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bomp-digest        Thursday, January 27 2000        Volume 2000 : Number 042



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The following subjects are included in this digest:
   PJ's stereogram
     "Mojo" <shindig@groovin.screaming.net>
   Muddy Waters & Son House
     "Coleman, Steve" <Steve.Coleman@plc.cwplc.com>
   Solar Flares
     boldface@easynet.co.uk
   Calling all Londoners
     "Mojo" <shindig@groovin.screaming.net>
   Re:  Re: golliwogs photos?
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re:  Re: golliwogs photos?
     SoundViews@aol.com
   RE: bomp-digest V2000 #40
     "Epke, Larry" <LEpke@thecha.org>
   stero vs mono 
     "Phil Clark" <phil-c@dircon.co.uk>
   Re: Sin City Disciples
     AlisaLove2@aol.com
   Falling Archies
     Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com>
   RE: VOX-GUITARS?
     Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com>
   RE: Re: golliwogs photos?
     "Canale, Deena" <DCanale@queenslibrary.org>
   Flower City Pop comp and Flipped Out
     "shawn." <poser@baynet.net>
   Morbid record collecting query
     "Canale, Deena" <DCanale@queenslibrary.org>
   heat
     Andies Candies <chumley_bear@yahoo.com>
   Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music
     Andies Candies <chumley_bear@yahoo.com>
   RE: VOX-GUITARS?
     "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
   Re: Muddy Waters - Library of Congress
     pekka.laine@yle.fi
   Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music
     chiswick@casema.net
   Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music
     "James Bond" <jamesbondx@hotmail.com>
   RE: Sin City Disciples
     "Lisa Rickenberg" <wiretap@nwlink.com>
   TIMELESS GODS! update
     Timelessgods@aol.com
   Re: Re: golliwogs photos?
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Collector shit
     Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com>
   Re:  Morbid record collecting query
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Compacting yer discs.
     Logie <jxl25@psu.edu>
   Re: stero vs mono 
     DCAMPA@austin.rr.com
   Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music
     Patrick Robinson <patrickrobinson@yahoo.com>
   Re: more early Muddy...
     DCAMPA@austin.rr.com
   RE: VOX-GUITARS?
     Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com>
   Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music
     DCAMPA@austin.rr.com
   RUB MY ROOT
     ARei425705@aol.com
   Re: RE: bomp-digest V2000 #40
     ARei425705@aol.com
   MUDDY'S HOOKER!
     ARei425705@aol.com
   stero vs mono LYSERGICALLY ALTERED
     ARei425705@aol.com
   Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music
     ARei425705@aol.com
   musical timelines (was Re: tricking "goths" into...)
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re:  musical timelines (was Re: tricking "goths" into...)
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re: stero vs mono LYSERGICALLY ALTERED
     Jason M <jamigmat@yahoo.com>

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:48:05 -0000
From: "Mojo" <shindig@groovin.screaming.net>
Subject: PJ's stereogram

PJ: <<And why is it that
the radio on this can pick up stations from half way across Europe when my
stereo has difficulty in getting a decent reception for BBC Radio 4? >>

** Cuz you only paid £60 for a cheapo Midi system.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:07:55 -0000
From: "Coleman, Steve" <Steve.Coleman@plc.cwplc.com>
Subject: Muddy Waters & Son House

Much thanks to Frank and Blue DJC for recommending the early Muddy Waters
and Son House recordings.  FYI, the CD is on Disque Blue and features around
twenty four tracks by Muddy & Son.  There is also a companion disc called
"Muddy Waters - Aristocrat of the Blues" which features his first recordings
for the Chess brothers (Aristocrat label) in 1946-7.  The thing that strikes
me about both jackets is how damn regal Muddy looked as a young man.   He
sure was a handsome fella!  Both CDs are mentioned in the current edition of
Mojo should anyone else be interested be interested in digging them out.

Steve

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:11:20 +0000
From: boldface@easynet.co.uk
Subject: Solar Flares

Don't forget! Anyone in the vicinity of old London town....

get yourself down to the Dirty Water Club

this Friday night, 28 January, 8.30pm till 2.00am

for The SOLAR FLARES (ex-Prisoners, Prime Movers, etc)

with support from Bronco Bullfrog and The Surrounds.

