From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #6 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Wednesday, January 3 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 006 This the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Spar/Hit continued: Music City Soul! "Jeffrey Lemlich" Instore performances wanted in Brooklyn. "Chris Polinsky" SF Sorrow in the garage; the Wild Thing on Elektra "John Trembly" Re: NZ and Aussie beat Rocky Serkowney Re: sf sorrow in the garage "Linda" Re:NYC Rock 'N' Roll Convention/Show Feb 16 & 17 Nancyneon01@aol.com Re: SF Sorrow in the garage Euphorik6@aol.com los shakers movie? Euphorik6@aol.com Re: Re: Trouser Press LPs/Sleepers of the 70s? "Linda" Re:The Hunchbacked Men Nancyneon01@aol.com Re: bomp-digest V2001 #5 TwigYoungLions@aol.com Re: NZ and Aussie beat TSanc43763@aol.com Re: los shakers movie? TSanc43763@aol.com Re: Joe Meek Favorites TSanc43763@aol.com Re: Re:The Hunchbacked Men "Raymond Tucker" Re: los shakers movie? Hitomi I Super Unexpected Coolness Jason Mata Re: Super Unexpected Coolness "Lenny Smith" Re: [Garage66] Super Unexpected Coolness Rat Pfink Re: bomp-digest V2001 #5 ARei425705@aol.com Il Geghegè!!! "ALFREDO FIORENTINI" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:11:18 -0500 From: "Jeffrey Lemlich" Subject: Spar/Hit continued: Music City Soul! Those of you who've been following the discussion of the Hit and Spar labels should keep an eye open for the Kent CD "Music City Soul"... which includes some Spar label recordings! It also adds another important name alongside Bob Beasley, in getting these hit-making operations going. Ted Jarrett was a piano player with Louis Brooks & His Hi-Toppers (on Excello), the group that also featured Earl Gaines (veteran Nashville soul man, he later covered the Mighty Hannibal's "Hymn No. 5"). Ted was also an independent producer, who worked with labels such as Republic... which at the time (the 50s) was co-owned by Bill Beasley and Alan Bubis (and one of Bubis' cousins). Now, from Ady Croasdell's liner notes on "Music City Soul", talking about Ted Jarrett: "By the early 60s he was working with the locally-based Hit label. This label formed by Alan Bubis and William Beasley, specialized in bringing out no frills, sound-a-like covers of national chart hits as soon as they became popular. They placed them in chain stores such as Woolworth's, selling them at a fraction of the original price. The singers were paid a flat session fee and a decent profit was made due to the high turnover of these cheaply produced records. Ted used his own roster of artists and other local working groups and singers on the Hit recordings. They usually sang under pseudonyms, "Leroy Jones" may have actually been Herbert Hunter, "Jenny and the Jewels" could have been Peggy Gaines or the Avons, and "Harvey Frolic" sounds like Larry Birdsong to me." "The Hit releases often featured an authentic Ted Jarrett composition on the B-side; for example Thomas Henry's Spar recording "Some Day" was also recorded by Leroy Jones for Hit. I'm sure many collectors have their own treasured Hit oddity and there are bound to be many more pleasant surprises from a label that upwards of a hundred releases". Actually, well over a hundred releases, but who's counting. More from Croasdell: "When the twist craze was hot, another imprint called Spar emerged. Like Hit, it initially had covers of chart records but eventually genuine R&B releases came out aimed at the current market. Of the previous owners only William Beasley's name appears on any label credits and Spar appears to be Ted's first partly or wholly owned label. The early Spar labels were red and silver, the later ones black and silver. Another Jarrett inspired imprint, Poncello, was started around 1963/64 and ran in tandem with Spar. Both labels featured Herbert Hunter as the main artist and supplemented their roster with interesting one-off acts like the Chellows, Jimmy Tig and The Rounders, or Bill Pursell. Ted claims that like the Hit artists some of these names were made up disguising well-known local performers. The labels chugged along into the mid 60s with excellent releases but with little success." Jimmy Tig & The Rounders and Bill Pursell were hardly made-up names, but of course the Chellows were a Bobby Russell/Bergen White studio act. I notice there was even a Spar release (#750) by 'BOBBY & BERGEN' - The Whole Summer Through/I've Got A Tiger In My Tank. Bobby & Bergen, of course, were studio members of Ronny & The Daytonas and appeared on their biggest hit, GTO. Lemlich Please check out my web page at: http://www.limestonerecords.