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bomp-digest         Tuesday, January 9 2001         Volume 2001 : Number 026



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   Re: Placebo
     karl roper <karlr_@yahoo.com>
   Re: Is it me or what?
     "Laurent Bigot" <jerk@club-internet.fr>
   Re: Is it me or what?
     "Laurent Bigot" <jerk@club-internet.fr>
   Don't Diss Skidoo!
     Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com>
   Daddy Cool
     Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com>
   Re: Tommy Lives At Leeds
     ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net>
   Cécilia & ses Ennuis
     TSanc43763@aol.com
   Re: Don't Diss Skidoo!
     "Bryan Thomas" <promo@del-fi.com>
   January 9
     Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl
   Re: Don't Diss Skidoo!
     "Lenny Smith" <lpsmith@gwi.net>
   The Surf Teens (was Re: It is me or what?)
     "ALFREDO FIORENTINI" <fredrap@ifree.it>
   Re: Aussie bands - all you ever wanted to know...
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: 60s CDs par excellence
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 21:48:08 -0800 (PST)
From: karl roper <karlr_@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Placebo

<< So anyone heard Placebo?  >>

<<    karl -
    i haven't - but if they're worse than rush, this
certainly demands 
elucidation; details, please!

rob>>

Rob, they're an English 'alternative' outfit who
people went nuts over for about 5 minutes a while
back. With one of those 'androgynous' lead guys that
the Brits tend to produce every so often (ala Suede &
whoever else you may choose to name) & think is
somewhat of a revolution in rock'n'roll. I only make
the Rush comparison 'cos when I first heard them I
could have sworn it was Rush because of the lead guy's
voice. Someone might want to call me out on that one,
but I hadn't heard Rush for a long time (they barely
made a dent down here in Australia) & I could have
sworn it was them. That same fucking whine that sounds
like fingernails down a blackboard.
Karl.

__________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:19:45 +0100
From: "Laurent Bigot" <jerk@club-internet.fr>
Subject: Re: Is it me or what?

>
> what songs are on the Radio Shanghi single and what label is it on?
>


The Honeycomb's Have I the right plus an original Artificial work (it's on
Target Earth). It's more new wave than the 1st 2 EPs (may be there's even
more, anyone knows?).

Laurent

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 19:13:17 +0100
From: "Laurent Bigot" <jerk@club-internet.fr>
Subject: Re: Is it me or what?

>
> I agree with Laurent...Why waste time and space talkin' 'bout shit, when
> there's so much good music out there. So what's shakin' in France Laurent?
> Any cool new french bands?
> -dv


In Paris it's almost impossible to find shows but we have a few good bands.
The best of last year were les Dragueurs ,Terribles and Blutt. I was lucky
with one of my 2 bands (Cécilia & ses Ennuis) cause we did 3 EPs & about  10
shows, but my other band Anteenagers MC only did 1 show & that's it (at
least, practices are extremely fun). We hope to record this year.

All the bands are heavily influenced by 60s sounds but with various other
influences. Most of them sing in French (which was unusual for french bands
in the 90s).

Laurent

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:49:24 -0800
From: Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com>
Subject: Don't Diss Skidoo!

>So on the shelf with "Skidoo" and "Smashing Time," try and stock a copy of
>"The Phynx," a ridiculous spy spoof featuring some very forgettable
>Leiber/Stoller songs (the band-in-the-movie's big hit is "What Is Your
>Sign?") and a whole lot of over-the-hill Hollywood notables (and Colonel
>Sanders!).

I haven't seen Phynx, but Skidoo is one of my favorite movies of all time!
Jackie Gleason's acid trip as a mobster in prison is acting at its finest.
Great scenes also with his hippie daughter and her freaky friends. Right up
there with that Peter Sellers film whose title I can't recall right now,
where he plays an aspiring hindu actor and accidentally infiltrates a
Hollywood producer's swingin' 60s house party. Replete with hippie
daughter, freaky friends, and a painted baby elephant in the swimming pool!

