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Here's what people are yacking about in this digest:
   Re:Canola Oil Not For Human Consumption
     Nancyneon01@aol.com
   Re: 60s goodmusic
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: Melbourne
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: the horror of the '80s
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: Hair-do's
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: Aussie stuff
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Roky Erickson egroup
     Heyjoerein@aol.com
   Re: Canola Oil Not For Human Consumption
     Rat Pfink <ratpfink@akamail.com>
   Maybe why the Zombies weren't more popular...
     "James Bond" <jamesbond@bond-partners.com>
   Misses
     "James Bond" <jamesbond@bond-partners.com>
   Re:  Nuggets from the Golden State CD series
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re:  Re: Sorrow in C major
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re: Canola Oil Not For Human Consumption
     Moparlary@aol.com
   January 2 to 6
     Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl
   RE: chain stores
     "nipper@thestranger.com" <nipper@thestranger.com>
   RE: chain stores
     Moparlary@aol.com
   RE: there's no such thing as 60's punk?
     Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
   Tune In today...
     "Lenny Smith" <lpsmith@gwi.net>
   Re: Maundy Maundy
     Mekios <cmekios@bu.edu>
   Re: Misses
     Mekios <cmekios@bu.edu>
   Re: Nuggets From The Golden State
     ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net>
   Lewd in Seattle!!
     Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
   "Yellow River" by Christie
     David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
   Re: help with that beagle
     David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
   Again with the beagle!
     David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
   Re: Honeycombs
     David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
   Re: Best Finds Of 2000
     David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
   Sounds Like A HIT
     David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
   Re: "Yellow River" by Christie
     Andies Candies <chumley_bear@yahoo.com>
   Re: Maybe why the Zombies weren't more popular...
     Euphorik6@aol.com
   Scramarama!
     Kim Cooper <scram@bubblegum.net>
   RE: NZ and Aussie stuff
     "Gilbert, Mark  (SLSA)" <Gilbert.Mark@slsa.sa.gov.au>

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 06:13:07 EST
From: Nancyneon01@aol.com
Subject: Re:Canola Oil Not For Human Consumption

Don't use Canola oil. It is toxic. Safflower oil is a good alternative. For 
info on the ill effects of Canola oil go to http://www.askjeeves.com/ and 
type in "where does Canola oil come from?" This oil may have been a 
contributory factor in the Mad Cow Disease. --NN

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 01 23:13:11 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: 60s goodmusic

>From: "Mike Markesich" <moptopmike@mindspring.com>
>Subject: Re:  Oz/NZ punk
>
>>Couldn't have put it better myself - of course, grammar has never been my 
>strong point. I've said before on this list that Ugly Things #1 (issued 
>in 1980, before some of you kids were born) is the best ever '60s punk 
>comp. And none dared argue.
>- - -Peter M
>
>Peter, doncha know there's no such thing as 60's punk?
>And when is Mr. Schmoe coming out of retirement for another comp?
>
>MopTop Mike

Ya got me there! Old habits die hard. There is another American reissue 
in the works as we speak, but it's not NORTH American time...
- -Peter M

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 01 23:20:16 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: Melbourne

>From: "Gilbert, Mark  (SLSA)" <Gilbert.Mark@slsa.sa.gov.au>
>Subject: Melbourne
>
>Is there anyone from Melbourne Australia that can give me some info on shops
>(records/clothes) that would be worth visiting in that fair city?
>
>And what interesting gigs may be on later in February?
>
>Mark
>
>Hope someone can help!

I think AC/DC will be on then! 
And visit Tony at Goldmine Records which is in North Carlton for a 
plethora of well-priced 60s comps - and perhaps Greville Street Records, 
which is, surprisingly, on Greville Street. There's also a shop called 
Missing Link, although I don't think it's as cool as the name implies.
- -Peter M

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 01 23:28:31 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: the horror of the '80s

>Saying something is "Bomp-worthy" is description enough 
>for me.  Of course, that won't work for much of the world, so 
>when I'm trying to describe music to a non-Bomper, I usually say 
>something along the lines of "if you like such-and-such, then you'll 
>like this".  Or, "it kinda sounds like so-and-so".  And then say something 
>about who the musicians are, etc.  That usually gets the point across 
>without trying to deal with nonsensical labels.  