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 19:41:40 -0500 From: "Chris Polinsky" Subject: Instore performances wanted in Brooklyn. Somethin' Else records has now been open for one year. We have started the idea of having instore performances and would like to start booking ASAP. We are located in Park Slope Brooklyn ( 15 minute drive from NYC) and we are looking to have these shows om saturday's, sunday's. All interested bands please contact somethinelserecords@hotmail.com thanks _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 19:47:10 -0500 From: "John Trembly" Subject: SF Sorrow in the garage; the Wild Thing on Elektra Happy New Year to everyone on the lisit, and a big thanks to everyone who answered my query about the Wild Thing. I really didn't expect to learn that much about such an unknown/obscure band. I think I learned more than I really wanted to know! But again, thanks to all who answered. especially Maureen, is there anything in your life you haven't heard/seen/done? Since I've joined the list I've read of all of your teenage exploits including burning down your backyard during an adolescent camp-out and flipping over a late-sixties/early seventies Plymouth Roadrunner. You continue to amaze me. I love your posts. As for the "SF Sorrow in the garage" thread I have inadvertently started, I never said it was a garage record, nor do I think it is (or have I ever) That just happens to be the closest thing to garage I have turned anyone onto recently, so it was sort of an appropiate reply to Twig's post. ANd yes, my friend/co-worker is delving deeper into the Pretties' catalog. I suggested he pick up SF Sorrow and Parachute as they are, in my opinion, the two albums the band is most well-known for. So when he went to pick them up, the geniuses at Compact Disc World told him Parachute is out of print (it's not,I know) so he had to order the Snapper box set that includes it along with the first album and CrossTalk! So he's getting more exposure to the Things than I hoped he would. I also got him to order the Velvet Underground box set from BMG and suggested he pick up the first two Blue Cheer albums, Trout Mask Replica, the MC5 best-of on Rhino, the Stooges three albums, and Hawkwind's Sonic Boom Killers Singles A's & B's on Repertoire. Next I am going to suggest Family's Music In A Doll's House and the Small Faces' Ogden's Nut Gone Flake. It's just sometimes I am afraid to suggest something to him because he's one of these audio nuts with a high-end system with a sub-woofer and expects everything to sound like it was cut at AIR Studios with George Martin. I know he's not gonna dig those demo cuts on the Velvets box since they're taken from acetates and old tapes. Also, he only shops at Compact Disc World and through BMG, so it's hard for him to acquire some things. He's fearful of shopping at a store like Vintage Vinyl in Fords or even the store I work at, Izzy's, because he thinks he'll leave both places with $200 worth of stuff charged to his credit card and his wife will knock him out! Anyway, thanks to everyone for their replies! Just like Sister Ray said, John Yes, I know I slipped an extra "i" in list up top.oops ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jan 2001 20:27:42 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: NZ and Aussie beat At 12:12 PM 1/2/01 -0500, you wrote: > I wrote: >>>To me, the Aussie sound sorta combines the toughness of American garage >>>with the frenetic energy of Brit freakbeat and comes out sounding really >>>hot! Laura replied: >I agree and lately have been listening to my favorite (and only) Aussie comp >called Pretty Ugly. Is this comp related to the Ugly Things comp people were >raving about a while ago? I love the opening song "The Color of Her Eyes" by >Laurie Wade. Awesome fuzz and amazing vocal. > "It's a Kave In," a NZ comp, is also good. > Laura, I'm sure Peter M. and others can elaborate, but I don't think Pretty Ugly has much to do with the original "Ugly Things" vinyl comps (4 volumes) on Raven from the mid-80's. These, in my book, were kinda the ground-breaking Nuggets/Pebbles-type offerings of top-notch boss Aussie/NZ 60's sounds. The first 3 are brilliant, while the last one is a bit more into heavier later 60's psych leaning stuff. If you can track down the CD of "Ugly Things" (sort of a best of), you won't be sorry. Ditto for the first volume of the NZ-focused "Wild Things" CD. Rocky. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 20:47:36 +0000 From: "Linda" Subject: Re: sf sorrow in the garage Rob, I wasn't offended by your post; just wanted to emphasize that spreading the gospel -- as you put it so well -- was the point there. Peace, and happy new year to all! - -Linda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:10:10 EST From: Nancyneon01@aol.com Subject: Re:NYC Rock 'N' Roll Convention/Show Feb 16 & 17 Which BOMPERS are gonna check this out?! It's 2 days of garage,surf,and psychobilly. A two day pass is 30 bucks. You can get 'em at smarttix.com Mondo Topless will be there and a cast of thousands!!-NN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:16:25 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: SF Sorrow in the garage In a message dated 1/2/01 7:52:18 PM, johntrembly@netzero.net writes: << I suggested he pick up SF Sorrow and Parachute as they are, in my opinion, the two albums the band is most well-known for. >> you know, as much credit as the pretties get (deservedly) for their earlier r& b material, and for sf sorrow, i gotta say that i just love the parachute album, & actually, in my book, it rates a bit higher than sf sorrow. i really think that the pretties are one of the great unsung harmony bands - and parachute is full of those fantastic harmonies. there are just some absolutely gorgeous moments on that record - i think "grass" may be my very favorite pretty things song. the bonus tracks on the snapper reish also include the totally sublime "october 26" - i read somewhere, maybe in mike stax's liners for the snapper disc, that if sf sorrow was the pretties' sgt pepper, than this is their abbey road - & i really think that this record holds its own in comparison to abbey road. rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:20:03 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: los shakers movie? has anybody seen that los shakers movie alluded to in the notes to the "por favor" CD? is there a video circulating around? i am really intrigued by this, it sounds really cool...if anybody's seen this, i'd be interested in hearing their impression of it! rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:36:57 +0000 From: "Linda" Subject: Re: Re: Trouser Press LPs/Sleepers of the 70s? > Anybody else have any sleeper, forgotten or other treasures > from the 70s that got lost in the disco frenzy? It's earlier than the disco era, but I would add Neil Merryweather's Space Rangers (1974) to the list. Wacko, funky, indescribable. Picks of the album: a wild cover of "Sunshine Superman", and "Hollywood Boulevard" (not the Kinks song). The guitar player, Michael Willis, was amazing... wonder what happened to these guys... - -Linda ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:41:22 EST From: Nancyneon01@aol.com Subject: Re:The Hunchbacked Men The Hunchbacked Men are going in the studio tomorrow to record their version of Barry And The Remains' "Baby I Believe In You". Live they've done The Easybeats' "She's So Fine" and might cover "For My Woman". Now, that's entertainment!!! NN ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:45:00 EST From: TwigYoungLions@aol.com Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #5 Ricky the K's Solid Gold Time Machine... hey Bompers...if you go to www.60sradio.com my childhood friend Ricky has, what can only be called a GENUINE 60' s radio show every day...for 3 hours...Old commercials, PAMS jingles, the whole thing....Plus the great NOT quite ALL top hits radio...all the old goofy drop ins are also there...give it a listen , and tell me what you think....Twig ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:52:18 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: NZ and Aussie beat In a message dated 1/2/01 5:33:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, rockys@tbaytel.net writes: > > If you can track down the CD of "Ugly Things" (sort of a best of), you > won't be sorry. Ditto for the first volume of the NZ-focused "Wild Things" > CD. > > The Ugly Things series is essential as well as the "It's A Kave-In" which was also a monster but i know these being the older series may be hard to find. I always thought that the same about the Aussie/NZ sound. They sound like U.S. garage records but with the snot turned up a few degrees. I mean listen to stuff like "Undecided" by Masters Apprentices, "Ugly Thing" by the Creatures "I want need love you" by the Black Diamonds, "Social end product" by the Bluestars.... (and the list goes on).. fuckin' heck man, it doesn't get any snottier than this. When you dive into the brilliant Aussie psych stuff, the UK sound is a huge influence. You get the best of both worlds down there. One of thee best places for music!! Groovily Tony Check out the Fuzz,Flaykes & Shakes website http://members.xoom.com/TonytheTyger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 