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Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 22:54:16 -0800
From: Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com>
Subject: Daddy Cool

Let it not be forgotten that Daddy Cool was managed by my 'mate' Glenn
Baker, who later put together all those fab Raven records, the first
Easybeats reissues, and other Bompworthy things. I believe it may have been
his first record biz foray.

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Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2001 00:37:13 -0700
From: ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net>
Subject: Re: Tommy Lives At Leeds

I don't think there is one live Who thing that JAE hasn't messed with. On the
Kids movie sound track, he redid all the bass parts on the old TV stuff! He
dragged out the old gear and did them "faithful" to the original sounds. I'm sure
he redid some of the Isle Of Wight too. The thing was that on the first song,
they were always getting levels and stuff. That's why Heaven And Hell wasn't on
the original Leeds. Don't forget Pete edited in a big chunk of Magic Bus
backwards.

Funny story....my pals recorded a Fillmore West gig in 1969. When I first heard
Leeds on the local FM rocker, I was sure it was the same tape. I thought the
backwards bit was where our tape had gotten stretched from so many plays on a
cheap cass player. It took me  years to  like Leeds as it always sounded so Heavy
Metal to me. It didn't have the warm Fillmore vibe. The expanded version helped,
because it put some balance back into the set. There was plans to put  out a
complete live Tommy, but I don't know what happened to that. Maybe they figured
after IoW, there was no point.

A lot of the Who reissue have really be screwed up: The used the wrong studio
version of Young Man Blues on Odds and Sods; they kept using the wrong version of
Mary Anne; and on Sell Out they messed with the segues and added that demo in the
middle of the album! Sort of like changing the running order of Sgt Peppers. They
also should have put out the Mono version of Our Love Was Is. In their
determination to remix everything they didn't want to use the original mono
master. This also resulted in the version of Under My Thumb not having the
electric guitar solo!

I don't know if they are going to do any other comp to collect some of these
things. It  would be an obvious choice.

I got a tape a few years ago labeled Leeds outs. It was actually different
versions of Sparks, and a few others from the other gigs they recorded.
Apparently they made up a compilation to decide which takes to use! Very odd.

Does anyone know if Shel Talmy was able to flog his My Generation masters on
e-bay?


RS

bomp-digest wrote:

>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 16:57:19 -0500
> From: "Sam Elwitt" <elwitt@mindspring.com>
> Subject: Re: Tommy Live at Leeds boot?
>
> The whole concert contains Tommy in its entirety. The reissue only includes
> two of the Tommy songs. Additonally, several of the reissue songs are edited
> ("Shakin All Over," "Magic Bus," "My Generation), though not as edited as
> they were for the original LP. For the reissue, they also muted the mics
> that weren't in use at any given time, resulting in various levels of
> ambience coming and going in a most distracting manner.
>
> In an astounding display of needless monkeying, the first two vocal lines of
> "Heaven and Hell" were rerecorded by John Entwistle in 1995 for the reissue!
> They say he was inaudible on the original master, but I can hear  him well
> enough on the boot.
>
> The entire boot is available easily on Napster. Here's a link to an
> exhaustive article comparing the two:
>
> http://www.lukpac.org/lal.htm
>
> Sam
>
> <<Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2001 15:53:02 -0500 (EST)
> From: Rob Gronotte <rob@patriot.net>
> Subject: Tommy Live at Leeds boot?
>
> Just wondering, what is the purporse of this item?  I thought the CD
> reissue of Live at Leeds had the entire concert.
>
> Rob>>
>
> ------------------------------
>

- --
- -- The Donovan's Brain Web Site:
http://www.btinternet.com/~manband.archive/brains/index.html

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 02:43:23 EST
From: TSanc43763@aol.com
Subject: Cécilia & ses Ennuis

Laurent's group played at Wild Weekend 2 and they fantastic as are their 
discs. It was the "Swinging Mademoiselle" lp's being played live. Really cool 
stuff
          So Laurent, when is the U.S. tour?
                                 Groovily Tony

Check out the Fuzz,Flaykes & Shakes website

http://members.xoom.com/TonytheTyger

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 00:34:38 -0800
From: "Bryan Thomas" <promo@del-fi.com>
Subject: Re: Don't Diss Skidoo!