I remember in the mid-80s it was very hip for local bands to say they 
didn't fit into any recognisable musical category. In fact, there was an 
epidemic of similar-sounding like-minded people all saying how they were 
totally original, doin' their own thing...
- -Peter

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 01 23:37:49 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: Hair-do's

>Also,
>can anyone tell me why alot of 60s american bands always had their hair
>parted to one side, where as english ones didn't? 
>Hmmm, whatever
>
>JS Freakbeat

I wish I knew....I really just can't figure that one out...
- -Peter M

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 01 23:43:43 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: Aussie stuff

>From: JS Freakbeat <dwoolaway@adelaide.on.net>
>Subject: Re:NZ and Aussie stuff
>
>Its interesting reading about peoples different veiws on the different
>compilations of australian garage stuff and all that. And yes i agree that
>it is the best stuff in the world, and as well as having a garage and
>freakbeat sound, alot of it also has that australian surf sound about it-
>most noticable on many of the songs on the Devil's Children comp. My
>favourite Australian bands from then are the Throb and the Decoys. 

Interesting views, and all of your points are correct. I wonder just what 
it was that made the Aussie '60s garage bands the world's best? Fosters 
Lager?
- -Peter M

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 08:46:10 EST
From: Heyjoerein@aol.com
Subject: Roky Erickson egroup

An Invitation To Join The Roky Erickson Community

Roky@eGroups.com! 

http://www.egroups.com/group/Roky

We are the premier Roky Erickson discussion, and resources, Community. 
Come here to meet and interact with other fans of Roky Erickson & 
the Thirteenth Floor Elevators. If you have not done so, you must first 
register with eGroups. Then you can join our community. It's great in here! 

We have all the links under one location. Our File Libary is chocked full of 
information and images. We also have an on going CD Club that takes the 
best recordings, cleans them up, burns them to CD, and distributes them to 
ALL of the Club Members! This is done for the cost of a blank CD, postage, 
and a pre-arranged fee to Roky's Estate. Yow! 

Post messages onto our Interactive Message Board. Chat with friends 
(in real time) in our Chat Room. Participate in online interviews of former 
band members and others. If you like Roky Erickson you will love this 
Community. 

Join now!   http://www.egroups.com/group/Roky
 

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 08:47:28 -0500
From: Rat Pfink <ratpfink@akamail.com>
Subject: Re: Canola Oil Not For Human Consumption

Sounds like a classic email hoax. In fact, check out:

http://www.urbanmyths.com/email_canolaoil.html

Don't believe everything you read on the Internet.


At 06:13 AM 1/4/01 EST, you wrote:
>
>Don't use Canola oil. It is toxic. Safflower oil is a good alternative. For 
>info on the ill effects of Canola oil go to http://www.askjeeves.com/ and 
>type in "where does Canola oil come from?" This oil may have been a 
>contributory factor in the Mad Cow Disease. --NN


- -----------------------------------
| Rat Pfink  ratpfink@akamail.com |
- -----------------------------------

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 09:21:09 +0000
From: "James Bond" <jamesbond@bond-partners.com>
Subject: Maybe why the Zombies weren't more popular...

After listening to the Zombies a lot as of late, ONE of the reasons I think
they weren't more popular at the time was that writing wise, they didn't
seem to build up their singles as....singles.

Confusing? Well, look at most of the hits from that period and you'll notice
a distinctive riff as a lead in ( i.e., You Really Got Me, Paint it Black,
Dirty Water + a million others) or there were intentionally very catchy
almost novelty sounds or sections to each hit (Mrs. Brown, Western Union,
For Your Love + a million others)

After the initial SOUND of the band was no longer something new (post 'She's
Not There) and the weird meter of 'Tell Her No' - most of the band's 64-67
output comes across as extremely, extremely proficient album tracks.

They seemed to recognize this for Odessey and Oracle, and the resulting hit
"Time of the Season" as well as the rest of the album, is really a good
example of what I'm trying to say.

