From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #7 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Wednesday, January 3 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 007 This the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: Oz/NZ punk - world's best Re: Sorrow in C major NZ & Aussie Beat "JUMPING JOHNNY" Re:Babiukie RIP yeeyeemgt@webtv.net (Michael Quirk) Re: Music City Soul HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Sorrow in C major "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)" Re:Babiukie RIP Andies Candies searching for a female bass player "anna giuliani" RE: chain stores Alan Wright Re: Sorrow in C major Rat Pfink zombie heaven "Laura Markley" RE: chain stores Rat Pfink Re: Sorrow in C major Iam Fuzzco RE: chain stores Iam Fuzzco Re: zombie heaven Evan Davies Re: zombie heaven "James Bond" Re: zombie heaven TSanc43763@aol.com Re: Sorrow in C major "Astroboy" Lewd need place to stay in Seattle Alan Wright Upcoming Mondo Topless Shows SSamSS@aol.com sugar town response "sara sherr" Re: bomp-digest V2001 #6 "shocked and sorry" Nuggets from the Golden State CD series "Abra Kadabra" Our Little Rendez-vous playlist 1-2-01 Mekios Extry! Extry! Read all about it! "Patricia Ragan Hoehner" Re: Sorrow in C major "Lenny Smith" Re: Sorrow in C major "Astroboy" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 3 Jan 01 22:52:17 +1100 From: Subject: Re: Oz/NZ punk - world's best >The Ugly Things series is essential as well as the "It's A Kave-In" which >was >also a monster but i know these being the older series may be hard to find. > I always thought that the same about the Aussie/NZ sound. They sound >like U.S. garage records but with the snot turned up a few degrees. I mean >listen to stuff like > "Undecided" by Masters Apprentices, "Ugly Thing" by the Creatures "I want >need love you" by the Black Diamonds, "Social end product" by the >Bluestars.... (and the list goes on).. fuckin' heck man, it doesn't get >any >snottier than this. > When you dive into the brilliant Aussie psych stuff, the UK sound is a >huge influence. You get the best of both worlds down there. One of thee best >places for music!! Groovily Tony Couldn't have put it better myself - of course, grammar has never been my strong point. I've said before on this list that Ugly Things #1 (issued in 1980, before some of you kids were born) is the best ever '60s punk comp. And none dared argue. - -Peter M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 01 23:01:49 +1100 From: Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major >Truth be told, I don't think I'd really consider it a garage record, either. >It's far too complex and psych to be simply a garage record. I know it all >comes down to semantics anyway...what does everyone else think? >> > >I agree with the opinion that it doesn't matter! It is simply one of the >coolest records of all time. PERIOD! >- -Ari Why WOULD anyone say SF Sorrow was a garage album? That's like calling Sgt Peppers a scorching punk LP... Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with categorising various types of music - it happens in all other fields of art and science. Labelling things is how we understand the world around us; giving names to ideas, or species of animals, etc. Jeesuss! - -Peter M ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 01:08:17 +1300 From: "JUMPING JOHNNY" Subject: NZ & Aussie Beat Its A Kave In (LP) is primarily Aussie stuff not NZ stuff. The Wild Things vol 1 CD is unfortunately mastered at an incorrect speed. The LP sounds excellent and is cut at the correct speed. Put it down to digital mastering being in its infancy in NZ when the CDs were done. A correctly mastered CD with superior version of No More Now by the Smoke and photos of Tomorrows Love should be available sometime this century. The 5.6.7.8's are currently in town and making full use of the fact that the NZ dollar is worth the same as a used Sound Of Music LP. Today in one store they bought a $hit load of records as well as a van full of thrift shop bargains plus Skinny showed them his AC/DC collection. JOHN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 09:53:49 -0500 (EST) From: yeeyeemgt@webtv.net (Michael Quirk) Subject: Re:Babiukie RIP Damn, I didn't have him or Ray Walston on my 2001 celebrity deathpool. I almost put Connolly on it though. My picks to go in 2001: 1) Bob Hope 2) Kate Hepburn 3) Don Ho 4) Ted Williams 5) Jonathan Harris 6) Syd Barrett 7) Bob Uecker 8) Bob Barker 9) Bob Eubanks 10) Edgar But seriously, I feel bad for Jeff. I knew he loved that bird very much. It's the only thing I've ever seen him show open affection for. He must be crushed. I wonder if he'll bury it in the Common at noon like he did his other bird. MJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:10:04 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: Music City Soul Interesting about the soul releases on Hit...didn't know that Herbert Hunter was a real live human being. I have his Hit version of Chubby Checker's "Twist It Up," where the "emcee" at the song's beginning announces Herbert rather than Chubby. For a label that tried to fool people into thinking these were original versions, I found this kinda odd... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:38:55 -0500 From: "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)" Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major > Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with categorising various types of > music - it happens in all other fields of art and science. Music isn't science, and 90% of the labels are subjective so they don't have the meaning they would in science. And the various labels in pop/rock go WAY beyond what's done in other arts. Labelling > things is how we understand the world around us; giving names to ideas, Once you have the idea, what is it important to give it a name? > or species of animals, etc. Jeesuss! An animal is definitely in a species or it isn't. How many records are definitely garage, as opposed to punk, or rock, or freakbeat, or pop, or oldies? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 08:17:36 -0800 (PST) From: Andies Candies Subject: Re:Babiukie RIP Yeah, too bad he picks about people's posts to the bomp lists that are nice and flames them for saying something just as "he has his faults"!!!!!!! I will NEVER be nice to this guy again, only his birds. Andrea Michael Quirk wrote: But seriously, I feel bad for Jeff. I knew he loved that bird very much. It's the only thing I've ever seen him show open affection for. He must be crushed. I wonder if he'll bury it in the Common at noon like he did his other bird. MJ - --------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 18:01:43 From: "anna giuliani" Subject: searching for a female bass player Well, this may be a long shot, but here goes. I'm in an all-gal garage band called *The Regrettes* from Austin, Texas and we're looking for a female bass player. Finding bass players is extremely difficult! If anyone knows a rockin' girl who may be interested, please fill me in. We already have a lot of shows lined up and want to record soon! Thanks everyone. Anna G. _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:13:58 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: chain stores That's funny. I know some people, like that, too. They won't shop at indie stores for fear of being ripped off, yet they shop at Border's and Tower and then don't understand why they get on tons of junk mail lists! Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:14:26 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major Most music categories are usually marketing bullshit rather than actually being based on similarities in the music itself. Unless I'm starting to go senile I seem to remember that back in the late '70s the record labels were actually marketing stuff like Tom Petty and Dire Straits as "new wave"... At 10:38 AM 1/3/2001 -0500, you wrote: > >Labelling >> things is how we understand the world around us; giving names to ideas, > >Once you have the idea, what is it important to give it a name? > >> or species of animals, etc. Jeesuss! > >An animal is definitely in a species or it isn't. How many records are >definitely garage, as opposed to punk, or rock, or freakbeat, or pop, or >oldies? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:26:36 -0500 From: "Laura Markley" Subject: zombie heaven James B. wrote: >Musically, I got the Zombies' "Zombie Heaven" box set - GREAT, GREAT, >GREAT! This is essential listening that nobody should miss. It's hard to >fathom why they weren't even more popular then they were.> James, This is also one of my faves, I snapped it up a couple summers ago used and listened to it incessantly. One gem after another. I really like some of the Chris White tunes such as "Leave Me Be" and "What More Can I Do" which has such a swinging beat and great organ solo... and all Colin Blunstone's takes at perfecting "Sometimes/I feel/a little lonely.." The liner notes are so detailed and do go into why the Zombies were not more popular. Of course I can't remember now but probably it was due to the usual record company snafus. >Have decided that the format of the Bomp show be changed to a weekly 1 hour >variety format...everybody better practice their juggling and unicycle >riding. Ladies and Gentlemen...."Miss Markleypenny and her amazing >chimps!"