From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #78 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Wednesday, February 7 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 078 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: Dust ( more than you'll ever want to know about ... ) Moreen5000@aol.com Re: Lemon Pipers Again Moreen5000@aol.com Re: Back IN The Grave Re: Easybeat reheat Dust HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? Jake Re: LP mailers SoundViews@aol.com Route 66 "Murray Abisch" Fe-Fi-Four Plus Two/Richard & Young Lions "Mike Dugo" Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? TSanc43763@aol.com [none] "Vinny" Back from the Grave Boldface Shake Some Action Boldface Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? james Re: Perfect songs, don't cover 'em.... Sknoof@aol.com Re: Un-Covered Moparlary@aol.com Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! "Roberto Feruglio" Re: Un-Covered "Blair Buscareno" Teenage Shutdown "Roberto Feruglio" Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! "Roberto Feruglio" Dust "SJ Bink" Re: Where Have You Gone, Sue Saad? psautier@wanadoo.fr RE: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! "Lindholm, Jeffrey" RE: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! "Lindholm, Jeffrey" Re: Back From The Grave Question "Jeroen Vedder" Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? SoundViews@aol.com Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? SoundViews@aol.com Re: Un-Covered Moparlary@aol.com Dust once again "SJ Bink" Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? james Re: Back from the Grave troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) Re:BFTG/Moral High Ground Scott Gardner Re: Crypt Steve Coleman Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? SoundViews@aol.com iTunes, was Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? "Blair" Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! "Roberto Feruglio" RE: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! Jason Mata Re: Lemon Pipers Again "Scott Charbonneau" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:38:42 EST From: Moreen5000@aol.com Subject: Re: Dust ( more than you'll ever want to know about ... ) In a message dated 2/6/01 10:35:07 PM, dragsville@hotmail.com writes: << Hey! Can anybody tell me how many records DUST did, and what they sound like??? >> They did 2 albums, both on Kama Sutra Records. The first self - titled LP " Dust " came out in '71 and the second LP, " Hard Attack " came out the following year and holds the title for being the first LP with a Frank Frazetta painting on the gatefold cover, thus spawning loads of metal LP's with Frazetta and similar style covers years later. The band was a heavy rock / heavy metal power trio from New York, along the lines of Cactus, Three Man Army, and Uriah Heep ( guitarist Wise had that Mick Box guitar sound with his SG and Marshalls down ) if you tossed out the keyboards and vocal histrionics. Made up of Guitarist Richie Wise, bassist Kenny Aaronson, and drummer Marc Bell. Most people know drummer Bell later played in The Ramones and was even in The Voidoids as well. Aaronson later played with Rick Derringer in Derringer, who were a pretty decent rock band actually, and HSAS (Hagar, Schon, Aaronson and Shrieve ) who the less said about the better, and has done stuff with Blue Oyster Cult and sessions galore. Guitarist Wise and the bands producer Kenny Kerner later produced the first two Kiss LP's. As for the 2 LP's, the heavy rock / metal stuff is really great if you like bands like Cactus, and Three Man Army and Uriah Heep, and I'll be the first to admit I do. Don't play 'em that often, but fun to slap on the turntable and jump around the room to doing the " Status Ouo " thing. The playing is solid, the required over the top excesses and great dumbo lyrics are all there and the songwriting is pretty good, they ain't Black Sabbath or BOC, but they're no worse than Three Man Army ). Where they do fall apart is the slower material. The " ballad type " songs are done in a sort of " country rock " style that just plain falls flat. One could make a neat LP out of the best moments on both of 'em. Of the 2 Lp's, I would recommend the first, as it has what is considered by fans of the band to be their classic " opus ", titled " Dust From a Dry Camel ", all heavy plodding drums and doomy lyrics ( yes there's even a camel in it ) over a wah wah guitar, going into a revved up speedy " flashy fingers " guitar solo section and back into the heavy thudding at the end, think of " Electric Funeral " by Black Sabbath and you're