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bomp-digest        Thursday, February 8 2001        Volume 2001 : Number 081



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Here's what people are yacking about in this digest:
   Re: BFTG/TS
     brian marshall <noisejunkie@rocketmail.com>
   Shake some action
     Wilson Smith <ws@xnet2.com>
   Re: comps / "retro classification"
     Brendan Lepschi <B.Lepschi@pi.csiro.au>
   Re: Shake some action
     troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas)
   RE: porno psychotica '60s a go go
     Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
   Respect in the Hi-Fi Dept.
     Steve Coleman <garage@clara.co.uk>
   Re: The Spiders (Japanese)
     troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas)
   RE: bomp-digest V2001 #80
     Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
   RE: Shake Some Action
     Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
   Re: BFTG/TS
     "Roberto Feruglio" <wrongway@tiscalinet.it>
   Re: Pop Nuggets
     Moparlary@aol.com
   Re: BFTG/TS
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re: BFTG/TS
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re: BFTG/TS
     "Jeroen Vedder" <chiswick@casema.net>
   Re: Shake Some Action
     "Jeroen Vedder" <chiswick@casema.net>
   I like the moody stuff too!
     "Jeffrey Lemlich" <limeston@bellsouth.net>
   Re: carrying cases for records?
     "Alex Piandes" <coffeensmokes@earthlink.net>
   Re: Lo Shakers
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: New Monkees
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: The eternal garage
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: Cicadelic/Psychadelic/Sykadelik
     <sykadelik@one.net.au>
   Re: bomp-digest V2001 #79
     ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net>
   Re: carrying cases for records?
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Re: carrying cases for records?
     SoundViews@aol.com
   Lyres-"Don't Wanna Cry"/Perfect Covers
     TED LIEBLER <colorcoat@home.com>
   Re: Pop Nuggets (not trying to play God here, but...)
     HOODOO3005@aol.com
   Re: CCR and the KKK
     "Scott Charbonneau" <scottcharbonneau@hotmail.com>
   Fwd: Please Help
     SHBEVLON1@aol.com
   Re: teenage Shutdown/No No No
     SHBEVLON1@aol.com
   Re: Shake some action
     "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
   Re: Shake Some Action
     "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
   RE: bomp-digest V2001 #79
     "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
   Re: carrying cases for records?
     "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
   RE: Shake Some Action
     "John Trembly" <johntrembly@netzero.net>
   Re: Teenage Shutdown
     troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas)
   Re: cover songs
     karl roper <karlr_@yahoo.com>

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:14:13 -0800 (PST)
From: brian marshall <noisejunkie@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: BFTG/TS

- --- SoundViews@aol.com wrote:
> 
> thumbs up for *teenage shutdown*!!!

Have to agree.  I appreciate the variety of different
styles on each volume and find that there's always a
gem or two.  More than that in most cases.  I say,
keep 'em comin'!

Brian
NFTG
 
One more time:  FUCK MP3'S!!!!!!
> 
> lee sound views
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> etc.)
> 
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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:45:34 -0600
From: Wilson Smith <ws@xnet2.com>
Subject: Shake some action

At 03:09 PM 2/8/2001 -0600, you wrote:

>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:19:22 EST
>From: Planckzoo@aol.com
>Subject: Shake some action
>
>  There are two totally different versions of Shake Some Action, it is not a
>remix.If I recall correctly, the lp version was recorded in 1972, with Dave
>Edmunds producing. The 45 version was recorded in 1976, I think, and lacks
>the massive sound of the lp version. Both versions are worth owning, if only
>to hear the differences.

Well, huh! Whaddya know, so there are... If you go look on napster, the lp 
version, the only one I'd ever heard, is 4:33, and the other one, which is 
really pretty different, and worth checking out, is 4:25...

W

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Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 09:04:22 +1100
From: Brendan Lepschi <B.Lepschi@pi.csiro.au>
Subject: Re: comps / "retro classification"

>and B. Lepschi quoted the following:
>
>>>"It all depends whether you're talking about straight, unironic,
>revivalist retro or one of the numerous strains of pre-X and Gen-X irony," 
>said Seth Burks, 29, author of the award-winning Athens, GA-based 'zine 
>Burning Asshole. "I've identified 22 distinct varieties of irony-informed 
>retro and non-retro aesthetics, including camp, kitsch, trash, schmaltz, 
>post-schmaltz, and post-post-schmaltz. It's time we addressed the woeful 
>inadequacies of the government's current retro-classification system.">>
>
>  Talk about absurd! Is he serious? And some of us thought MUSIC was 
>over-classified... (I like the name of the zine, though)! How can these 
>people appreciate ANYTHING when they insist on splitting hairs this way..