At The Boston, Junction Road N19 - Tufnell Park station

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:32:56 -0000
From: "Mojo" <shindig@groovin.screaming.net>
Subject: Calling all Londoners

Tomorrow night @ The Boston Arms, Tuffnel Park Dome, Tuffnel Park The
Surrounds (Freakbeat featuring ex-Quant members), Bronco Bullfrog
(Technicolour Power Pop to brighten up your day) and The Solar Flares
(Ex-Prisoners Garage/Punk/Psych stormers) play from 8:30 onwards.

A highly recommended night. Shindig! Approved.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:54:41 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: golliwogs photos?

that's the photo i'm looking for -- i need a can of it...


lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:54:56 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: golliwogs photos?

that shoulda read "scan." hahaha...

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:02:03 -0600
From: "Epke, Larry" <LEpke@thecha.org>
Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2000 #40

On the subject of Muddy Waters' early recordings.  

Although the MCA release contains more Muddy, the Document reissue is
valuable too, since it contains the earliest records Muddy was on in
Chicago, as a sideman for other musicians.  These were using electric
guitar.  

Among the recordings on there is the only single released by Baby Face
Leroy.  (A version of "Slipping & A Sliding", wasn't it?)  

Larry Epke 
Lepke@thecha.org 

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:38:23 -0000
From: "Phil Clark" <phil-c@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: stero vs mono 

folks

item #1 stereo vs mono mixes
someone said : "Kudos to whom mentioned finding both mono and stereo
versions of albums,  especially records from '67-'68. I'm going to get into
some mainstream stuff
here so maybe I'll get chastised by the hard-core garage fans; "The Who
Sells
Out" is a prime example of viewing a record from two different perspectives.
Dunno how many of you like early Hendrix, but the monos of "Are You
Experienced" and "Axis..." are a lot of fun..."

i agree. another good one is the first floyd album (piper @ the gates). the
mono vs stereo versions are quite different. for example, on most tracks on
the mono, suddenly there's a whole different instrumentation!

" It seems that Europe went about a year longer with the mono
format than the states did. "

we did indeed. i'd say until 1969. in fact in the first part of the 60s,
when stereo was not widespread at all in the uk, there were often no stereo
mixes of albums, or if there were, they were just done as an afterthought.

my band the dilemmas are pondering reviving this idea and doing a different
mono and a stereo mix of forthcoming records, and issuing both. if studio
budget allows of course!

groovily
phil dilemma

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:54:51 EST
From: AlisaLove2@aol.com
Subject: Re: Sin City Disciples

Thanks!!

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Date: 27 Jan 2000 06:51:57 -0800
From: Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com>
Subject: Falling Archies

Have any of you Boston based Bomp-l'rs heard of the Falling Archies.  I was mixing down some tapes at a studio in Somerville and the engineer had been working on a project with a "couple of old hands" under the Falling Archies.  He said they had been on scene since the beginning of time and that this was their first collaborative effort.  Possibly Willie Loco, Walter Powers, J. Richmond….I dunno.  Anyone heard the same.?

- -m


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Date: 27 Jan 2000 06:53:50 -0800
From: Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com>
Subject: RE: VOX-GUITARS?

I could not find them in the shops but got it off a dealer via their Website.  I paid about $1200, for a black phantom reissue.  Looks cool as shit!!!!


- -m

On Wed, 26 January 2000, "Lindholm, Jeffrey" wrote:

> 
> 
> Just curious, are we talking about one of the teardrop-shaped ones? And if
> so, what's the range they're charging at the shops for them (as opposed to
> the listed price in catalogs)?????
> 
> Jeffery Lindholm
> jrl6b@virginia.edu
> University of Virginia
> Health System Communications
> 


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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:07:34 -0500
From: "Canale, Deena" <DCanale@queenslibrary.org>
Subject: RE: Re: golliwogs photos?

The afro photo appears in the Nuggets box set book, but I suppose that one
is too small for good scanning.

Signed D.C. 

- -----Original Message-----
From: SoundViews@aol.com
To: bomp@xnet2.com
Sent: 01/27/2000 8:54 AM
Subject: Re:  Re: golliwogs photos?


that shoulda read "scan." hahaha...