James B.

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 09:28:10 +0000
From: "James Bond" <jamesbond@bond-partners.com>
Subject: Misses

>  & how in the world was "whenever you're ready" not a hit? that is my 
> all-time number-one nominee in the "songs that deserved to be a hit but
> weren't" category.


Mine would have to be 'Abba' (forget the name of the band...someone fill me
in).

You would think some astute manager would have picked that up as a demo for
one of the 'major' groups of the time. I can just imagine someone like the
American Breed absolutely DYING for such a number.

James B.

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:52:12 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Nuggets from the Golden State CD series

check out the the ace/big beat website.

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 10:36:53 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re:  Re: Sorrow in C major

what's so wrong with using categories to give a general idea of sound when 
talking about music on-list? is it so horrible to describe/introduce 
something in the most basic, quick-to-the-point terms like freakbeat, 
garage-rock, garage-punk, brit-r&b, country-rock, soul, rockabilly, and so 
on? shit, it gives people a basic idea of where the music falls and then with 
more research the details of the sound fall into place. for example, if 
someone mentioned the sorrows or the attack on list, and said they were a 
freakbeat band, yeah, it would be pigeonholing them, but it would also give a 
general idea to many of what they might sound like and if they're worth 
investigating further.

(sorry if my writing ain't the clearest, but i'm still fighting the flu.)

lee sound views
- ---
http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html
(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 10:55:15 EST
From: Moparlary@aol.com
Subject: Re: Canola Oil Not For Human Consumption

OK, so vegetable oil was bad cause of the nasty chemicals used to extract 
every last drop of squishy stuff out of the plant, peanut oil is fattening 
and now canola is only fit to lube that squeaky screen door, after we were 
told it was our cooking oil savior.
 That's it, I'm going back to cooking with Quaker State 10W-40. At least i 
won't suffer from visocity break down.
   another coffee inspired moment....Moparlary 

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:37:33 +0100
From: Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl
Subject: January 2 to 6

Good day to everybody & a Happy U-Year to all!!

Popped into the office this afternoon, to see some digests and decided to
also give you a few more historics, so here goes:

On January 2, in

1963, the Beach Boys recorded "Punchline", in Los Angeles;
1968, the Mike Stuart Span recorded "Concerto of thoughts" at R.G. Jones'
Studios in Morden, England;
1969, the Sandpebbles (later known as C & the Shells) recorded "Come on
people" and "We can change it", in New York.

On January 3, in

1950, Robert Nighthawk recorded "Good news", "Jackson Town gal", "Prison
bound" and "Six three O" at Chicago's Chess Studios;
1964, the Rolling Stones recorded "Carol", "Mona (I need you baby)", "Route
66", "Walking the dog" and "You can make it if you try" at London's Regent
Studios;
1966, Paul Revere & the Raiders recorded "Kicks" at Los Angeles' Columbia
Studios;
1966, the Trashmen recorded "Bird Diddley beat', "Hanging on me", "It takes
two", "Mind your own business", "Pretty country girl" and "Same lines" at
Pasadena Sound Studios in Pasadena TX;
1969, the Free recorded "Broad daylight" and "The worm" at London's Morgan
Recording Studios. These were the A & B of their debut single, in March,
1969. "Broad daylight" also found it's way onto the Free's second untitled
lp;
1970, the Beatles proved they could still record a song in one day: "I me
mine" was put to tape at London's Abbey Road. Only the orchestra was added
by Phil Spector, on April 1. I ain't foolin' ya!