Don't stress about it - it's a parody of the whole "retro" scene thing.
Check out The Onion site and it'll make sense....

Brendan

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:07:40 -0500 (EST)
From: troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas)
Subject: Re: Shake some action

>Well, huh! Whaddya know, so there are... If you
>go look on napster, the lp version, the only one
>I'd ever heard, is 4:33, and the other one, which
>is really pretty different, and worth checking out,
>is 4:25...

There is also a version that turns up on the Sixteen Tunes CD that
clocks in at only about 3:30.  It is also well worth tracking down.  In
fact, I highly recommend the whole disc.  

Todd

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:15:39 -0800 
From: Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
Subject: RE: porno psychotica '60s a go go

<Are you implying there're actually more porn flicks with 
Kinks songs on the soundtrack?!! Allright! oh, that might be 
an interesting subject: porn movies with sixties beat/punk 
etc. on the soundtrack! I for one don't know any examples, 
(ok, i really should know: as i live in porncapital 
amsterdam)  but somebody out there? >

I don't know of any real hardcore porno (not softcore) although "Party Doll
A Go Go" by Rinse Dream has some funny surf-style instro music running
through it and "Teenage Cruisers" has a great rockabilly sdtrk. 

Maybe some Bompers should get together a make one? 

Alan 

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 20:01:58 +0000
From: Steve Coleman <garage@clara.co.uk>
Subject: Respect in the Hi-Fi Dept.

At 04:01 8/2/01 -0600, MIke wrote:

>Which brings me to another point - home-made CD's of garage 45's.  And MP
>3's of garage songs.  I feel the music deserves respect, and to merely copy
>something without doing a proper transfer (most people have low-end
>turntables and audio equipment, making for some truly horrendous sounding
>comps) is worthless.

Just like the *respect* a lot of those kids received when they hired studio 
time and arranged for a few hundred singles to be pressed-up!  Do you think 
there was a lot of respect flying around the control rooms when bands like 
the Alarm Clocks were laying down their scuzz?  Sure, some of the 
facilities were primitive but on the other hand I am willing to bet that a 
lot of the "grown-ups" recording those bands were also in it for a quick 
buck and gave little attention to quality control.  After all, many of the 
kids with that "British Invasion" sound were reviled by their elders so why 
should a studio bozo even care about any "bottom end" etc.  What do you 
think the reaction of Clint "The Knob Handler" would have been if you'd 
have told him that in the year 2001 some idiot on eBay was gonna pay $1000 
for a piece of shit (his words not mine) he'd just spent an hour on?  Of 
course there were exceptions but I do get the impression that a lot of the 
cuts on BFTG et al were the result of quick "in-and-out" jobs and never 
really intended for the Hi-Fidelity fan.

I remember a certain record label running down CDs in a hilarious fashion 
back in the eighties and great fun it was to read too, however, now I find 
a lot of their archival material available in this medium.  Funny.   Not a 
problem at this end as the packages are put together with care and sound 
great even an average music system.  Likewise if someone was to take a 
decent MP3 copy (+160K/44Mz) of a sixties punker and make sure there were 
no drop-outs then fine with me.  I guess we all have different standards in 
life so what the hey!

Steve

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 17:22:10 -0500 (EST)
From: troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas)
Subject: Re: The Spiders (Japanese)

>I also got the Big Beat CD of Los Shakers in the
>same order and am much more solidly
>impressed by these Uruguayan Beatles. "Break
>It All," "Do Not Disturb" and "Thinking" are
>particular standouts to me. And my gosh, they
>almost look more like the Beatles than the
>Beatles!

Agreed!  I just got it this past weekend and am amazed at how good it
is, songwriting and all!