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:20:10 -0500
From: "shawn." <poser@baynet.net>
Subject: Flower City Pop comp and Flipped Out

I've heard a couple of songs off of the Flower City Pop comp (The Sunnyside
Ups "Bop De Da" is really good) and wondered if it's worth picking up and
who is distro'ing it.  

also, there was talk that Flipped Out would have a new radio show in
Toronto.  has this happened yet?  if so, what station?

shawn.(back to lurking)


Johnny Can't Read 'Zine
http://www.baynet.net/~poser/home.htm
Remember kids: The trick to surviving 
jail is to kick someone's ass the first 
day or become someone's bitch.

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:24:20 -0500
From: "Canale, Deena" <DCanale@queenslibrary.org>
Subject: Morbid record collecting query

Dunno what made me muse on this question...perhaps it was the observations
about how rock star deaths cause memorial sale rack-ups.  But I was just
wondering whether you serious record collectors have thought about what
you're going to do with your records once you kick the bucket.  Will you
will them to your hipster heirs?  Donate them to a sound recording archive
or cool non-profit radio station?  Pass them on to that great Goodwill or
garage sale in the sky?  Or make like Ronnie Dawson in "Rockin' Bones" and
bury them with you King Tut style?

Mourning becomes eccentric,
Deena

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:33:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Andies Candies <chumley_bear@yahoo.com>
Subject: heat

- --- fbrandon <cosmopop@prodigy.net> wrote:
> 
> mike---five years in a house without heat in
> seattle??? i spent a lot of
> years there and one winter would've done me in with
> no heat---save money on
> heat; buy records---i get it...

I lived in an attic in Cambridge, Mass. w/out heat for
a year.  Ah, rent control!

- --Andrea
__________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 07:40:44 -0800 (PST)
From: Andies Candies <chumley_bear@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music

Some of what is called goth music now is nothing like
the stuff that got labeled goth when I was a teenager
(and I was kind of a goth, I guess).  Bauhaus I
consider a great glam band.  They got tagged goth. 
We've listened to Bats in the Bellfrey on college
radio a few times, and if the music isn't industrial
or trance music, the stuff with male vocals all sounds
like Xymox, and the stuff with female vocals sounds
like Xmal Deutschland!  Just my thoughts. . . 

Anyway, I went from new wave/mod to goth/mod/punk to
hardcore/punk to psychobilly/punk to
surf/rockabilly/garage to wherever I am today
(unclassifiable?), so there's hope for your
bandmates!!!  As you can tell, though, I was usually
open to different kinds of music.

- --Andrea

- --- "BlackMonk (Tom,as always)"
<blackmonk@email.msn.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> >But beyond that what else is there. They complain
> it all sounds like music
> >their parents would listen to. (We are all between
> 16 and 19 years old)
> 
> Grandparents maybe. Depending on when your parents
> got together, they might
> have been listening to Bauhaus and Joy Division.
> Didn't Bauhaus do a few
> garage-ish covers? I remember hearing a boot where
> they did a version of The
> Strangeloves "In The Night Time." And Telegram Sam,
> of course. Or you could
> play Bela Lugosi's Dead back to back with I Wanna Be
> Your Dog. Then tie it
> in to the Velvet Underground via John Cale.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
__________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:44:22 -0500
From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
Subject: RE: VOX-GUITARS?

What dealer? 

Jeffery Lindholm
jrl6b@virginia.edu
University of Virginia
Health System Communications

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Mark Robinson [SMTP:999@techemail.com]
> Sent:	Thursday, January 27, 2000 09:54 AM
> To:	bomp@xnet2.com
> Subject:	RE: VOX-GUITARS?
> 
> 
> I could not find them in the shops but got it off a dealer via their
> Website.  I paid about $1200, for a black phantom reissue.  Looks cool as
> shit!!!!
> 
> 
> -m
> 
> On Wed, 26 January 2000, "Lindholm, Jeffrey" wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > Just curious, are we talking about one of the teardrop-shaped ones? And
> if
> > so, what's the range they're charging at the shops for them (as opposed
> to
> > the listed price in catalogs)?????
> > 
> > Jeffery Lindholm
> > jrl6b@virginia.edu
> > University of Virginia
> > Health System Communications
> > 
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 17:42:50 +0200
From: pekka.laine@yle.fi
Subject: Re: Muddy Waters - Library of Congress