...whatta big shoo we have tonite - but first a message from >Anacin...> This is starting to sound like Sabado Gigante! _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:36:48 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: RE: chain stores It just doesn't pay for the Average Joe with mainstream tastes to shop at indie stores. Indies usually pay more for new releases than the big chains charge retail, because of steep volume discounts. The indies simply can't compete on price alone. At 10:13 AM 1/3/2001 -0800, you wrote: > >That's funny. I know some people, like that, too. They won't shop at indie >stores for fear of being ripped off, yet they shop at Border's and Tower and >then don't understand why they get on tons of junk mail lists! > >Alan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:45:05 -0800 (PST) From: Iam Fuzzco Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major - --- "BlackMonk (Tom,as always)" wrote: > > Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with > > categorising various types of music - > > it happens in all other fields of art and science. > > Music isn't science, and 90% of the labels are > subjective so they don't have > the meaning they would in science. > > > Labelling things is how we understand the world > > around us; giving names to ideas, > > Once you have the idea, what is it important to give > it a name? So you can communicate that idea to someone who is unfamiliar with it. So you can deliniate it from other ideas. That's why we have names. They are part of our identity. > > or species of animals, etc. Jeesuss! > > An animal is definitely in a species or it isn't. Oh yeah, then what's a duck-billed platypus? What's a quark, matter or energy? Believe me, science can be just as subjective as rock music. By labeling or categorizing something, it's an easy way to communicate the idea. > How many records are > definitely garage, as opposed to punk, or rock, or > freakbeat, or pop, or oldies? So we just call it all "music" whether it's Beethoven or Backstreet Boys? Dave Brubek or the Dead Boys? Esquerita or Esqueviel? Like in the rest of the world, I think that most records can be fairly easily categorized. But, like in science there are always exceptions to the rule. Please keep in mind tho, this whole rant started cause someone had the gall to express his own opinion and state that he wouldn't charaterize something as being strictly "garage". The intent was being open minded. Nobody said it should be strictly catagorized as one thing and one thing alone. ================================================= Wanted, Dead or Alive: Schroedinger's Cat ================================================= > > > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to > majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 10:52:12 -0800 (PST) From: Iam Fuzzco Subject: RE: chain stores - --- Rat Pfink wrote: > > > It just doesn't pay for the Average Joe with > mainstream > tastes to shop at indie stores. Indies usually pay > more for > new releases than the big chains charge retail, > because > of steep volume discounts. The indies simply can't > compete > on price alone. Chain stores are great for other types bargains, too. I picked up a two video tape set of "The Man With Golden Arm" and "Suddenly" at a Record Town/Sam Goody or some such store, for $10. An Indie store would know that these were great movies, and would: A) Charge more for the set B) Split it open and sell'em individually. During a recent pick through the cheep bin at another mall store I snagged a Christmas CD with The Cartwrights (of Bonanza fame) singing a Christmas song and a three cd set of The Rat Pack live, Frank & Dean songs and Sinatra with other singers (NOT Duets!) all really cheap too. Plus, the chains have those cute teenage girls working at them, whereas indie stores have those middle-aged "stuck in their teenage years" guys. "Why she's a girl from the chain store..." __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 13:58:34 -0500 From: Evan Davies Subject: Re: zombie heaven > This is starting to sound like Sabado Gigante! Ooh, I wanna be Don Francisco! And, uh, just to keep the message subject relevant to the message let me add that I borrowed that Zombies box from a friend shortly after it came out, and while I liked it I never got around to picking it up - partly because I already had that old 2-LP best of. One of these days I'm going to reconsider, though. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 13:58:04 +0000 From: "James Bond" Subject: Re: zombie heaven > James, This is also one of my faves, I snapped it up a couple summers ago > used and listened to it incessantly. One gem after another. I really like > some of the Chris White tunes such as "Leave Me Be" and "What More Can I Do" > which has such a swinging beat and great organ solo... > and all Colin Blunstone's takes at perfecting "Sometimes/I feel/a little > lonely.." > The liner notes are so detailed and do go into why the Zombies were not more > popular. Of course I can't remember now but probably it was due to the usual > record company snafus. The 'Sometimes' takes are fantastic...listening to Blunstone's voice is a pleasure that I usually equate only with Jazz vocalists. Very rare in rock/pop that someone can sing THAT well. "Leave Me Be" has always been one of my faves as well, Laura. I really, really like "You Make Me Feel Good" for one of their earlier compositions and just love the whole Odessey and Oracle and beyond material. The big treat for me was hearing some of the unreleased stuff on disc 3 and the additional BBC stuff I hadn't heard from the old album put out in the 80's. As for the TV show...well, I think it was getting out of hand with everyone wanting to be such n' such a character - too many subplots and cameos. The suits have decided either we go with the variety format or re-jig the situation so that you and Highland Ken are foreign agents whose plans are continually thwarted by a gigantic talking moose and Rocky. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:40:41 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: zombie heaven speaking of this, has anyone noticed that the 'Odyssey and Oracle' on Zombie Heaven has been remixed or remastered. It doesn't sound nearly as good as on the original vinyl. I know CD's sound different anyways but there seems more to it than just that. Tony ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 14:43:53 -0800 From: "Astroboy" Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major This reminds me of debates over 'What is or is not "Film Noir"?' Speaking of SF Sorrow, why was the Snapper reissue cd done in mono? - ----- Original Message ----- From: Iam Fuzzco To: Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 10:45 AM Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major > > > --- "BlackMonk (Tom,as always)" > wrote: > > > > Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with > > > categorising various types of music - > > > it happens in all other fields of art and science. > > > > Music isn't science, and 90% of the labels are > > subjective so they don't have > > the meaning they would in science. > > > > > Labelling things is how we understand the world > > > around us; giving names to ideas, > > > > Once you have the idea, what is it important to give > > it a name? > > So you can communicate that idea to someone who is > unfamiliar with it. So you can deliniate it from > other ideas. That's why we have names. They are > part of our identity. > > > > > or species of animals, etc. Jeesuss! > > > > An animal is definitely in a species or it isn't. > > Oh yeah, then what's a duck-billed platypus? What's a > quark, matter or energy? Believe me, science can be > just as subjective as rock music. By labeling or > categorizing something, it's an easy way to > communicate the idea. > > > How many records are > > definitely garage, as opposed to punk, or rock, or > > freakbeat, or pop, or oldies? > > So we just call it all "music" whether it's Beethoven > or Backstreet Boys? Dave Brubek or the Dead Boys? > Esquerita or Esqueviel? > > Like in the rest of the world, I think that most > records can be fairly easily categorized. But, like > in science there are always exceptions to the rule. > > Please keep in mind tho, this whole rant started cause > someone had the gall to express his own opinion and > state that he wouldn't charaterize something as being > strictly "garage". The intent was being open minded. > Nobody said it should be strictly catagorized as one > thing and one thing alone. > > ================================================= > Wanted, Dead or Alive: Schroedinger's Cat > ================================================= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to > > majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 12:02:30 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: Lewd need place to stay in Seattle Hey everybody, see ya all next weekend? Our only problem is we still don't have a place to stay in Seattle. Yea yea yea, get a