not far from the mark. I actually saw these guys a few times ( a band I was in at the time played on a show with 'em once even ) and live they were pretty darn good, they could sweep the floor with Ronnie James Dio's band ELF who's sole claim to fame back then was that they did a killer version of " Won't Get Fooled Again ", and somewhere out in the back room I have " ok quality " tapes I made of both bands on an old portable Channel Master to prove it as well. Frightening to think I actually have those isn't it ??? Anyway there ya go, if you like early heavy rock/ heavy metal you may want to check 'em out. I hope this helps ya out a bit !!! out from under the carpet .... maureen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:51:21 EST From: Moreen5000@aol.com Subject: Re: Lemon Pipers Again I never got to respond to these earlier so i thought I'd do so now. Both Mike and J are right about The Lemon Pipers. The band was under a contract with their producers and record company and were stuck doing songs like " Green Tambourine " which I actually like every now and then, and "Jelly Jungle " which I can easily live without. Both their LPs have some real hidden gems on 'em, and if you check the song writing credits, they're by the band not Leka and Pinz. The first album has " Straglin' Behind ", and " Fifty Year Void " both kool tunes, but the real highlight is " Through With You " which is a great extended psychedelic number. All 12 string solos not unlike The Byrds in full flight and lead guitar solos with echoplex and wah wah as well. We used to do it in The Not Quite, and I did it in a number of previous bands also. If it was done by a band without the Lemon Pipers name on it,it would indeed be considered a " psychedelic garage classic ", exceptional number really. The second LP has some great self-penned songs as well. " Wine and Violet " has some kool backwards guitar solos and " Dead End Street/Half Light " which is another extended song in a psychedelic hard rock style that gets pretty spacey and neat. I actually saw the band live on two occasions. The first time was on if I remember right a Gene Pitney show. Gene put on these shows every year which were of the " 12 bands in 90 minutes " variety, where the band did the one or two hits they had and were shuffled off for the next act and so on, but I saw a lotta kool bands on those shows. Anyway they did " Green Tambourine " and one or two other tunes and it was on to the next act. But the next time I saw them a year later they were heading a show with Rebecca and the Sunnybrook Farmers ( anyone remember them ? ) , in which they did " Green Tambourine " to get it over with and then did nothing but songs like" Straglin' Behind", " Through With You ", " Wine and Violet " and " Dead End Street / Half Light " and similar hard rock and psychedelic stuff, pretty kool show actually. now if I could just find the cassette of that show ... maureen In a message dated 1/25/01 3:02:27 AM, HOODOO3005@aol.com writes: << While Mike F. is defending the Lemon Pipers, might as well plug "No Help From Me," which was the B-side of "Green Tambourine." << The Lemon Pipers were another of those bands with Machiavellian producers/record companies that tried to twist them into something they weren't......now mind you, I LOVE most 60s shiny pop records, and the aforementioned LP contains a bumper crop of that.....but they also allowed the band to contribute a couple of their OWN songs.......one of which, "Stragglin' Behind" is a bluesy garage-rocker that just kicks ass (even if the vocal is a bit over-the-top).........but the REAL masterpiece is "Through With You", which closes the album.....and I humbly submit that it may well be the BEST undiscovered garage/psych pounder ever. "Undiscovered"....on a million-selling LP. How sad is THAT?? >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 01 23:23:43 +1100 From: Subject: Re: Back IN The Grave >Oh defintiely, but BFTG is all the rawer stuff, so i figured putting out a >compilation like that would fit the theme, since the people who buy BFTG >comps obviously dig that kinda stuff. >Evan Well, as The Man himself says, BTFG is buried & dead. That is not to say that others with access to a stack of killer 45s and state-of-the-art remastering gear (and knowhow) can't initiate a new series of ravers. - -Peter M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 01 23:26:51 +1100 From: Subject: Re: Easybeat reheat >The Easybeats' Snowy Fleet's son Adam used to drum for >a really abysmal local Perth band called Hammer, about >8 or 9 years ago. My friends and I used to go watching >them just because they