Hey

Get'em all , like right now. Muddy's stuff is essential. It's strictly delta,
little "young sounding" but he's style is cooking already. Better than the tunes
he cut
for  Okeh between these recordings and Aristocrat. Son House is heavier stuff.
Muddy sounds younger and little light weight compared to him.
Son House 1940-42 is the kind of delta blues that scares you shitless and
captivates you at the same time.
I haven't heard ANY Hound Dog Taylor not worth buying.  All Alligator albums for
example are just mind blowing.
and give me back my wig is a trip indeed.

Pekka Laine

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 16:45:37 +0100
From: chiswick@casema.net
Subject: Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music

 ------------------------------
> Thu, 27 Jan 2000 05:31:36 GMT "Gothadelic FreakOut" 
<gothadelicfreakout@hotmail.com> wrote;

> I have a problem. I have found myself playing in a sort shit house rock band 
> with a bunch of goths. They dont seem to mind that song by that European
> group on Battle of the Garages 2 "Hounted House"

This is great !, my pal Michel was in the band who did this song 
(the Other Side) and at the time they used every interview 
opportunity to proclaim their dislike for goths. I've forwarded him 
this msg, and boy, is he gonna enjoy the fact that those very same 
specimens now enjoy his masterpiece !.

Jeroen

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:13:52 PST
From: "James Bond" <jamesbondx@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music

I'm sure they would dig "I'm a Living Sickness" - specially the Fuzztones 
version...actually the 'Tones were kinda Goth-cheeze for awhile there...have 
some viedo where they try to be Cramps-y but look more like Gothcheezee.

James B.
______________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 08:21:09 -0800
From: "Lisa Rickenberg" <wiretap@nwlink.com>
Subject: RE: Sin City Disciples

I have an lp, a couple of singles, and a tape of live stuff, none of which
really does them justice, but if you'd like dubs of any of them, let me
know...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-bomp@xnet2.com [mailto:owner-bomp@xnet2.com]On Behalf Of
> AlisaLove2@aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 11:56 AM
> To: bomp@xnet2.com
> Subject: Sin City Disciples
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any of their recordings.  I rediscovered a tape
> with them on
> it, remembered how good they are, and the tape broke in the
> middle of a song.
>  Any help is greatly appreciated!!
>
> Thanks
> Alisa
>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:48:42 EST
From: Timelessgods@aol.com
Subject: TIMELESS GODS! update

The following review was posted in the ROCK CRITIC 101 section.

THE HATEBOMBS "Hunt You Down" by EVAN W.

Angus "thee anti-hipster" McWhorter
TIMELESS GODS!
100% quality assured rock-n-roll
timelessgods@hotmail.com
                  www.angelfire.com/ks/timelessgods

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:57:28 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: golliwogs photos?

> The afro photo appears in the Nuggets box set book, but I suppose 
> that one is too small for good scanning.

it would probably work, though i don't want to bend the book up to get it to 
fit in my scanner...

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 09:15:50 -0800
From: Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com>
Subject: Collector shit

Frank Brandon wrote:

>i used to go to a used magazine store in the tenderloin in sf in the early
>70's and i scored lots of stuff---the best singles always had LAKO chiseled
>into the label---whoever LAKO was, he (she?) had great taste, lots of discs
>and the uncanny ability to dig deeply into plastic without going through

I have TONS of "Laka" 45s from my collecting days in SF. Yeah, the guy had
great taste, either that or he was an early gang leader who hadn't
discovered spray paint yet! But what a collection he must've had. In the
early '60s I met a few older collectors, greasers in fact, who had enormous
numbers of old 45s. I bought and traded with some of these guys. Lako
may've been one of them. Perhaps he died in Vietnam and his family dumped
thousands of his 45s at the Goodwill?

Another record collecting mystery...