On January 4 (that's today), in

1958, Little Willie John recorded "Spasms" and "Talk to me, talk to me" at
New York's King Studios;
1959, Jimmy Witherspoon recorded "Goin' down slow", in Kansas City;
1962, Jerry Lee Lewis recorded "High powered woman", "I know what it
means", "I've been twistin'" and "Whole lotta twistin' goin' on" at
Memphis' Sun Studios;
1966, Paul Revere & the Raiders recorded "I'm not your stepping stone" at
Los Angeles' Columbia Studios;
1967, James Brown recorded "Time after time" at New York's Belltone
Studios;
1968, the Who recorded "Faith in something bigger" at London's CBS Studios.
The song would remain unreleased until 1974, when it was included in "Odds
& sods";
1969, Fleetwood Mac spent a day at Chicago's Chess Studios. And was it a
day well spent! Later in 1969 103 minutes worth of the recorded stuff were
deemed good enough to be released as the double lp "Blues jam at Chess",
re-released thu' Sire in 1975 as "Fleetwood Mac in Chicago". 1999 saw the
release of 144 minutes in the great box "The complete Blue Horizon sessions
1967 - 1969". Present that day were Peter, Jeremy, Danny, John and Mick of
Fleetwood Mac, as well as Chess recording artists Walter Horton, Buddy Guy
(for legal reasons called Guitar Buddy), Honey Boy Edwards, Willie Dixon,
J.T. Brown, S.P. Leary and Otis Spann. When that time machine finally comes
around, I know my destination! This might well have been the most
productive recording session in history... Anybody?
1969, Jimi Hendrix recorded a session for BBC TV's "A happening for Lulu",
broadcast live. Scheduled were "Voodoo chile" and "Hey Joe". At some moment
during "Hey Joe" Hendrix decided that enough was enough and burst into
Cream's "Sunshine of your love", thus fucking up the production-team's
tight time table, already slightly affected by Hendrix' choice to slowly
free-wheel into "Hey Joe". He was bluntly put off the air... Wonder how
long it took Lulu to get rid of her nightmares...
1970, James Brown recorded "Georgia on my mind" at Cincinnati's King
Studios;
1974, James Brown recorded "Lost someone" at Los Angeles' United Artists
Studios;
1975, James Brown recorded "Kansas City '75" at New York's A&R Studios.

On January 5, in

1964, the Rip Chords recorded "Gas money" at Los Angeles' Columbia Studios;
1965, the Beau Brummels recorded an alternate version of "Just a little" at
San Francisco's Coast Recorders. For their debut album they stuck to their
November 3, 1964 version;
1966, Jerry Lee Lewis recorded "Rockin' Jerry Lee", in Memphis;
1985, Lou Reed played a gig in Rotterdam, Holland, at Ahoy;
1994, Nirvana played a gig at Seattle's Center Arena. "Milk it" from that
show ended up on "From the muddy banks of the Wishkah".

On January 6, in

1978, Ivy Green, Dutch Punk Rockers, spent a few hours at Soundpush Studios
in Blaricum, Holland, to record their untitled debut lp. One of the songs
on that lp is "I'm sure we're gonna make it", which was also the title of a
cd Jeroen (Chiswick, as always) compiled on Dutch Punk Rock from 1977 to
1982, accompanying a book (as yet only available in Dutch!) on the same
subject. Jeroen was also involved in that. This cd was booted thru' a
double lp, known as "Killed by Epitaph";
1982, the Jam recorded "Just who is the 5 o'clock hero?" and "Running on
the spot" at London's Air Studios.

Yeah, I took another week off, to bury myself in music, which was an
absolute pleasure. Nexy Monday my official working year starts, so for now
it's goodnight and have a great weekend!

L8er,
Jan.

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:29:55 -0800
From: "nipper@thestranger.com" <nipper@thestranger.com>
Subject: RE: chain stores

> It just doesn't pay for the Average Joe with mainstream tastes to shop at
> indie  stores. Indies usually pay more for new releases than the big chains
> charge  retail, because of steep volume discounts. The indies simply can't
> compete on price alone.