Todd

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:36:34 -0800 
From: Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2001 #80

 
>>"It all depends whether you're talking about straight, unironic, 
revivalist retro or one of the numerous strains of pre-X and Gen-X irony," 
said Seth Burks, 29, author of the award-winning Athens, GA-based 'zine 
Burning Asshole. "I've identified 22 distinct varieties of irony-informed 
retro and non-retro aesthetics, including camp, kitsch, trash, schmaltz, 
post-schmaltz, and post-post-schmaltz. It's time we addressed the woeful 
inadequacies of the government's current retro-classification system.">> 

  Talk about absurd! Is he serious? And some of us thought MUSIC was 
over-classified... (I like the name of the zine, though)! How can these 
people appreciate ANYTHING when they insist on splitting hairs this way..>

Of course he's not serious...he's not even real, and neither is his
so-called fanzine! The whole article, as is everything in The Onion, is
parody!! 

Alan 

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:57:38 -0800 
From: Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
Subject: RE: Shake Some Action

 
Well, I did some research on "Shake Some Action" and I came up with a lot of
conflicting info. One website says that "Shake" was recorded in '72, and
that the album version was also recorded in '72. Another says the Bomp!
single version was recorded in '72 (released in '74) and the LP version in
'76. The one site says that the bulk of the "Shake" album was recorded with
Dave Edmuinds in 1972, resulting in the single, plus what came out later as
the "Grease" and "More Grease" EPs. I can tell you that the version I have
on "Under The Covers," listed as a Capitol demo, is certainly different from
both the Bomp! single and the album version. Perhaps Greg Shaw can shed more
light on this, since he worked with the band. 

Alan 

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:03:20 +0100
From: "Roberto Feruglio" <wrongway@tiscalinet.it>
Subject: Re: BFTG/TS

> From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: BFTG/TS
>> They could issue a correspondent double LP.

> but then you'd have to shell out more as it costs more for double-sets...

The total running time of a CD can vary between 77 & 80 minutes: how many TS
volumes on CD can we save? Certainly the corresponding double-sets wouldn't
reflect this difference, but they would cost less. To sell a double-LP at
the same price of two LPs it's a suicide.

>From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: Psychedelic Unknowns
>What's wrong with the PU series?

I report what I posted elsewhere about TS: " There is a thread that links up
THE SOUND of each track with the others, in each volume". Can you apply this
to Psychedelic Unknowns?

Roberto

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:06:31 EST
From: Moparlary@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pop Nuggets

Collectors Choice is offering a "Best of Nuggets" single disc in their latest catalog...
here's the tracks:
1 I had too much to dream last night: Electric Prunes
2.Dirty Water: Standells
3. Lies: The Knickerbockers
4. Pushin Too hard : The seeds
5. Liar, Liar: the castaways
6. You're gonna miss me: 13th Floor elevators
7. Psycotic Reaction: Count Five
8. Hey Joe: The Leaves
9. Nobody But Me : The Human Beingz
10. Time Won't Let Me : The Outsiders
11.Incense and Peppermints :The Strawberry Alarm Clock
12. Little Girl: Syndicate of Sound.
13. 7 and 7 is :Love
14. Talk Talk: The Music Machine
15. We Ain't Got Nothing Yet: Blues Magoos
16. Double Shot of My Baby's Love: The Swingin' Medallons
17. Wooley Bully: Sam the Sham and the Pharohs
18. I Want Candy: The Strangeloves
19. Louie, Louie: The Kingsmen
20. The Shape of Things to Come: Max Frost and the Troopers.

It reads like Cavestomp's greatest hits and it's on sale for $14.98.
   swear I'm not shilling...Moparlary

   

In a message dated Thu, 8 Feb 2001  1:41:05 PM Eastern Standard Time, David Coyle <sugarshack_66@yahoo.com> writes:

<< 
I would have thought that before putting out an
"international" version of the "Nuggets" box, that
Rhino would have considered putting out a box
comprised of the poppier stuff that has appeared on
their original "Nuggets" LPs and the CD reissues that
came out in the late '80s.

Of course they did include a lot of poppy stuff on the
boxed set, plus the ones that were originally on the
Elektra LPs, stuff like "Sit Down I Think I Love You,"
"Run Run Run," and "Sugar And Spice." But they
obviously left off a lot of stuff from the CDs, like
Boyce And Hart, the Monkees, the Easybeats, and the
Left Banke. (Of course they already have the Monkees
well covered, and the Easybeats will be on the
international set). And especially from the LPs, like
Teddy & The Pandas, the Chartbusters, the Sunshine
Company, the Long Island Sounds, etc.