Greg

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:23:37 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Morbid record collecting query

> Dunno what made me muse on this question...perhaps it was the observations
> about how rock star deaths cause memorial sale rack-ups.  But I was just
> wondering whether you serious record collectors have thought about what
> you're going to do with your records once you kick the bucket.  Will you
> will them to your hipster heirs?  Donate them to a sound recording archive
> or cool non-profit radio station?  Pass them on to that great Goodwill or
> garage sale in the sky?  Or make like Ronnie Dawson in "Rockin' Bones" and
> bury them with you King Tut style?

i've actually given this some serious thought, why, i don't know as i'm not 
planning on dying for a while. anyway, i've come up with nothing except that 
one or two will be buried with me and records that one or two close friends 
have coveted over the years will be left to them, assuming i out live 'em...

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:55:48 -0600
From: Logie <jxl25@psu.edu>
Subject: Compacting yer discs.

>
>Some mobile DJs buy a system where they use plastic sleeves to hold the
>discs with liner notes. You have to use the included cutter to make the
>tray card spine fit into their system, and you have to buy their pricey
>sleeves, but DJs like it because they can carry triple the CDs in the same
>box. I don't think you collector types are looking forward to destroying
>all of your CD packaging though.

OR . . .

Call BAGS UNLIMITED (they're on the web)

Order yourself a bunch of the SCDGF4 vinyl CD pouches. They are CHEAP 
(five or six cents each if you buy 'em in bulk).

DON'T cut up that tray card spine (the "J" card, as industry wonks 
call it). Instead, stick it in the right pocket of the pouch, and 
GENTLY fold the sides of the "J" card down, with the CD on top of it. 
(This way, should you ever wish to "repackage" the CD, you can simply 
reverse the process and place it back into a jewel case.

Stick the booklet in the booklet in the left pouch.

2 CD set? No problem, stick the second CD behind the booklet.

. . . and . . . VOILA! Cheap, space-saving, and remarkably LP-like CD 
storage. (The CDs end up looking like little LPs  in little vinyl 
sleeves.)

The down side -- this "flattens" the spines, so a horizontal shelf 
full of CDs is difficult to read . . . but so were LP spines if you 
think about it -- I now store my CDs in drawers with the spines up, 
and handy little divider cards reflecting my anal retentive 
alphabetization scheme. Also, the vinyl sleeves do NOT protect the 
CDs as much as jewel boxes (though they're BETTER when it comes to 
spills of soda or booze).  You CAN fold the jackets and J cards if 
you don't exercise a tiny measure of care.

OK, maybe this ain't for everyone -- but it might be for you. Bags 
Unlimited will send you free samples and a free catalog.

And, if you're really lucky, mebbe the guys down at the local used 
record store will let you trade in all your old jewel boxes for a 
copy of that 7-disc Funhouse sessions box set.

So there!

- -Logie

P.S. No, I don't get a cut of Bags Unlimited's take. Wish I did.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:26:13 -0800
From: DCAMPA@austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: stero vs mono 

Phil said:

> someone said : "Kudos to whom mentioned finding both mono and stereo
> versions of albums,  especially records from '67-'68.

Hey, just to let ya'll know that it was Lee that was responding to my
original post.  And I agree w/both of ya'll, some of these mixes are
radically different.  (Lee, remember we talked about some
of the mono versions you listed @ the Grind?)  Also, songs like the
Chocolate Watchband's "Let's
About Girls" are an entirely different experience in mono and stereo.  Some
other records that are
quite distinct in mono and stereo: The Beatles' "Revolver", The Byrds'
"Younger Than Yesterday"
and "The Notorious Byrd Bros", and Mancini's soundtrack to "Breakfast at
Tiffany's."  (not rocknroll, but still great).

> we did indeed. i'd say until 1969. in fact in the first part of the 60s,
> when stereo was not widespread at all in the uk, there were often no
stereo
> mixes of albums, or if there were, they were just done as an afterthought.

'tis true, as the White Album and the SF Sorrow both came out @ the end of
1968, when mono
mixes of Lps in the U.S. were pretty much being phased out.  There were
however, mono singles
into the early seventies, as I have some country singles from this era which
have the stereo version
on one side and the mono mix on the other.

> my band the dilemmas are pondering reviving this idea and doing a
different
> mono and a stereo mix of forthcoming records, and issuing both. if studio
> budget allows of course!