were so bad, you couldn't help >loving it! Talk about taking themselves seriously... A colorful Sydney identity is trying to get all of the Easybeats' sons to get together and form a junior version of the Easys. One of many absurdities inherent to this concept is that the sons would now be older than the Easys were in their prime. - -Peter M ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:31:49 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Dust In a message dated 2/7/01 5:56:58 AM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << Hey! Can anybody tell me how many records DUST did, and what they sound like??? >> Dust had two albums on Kama Sutra (DUST [1971] and HARD ATTACK [1972]) which represented heavy metal when it was still worth listening to. You've probably read by now that one member (Marc Bell) went on to play with the Ramones. Not quite as "stoner"-like as most hard-rock of the period (Black Sabbath, Deep Purple), their albums are a bit more savage than that (think Blue Cheer, or Sir Lord Baltimore). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:22:56 -0800 (PST) From: Jake Subject: Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? > Jake- what will you do when they stop putting out any new comps because of > low sales? Are you willing to shell out the $50, $75, $100- $500++ per 45 and > compile your own CD-R from the original records? We're basically just talking about making mix tapes. But on CD. Everybody loves mix tapes, right? Plus, if someone puts out "crap like all the recent pricey Euro comps (shit sound, 3 true rarities surrounded by 13 crap cuts)" and they don't release another comp due to low sales, who cares? Maybe they should have put something good together in the first place. I love all the Back from the Grave stuff and I just wish that others would put out comilations as solid as those. Because I'm not going to buy something that's not at least half good. So instead, I think people should makes mixes for their friends with the good stuff that's on otherwise crappy comps. Jake ===== http://www.grandrapidsrocks.com Mid-60's West Michigan Rock and Roll! __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:44:29 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: LP mailers bags unlimited lee sound views - --- "make strong old dreams lest our world lose heart." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 14:03:59 -0000 From: "Murray Abisch" Subject: Route 66 >...and if you're driving through the gay part of town there's the Depeche >Mode version..... I assume you talking about "gay" in the South Park definition of the word? - -- Murray (still lurking) _________________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 08:16:15 -0600 From: "Mike Dugo" Subject: Fe-Fi-Four Plus Two/Richard & Young Lions Hey all, Now posted, the February issue of the Lance Monthly at http://www.lancerecords.com. Be sure to check back monthly. Upcoming issues will include detailed interviews, and complete stories, on the Boss Tweads ("Goin' Away"), Ron & The Starfires, The Sweetarts, The Lost Souls, and MORE... "The Lance Monthly" FEBRUARY 2001 IN THIS ISSUE: - An Interview with Victor Roybal of The Fe-Fi-Four Plus 2 (Lance Records' number one, mid-'60s psychedelic garage band) - An Interview with Mark "Twig" Greenberg and Richard Tepper of Richard and The Young Lions - - News and Nuggets (The latest on U.S. '60s garage band reissues and events ) - JYCK Jewel of the Month ("El Rancho Grande " The Knights) - Lance Monthly Album Pick of the Month ("BBC Live in Concert" Procol Harum) Mike Dugo Staff Writer U.S. '60's Garage Band Columnist Lance Monthly http://www.lancerecords.com _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:13:19 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? In a message dated 2/6/01 6:48:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, PETEP@aol.com writes: > > Jake- what will you do when they stop putting out any new comps because of > low sales? Are you willing to shell out the $50, $75, $100- $500++ per 45 > and > compile your own CD-R from the original records? > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> plus you get ten times better sound than anything an MP3 could provide and liners, photos etc... Pete's right, the discs are expensive with many so rare, the likes of finding it are slim to zilch. But then how many months will pass before all the MP3 sites are a buck a song? Some are doing this already, even for independent label punk stuff. Tony Check out the Fuzz,Flaykes and Shakes Website Vol. 4 and Vol. 5 will be released February 2001 http://members.xoom.com/TonytheTyger or