room. We will if we have to, but we are just now getting used to sleeping on floors and all..... So if any of you can help? Bob The Lewd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 15:04:55 EST From: SSamSS@aol.com Subject: Upcoming Mondo Topless Shows Happy New Year, one and all! Upcoming Mondo Topless Shows: This Thursday, January 4th at the North Star Bar, 27th & Poplar Streets, Philadelphia, PA, with: The Improbables and Full-Blown Cherry. Saturday, February 17th - NYC Rock n Roll Convention & Extravaganza. Details below: Lo-Fi Entertainment & COOL CULTURE Magazine Present: The New York City Rock ‘n Roll Convention And Extravaganza: A Celebration of 50 Years of RNR! Dates: Friday February 16, 2001 (6:30pm-2am) and Saturday February 17, 2001 (10am-2am) At the Auditorium at The Church of St. Paul The Apostle 60th Street/9th Avenue, New York City Tickets on sale from SmartTix at 212-206-1515 or www.smarttix.com This two-day event will be a celebration of 50 years of RNR, featuring live bands spanning all genres from 1950's rockabilly to 60's surf and garage and more, plus dealers selling memorabilia & collectibles and celebrity guest appearances. Headliner acts from around the country will perform plus some of the most exciting local bands. Here is a list of bands that will be performing: FRIDAY FEBRUARY 16 ROCKABILLY LEGEND ROBERT GORDON Irreversible Slacks (Surf) The Flipped Fedoras (50's) Mad Daddys (Garage) Psycho Charger (Psychobilly) SATURDAY FEBRUARY 17: THE LEGENDARY LINK WRAY!!! The Frantic Flattops (Rockabilly) The Strangemen (Surfabilly) Mr. Action & the Supertones (Surf) Jonny Chan & The New Dynasty Six (Garage) The Creatures of the Golden Dawn (Garage) Mondo Topless (Garage) Phil Hummer & The Buzzards (Rockabilly) The Coffin Daggers (Surf) For further infortmation about Lo-Fi Entertainment check out their website: www.nyc-swing.com/events-rock.html - -------------------------------------------------------------- Mondo Topless - www.mondo-topless.com - -------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 20:16:00 -0000 From: "sara sherr" Subject: sugar town response Thanks to all of you who responded with your enthusiasm, interest, and suggestions. To those of you that were interested, here's what the first night will hold. This month's entertainment is not so Bomp-ish, but the ladies involved do a nice bittersweet twist on the old singer-songwriter thing: Sugar Town, a monthly night dedicated to female bands and DJ's, debuts at The Balcony (above the Trocadero in Philadelphia) on Thursday, January 11 at 9 p.m. with Sarah Dougher, Kara Lafty, and Cynthia Mason. Admission will be $6. Sarah Dougher is a writer, activist, ancient literature professor, and Portland-based singer-songwriter with recordings on the Mr. Lady (Walls Ablaze) and K (Day One) labels. She's also been a member of The Crabs, Lookers, and Cadillaca (with Sleater-Kinney's Corin Tucker). For more info: www.mrlady.com. Kara Lafty led the supercharged pop of Moped and Sonny Sixkiller http://www.vitalcog.com/ throughout the '90s, and is now gigging around town, solo. Cynthia Mason (http://www.spiderwomanrecords.com/) was the winner of Philadelphia City Paper's Creepiest Chamber Pop Songstress (in a good way). DJ's Sara Sherr, Maura Johnston, Maria Tessa Sciarrino, and MJ Fine will be spinning the best records by our favorite women in punk, new wave, pop, indie, and more. The name Sugar Town comes from an excellent Nancy Sinatra song about leaving bad weather behind and going to a mythical place called Sugar Town, a pretty apt metaphor for the mood that we'd like to create at this event. _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 14:33:09 -0600 From: "shocked and sorry" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #6 Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 01:01:48 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: Super Unexpected Coolness How was this record overall, by the way? Worth a listen besides the coolness in question? Lenny I think it's probably one of the best hip hop albums to come out this year. It's del of course w/ the automator producing (he did all that stuff w/ kool keith awhile back) and the guy doing scratches is kid koala who is also pretty cool on his own (lots of old educational film samples and random noises). some might disagree but the whole record seems to be some crazy story about getting the hell off this planet and getting w/ space. oh well, there ya go m.fortune *nothelpingmyroommatepaint _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 21:35:40 -0000 From: "Abra Kadabra" Subject: Nuggets from the Golden