22:01:55 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: los shakers movie? In a message dated 1/2/01 6:20:33 PM Pacific Standard Time, Euphorik6@aol.com writes: > > has anybody seen that los shakers movie alluded to in the notes to the > "por favor" CD? is there a video circulating around? i am really intrigued > by > this, it sounds really cool...if anybody's seen this, i'd be interested in > hearing their impression of it! > > I haven't seen a movie but there is a video of Shakers clips that is circulating among traders. It's about an hour long and has loads of clips and promos. It was acutally being sold legitimately in S.America from what I understand. It is okay, but doesn't compare to other 60's stuff I've seen. What sucks is that person A will trade a copy to person B(a friend) who trades it to person C and then person C copies it and puts it on Ebay for $20.00 a pop with a dummy jacket. I just saw a load of Mexican clips on Ebay for auction that I traded to a guy. All this stuff I just dubbed off Mexican channels from Sat morning TV and traded it. Yeah, I know I don't own the stuff but I don't think that kinda of stuff is too cool, especially when some sucker is paying $20+ for third generation (at least) tape quality. Just an opinion though, Tony Check out the Fuzz,Flaykes & Shakes website http://members.xoom.com/TonytheTyger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 22:09:16 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: Joe Meek Favorites In a message dated 12/31/00 10:49:43 AM Pacific Standard Time, MaximumMarshak@cs.com writes: > > > I really love the Houston Wells stuff. Some of it is really square, but > the > good songs are great. I guess he was a British guy who spent some time in > Canada, where he learned some cowboy stuff. He then moved back to the UK > and > hooked up with Meek. After a couple of hits (Northwind and Only the > Heartaches) he developed a big Irish following. He went through a couple > of > bands and faded into obscurity in the early seventies. Anyone know > anymore?? > > I love the Housten Well stuff to, oddly enough I found UK pressings here in San Diego and dig "Blowing Wild" the best. Of the other wimpy stuff, "Magic Wheel" by Rod-Ken Cavaliers and John Leyton "Son this is she" and Johnny remember me. Yeah these are the wimpier ones, but heck I love Joe Meek productions and find something interesting in almost every one of his productions. Tony Check out the Fuzz,Flaykes & Shakes website http://members.xoom.com/TonytheTyger ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 22:17:56 -0500 From: "Raymond Tucker" Subject: Re: Re:The Hunchbacked Men They need to cover "Come and See Her" as well. I can imagine who their first pick for official dancer would be!! - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 9:41 PM Subject: Re:The Hunchbacked Men > > The Hunchbacked Men are going in the studio tomorrow to record their version > of Barry And The Remains' "Baby I Believe In You". Live they've done The > Easybeats' "She's So Fine" and might cover "For My Woman". Now, that's > entertainment!!! NN > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 12:38:20 +0900 From: Hitomi I Subject: Re: los shakers movie? Hi I'm one of contributor for Los Shakers CD. The movie Escala musical is only color clip of them, but the part of their appearnace was very short. There are another video clips which featured Los Shakers . I don't think they are not circurated. the photo of movie poster is mine. http://60spunk.m78.com/shakers.htm Euphorik6@aol.com wrote: > > has anybody seen that los shakers movie alluded to in the notes to the > "por favor" CD? is there a video circulating around? i am really intrigued by > this, it sounds really cool...if anybody's seen this, i'd be interested in > hearing their impression of it! > > rob > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== - -- >>------------ST/MONO------------> Hitomi I Cutie Morning Moon:Trans-World '60s punk http://60spunk.m78.