That'd be great!  A couple of years ago, this local rockabilly gal, Marti
(Browen? can't remember her last name), came out w/this deluxe package.  It
contained her latest record in mono and stereo
versions: the stereo mix was on the cd, and the mono was on the 45s (like it
should be).  Most of
Holly GoLightly's solo Lps and singles are in mono (one reason they sound so
good), as a quite
a few recent garage/punk 45s and Lps.  Yeah!

A one-channel mind,

Dennis

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 10:21:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Patrick Robinson <patrickrobinson@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music

seek out the Strangeloves.  they did original versions
of "i want candy" (bow wow wow)  and "night time"
(bauhaus).  also look for the Scientists and Gun Club.
 in fact, there are severeal bands who have enough of
the evil to cross over to the dark side.  
   pink floyd (with barrett)
   the morlocks
   cramps
   stooges and iggy pop
   rolling stones
   doors
   the brood
   cynics
   fuzztones  
   pere ubu
	i could go on and on.  i am sure there are others on
the list who will present others.  
	as a point of arguement to the band mates, point out
the sky cries mary covered the stooges and the stones.
 and of course there is siouxsie & the banshees record
of all covers.  tell them to get with the program. 

					PATRICK g. ROBINson
					 BURN DENVER DOWN

> I have a problem. I have found myself playing in a
> sort shit house rock band 
> with a bunch of goths. It isnt the 60s garage band
> thing I want but it is 
> all i can find.
> Three weeks into this synth pop punk david bowie
> fest and it is getting 
> rather irritating. Can anyone think of any 60s tunes
> (or bomp related) that 
> those sort of people could get into. They dont seem
> to mind the gravedigger 
> 5, and that song by that European group on Battle of
> the Garages 2 "Hounted 
> House"
> But beyond that what else is there. They complain it
> all sounds like music 
> their parents would listen to. (We are all between
> 16 and 19 years old)
 
   
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:32:51 -0800
From: DCAMPA@austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: more early Muddy...

Larry, are you referring to the sides that Muddy did in 1946 for Columbia?
He also did lead vocals
on three tracks @ this same session, which weren't issued for about twenty
five years or so.  Great
stuff, btw.  I belive there's a song from this session called "Atomic Bomb
Blues" by Homer Harris.

Dennis J.

 Although the MCA release contains more Muddy, the Document reissue is
> valuable too, since it contains the earliest records Muddy was on in
> Chicago, as a sideman for other musicians.  These were using electric
> guitar.

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Date: 27 Jan 2000 10:28:48 -0800
From: Mark Robinson <999@techemail.com>
Subject: RE: VOX-GUITARS?

On Thu, 27 January 2000, "Lindholm, Jeffrey" wrote:

On Thu, 27 January 2000, "Lindholm, Jeffrey" wrote:
Rhoades Music....got the name of the dealer from the www.voxshowroom.com site.  Highly recommend the dealer.  Shipped as promised plus he loves Vox's as much as I do.  As for going out of tune.  I just had a five hour thrash session on mine and it held up well.  Even with a couple of strings breaking and whammying my brains out I had no problem with keeping it tune.

- -m

> 
> 
> What dealer? 
> 
> Jeffery Lindholm
> jrl6b@virginia.edu
> University of Virginia
> Health System Communications
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:Mark Robinson [SMTP:999@techemail.com]
> > Sent:Thursday, January 27, 2000 09:54 AM
> > To:bomp@xnet2.com
> > Subject:RE: VOX-GUITARS?
> > 
> > 
> > I could not find them in the shops but got it off a dealer via their
> > Website.  I paid about $1200, for a black phantom reissue.  Looks cool as
> > shit!!!!
> > 
> > 
> > -m
> > 
> > On Wed, 26 January 2000, "Lindholm, Jeffrey" wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Just curious, are we talking about one of the teardrop-shaped ones? And
> > if
> > > so, what's the range they're charging at the shops for them (as opposed
> > to
> > > the listed price in catalogs)?????
> > > 
> > > Jeffery Lindholm
> > > jrl6b@virginia.edu
> > > University of Virginia
> > > Health System Communications
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 12:40:07 -0800
From: DCAMPA@austin.rr.com
Subject: Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music

Andrea said:

> Anyway, I went from new wave/mod to goth/mod/punk to
> hardcore/punk to psychobilly/punk to
> surf/rockabilly/garage to wherever I am today
> (unclassifiable?), so there's hope for your
> bandmates!!!  As you can tell, though, I was usually
> open to different kinds of music.