This is "The Party," a great movie with Mancini's fun score and
Claudine Longet!! One of the funniest movies I've ever seen....

Bryan

>Right up
> there with that Peter Sellers film whose title I can't recall right now,
> where he plays an aspiring hindu actor and accidentally infiltrates a
> Hollywood producer's swingin' 60s house party. Replete with hippie
> daughter, freaky friends, and a painted baby elephant in the swimming pool!

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:42:50 +0100
From: Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl
Subject: January 9

Hi y'all,

Goddamn!! Guess I created a monster by mentioning a Free recording
session... A genuine "Suck List"! "Aaaaargh! I just gotta say this......"
And you all did! Funny to see people defending Queen tho': every now and
then I go thru' a Queen's- first-three-albums-bash, just for the heck of
it.

I guess it was just plain good judgment to not include a Genesis concert,
sometime in the near future... Good God!! Imagine what would have happened
on the list had I mentioned a Genesis concert, played on January 24, 1975,
where they played "The lamb lies down on Broadway" from start to finish. I
guess mentioning that Genesis concert would have triggered some of you into
really venomous replies. Or, imagine what would have happened, had I told
you all, that I had a great time last weekend, listening to the first ELP
album or the first King Crimson lp... Pfewww!!! Glad I didn't do all of
that!

Another amazing thread is/was on Classic Rock radio! Someone took the words
right out of my keyboard (anybody curse Meat Loaf yet?): how come you all
actually listen to those stations? Is that hoping for better times? Oldies
radio is one of the main reasons (together with new R&B...) that I quit
listening to the radio altogether...

Anyway, back to historics now:

On January 9, in

1950, Hank Williams recorded "Long gone lonesome blues", "My son calls
another man daddy", "Why don't you love me" and "Why should we try anymore"
at Nashville's Castle Studios;
1953, Muddy Waters recorded "Flood", "My life is ruined", "Sad sad day" and
"She's all right" at Chess Studios in Chicago;
1957, Jimmy Reed recorded "Honey, where you going" and "It's you baby", in
Chicago;
1966, the Syndicate of Sound recorded "Little girl" and "You" at San
Francisco's Golden State Studios;
1968, Cream played a BBC session. "Steppin' out" ended up on Eric Clapton's
"Crossroads" box;
1969, C & the Shells (formerly known as the Sandpebbles) recorded "You are
the circus" at New York's Hit Factory Studios. The song was written and
produced by Jerry Williams, better known as Swamp Dogg and formerly as
Little Jerry Williams;
1969, the Free recorded "Trouble on double time" at London's Morgan
Recording Studios. Five months later a second attempt would produce the
version that was released on "Free". This version was first released "Songs
of yesterday";
1969, Jimi Hendrix played a gig in Stockholm, Sweden at the Konserthuset.
Proof of those two shows on one evening are to be found on the cd-boot "On
the killing floor", released by Swingin' Pig. I once owned it but some
fuckin' junkie broke into my house and stole it;
1969, Fleetwood Mac, having been accompanied in Chicago, five days earlier,
by Otis Spann, followed the big man to New York, to return the favour by
accompanying Spann at Tempo Sound Studios, where "The biggest thing since
Colossus..." was recorded, once more in a one day session;
1970, Bomp-darlings Led Zeppelin played a gig at London's Royal Albert
Hall. One of the songs played that night was "I can't quit you baby". It
ended up on "Coda" in 1982;
1979, Gang of Four played a BBC Peel session;
1979, the Jam recorded "The butterfly collector" and "Strange town" at
London's RAK Studios.