Weird...which chain stores are you referring to?  I'm curious as I've never
found major chain stores any cheaper, or any more convenient than indie
stores (the stock ALWAYS sucks, er...at least for me as I don't buy "best
of" collections or newer pop)...but I don't have "mainstream" tastes.  Too,
maybe I've just been lucky in regard to shopping as I TRY to buy very few
CDs, still I've found most local mom'n pops retail new "product" (CD/LP)
for $11/$14 range (domestic), while I've seen Tower, Wherehouse, Boarders
etc generally sell new product $16/$18 range (including new domestic LPs @
$15!).  There is certainly price gouging by "exclusively" CD chain stores,
not that mom'n pops are free from guilt of being excessive either...and
those places (Walmart, Best Buy, Kmart) which sell other things can differ
loss by hyperinflating prices on other items.  As a general rule I buy from
mom'n pops exclusively...even if its a little more expensive..., kinda like
buying organic produce.  As for "steep volume discounts"...I don't think
the industry works like that, well, not very often.  Though there may very
well be some discounting for certain larger orders, and stuff can be on
"sale" at the wholesale level, but the average consumer rarely sees this
reflected in retail cost as that cash is a bonus for the stores.  Also
wholesale discount could be used as a "distro incentive" for product which
needs "help" (a bit of the payola?) to get untested product on the store's
shelves, etc.

xo nipper

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 12:35:37 EST
From: Moparlary@aol.com
Subject: RE: chain stores

I think the worst offender has to be the Sam Goody chain, followed by 
Borders, which seem to offer everyhting at list price except for the 
chartbusters, which I'm not interested in.  
  Give me indie shops...Moparlary 

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 09:58:43 -0800 
From: Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
Subject: RE: there's no such thing as 60's punk?

<Peter, doncha know there's no such thing as 60's punk?>
Mike, you need to go over to alt.banana-truffle and make that statement
right now!!

Alan 

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:48:07 -0500
From: "Lenny Smith" <lpsmith@gwi.net>
Subject: Tune In today...

If you're at the computer this afternoon, tune in to www.wmpg.org if you're
so inclined.  The dj from 3-5 pm has asked me to bring some stuff in to
spin, and I promise, whatever we end up with, it WILL be "Bomp-worthy."

Lenny

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:51:29 -0500 (EST)
From: Mekios <cmekios@bu.edu>
Subject: Re: Maundy Maundy

On Wed, 3 Jan 2001, Jeffrey Lemlich wrote:

> 
> Dinos wrote:  <<THE TWELFTH NIGHT - 2's better than 3 (V/A Psychedelic
> States
> vol.1: Florida, CD; Gear Fab)>>
> 
> Now that would be a treat -- hearing the "Grim Reaper" gang tear into this
> moody Maundy Quintet tune!

I wish I could have created such a monster! But no; the historical facts 
remain the same Jeff! It was the Maundy Quintet that did "2's Better Than
3".
Zero mistakes are better than 1...(or 2, or 3...)

Dinos
 

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 14:05:55 -0500 (EST)
From: Mekios <cmekios@bu.edu>
Subject: Re: Misses

On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, James Bond wrote:

> Mine would have to be 'Abba' (forget the name of the band...someone fill me
> in).

Do you mean the Paragons' song?

Dinos

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 11:56:28 -0700
From: ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net>
Subject: Re: Nuggets From The Golden State

>

You can try the Ace Records site:  http://www.acerecords.co.uk

you might also email Alec at: palao@sirius.com to get on his mailing list. I get flyers from him when there is something coming out.

He really has done the business, but I think they are getting down to the bottom of the barrel. There are a couple of things he talked about that haven't seen the light like the Stained Glass and Otherside/Bogus Thunder.


RS



>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 03 Jan 2001 21:35:40 -0000
> From: "Abra Kadabra" <vict_66@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Nuggets from the Golden State CD series
>
> Does anyone know of a website that has information about what has
> been released on the Nuggets from the Golden State CD series?
> Any info would be appreciated.
>
> _________________________________________________________________
>
>

- --
- -- The Donovan's Brain Web Site:
http://www.btinternet.com/~manband.archive/brains/index.html

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:40:53 -0800 
From: Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
Subject: Lewd in Seattle!!