Wow!  Quite a lot of groovy stuff there!  I consider meself quite
unclassifiable as well.  I guess I went from Beatles/Rolling Stones to
Classical to Dr. Demento type stuff to Velvets/Love/Stooges
to early blues to early blues/country/jazz to 20s/30s pop/dance bands to
surf/garage/punk, etc.
(While during this whole time grooving to lotsa different stuff).

As far as getting goths to do some groovy stuff, play for them the "Sin
Alley" that has lotsa monster
and graveyard songs on it.  Find as much graveyard stuff as possible!

Signed D.C. (speaking of which, that song has a graveyard reference in it!)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:42:42 EST
From: ARei425705@aol.com
Subject: RUB MY ROOT

RE: MUDDY WATERS


I have the Pink Finks version of "Rub My Root", which claims Muddy as the 
writer. I've never been able to track down HIS version tho'.....anyone know 
what record it's on and how I can snatch up a copy? Same goes for "Look What 
You've Done" (I believe the Stones do it on "December's Children")
Thanks!
Ari

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:43:05 EST
From: ARei425705@aol.com
Subject: Re: RE: bomp-digest V2000 #40

 

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:45:34 EST
From: ARei425705@aol.com
Subject: MUDDY'S HOOKER!

In case any Muddy Fans don't already know, there's a superb LP called JOHN 
LEE HOOKER at the Cafe a Go Go, which features Muddy and his entire band as 
backup musicians....very cool to hear Muddy's slide playing behind Hooker's 
bizarre picking style!
Ari

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 13:55:55 EST
From: ARei425705@aol.com
Subject: stero vs mono LYSERGICALLY ALTERED

I prefer mono for 50's Rock N Roll and Garage, since it's basically 3 chords 
on full throttle....seems more powerful and hard hitting when all the music 
comes out of both speakers instead of being cut in two...yet I definitely 
think stereo is the way to go for psych! Especially if you're listening while 
chemically induced!  I love hearing instruments come form one side of the 
room and then others come from somewhere beyond! 
Dunno if anyone out there indulges in  Lysergic substances anymore, but if 
so, I'd be very curious to hear what you think are the best records to hear 
while stoned (and Pot does count)! My top 5:
1. S.F. SORROW/PARACHUTE-PRETTY THINGS (tie)
2. PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN- PINK FLOYD
3. ONE NATION UNDERGROUND/BALAKLAVE-PEARLS BEFORE SWINE (tie)
4. BRAINDROPS-FUZZTONES
5. SEDUCTION - LINK PROTRUDI & THE JAYMEN

Runner up:
MORAY EELS EAT THE HOLY MODAL ROUNDERS

WORD TO THE WISE:
When listening under the influence, CDs are the way to go....unless you've 
got absolutely pristine vinyl, the crackling will drive you INSANE!!!!!
Ari

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:05:30 EST
From: ARei425705@aol.com
Subject: Re: tricking "goths" into liking good music

First , play 'em Naz Nomad & The Nightmares, making sure they know that it's 
The Damned....then play 'em the Cramps, then some of the more "spooky" stuff 
by The Fuzztones ("Monster A Go Go" LP), then round it off with ROKY ERIKSONS 
stuff with the Aliens....
Ari

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:06:12 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: musical timelines (was Re: tricking "goths" into...)