And sincere apologies for mentioning the Free once more.... NOT!!!

Now listening to Buffalo Bop's "Teenage wolfpack", 15 Teenage Shutdowns to
follow, along with Buffalo Bop's "Teenage idol", "Teenage favorites",
"Teenage mafia" and "Teenage party" and EVA's "Teenage repression". I'm not
kiddin' ya!!

L8er,
Jan (16 forever...)

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 03:48:42 -0500
From: "Lenny Smith" <lpsmith@gwi.net>
Subject: Re: Don't Diss Skidoo!

Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com>
>>So on the shelf with "Skidoo" and "Smashing Time," try and stock a copy of
>>"The Phynx," a ridiculous spy spoof featuring some very forgettable
>>Leiber/Stoller songs (the band-in-the-movie's big hit is "What Is Your
>>Sign?") and a whole lot of over-the-hill Hollywood notables (and Colonel
>>Sanders!).
>
>I haven't seen Phynx, but Skidoo is one of my favorite movies of all time!
>Jackie Gleason's acid trip as a mobster in prison is acting at its finest.
>Great scenes also with his hippie daughter and her freaky friends.

Haven't seen Skidoo, but it sounds great!  (And just to clarify, weren't me
trashin' Skidoo, that was a user review of The Phynx off of imdb).  But as
for this other film you mention:

>Right up
>there with that Peter Sellers film whose title I can't recall right now,
>where he plays an aspiring hindu actor and accidentally infiltrates a
>Hollywood producer's swingin' 60s house party. Replete with hippie
>daughter, freaky friends, and a painted baby elephant in the swimming pool!

This is "The Party," from 1968, and it's one of the funniest things I've
ever seen--a real laugh-till-it-hurts fest!  With Claudine Longet to boot!

Lenny

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 09:55:36 +0100
From: "ALFREDO FIORENTINI" <fredrap@ifree.it>
Subject: The Surf Teens (was Re: It is me or what?)

>Yeah I guess so. Let's talkabout something fun.
>Does any one out there know much of the
>Surfteens? I found an album by them on
>Sutton(I think that's the label, I'll have to check
>and see) in a 25c box and it's GREAT!!!

>> Lucky you!  I have that album, though it was a bit more expensive than
that.  It was also
reissued not long ago.  

Todd <<


The LP title is Surfmania and was reissued in 1998 by Bacchus Archives (liner notes by Deke Dickerson). I think it's  very good but I woudn't recommend someone who needs an introduction to first wave surf music this record..... I mean: there are better reissues than this.
My favourite tracks are their versions of Moment of truth (Original Surfaris) and Surfin Tragedy (originally a lame vocal by the Sentinals).
I' m really curious to know if today's sound quality of records of the budget label Sutton is so bad as it was said about New Dimensions releases...
Michele Fiorentini 

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 01 20:20:30 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: Aussie bands - all you ever wanted to know...

><I don't know who Australian Crawl is, but I am
>definitely familiar with the other three, especially
>Daddy Cool.  I once had a Daddy Cool 45 on Reprise
>("Hi Honey Ho") which I found at a Salvation Army in
>Nashville, Tennessee when I was a kid.  I thought it
>was pretty decent boogie rock with horns.  I was
>always curious if anything else this band did was any
>good.  Any enlightenment would be appreciated.>

For loads of info on Aussie & NZ 60s/70s bands, check out: 
http://www.geocities.com/soho/square/8216/frames.htm

(I have nothing to do with this site, although I see they've "quoted" 
some of my rantings about the Missing Links)
- -Peter M

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Date: Tue, 9 Jan 01 20:45:58 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: 60s CDs par excellence

Still looking for worldwide '60s garage CDs that they just don't have in 
the stores anymore? Check out: 
http://cgi6.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=sykadelik&
include=0&since=-1&sort=2&rows=25
- -Peter M

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