The Lewd return to Seattle!!!!
January 11th/12th, 2001 - The Breakroom 

The Lewd, one of  Seattle's first punk bands will be playing two select
nights at The Breakroom . This is the first time the band has played in
Seattle in almost 20 years!  The Lewd, who were formed in 1977 by singer J.
Sats Baret, terrorized Seattle audiences for three years before the band
moved to San Francisco in 1980, eventually breaking up in 1983. In 1998,
local label Chuckie Boy Records released a Lewd anthology CD which contained
their rare-as-fuck 1979 D.I.Y. single, their 1982 LP, and a slew of
unreleased material cut between 1978-82.  With the release of the CD, Sats
and Bob Clic reformed the bandf to play some CD release shows, leading to a
more permanent reformation and more shows. Two years later, they got it
together  to play some Northwest dates, including the two shows at The
Breakroom.  January 11th will feature special guests The Fartz, another
early Seattle punk band recently reformed, plus two up and coming Seattle
garage-punk combos, the Reckless Bastards and The Harpys.  The Reckless
Bastards feature former members of The Derelicts and The Castros, while The
Harpys include Seattle legend James Burdyshaw of Catbutt/64 Spiders/Sinister
Six fame. January 12th will feature special guests Poison Idea and the
Riffs. Tickets are $8.  


Alan Wright
Freelance Rock 'n' Roll Writer
1011 Boren Ave., #114
Seattle, WA 98104

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 11:54:09 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
Subject: "Yellow River" by Christie

What's wrong with "Yellow River" by Christie?? It's a
great song, a song that doesn't get played on oldies
radio nearly enough anymore. I used to hear it all the
time and when I most recently heard it on the radio I
had to look all over to find out who it was and when
it came out. I asked the question on
rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1960s and some stickler for
parameters chided me for asking about a '70s song I
didn't even know wasn't from the '60s.

Anyway, not long ago I found a copy of the "Yellow
River" album in Allegro Music in Portsmouth, Ohio
(home of the Bare Facts of "Bad Part Of Town" fame).
It's a solid album with a softer Creedence feel to it.
Oddly enough, it's an English trio trying to sound
like a California band all around. But still some good
songs.

I may be biased because I like bubblegum and harmony
pop. I even like a lot of the pre-disco '70s "sludge"
like "The Night Chicago Died," "Billy Don't Be A
Hero," and "Saturday Night." So "Yellow River" isn't
too far off for me. I hope I'm not the only one.

Dave

__________________________________________________

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:10:43 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: help with that beagle

I think there have been several Christmas compilations
out that have included the Royal Guardsmen's "Snoopy's
Christmas." I have the one with "Jingle The Christmas
Mouse" and the other kiddie tunes. Was the original
"Snoopy's Christmas" only a single?

Anyway, a couple years ago in a Super KMart I found a
CD called "Snoopy's Christmas by the Royal Guardsmen."
This was included in the usual Christmas bargain
CDs/cassettes. As such, it had a plain cover with a
picture of Snoopy and the Sopwith Camel, and a single
sheet tray inlay with no liner notes.

But the surprise was this, not only did it have
"Snoopy's Christmas" and a non-Snoopy-related
Christmas song called "It Kinda Looks Like Christmas,"
it had all the "Snoopy" followups, plus a half-dozen
covers of late-'60s pop songs, all by the Royal
Guardsmen. These included "Simon Says," "Road Runner"
(ala Pretty Things, with the exception of a goofy
horn), and "Little Red Riding Hood." None of these are
on the other Royal Guardsmen CD I have (Australian
import). I'm pretty sure the covers were spread out
over other RG LPs. It couldn't be a straight reissue
could it, since all the Snoopy songs are on it? I
don't think it could have even been a "best of"
because that would have to at least include "Baby
Let's Wait."

Anyway, next Christmas, if you see this CD in the
local bargain bin, don't pass it up.

Dave

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:21:02 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Again with the beagle!

Thanks Maureen for the Royal Guardsmen details. The
import CD I have ("Best Of The Royal Guardsmen") has
good sound quality, something One Way isn't exactly
known for. It has 20 tracks and maybe except for a
couple tracks, the selection is nearly identical.
There isn't much in the way of liner notes, and only a
small picture of the actual group included in the
two-page foldout.

"Snoopy For President" is a great song, and I played
it a lot around election time, and even after because
of the recount. I contemplated trying to retool the
lyrics to reflect current events but I couldn't do it.
The song, however, begs the question: how could a
German fighter pilot, who shot down 80 men who "tried
to end his spree," gain American citizenship and vote
in the '68 election? Oddly enough, the Royal Guardsmen
were from Florida, where all this mess was centered.
Wonder who they voted for??