I'm pretty sure they could put out a "whole nother"
4-CD set of pop music obscurities, including the LP
leftovers and other semi-undiscovered tracks. Maybe
they're trying not to compete with Varese Vintage's
"Sunshine Days" comps, but I think having them all in
one place, probably with even more tracks included,
plus another awesome info-filled booklet, would make
it a big draw, especially for us fans of the poppier
stuff from the "garage/psych" era...

Dave

__________________________________________________


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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:29:53 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re: BFTG/TS

<< One more time:  FUCK MP3'S!!!!!! >>

i like mp3s for listening to on the computer, and  or turning me on to new 
shit that i'll end up buying, BUT they could never replace vinyl or cds...

lee sound views
- ---
"make strong old dreams
lest our world lose heart." 

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 18:36:34 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re: BFTG/TS

> but then you'd have to shell out more as it costs more for double-sets...


>> The total running time of a CD can vary between 77 & 80 minutes: how many 
TS

>> volumes on CD can we save? Certainly the corresponding double-sets wouldn't

>> reflect this difference, but they would cost less. To sell a double-LP at

>> the same price of two LPs it's a suicide.

you said you wanted more music on each album and someone pointed out the time 
limitation on lps. you suggested double-lps, and i pointed out that it would 
then cost more money. finally you posted the above and i'm a bit lost. what's 
yer point? are you saying that cd people should benefit and those buying the 
lp versions should either get less music, or, have to pay more for a 
double-lp set?

lee sound views
- ---
"make strong old dreams
lest our world lose heart." 

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 00:27:45 +0100
From: "Jeroen Vedder" <chiswick@casema.net>
Subject: Re: BFTG/TS

On 8 Feb 2001 Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl wrote
>>Jeroen told me there's 'ONLY' going to be 25 volumes!!! <<<

Hey J, are sure about this?, I don't think even Mike & Tim have any
idea on how far this series 'll go, so I can't imagine I mentioned any 
exact numbers, or have you been dreamin' about me?, in that 
case; the answer is NO.

Jeroen

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 23:18:51 +0100
From: "Jeroen Vedder" <chiswick@casema.net>
Subject: Re: Shake Some Action

Somebody probably beat me to it but....

Shake Some Action (ver.1). Recorded at Rockfield Aug-'72, at the 
same session that also gave us the 2 UA 45s plus 'You Tore Me 
Down', the very first Bomp release. This is the same version of 
SSA that turned up on the first Sire LP and on the 6198086 45.

Shake Some Action (ver.2). Recorded at Capitol studios LA '73. 
Released in the UK as 6078602, and again on 6078619, tho' the 
later is a remixed version with added vocals, the sleeve surprisingly 
claims this to be the "original version" !.

Shake Some Action (ver.3). Recorded in Sydney Australia Aug-'86. 
Yet another version that first turned up on the 'One Night Stand' LP 
and later on dozens of semi-legal comps.

Does this makes sense PJ ?,

Jeroen

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:10:01 -0500
From: "Jeffrey Lemlich" <limeston@bellsouth.net>
Subject: I like the moody stuff too!

Mop Top wrote:  <<Nowadays, it seems people complain that something isn't to
their
liking ("I don't like the moody stuff"..."That song came out on a comp 10
years ago...").>>

Hey Mike, you're exactly right.  Take, for example, two 45s on Chelle:  the
Novas, and the Cavemen.  The Cavemen peel the paint off of walls, while the
Novas take the Zombies route.  Is one better than the other?  Not to my
ears.  They both are ace, magnificent, monstrous in their own ways.

But then again, I think "The Day She Dies" by We The People is every bit as
good as "Mirror Of Your Mind" -- and it is.   Just in a very different way.
And if you disagree, that's okay, because I also like what y'all like.
There are many more colors to garage than merely black and white, and
whatever color paint is peeling off the wall.

J. Lemlich

Please check out my web page at:
http://www.limestonerecords.com

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:23:44 -0000
From: "Alex Piandes" <coffeensmokes@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: carrying cases for records?

http://www.garage-a-records.com/

I got my LP carriers from there.  It's worth a try...