State CD series Does anyone know of a website that has information about what has been released on the Nuggets from the Golden State CD series? Any info would be appreciated. _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:29:08 -0500 (EST) From: Mekios Subject: Our Little Rendez-vous playlist 1-2-01 CHARMS - Shake with charm (7"; Popular) LES SEXAREENOS - Hey now! Hey now! (Live! In the bed, LP; Sympathy) CHEYENES - Respectable (V/A That Driving Beat, CD) RUN-A-ROUNDS - Couldn't care less (V/A Highs in the Mid Sixties, vol.5, LP; AIP) JENNY & THE RASCALS - You told me a lie (V/A From the Kitchen to the Garage, CD; Distortions) THE HAVENOTS - Kids alright (7"; Screaming Apple) CRESTONES - She's a bad motorcycle (7"; Markie) SHIRLEY - Big boss man (V/A From the Kitchen to the Garage, CD; Distortions) LOS SIREX - El tren de la costa (V/A Too Much Monkey Business, vol.4, LP) LOOSE LIPS - Two times loser (7"; TKO) EMBROOKS - Eyes of love (Our New Day, LP; Voxx) CUBY+BLIZZARDS - Stumble and fall (7"EP; Op Art) TEENAGE HEAD - Picture my face (V/A Killed by Dentistry, LP) THE TWELFTH NIGHT - 2's better than 3 (V/A Psychedelic States vol.1: Florida, CD; Gear Fab) SLEEPERS (UK) - Angel in a raincoat (V/A Teenage Treats vol.6, LP) POETS - Some things I can't forget (Scotland's No.1 Group, CD; DynoVox) THANES - Keep you out (The Thanes of Cawdor, 10"; Minotaur) CHOIR - I'd rather you leave me (Choir Practice, LP; Sundazed) DECIBELS - Jackie (7"EP; G.I. Productions) PINK FINKS - Nowhere to run (V/A Devil's Children vol.2, CD) CECILIA ET SES ENNUIS - Mon engin d'enfer (7"EP; Telstar) JACQUES FILH - Wraaach!!! (V/A Ils sont Fous ces Gaulois, vol.3, LP) NERVOUS EATERS - Get stuffed (7"; Penniman) STEVE AND THE HOLIDAYS - Unemployment (V/A Real Gone Garbage, LP; Romulan) DESCENDANTS - Lela (V/A Bo Did It!, LP; Satan) CHANTS R'N'B - I want her (Stagedoor Witchdoctors, CD; Bacchus Archives) DISTORSION - Budi kojonudo (I ke buen dios, LP; Discos Suicidas) CREATURES - Ugly thing (7"EP; Top Shelf) HARVEY SCALES & THE 7 SOUNDS - Love-itis (V/A Shakin' Fit!, LP) PLEAZERS - Hurtin' all over (Definitely Pleazers, CD; Ascension) FIREWORKS - Baby go (7"; Human Fly) THE SYMPTOMES - Zijliet Mestaan (V/A Biet Het is prop! vol.2, CD; Distortions) STORMIES - Dilly Dilly (V/A Six Miles From the Cage vol.2, LP; Modal) JOHN HATTON & THE DEVOTIONS - I should be ashamed (V/A Diggin' For Gold vol.1, LP) PRETTY THINGS - Rosalyn (7"EP; Norton) JERRY NEAL - I hates rabbits (V/A The Madness Invasion vol.2, LP) SPELLING MISTAKES - Hate me, Hate me (7"; reissue) INSOMNIACS - Tomorrow is... (Get Something Going!, CD; Estrus) CRAZY TEENS - Crazy date (V/A Sin Alley vol.1, LP) This was the first and last show for January. Hopefully (there is no guarantee...) there will be a spot for "Our Little Rendez-vous" on the spring semester schedule of WHRB (95.3 FM, Cambridge, MA; www.whrb.org) and the show will start again on February (perhaps on a different time/day). I'll post the details to the list. Best wishes for a happy new year and thanks for tuning in! Dinos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:27:20 -0500 From: "Patricia Ragan Hoehner" Subject: Extry! Extry! Read all about it! For you NYawkers, the current NY Press has an interview with John Holmstrom by the ubiquitous George Tabb. The New Improved PUNK the Original will debut January 10, 2001. I would say that is plenty good reason to celebrate. So the 25th Anniversary and Resurrection Party on Jan 10 at CBGB will feature entertainment by Murphy's Law, Furious George and some very special guests. MC hammering will be provided by Glen Jones of WFMU fame. This just added: Mickey Leigh, Harry Slash and the Slashtones of ECW, Guest Hosts: ECW Wrestlers Balls Mahoney, Danny Doring & Roadkill, The FBI: Big Sal and Little Guido Battle of the Ex-Resident Punks: Legs McNeil with Big Fat Combo Jolly Prochink with The Hideous Sun Demons Look also for a celebratory song'r'two from us PepBoyz (John H, Jones, the General and the Denmom--thass me). It's gonna be great to have the old gang back together. If all this is not enough to get you to put your dancing Chucks on, try this on: it's not just a party, but a benefit as well for our favorite cause; Stop Prisoner Rape. (yes, really: go to www.spr.org for details) Our good friend Stephen Donaldson (Donny the Punk) was a good man with a great cause and all proceeds will go to his organization. Rest in peace, Donny. C ya there! P www.punkmagazine.