You forgot to mention "The Smallest Astronaut," where
Snoopy volunteers for a decoy space flight to throw
off the Russians while Armstrong and company land on
the moon. At the end, a voice names off the astronauts
of the Apollo space program, ending with the names of
the three who died in that '67 launchpad fire in
Apollo 1.

Dave

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:29:01 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Honeycombs

My favorite Honeycombs song is "I Can't Stop," simply
because I got a very good copy of the single, complete
with picture sleeve, for a buck. At a record show no
less! Is it worth no more than that?

I was disappointed to find that neither side of the
single was a version of same-name songs, "I Can't
Stop" by the Turtles/Roulettes or "I'll Cry Tomorrow"
by the Searchers (the flipside). The Honeycombs also
appear in that "Pop Gear" film, doing "Have I The
Right" and another song. What was that other song?
That stinging guitar solo is one of the weirdest, most
painfully beautiful solos out there. Strike up another
for Mr. Joe Meek...

Dave

PS There was a 2-on-1 reissue of "Honeycombs" and "All
Systems Go" on Repertoire Records a while back which
still may be available...


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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 12:43:12 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Best Finds Of 2000

Funny Brian Marshall should mention having "Run For
Your Life" by the Pair Extraordinaire. My first LP
purchase of 2001, indeed of the real new millenium,
was the "'In'-Citement" LP by the Pair Extraordinaire,
which includes "Run For Your Life" and some other
1965-vintage covers, all done in an odd but appealing
style. No guitars, no percussion, just two guys
singing to the accompaniment of an upright bass. Kind
of like two folky soul brothers. Funky and folky. The
liner notes were written by comedian Bill Cosby, who
met the Pair when they performed on the same bill at
the legendary Hungry I.

Really interesting LP. Found it in a Goodwill store,
where it leaped out among the Andy Williams and gospel
LPs. I also saw, but passed on, an LP called "From
Bach To Rock: A Salute To The 150th Anniversary Of
Gas," by some orchestra. The title alone is cheesy as
hell.

Dave

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:16:00 -0800 (PST)
From: David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Sounds Like A HIT

I think we're onto something here. Where is the
definitive book/discography project on soundalike
records? I've learned more about Hit records in the
past week than I've known since I started looking them
up. Obviously people know more about the people on
these discs than previously let on.

And it's fascinating to find out that Hit Records has
such a close relationship to Ronny & The Daytonas. And
then remember that the Hombres ("Let It All Hang Out")
evolved from a touring version of Ronny & The
Daytonas. Think of it...if it wasn't for anonymous
studio hacks aping the current hits for the discount
stores, we might have missed out on one of the great
garage rock novelties of the era, not to mention an
oft-played hot rodder classic.

Hit Records are legendary in the field of low-budget
rerecordings. Right up there with the Brits' "Top Of
The Pops" LPs (featuring one-time beatster Tony
Rivers) and those "Beetle Beat" variations. I've heard
some that were truly horrible, viz "16 Top Hits Of The
Week" on the Award label, featuring tone-deaf,
rhythmically-challenged versions of "Do The Freddie,"
"Ferry Cross The Mersey," "Engine Engine No. 9," and
"Fun Fun Fun," among others.

I think it's time the players on these discs surfaced
and told their story. Let's reunite the Cords, the
Chellows, and the Jalopy V (although each group may
have to accomodate 10 different people, and some would
probably have to play for each set). Let's do a series
of Hit compilations. Let's get Lou Reed to own up to
all the bogus surf/hotrod and Merseybeat albums he
appeared on before the Velvet Underground. Let's find
out how many former one-hit wonders or future
hitmakers once had to sing like the Beatles to pay the
rent.

Someone write a book, at least...