http://members.nbci.com/TonytheTyger ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:28:42 -0600 From: "Vinny" Subject: [none] "modslist" Subject: Re: Beneath the Valley of the Ultra Vixens (Boston) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:19:04 -0800 Sender: owner-bomp@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the body X-Bomp-Web-Site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com *BENEATH THE VALLEY OF THE ULTRA VIXENS* Feb 17th (Sat) at The Phoenix Landing: 512 Mass ave,Cambridge MA doors = 9pm- The Mood Makers (DjVinny,SirRichard,& the Long Player) present our = second annual festival of good girls gone bad... =20 check out our website for more info (click on the Ultra Vixen flyer): http://www.project3.com/pandora.htm THE DANGEROUS CHARMS=20 These lovely Rhode Island garage sirens were put together by the beat = crazed madman,Tye Jesso from the Fabulous Itchies! 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(Sorry, if you recieved this on multiple lists) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:21:20 +0000 From: Boldface Subject: Back from the Grave >- --- SHBEVLON1@aol.com wrote: >> since the >> people who buy BFTG >> comps obviously dig that kinda stuff. > >Not necessarily, I buy BFTG for the ballads I buy 'em for their sleeves' beautiful cover art. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:22:12 +0000 From: Boldface Subject: Shake Some Action >I always though that "Shake Some Action" (Album version) >was a perfect song I've not got the album, just the single (which is the version that's often played on the radio here - BBC London Live). So what's the difference between the two versions? Cheers. -- PJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:33:54 -0500 From: james Subject: Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? If anybody else out there runs Mac besides myself, check out iTunes (free) off the apple website. I've taken my favourite tracks off of all my garage comp CD's and iTunes converts them into mp3's and holds them in a library where you can have random play/play only the songs you want/etc. It even has a great kaleidoscope video feature which everybody "ooohs and ahhhs" about. Hook it up to your stereo and voila - 'new comps' complete with lightshow! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 09:47:56 EST From: Sknoof@aol.com Subject: Re: Perfect songs, don't cover 'em.... Fuzzco does go: <> Topping my (very long) list would be: "Anarchy In The UK".........oops! Too late! Mike F. I use the eneMEE-ah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:54:04 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: Un-Covered Three bands come to mind: The Pretty Things, the Kinks, the Fall. I can't imagine that a cover version would add anything to the original songs. They'd only detract. the serpent on the mount...Moparlary In a message dated Tue, 6 Feb 2001 4:18:57 PM Eastern Standard Time, Iam Fuzzco writes: << What do you think are "perfect" songs? Songs that are so good in their original form that no one should ever think of covering them. Discuss: __________________________________________________ >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:55:33 +0100 From: "Roberto Feruglio" Subject: Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! Please, refer to: http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nuggetsandpebbles/bbs?action=m&tid=nug getsandpebbles&sid=1600022409&mid=1016 and come to an understanding, thanks! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:29:27 -0500 From: "Blair Buscareno" Subject: Re: Un-Covered > Three bands come to mind: The Pretty Things, the Kinks, the Fall. I can't imagine that a cover version would add anything to the original songs. They'd only detract. Kinda interesting that both the Pretties and The Fall covered The Kinks. (The former w/ "House In The Country" and the latter with, I believe, "Victoria".) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:25:26 +0100 From: "Roberto Feruglio" Subject: Teenage Shutdown > And what's wrong with the Teenage Shutdown series? The matter Teenage Shutdown has been dissected recently at another forum. That's a few pros... 1) It sounds really good (think of the exact contrary of Boulders) 2) The package is flawless (photos & notes) (the exact contrary of Garage Punk Unknowns' first printing) 3) It has been compiled sensibly (the exact contrary of Psychedelic Unknowns) 4) There are many songs never compiled before 5) The price appears fair And some cons... 6) There are several tracks already compiled before 7) 17-19 tracks per volume are not many (nowadays) 8) The volumes are many 9) There are only very few volumes actually made of raw & wild garage punk. When I started interesting in (the music now we call) garage punk (around 83-84) you had to be swift. Many comps were issued on very limited editions, and the early volumes of the Pebbles series (the ABC) were already hard to find, as well as the Flashback series (Texan punk)... Therefore coming back to the aforementioned points (6 & 9), TS doesn't suit you, only if you already own most of those tracks, and/or you don't like the whole "teen scene" (not only the rawest & wildest). ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:42:53 +0100 From: "Roberto Feruglio" Subject: Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! You can find the message I posted at http://www.xnet2.com/bomp/searchable/0102/msg00156.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:11:28 +0100 From: "SJ Bink" Subject: Dust Somebody asked aboot Dust. Well, they made two albums. I forgot what they're called, but: In my humble opinion the first one (from '71 i believe, the one with the skulls on the cover) is the best. Cool 'heavy' stooge/sabbath sludge. the second is not as good. But, there's one song which uses almost the same riffs as 'search and destroy' (before 's & d' was issued). both have been reissued on repertoire, but you should still be able to find the originals on kama sutra. The lyrics on both records, by the way, are really funny. Bink ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:53:46 +0000 From: psautier@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: Where Have You Gone, Sue Saad? I mentioned Sue Saad some weeks ago (or was it on another list ?). Not an awesome record, but the cover is fun and 'when I was a young girl' is such a classic that I have thought for year it was a cover while it is actually signed by Sue Saad. Back to the question of the current whereabouts of the lady: I read someplace she is a producer or whatever in California. Just like them all. P. At 01:31 07.02.01, you wrote: > >Yeah...I picked up the Sue Saad and the Next album expecting something like >Quatro or even Flame...but I was dissapointed...............Actually, I >just took another quick listen, and it's not as bad as I thought...Way more >upbeat than I remember. Hey! Can anybody tell me how many records DUST did, >and what they sound like??? > >-DV > >From: HOODOO3005@aol.com > >Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com > >To: bomp@screamer.xnet2.com > >Subject: Where Have You Gone, Sue Saad? > >Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:27:36 EST > > > > > >In a message dated 2/6/01 3:11:01 AM Central Standard Time, > >owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > > > ><< Sue Saad & the Next, all trying to look extremely dangerous, > > yet giving us (well, me at least...) one fine power-pop/pop punk-ish debut > > album in 1980. But! What happened next? >> > > > >Hmmm, I know not where she went...and that album didn't move me...but the > >sight of her in the body shirt/leather pants/cowboy boots sure as HELL >did... > > > > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:24:33 -0500 From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" Subject: RE: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! Jeffery Lindholm jrl6b@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu University of Virginia Health System Communications and Public Relations > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Feruglio [SMTP:wrongway@tiscalinet.it] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:56 PM > To: bomp@xnet2.com > Subject: Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! > > > Please, refer to: > > http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nuggetsandpebbles/bbs?action=m&tid=n > uggetsandpebbles&sid=1600022409&mid=1016 > > and come to an understanding, thanks! > > > > > > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 14:26:45 -0500 From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" Subject: RE: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Feruglio [SMTP:wrongway@tiscalinet.it] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:56 PM > To: bomp@xnet2.com > Subject: Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! > > > Please, refer to: > > http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nuggetsandpebbles/bbs?action=m&tid=n > uggetsandpebbles&sid=1600022409&mid=1016 > > and come to an understanding, thanks! > > > What is this thing--some sort of message board? How do I get to the main > page for this so I can see what it is? > > Thanks, > Jeffery Lindholm jrl6b@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu University of Virginia Health System Communications and Public Relations > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 19:58:57 +0100 From: "Jeroen Vedder" Subject: Re: Back From The Grave Question On Tue, 6 Feb 2001 Jake wrote; > Aren't they pretty much bootlegs to begin with? How many original artists or > publishers get paid anything from these? I'm very very glad some people are > willing to release comps, but do they really deserve the moral high ground? > Post them all as mp3s, and cut out the middle man. In case of the Teenage Shutdown series "cutting out the middle man" also means cutting out one of the few guys willing to fork out some extra cash to make these comps sound as loud/good as they do, plus go all the way tryin' to dig up reliable info, while that, IMHO, really DOES deserves your support. You can't post 'em as hi- quality mp3s if somebody before you hasn't done a proper job, and it's not like they're selling 'em at a premium like a lot of the more shoddier packages. Anyway, I, for one, ain't lookin' back with much fondness on the days of Moxie etc.... Jeroen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:12:23 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? << If anybody else out there runs Mac besides myself, check out iTunes (free) off the apple website. I've taken my favourite tracks off of all my garage comp CD's and iTunes converts them into mp3's and holds them in a library where you can have random play/play only the songs you want/etc. It even has a great kaleidoscope video feature which everybody "ooohs and ahhhs" about. Hook it up to your stereo and voila - 'new comps' complete with lightshow! >> hey james, thanks for the tip -- i just went and downloaded iTunes (very cool software!) and signed up for my iTools space. do you have a pubic folder set-up? lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 15:17:05 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? << do you have a pubic folder set-up? >> i nominate myself for 'typo of the week!' i meant to write 'public' lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:11:21 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: Un-Covered you're right (which is what I get for pontificating at work where I don't have a 12" Fall EP of Victoria staring me in the face). why I must win the lottery....Moparlary In a message dated Wed, 7 Feb 2001 1:29:16 PM Eastern Standard Time, "Blair Buscareno" writes: << > Three bands come to mind: The Pretty Things, the Kinks, the Fall. I can't imagine that a cover version would add anything to the original songs. They'd only detract. Kinda interesting that both the Pretties and The Fall covered The Kinks. (The former w/ "House In The Country" and the latter with, I believe, "Victoria".) >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 22:47:43 +0100 From: "SJ Bink" Subject: Dust once again 1 lp has no title, second album is called 'hard attack' and has a really ugly cover(actually a buncha vikings!)funny, the first mx80 lp has the same title Bink ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:45:31 -0500 From: james Subject: Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? lol...typo of the year! Don't have a public folder Lee 'cause I just started using the other day...maybe tonite I'll look and figger it out. That's a cool idea for all us Bompers to share stuff, though! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:25:09 -0500 (EST) From: troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) Subject: Re: Back from the Grave >since the >people who buy BFTG >comps obviously dig that kinda stuff. >Not necessarily, I buy BFTG for the ballads >I buy 'em for their sleeves' beautiful cover art. I'd buy 'em for the (rather opinionated) liner notes, alone. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:36:38 -0800 From: Scott Gardner Subject: Re:BFTG/Moral High Ground At 4:01 AM -0600 2/7/01, PETEP wrote: ><< Aren't they pretty much bootlegs to begin with? How many original artists >or > publishers get paid anything from these? I'm very very glad some people are > willing to release comps, but do they really deserve the moral high ground? >>> > >Jake- what will you do when they stop putting out any new comps because of >low sales? Are you willing to shell out the $50, $75, $100- $500++ per 45 and >compile your own CD-R from the original records? > >Pete Have to agree with Pete on this one. For starters I'm not into the MP3 thing. I want somebody else to do the work for me. Also I like reading informed liner notes and checking out groovy photos. Quality comps like BFTG, Teenage Shutdowns, etc cannot