> okay, i already shelled out the big bucks for a metal carrying case for my
> lps, having to endure the horrid sounds of techno/jungle/trance/house or
> whatever it's called these days -- oh yeah, garage -- in the process (yup,
> the "dj" store was the only spot with cases). anyway, point is, i need a
good
> case to carry 45s -- the cardboard thing just ain't cuttin' it any more --
> and am having a helluva time finding something in nyc (you shoulda seen
the
> look i got when i asked mr. 'groove-is-in-the-heart' about 'em). any tips?
>

__________________________________________________
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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 01 11:24:36 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: Lo Shakers

>I also got the Big Beat CD of Los Shakers in the same
>order and am much more solidly impressed by these
>Uruguayan Beatles. "Break It All," "Do Not Disturb"
>and "Thinking" are particular standouts to me. And my
>gosh, they almost look more like the Beatles than the
>Beatles!
>
>Dave

Mike Stax once wrote in Ugly Things that they ALL looked like Ringo!
- -Peter M

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 01 11:30:30 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: New Monkees

>Not that this has much to do with the above but it reminded that I read that
>the Monkees (well, Jones, Tork and Dolenze) are going to cut new versions of
>Monkees faves with the guy behind INSYNC and the Backstreet Boys, with
>musical and vocal contributions from both of those bands. They will also
>tour to support the new album. Doesn't that sound hideous? 
>
>Alan 

Wasn't there some TV show in the '80s called "The New Monkess", starring 
four bozos with poodle-dos's? Or was this just a particularly lurid 
nightmare I had?!
- -Peter M

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 01 11:35:32 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: The eternal garage

Re: 60s garage, Laura Markley wrote:
>And I once asked someone years ago (when it began to dawn on me how MUCH of 
this 
>music was out there) "isn't this whole thing FINITE? There has got to be a 
>point where you just CAN"T come out with a really good comp anymore because 
>the best songs have already been comped!"

The great thing about this music is that the amount recorded is INfinite. 
Previously unknown stuff is resurfacing to this day....I know it's 
logically impossible, but there it is. Maybe some neo-garage band has a 
time machine and is planting obscurities in the past. But I'll be damned 
if I know for sure...
- -Peter M

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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 01 11:39:17 +1100
From: <sykadelik@one.net.au>
Subject: Re: Cicadelic/Psychadelic/Sykadelik

>3)	It has been compiled sensibly (the exact contrary of Psychedelic
>	Unknowns)>
>
>	What's wrong with the PU series? 
>	
>	Alan 

Some of the tracks aren't psychedelic. Which isn't to say they're not 
good. In a jugualr vein, I would recommend the brand new CD comp 
"Psychedelic Experience vol.4". Plenty of killer US pysch with just the 
right amount of punk attitude.
- -Peter M

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 17:54:50 -0700
From: ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net>
Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #79

Isn't the UK single actually the Capitol Demo version?  The main difference is that Edmunds didn't produce it. I like it as much as the familiar album version. Do any of you have the Mystere V's version on flicknife? They add a bit in the bridge, very nice too.

RS


>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 01:16:21
> From: "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: Shake Some Action
>
> I've got the English Sire single of "Shake Some Action" b/w "Teenage Confidential", and it is a totally different version than the one on the album...even though the single says- from the album "shake some action" 9103 251- right on it. Anyway, the single version has different instrumentation and a slightly different vocal arrangement with an entirely diiferent sounding mix...it's missing all the little things that make "Shake Some Action" the perfect song it is. It's too bad that British radio chooses to play the single version...If I'd heard that version first, instead of the album version, I might not have been prompted into going out and buying all the rest of the Groovies records.
>
> Anybody else have comments on the two different versions?
>
> - -DV
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>

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http://www.btinternet.com/~manband.archive/brains/index.html

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:33:43 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re: carrying cases for records?

<< http://www.garage-a-records.com/

I got my LP carriers from there.  It's worth a try... >>

thanks, i'll give 'em a try...

lee sound views
- ---
"make strong old dreams
lest our world lose heart." 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:40:36 EST
From: SoundViews@aol.com
Subject: Re: carrying cases for records?

<< http://www.garage-a-records.com/


I got my LP carriers from there.  It's worth a try... >>

i dig their lp carrying bag, and may pick one up, but i still need something 
to transport my 45s. can anyone help?

lee sound views
- ---
"make strong old dreams
lest our world lose heart." 

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 18:53:52 -0700
From: TED LIEBLER <colorcoat@home.com>
Subject: Lyres-"Don't Wanna Cry"/Perfect Covers

Back in January, there was that print worthy "Songs We Taught the Lyres"
thread.  The list included cover songs that the Lyres recorded and/or
performed live.  Was "Don't Wanna Cry" ever recorded?