Dave

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 13:13:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Andies Candies <chumley_bear@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: "Yellow River" by Christie

 I don't remember "Yellow River" BUT I have always had a soft spot for "Billy Don't be a Hero"!!!!  It's one of the songs that I used to sing to the dogs at the animal shelter I worked at (don't ask me why; I don't know!  Dawgs just LOVE to be sung to!)  My ex-roomie (who worked with me) and I used to also sing "Viva Las Vegas" as "Viva Los Gatos"!

Andrea


  David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com> wrote: 

I may be biased because I like bubblegum and harmony
pop. I even like a lot of the pre-disco '70s "sludge"
like "The Night Chicago Died," "Billy Don't Be A
Hero," and "Saturday Night." So "Yellow River" isn't
too far off for me. I hope I'm not the only one.

Dave

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Date: Thu, 4 Jan 2001 17:42:49 EST
From: Euphorik6@aol.com
Subject: Re: Maybe why the Zombies weren't more popular...

In a message dated 1/4/01 9:32:02 AM, jamesbond@bond-partners.com writes:

<< After listening to the Zombies a lot as of late, ONE of the reasons I think
they weren't more popular at the time was that writing wise, they didn't
seem to build up their singles as....singles. >>

    i disagree - i really think that "whenever you're ready" is one of the 
most brilliantly constructed pop songs of the sixties - great melody, superb 
lead singing, & that totally cool descending chord thing into the 
middle-eight ("but if you call me..."). this thing was just screaming for 
am-radio. totally catchy, totally memorable.
    same goes for "indication," too - though that one may have been a bit too 
way-out at the time of its release, with the weirdo soloing thing for the 
last minute or so...
    but still, i'd day "whenever you're ready" is an absolutely perfect pop 
single, and easily rates with the beatles and stones offerings for 1965!

rob

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Date: Thu, 04 Jan 2001 14:52:52 -0800
From: Kim Cooper <scram@bubblegum.net>
Subject: Scramarama!

If you could possibly find yourself in Southern California around
Hallowe'en, please take a peak at the Scram webpage (link below) for the
announcement of our Scramarama festival of unpopular culture.  It's
still in the planning stages, but we just couldn't keep some of the
exciting things we have in store for you a secret any longer.

Kim Cooper
Editrix

- --
Scram
PO Box 461626
Hollywood, CA 90046-1626
http://www.scram-magazine.com
visit the Bubblegum Book page at http://www.bubblegum-music.com

Out now Scram #13, featuring Arizona novelty-garage faves Hub Kapp and
the Wheels, The Shocking Blue, Mark Farner--American!, fab new Gearhead
Records group Red Planet, the Mooney Suzuki, Neil Hamburger, Gene
Sculatti on Dylan wannabes, guys who sound like girls, the last days of
Ohio tiki palace the Kahiki, weird secrets of Thai cuisine, and plenty
more.

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Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2001 09:27:26 +1030 
From: "Gilbert, Mark  (SLSA)" <Gilbert.Mark@slsa.sa.gov.au>
Subject: RE: NZ and Aussie stuff

The surf sound is also much to the fore in the more pop/beat stuff -
especially Ray Brown and the Whispers. My favourite track of theirs is Go To
Him  - the guitar has such a twang to it, it must have been recorded in
fully tiled bathroom! And great organ too!
It has been said a few times that bands like the Whispers, Aztecs etc looked
around for a singer when the surf music boom wiped out - but obviously they
still loved that fender sound.

Oh and JS, re your CosmicBreed query a few days ago - I meant to reply.
Sharon there is really good to deal with and the clothes are good quality.
She will also tailor to your requirements. You can send for a catalogue that
has a lot more stuff than appears on the website

cheers

Mark

From: JS Freakbeat <dwoolaway@adelaide.on.net>
Its interesting reading about peoples different veiws on the different
compilations of australian garage stuff and all that. And yes i agree that
it is the best stuff in the world, and as well as having a garage and
feakbeat sound, alot of it also has that australian surf sound about it-
most noticable on many of the songs on the Devil's Children comp. My
favourite Australian bands from then are the Throb and the Decoys. Also,
can anyone tell me why alot of 60s american bands always had their hair
parted to one side, where as english ones didn't? 
Hmmm, whatever

JS Freakbeat

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