably on CD as well by now. >> Check out Tower Records site. As of last week they had it in they're sale section for a little over $8.00. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:34:51 -0000 From: "grooviness" Subject: Re: Mojo Magazine If you win the guitar it's mine! I'm stuck on drum one too but... BEASTER Grooviness - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: 25 January 2000 19:21 Subject: Mojo Magazine > > Now, some people might think this is cheating - but what the hell! I'm just > a few questions away from completing the crossword and figured I may as > well get a few extra brains in to help me... > > > Percussion instrument that begins with a bad smell (7) > > _ _ D _ _ A _ > > > Sugar's second album (7) > > B _ A _ T _ R > > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2000 00:44:58 -0000 From: "grooviness" Subject: Re: The Masters Apprentices I'm in the uk - it looks like they don't really do overseas air ,ail I'll have to source it over here unless you have any other suggestions - would LP still be obtainable? Cheers Grooviness, deep in the gardens of his mind - ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Jenkins To: Sent: 25 January 2000 16:06 Subject: The Masters Apprentices > > "Grooviness," The Masters Apprentices compilation cd "Hands Of Time" > (1965-72) is available at METRO MUSIC. The website is > http://www.metro-music.com > I agree also, the post '67 stuff is heavy, but 65-67................A+! > Hope this helps some. > > Brian Jenkins > http://expage.com/page/garagepsych (THE PSPOT) > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 19:54:51 -0500 From: "Totaro" Subject: Re: Mojo Magazine BODHRAN - -----Original Message----- From: boldface@easynet.co.uk To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 2:19 PM Subject: Mojo Magazine > >Now, some people might think this is cheating - but what the hell! I'm just >a few questions away from completing the crossword and figured I may as >well get a few extra brains in to help me... > > >Percussion instrument that begins with a bad smell (7) > >_ _ D _ _ A _ > > >Sugar's second album (7) > >B _ A _ T _ R > > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 20:11:48 EST From: Schlitze@aol.com Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2000 #37 In reference to elitism: I think that a lot of people in the "scene", beleive that they are special for having discovered some sort of "secret" that most people don't know about. This makes them feel better about themselves. Also alot of people think that most people are complete fucking idiots who don't deserve to hear this, or whatever kind, of music that they hold so dear. I can't say that I totally agree or disagree with either statement. On the one hand, I am usually apalled with the general public. On the other, I am in no way special just cause I don't listen to top 40 bands. Either way, the pretension and snobbism seems to know no bounds. Hell, half the time I don't know what the fuck you people are talking about. I know very, very little about the 80's scene that was mentione. I do know that Peter Buck was on a Fuzztone(or fleshtone I forget) record that I had and I thought that was funny. I am guilty of elitism as everyone surely is to some degree. But I can't help but NOT wa! nt the stupid shit who loves, Pennywise NOFX and BLink182 to know about even the most pop. underground bands. anyones thoughts? I will be away for a week or so, so if you ask any questions or decide to make a whole lot of fun of me then I wont' be able to respond till next mon. at the earliest. ciao nathan. in the end, music is fun and thats what its about. having fun, the rest is bullshit. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 21:45:33 -0500 From: "Mike Markesich" Subject: Posts To Posts... I see the old record pressing and collector posts have livened things up here lately... Someone asked for a good cartridge: I myself sing the praises of Ortofon - great sound, and you can get a decent cartridge and stylus for $50. I would avoid Stanton - I tried various makes and models, and the expensive ones couldn't match lesser priced Ortofon models. Even the Ortofon P-Mount model (where you simply plug in the cartridge on turntable models noted with the T4P emblem - usually cheaper belt-drive turntables) sound great. To get really anal: if you have a worn record, and you can purchase, or have the ability to change the stylus or cartridge, you should use a conical (round) stylus. This stylus tracks the groove in the center, and doesn't pick up the distortion that an eliptical stylus would (the top and bottom of the groove). The tradeoff is flat highs (loss of treble) and a boomy sound akin to a jukebox type speaker. Of course, this is recommended if you have wrecked records, or 45's that have a bad hiss due to excessive wear or a poor pressing. One reason why a mint record (styrene) wears after only 5 or so spins is the fact that the cartridge must be properly aligned - placed at the proper spot on the tonearm, and counterbalanced with proportionate anti-skating. If you've got a P-mount tonearm, all you have to do is set the tracking force on the tonearm. I recommend no less than 1.5 grams of weight - 2 grams is better. Less weight on a stylus does more damage than too much weight. As to collector "snobs" - I don't believe I've seen one post to that aspect since I've been on (June '99). I know a few collector pals who think I'm wasting my time by posting to a list of "scenesters". I simply enjoy sharing information, and I don't mind being told if I come across as too "expertian" in certain areas. I always believe that everyone should have the same kind of resources and information available, so that he/she doesn't waste effort with errant information. Greg Shaw had commented to me that he enjoyed my posts, and wished other collectors would join, but those guys simply do not care. As for the comment that a 21 year old is too young to play garage - that's thee most inane thing I've heard! I kinda chuckle when I read about some people my age who were into the "scene" in the 80's, but have "moved" on, and think all of the newer bands playing Chocolate Watchband cuts or "Psychotic Reaction" sum up a big waste of time. Stupid analogy here, but "Garage" or any genre of music is like a train: you get on, then get off. The Train does not stand still for you alone - it keeps moving. So does one's taste for music - If you are one who has moved on, so be it, but negative criticism toward neophytes or those "still on the train" is elist snobbery of the highest order - higher than that of guys who catalog matrix numbers. Preachily yers, Mop Top Mike ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2000 #38 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com