IMHO be replaced by MP3 technology. As for bands not getting paid, well, my guess is that people like Tim Warren and other compilers are not making a huge amount of money on these projects. And besides, most of the bands are so obscure, they would probably be flattered that anyone even cares to listen to what they recorded decades ago. Please keep the comps coming! Scott ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 21:38:07 +0000 From: Steve Coleman Subject: Re: Crypt At 04:01 7/2/01 -0600, Pete wrote: >Subject: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! What some of us would also like to know is not how many discs Mr Warren owns but what happened to the Crypt web address in Germany? Secondly, where is the new Crypt web site located? Thirdly, is there one? This issue has been raised twice on the Bomp List in recent weeks without a response from anyone so please forward the message to Tim "Mr Postman". Steve - --------------------------------------------- Have you entered The Garage? http://www.garage.clara.net The Fleshtones Hall of Fame http://www.fleshtones.co.uk - --------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 18:00:52 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? > lol...typo of the year! yeah, kinda is, ain't it? > Don't have a public folder Lee 'cause I just started using the other > day...maybe tonite I'll look and figger it out. That's a cool idea for all > us Bompers to share stuff, though! yeah, it is cool, and you can set-up a site (via iTools) for downloads for non-mac people... lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: 7 Feb 2001 18:35:27 -0500 From: "Blair" Subject: iTunes, was Re: Back From The Grave/moral high ground? On Wed, Feb 7, 2001 3:12 PM, SoundViews@aol.com wrote: >thanks for the tip -- i just went and downloaded iTunes (very cool software!) >and signed up for my iTools space. do you have a pubic folder set-up? If you're a member of Apple's iTools, iTunes is already in your folder. However, iTunes isn't even for all Mac owners. From http://www.apple.com/itunes/download/ comes the following: - --- iTunes lets you create libraries of your favorite music which you can play on your computer or portable MP3 player. You can even burn your own custom CDs with the push of a button. System requirements:  Works with all new systems from Apple introduced in January 2001.  Also works with all Apple systems released in August 1998 or later.  Requires Mac OS 9.0.4 or later; Mac OS 9.1 recommended.  Internal Apple CD-RW drive required to create custom CDs. - --- Bummer for me. My G3 was from the first crop using that chip. So at age 3, it's too old. So, if I want to use iTunes, I've gotta buy a new Mac. (To be fair, this kinda thing happens in the PC space pretty often - as someone who deals with 'em at work all day, I know this pretty well - but I wish they'd set the cut-off with "all G3s and above.") On the other hand, I'll probably get a new Mac this summer, maybe around MacWorld NY. By then maybe they'll bring down the price on the top-o'-the-line G4. You know, the one that has DVD burning built right in (both hardware and software). The one that'd let you take a digital video camera to a show, bring it home, edit the thing, then give it out to your friends. Or maybe set up a DVD fanzine that way, w/interviews, live footage, etc.? FUN! De-Geeking... NOW! - - Blair ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 00:40:16 +0100 From: "Roberto Feruglio" Subject: Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! Sorry, the URL has been cut off :-( http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nuggetsandpebbles/bbs?action=m&tid=nuggetsandpebbles&sid=1600022409&mid=1016 I've only reported it at http://www.xnet2.com/bomp/searchable/0102/msg00156.html The main page of the message board is at http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nuggetsandpebbles > -----Original Message----- > From: Roberto Feruglio [SMTP:wrongway@tiscalinet.it] > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 12:56 PM > To: bomp@xnet2.com > Subject: Re: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! > > > Please, refer to: > > http://messages.clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/nuggetsandpebbles/bbs?action=m&tid=n > uggetsandpebbles&sid=1600022409&mid=1016 > > and come to an understanding, thanks! > > > What is this thing--some sort of message board? How do I get to the main > page for this so I can see what it is? > > Thanks, > Jeffery Lindholm jrl6b@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu University of Virginia Health System Communications and Public Relations > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 16:59:45 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Mata Subject: RE: TIM WARREN RESPONDS TO MISINFORMATION! - --- "Lindholm, Jeffrey" > > > > > > What is this thing--some sort of message board? > How do I get to the main > > page for this so I can see what it is? Go to yahoo.com click on 'clubs' and then type in 'nuggets and pebbles' where it says 'seach for a club' and it should take you to the nuggets and pebbles club. - -Jason Mata __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 21:15:28 -0600 From: "Scott Charbonneau" Subject: Re: Lemon Pipers Again Right on, Moreen!!! Check out the CD that Sequel in the UK issued back around 1990 or so; it has all of the good stuff from their two LPs, including all of the longer jams. In fact, if anyone else out there is interested, they would do well to track this sucker down!!! Still, there's no getting around the fact that Green Tambourine is a great song regardless of whether the band wrote it or not and you have to admit it would sound pretty damn good on the radio today if by a new band. Assuming, of course, that DJs/program directors actually have any taste these days, but that's another issue for another time. Cheers, Scott >From: Moreen5000@aol.com >Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com >To: bomp@xnet2.com >Subject: Re: Lemon Pipers Again >Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:51:21 EST > > >I never got to respond to these earlier so i thought I'd do so now. Both Mike >and J are right about The Lemon Pipers. The band was under a contract with >their producers and record company and were stuck doing songs like " Green >Tambourine " which I actually like every now and then, and "Jelly Jungle " >which I can easily live without. Both their LPs have some real hidden gems on >'em, and if you check the song writing credits, they're by the band not Leka >and Pinz. The first album has " Straglin' Behind ", and >" Fifty Year Void " both kool tunes, but the real highlight is " Through >With You " which is a great extended psychedelic number. All 12 string solos >not unlike The Byrds in full flight and lead guitar solos with echoplex and >wah wah as well. We used to do it in The Not Quite, and I did it in a number >of previous bands also. If it was done by a band without the Lemon Pipers >name on it,it would indeed be considered a " psychedelic garage classic ", >exceptional number really. The second LP has some great self-penned songs as >well. " Wine and Violet " has some kool backwards guitar solos and " Dead End >Street/Half Light " which is another extended song in a psychedelic hard rock >style that gets pretty spacey and neat. > I actually saw the band live on two occasions. The first time was on if I >remember right a Gene Pitney show. Gene put on these shows every year which >were of the " 12 bands in 90 minutes " variety, where the band did the one or >two hits they had and were shuffled off for the next act and so on, but I saw >a lotta kool bands on those shows. Anyway they did " Green Tambourine " and >one or two other tunes and it was on to the next act. But the next time I saw >them a year later they were heading a show with Rebecca and the Sunnybrook >Farmers ( anyone remember them ? ) , in which they did >" Green Tambourine " to get it over with and then did nothing but songs >like" Straglin' Behind", " Through With You ", " Wine and Violet " and " Dead >End Street / Half Light " and similar hard rock and psychedelic stuff, >pretty kool show actually. >now if I could just find the cassette of that show ... maureen > >In a message dated 1/25/01 3:02:27 AM, HOODOO3005@aol.com writes: > ><< >While Mike F. is defending the Lemon Pipers, might as well plug "No Help From >Me," which was the B-side of "Green Tambourine." > ><< The Lemon Pipers were another of those bands with Machiavellian >producers/record companies that tried to twist them into something they >weren't......now mind you, I LOVE most 60s shiny pop records, and the >aforementioned LP contains a bumper crop of that.....but they also allowed >the band to contribute a couple of their OWN songs.......one of which, >"Stragglin' Behind" is a bluesy garage-rocker that just kicks ass (even if >the vocal is a bit over-the-top).........but the REAL masterpiece is "Through >With You", which closes the album.....and I humbly submit that it may well be >the BEST undiscovered garage/psych pounder ever. "Undiscovered"....on a >million-selling LP. How sad is THAT?? >> > > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2001 #78 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com