Writing of covers, has there ever been any re-issues that includes
"Fortune Teller" (or anything else) by the Hardtimes?

Mopar Larry wrote:
>Three bands come to mind: The Pretty Things, the Kinks, the Fall. I >can't imagine that a cover version would version would add anything to >the original songs. They'd only detract.

The Lyres' cover of "Love Me Till The Sun Shines" attests to the
greatness of both bands.  I heard a moving cover of "I'm Not Like
Everyone Else" by Jonny Chan & the New Dynasty 6 at their Gutterfest
debut in Detroit.  Any news on their way delayed sophomore effort?

Ted L.

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 21:06:54 EST
From: HOODOO3005@aol.com
Subject: Re: Pop Nuggets (not trying to play God here, but...)

In a message dated 2/8/01 3:50:08 PM Central Standard Time, 
owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes:

<< I would have thought that before putting out an
 "international" version of the "Nuggets" box, that
 Rhino would have considered putting out a box
 comprised of the poppier stuff that has appeared on
the CD reissues that came out in the late '80s.>>

I think Rhino kinda blew it with that series...it's one thing to stand up for 
the more pop-geared garage bands like the Monkees and the Turtles, but it's 
another to include bands who had no garage element at all, like the Sunshine 
Company. I'd put them with the Mamas & the Papas, or Spanky & Our Gang. In my 
opinion, the Cryan Shames, Monkees, Turtles, Outsiders (from Ohio), Long 
Island Sound, hell, even Tommy James & the Shondells had that teenbeat 
element, even when they were doing ballads. The Sunshine Co. didn't, being 
pure harmony 'n' sunshine. (Were the American Breed on those 80's NUGGETS 
comps? Well, if they were, they shouldn't have been, they ain't got the 
garage element either. Just my opinion.) Even Rhino themselves admit that the 
80's NUGGETS series kinda missed the mark (Steppenwolf???), so if those 
volumes were neglected for the box set, there was a reason for that...
 
 <<Of course they did include a lot of poppy stuff on the
 boxed set, plus the ones that were originally on the
 Elektra LPs, stuff like "Sit Down I Think I Love You,"
 "Run Run Run," and "Sugar And Spice.">> 

Which is good---the concept of garage reissues hadn't really jelled yet, so 
the field was fairly wide open. Try telling some of the younger Crypt/Estrus 
fans that Sagittarius' incredible "My World Fell Down" is garage-rock, they'd 
tell you to lay down the crack pipe.

JP

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 16:58:23 -0000
From: "Scott Charbonneau" <scottcharbonneau@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: CCR and the KKK

Got to admit that's a good one, never heard that one before!! Almost as good as Charles Manson auditioning for the Monkees or Prince blowing his brains out because he had contracted AIDS. Seriously, though, given Fogerty's well known love of Blues and R&B, I highly doubt he would allow racists of any kind to play music with him.

Cheers,

Scott

>From: "Mark Ertmer" 
>Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com 
>To: bomp@xnet2.com 
>Subject: CCR and the KKK 
>Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 16:21:02 -0600 
> 
>I heard that some of the guys in Creedence Clearwater Revival used to be kinda high up in the KKK or some shit. Does anybody know if there's any truth to this rumor? 
> 
>Mark 
> 
> 
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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:32:14 -0600
From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Please Help

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:45:21 EST
Subject: Please Help
To: REALRocknroll@onelist.com
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        Does anyone know how to get in touch with The Hives? I was tlaking to
them a while ago and now I lost the damn address, and the guy who put me in
touch with them the first time seems to have dissapeared.
Thanks in advance,
Evan

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:09:36 EST
From: SHBEVLON1@aol.com
Subject: Re: teenage Shutdown/No No No

In a message dated 2/8/01 12:04:52 PM Central Standard Time,
jamesbond@bond-partners.com writes:


 > To me, the best compilation in recent times has been the "No No No" release
 > on Arf! Arf! ALL moody ballads...I might be in the minority, but I like
 > these tracks as much as the paint peelers
 >
 >

I dig that kinda stuff but I prefer TS "I'm Down Today". That's the best
moody comp I've everheard put out, even better than New England Teen Scene.
Also "The WOrld Ain't ROund It's Square" is definitely BFTG worthy as far as
rockers go.
Evan

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:28:51
From: "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Shake some action

Where can I find the reducers version???