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 17:52:33 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major - -----Original Message----- From: Iam Fuzzco To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:58 PM Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major >--- "BlackMonk (Tom,as always)" > wrote: > >> > Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with >> > categorising various types of music - >> > it happens in all other fields of art and science. >> >> Music isn't science, and 90% of the labels are >> subjective so they don't have >> the meaning they would in science. >> >> > Labelling things is how we understand the world >> > around us; giving names to ideas, >> >> Once you have the idea, what is it important to give >> it a name? > >So you can communicate that idea to someone who is >unfamiliar with it. So you can deliniate it from >other ideas. That's why we have names. They are >part of our identity. I think, though, that one of the major objections for those of us who are exasperated with the excessive proliferation of labels is that it's reaching a point where it makes communication more difficult, if not ridiculous, rather than simplifying things. I mean, jeeeeeeez, look what's in usage now: Ya got rock, heavy metal, speed metal, thrash, hard rock, acid rock, acid house, trip hop (is that MORE or LESS trippy than acid house?), hip hop, funk, electrofunk, electro boogie, disco, dance, jungle, tribal (is that the music of tribes that DON'T live in jungles?), Northern Soul (which doesn't reflect the region the music came from, but rather a small chunk of England where a hodge podge of songs from wherever happen to be popular), Southern Soul (which doesn't reflect where it's popular, but rather where it was made), garage vs. garage (60's and stuff that sounds like it vs. a sound popularized and associated with Larry Levan's excellent NYC dance club), freakbeat (do we really need subcategories of garage--ummm, 60's garage that is), punk vs. new wave (and RADIO new wave, which was music that blew by hairdo synth bands and had NOTHING to do with new wave as the term was originally used) vs. no wave, grunge, alternative, aggro, and emo (what the hell is THAT?!? I thought it was that geeky comic with the bad Prince Valiant--and didn't he used to play synth for Roxy Music??? What's that??? 'Nother guy entirely???) SHEESH!!! This is HELPING communication??? >> > or species of animals, etc. Jeesuss! >> >> An animal is definitely in a species or it isn't. > >Oh yeah, then what's a duck-billed platypus? What's a >quark, matter or energy? Believe me, science can be >just as subjective as rock music. By labeling or >categorizing something, it's an easy way to >communicate the idea. Easy, maybe, but is it clear??? And if it's not, is it communication? >> How many records are >> definitely garage, as opposed to punk, or rock, or >> freakbeat, or pop, or oldies? I dunno, I never counted. >So we just call it all "music" whether it's Beethoven >or Backstreet Boys? Dave Brubek or the Dead Boys? >Esquerita or Esqueviel? Good point, but all this is getting me to a reactionary point where I'm tempted to paraphrase Connie Marbles and say, "There's two kinds of music... MY kind of music... and crap!" Except I don't believe THAT, either. Ever since I realized years ago that disco DOESN'T suck (some does, some doesn't), I find myself hard pressed to trash any category of music, whether I LIKE it or NOT. (Boy I sure hate Celtic music, though--makes me feel like I'm in a frickkin' Lucky Charms ad! But that's just a PERSONAL thing). >Like in the rest of the world, I think that most >records can be fairly easily categorized. But, like >in science there are always exceptions to the rule. With all the cross influences in music, though, rather than make up an endless number of terms inadequate to reflect all the component influences in a song or an artist's sound, wouldn't it be better, to say nothing of less lazy, to just frickkin' take the time to DESCRIBE it, maybe with some specific detail??? >Please keep in mind tho, this whole rant started cause >someone had the gall to express his own opinion and >state that he wouldn't charaterize something as being >strictly "garage". The intent was being open minded. >Nobody said it should be strictly catagorized as one >thing and one thing alone. And therein lies part of the problem. Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 3 Jan 2001 18:05:41 -0800 From: "Astroboy" Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major My brother has figured a label to end all labels where I'm concerned. If it looks or sounds like something I like, it gets labelled "Raymond-vision". - ----- Original Message ----- From: Lenny Smith To: Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:52 PM Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Iam Fuzzco > To: bomp@xnet2.com > Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 1:58 PM > Subject: Re: Sorrow in C major > > >--- "BlackMonk (Tom,as always)" > > wrote: > > > >> > Incidentally, there's nothing wrong with > >> > categorising various types of music - > >> > it happens in all other fields of art and science. > >> > >> Music isn't science, and 90% of the labels are > >> subjective so they don't have > >> the meaning they would in science. > >> > >> > Labelling things is how we understand the world > >> > around us; giving names to ideas, > >> > >> Once you have the idea, what is it important to give > >> it a name? > > > >So you can communicate that idea to someone who is > >unfamiliar with it. So you can deliniate it from > >other ideas. That's why we have names. They are > >part of our identity. > > > I think, though, that one of the major objections for those of us who are > exasperated with the excessive proliferation of labels is that it's reaching > a point where it makes communication more difficult, if not ridiculous, > rather than simplifying things. > > I mean, jeeeeeeez, look what's in usage now: Ya got rock, heavy metal, > speed metal, thrash, hard rock, acid rock, acid house, trip hop (is that > MORE or LESS trippy than acid house?), hip hop, funk, electrofunk, electro > boogie, disco, dance, jungle, tribal (is that the music of tribes that DON'T > live in jungles?), Northern Soul (which doesn't reflect the region the music > came from, but rather a small chunk of England where a hodge podge of songs > from wherever happen to be popular), Southern Soul (which doesn't reflect > where it's popular, but rather where it was made), garage vs. garage (60's > and stuff that sounds like it vs. a sound popularized and associated with > Larry Levan's excellent NYC dance club), freakbeat (do we really need > subcategories of garage--ummm, 60's garage that is), punk vs. new wave (and > RADIO new wave, which was music that blew by hairdo synth bands and had > NOTHING to do with new wave as the term was originally used) vs. no wave, > grunge, alternative, aggro, and emo (what the hell is THAT?!? I thought it > was that geeky comic with the bad Prince Valiant--and didn't he used to play > synth for Roxy Music??? What's that??? 'Nother guy entirely???) SHEESH!!! > This is HELPING communication??? > > >> > or species of animals, etc. Jeesuss! > >> > >> An animal is definitely in a species or it isn't. > > > >Oh yeah, then what's a duck-billed platypus? What's a > >quark, matter or energy? Believe me, science can be > >just as subjective as rock music. By labeling or > >categorizing something, it's an easy way to > >communicate the idea. > > > Easy, maybe, but is it clear??? And if it's not, is it communication? > > >> How many records are > >> definitely garage, as opposed to punk, or rock, or > >> freakbeat, or pop, or oldies? > > > I dunno, I never counted. > > >So we just call it all "music" whether it's Beethoven > >or Backstreet Boys? Dave Brubek or the Dead Boys? > >Esquerita or Esqueviel? > > Good point, but all this is getting me to a reactionary point where I'm > tempted to paraphrase Connie Marbles and say, "There's two kinds of music... > MY kind of music... and crap!" Except I don't believe THAT, either. Ever > since I realized years ago that disco DOESN'T suck (some does, some > doesn't), I find myself hard pressed to trash any category of music, whether > I LIKE it or NOT. (Boy I sure hate Celtic music, though--makes me feel like > I'm in a frickkin' Lucky Charms ad! But that's just a PERSONAL thing). > > >Like in the rest of the world, I think that most > >records can be fairly easily categorized. But, like > >in science there are always exceptions to the rule. > > > With all the cross influences in music, though, rather than make up an > endless number of terms inadequate to reflect all the component influences > in a song or an artist's sound, wouldn't it be better, to say nothing of > less lazy, to just frickkin' take the time to DESCRIBE it, maybe with some > specific detail??? > > >Please keep in mind tho, this whole rant started cause > >someone had the gall to express his own opinion and > >state that he wouldn't charaterize something as being > >strictly "garage". The intent was being open minded. > >Nobody said it should be strictly catagorized as one > >thing and one thing alone. > > > And therein lies part of the problem. > > Lenny > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2001 #7 *************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com