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 21:33:46 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Mata Subject: Super Unexpected Coolness Hey Everybody, I know that discussing Hip Hop and Psych on these lists is like discussing oral sex with your parents, but I heard something this weekend that surprised the hell out of me. I'm sure some of you out there in music land have heard DJ Shadow's sample of The Growing Concern's "Edge of Time", but this weekend I was listening to the new Del The Funkee Homosapien release titled "Deltron 3030" and on the song "Positive Contact" there is a sample of the Hooterville Trolley's "No Silver Bird". I recommend you check out the song and listen to the fuzz and organ for yourself. You can probably find the song on Napster by doing a search for Deltron 3030. Though I searched the liner notes I couldn't find a credit to The Hooterville Trolley, do any of you out there know if it is necessary after all of this time to credit the group? See ya, - -Jason Mata __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 01:01:48 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: Super Unexpected Coolness Jason Mata wrote: >Hey Everybody, >I know that discussing Hip Hop and Psych on these >lists is like discussing oral sex with your parents, Ha ha! Well, I'm all for the first two items, myself... Don't go in for those talks with the folks, though... >this weekend I was listening to >the new Del The Funkee Homosapien release titled >"Deltron 3030" and on the song "Positive Contact" >there is a sample of the Hooterville Trolley's "No >Silver Bird". I recommend you check out the song and >listen to the fuzz and organ for yourself. You can >probably find the song on Napster by doing a search >for Deltron 3030. >Though I searched the liner notes I couldn't find a >credit to The Hooterville Trolley, do any of you out >there know if it is necessary after all of this time >to credit the group? I have HEARD, but don't know from how authoritative a source, that the length of a sample is key in whether or not credit and royalties must be given. How long was the sample--a couple of seconds, or more substantial? I'm as curious as you are about the exact parameters. Also, dealing with obscure material like this, they may have decided to take their chances or been unable to locate whoever holds the rights. In general, most hip hop records never used to list their source samples (in some cases, liner notes like that would have ended up looking like the back of a Chocolate Watch Band lp!), till the issue hit the courts, and even now, I sometimes see the heavy hitters listed, but usually not a complete listing in the credits. But recognizing snatches of cool stuff has always been part of the kick of listening to this music. How was this record overall, by the way? Worth a listen besides the coolness in question? Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 01:17:14 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: [Garage66] Super Unexpected Coolness Del's samples are usually pretty interesting. Anybody remember him sampling the Monkees' "Zilch" on "Mistadobolina"? At 09:33 PM 1/2/01 -0800, Jason Mata wrote: >"Edge of Time", but this weekend I was listening to >the new Del The Funkee Homosapien release titled >"Deltron 3030" and on the song "Positive Contact" >there is a sample of the Hooterville Trolley's "No >Silver Bird". I recommend you check out the song and >listen to the fuzz and organ for yourself. You can >probably find the song on Napster by doing a search >for Deltron 3030. - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 03:43:18 EST From: ARei425705@aol.com Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #5 In a message dated 1/2/01 5:12:24 PM, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << Truth be told, I don't think I'd really consider it a garage record, either. It's far too complex and psych to be simply a garage record. I know it all comes down to semantics anyway...what does everyone else think? >> I agree with the opinion that it doesn't matter! It is simply one of the coolest records of all time. PERIOD! - -Ari ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:13:08 +0100 From: "ALFREDO FIORENTINI" Subject: Il Geghegè!!! Mimì wrote:. > The 1st thing I bought on Internet was Rita Pavone's "Il Geghege'", a great garage track from the italian teen queen which I've wanted to find for such a long time! < Do you REALLY think it' s garage?!? I' m not saying you are wrong (my friend and fellow Bomper Davide, a garage maniac, loves it!) but.... well.... your definition sounds someway funny to me cause we' ve always considered this great track as..... "OLDIES"!!! A few months ago you could see this short red head woman on the lame Sunday afternoon TV variety show still singing great and dancing in spite of the age! I can still remember (fuzzy memories here) her playing the role of Gianburrasca, an undisciplined pupil, in an Italian TV show for children, in my pre-school years, singing the popular song among little children "Viva la pappa con il pomodoro!" (Hooray for the tomatoes pap!). CRAZY......! Michele Fiorentini ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2001 #6 *************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com