> Wow!  Quite a lot of groovy stuff there!  I consider meself quite
> unclassifiable as well.  I guess I went from Beatles/Rolling Stones to
>  Classical to Dr. Demento type stuff to Velvets/Love/Stooges to early
> blues to early blues/country/jazz to 20s/30s pop/dance bands to
> surf/garage/punk, etc.
> (While during this whole time grooving to lotsa different stuff).

this i find interesting!

my musical timeline goes kinda like this:

the beatles, the beatles, the beatles (i was obsessed as a child) to '60s 
rock and culture in general, some soul and a bit of '50s rock; then hardcore 
and a bit of metal (judas priest, iron maiden, etc.) to '70s punk-rock, more 
hardcore and Oi! -- i never stopped liking the '60s stuff, just took a break 
for my "angry years" -- to a whole hodge-podge of the previously mentioned 
musics, then back to '60s music *heavily*, especially after a "heartbreak," 
with a bigger focus on more obscure bands and soul, leading into garage-punk 
a la *pebbles* and *back from the grave*.

oh yeah, i heavily grooved on hip hop for a good part of the early/mid-'80s; 
and my whole life has been jazz-filled -- mainly bebop and jazz vocalists -- 
as my dad's a huge collector and lifelong fan (i got all his vinyl when he 
switched to cds!), though he also gave me my first beatles, stones, kinks, 
the band, jefferson airplane, etc. lps. there's lots more i dig too, like old 
country, old folk, some classical, some modern rap (the harder stuff), to 
oddities like rickie lee jones, death in june, steeley dan, lyrnard skynard 
and so on.

i've never considered myself part of any scene (though i've dabbled in a 
few), just a obsessed music lover...

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 14:11:46 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re:  musical timelines (was Re: tricking "goths" into...)

> i've never considered myself part of any scene (though i've
> dabbled in a  few), just a obsessed music lover...

and practitioner of bad grammer!

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2000 11:19:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Jason M <jamigmat@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: stero vs mono LYSERGICALLY ALTERED

Speaking of using drugs among psych collectors, I
write music reviews for the school newspaper
(University of California, Santa Cruz) and was
wondering how many people who collect psych actually
use drugs while listening to music? My asumption is
that a great majority of the people don't. I just
wanted to make a point in one of my articles, but I
thought that I'd take a poll first.
If you don't feel comfortable posting it on this list,
please email me off-list. Thanks. As for me, I have
used and listened, but not in a while (more than a
year). Here are some of my favorites.

1. Gandalf-S/T -those chimes used to make my ears go
wacky.
2. Tea Company-S/T -there's a song with something
splashing around in water, and when I first bought the
album and heard it (while under the influence), I
thought my roomates fish was having a seizure in the
fish tank!
3. Pink Floyd-Piper & fiirst couple songs on
"saucerful"
4. Christopher-S/T -Not the "Watcha Gonna Do?" group
5. Group 1850-Agemos Trip to mother earth
Some other songs that I like are the Skip Spence song
"War in Peace", and the first song on side A of the
Pink Floyd's soundtrack to the film "More" casuse I
dig those birds chirping like it's sunrise or
somethin'.
See ya, I look forward to hearin' from ya.
- -Jason Mata
- --- ARei425705@aol.com wrote:
> 
> I prefer mono for 50's Rock N Roll and Garage, since
> it's basically 3 chords 
> on full throttle....seems more powerful and hard
> hitting when all the music 
> comes out of both speakers instead of being cut in
> two...yet I definitely 
> think stereo is the way to go for psych! Especially
> if you're listening while 
> chemically induced!  I love hearing instruments come
> form one side of the 
> room and then others come from somewhere beyond! 
> Dunno if anyone out there indulges in  Lysergic
> substances anymore, but if 
> so, I'd be very curious to hear what you think are
> the best records to hear 
> while stoned (and Pot does count)! My top 5:
> 1. S.F. SORROW/PARACHUTE-PRETTY THINGS (tie)
> 2. PIPER AT THE GATES OF DAWN- PINK FLOYD
> 3. ONE NATION UNDERGROUND/BALAKLAVE-PEARLS BEFORE
> SWINE (tie)
> 4. BRAINDROPS-FUZZTONES
> 5. SEDUCTION - LINK PROTRUDI & THE JAYMEN
> 
> Runner up:
> MORAY EELS EAT THE HOLY MODAL ROUNDERS
> 
> WORD TO THE WISE:
> When listening under the influence, CDs are the way
> to go....unless you've 
> got absolutely pristine vinyl, the crackling will
> drive you INSANE!!!!!
> Ari
> 
__________________________________________________

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