- -DV
 >From: <mailto:Planckzoo@aol.com>Planckzoo@aol.com
 >Reply-To: <mailto:bomp@xnet2.com>bomp@xnet2.com
 >To: <mailto:bomp@screamer.xnet2.com>bomp@screamer.xnet2.com
 >Subject: Shake some action
 >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:19:22 EST
 >
 > There are two totally different versions of Shake Some Action, it is not a
 >remix.If I recall correctly, the lp version was recorded in 1972, with Dave
 >Edmunds producing. The 45 version was recorded in 1976, I think, and lacks
 >the massive sound of the lp version. Both versions are worth owning, if only
 >to hear the differences. The Reducers do a killer live version of Shake Some
 >Action, the vocals are killer.
 >
 >
 >
 >ERic
 >the Man in the Blaque Cap
 >
 >
 >
 >

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:46:33
From: "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Shake Some Action

 >It's too bad that American radio doesn't play ANY version of "Shake Some
 >Action."

I've gotta agree with you there...but there's been plenty of discussion on 
the downfalls of Radio in this group already. I always wondered why "Shake 
some Action" (the song, and the album) was never a huge hit for the 
Grovvies though...I mean, it's a song that both my mom and my girlfriend 
(she hates everything!)...it's got universal appeal.

- -DV









- ----------

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 21:57:37
From: "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2001 #79

Haven't heard the "under the covers" verion but I have an LP boot with a 
buncha mid to late 70's era Groovies stuff(mostly "Shake Some Action" and 
"Jumpin' In the Night" outakes) called "...In the USA" that has the Sire 
single version of "Shake Some Action" on it too. Really, though I like the 
album version of the song better...the single version is still damned 
good...anything's better than the version on The Groovies(?) 1987 album, 
"One Night Stand".

- -DV

 >From: Alan Wright
 >Reply-To: <mailto:bomp@xnet2.com>bomp@xnet2.com
 >To: "<mailto:'bomp@screamer.xnet2.com'>'bomp@screamer.xnet2.com'"
 >Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2001 #79
 >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:04:39 -0800
 >
 >
 >>album...even though the single says- from the album "shake some action" 
9103
 >251- right on it. Anyway, the single version has different instrumentation
 >and a slightly different vocal arrangement with an entirely diiferent
 >sounding mix...it's missing all the little things that make "Shake Some
 >Action" the perfect song it is. It's too bad that British radio chooses to
 >play the single version...If I'd heard that version first, instead of the
 >album version, I might not have been prompted into going out and buying all
 >the rest of the Groovies records.
 >Anybody else have comments on the two different versions?
 >- -DV>
 >
 >I have a boot CD called "Under The Covers" which has this on it, and it is
 >different and I guess I like the more familiar album (and Bomp! single)
 >version, but it's such a cool song. I don't know if the version on this is
 >the same one you're talking about or not.
 >
 >Alan
 >

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Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 22:13:35
From: "tiemen kuipers" <dragsville@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: carrying cases for records?

I picked up some 45 cases from  a place that sells and rents DJ equiptment, 
PA's , etc...they make custom cases for turntables...and they will also 
make 'em for records(they don't get asked much anymore!). I paid $25 a 
piece for some great metal cases that hold about 200 records each. I picked 
these up in a city of less than a million people in the middle of 
Canada...there's gotta be some where in New York that you can find that 
kinda stuff
 >From: <mailto:SoundViews@aol.com>SoundViews@aol.com
 >Reply-To: <mailto:bomp@xnet2.com>bomp@xnet2.com
 >To: <mailto:bomp@xnet2.com>bomp@xnet2.com
 >Subject: carrying cases for records?
 >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:08:11 EST
 >
 >
 >okay, i already shelled out the big bucks for a metal carrying case for my
 >lps, having to endure the horrid sounds of techno/jungle/trance/house or
 >whatever it's called these days -- oh yeah, garage -- in the process (yup,
 >the "dj" store was the only spot with cases). anyway, point is, i need a 
good
 >case to carry 45s -- the cardboard thing just ain't cuttin' it any more --
 >and am having a helluva time finding something in nyc (you shoulda seen the
 >look i got when i asked mr. 'groove-is-in-the-heart' about 'em). any tips?
 >
 >oh yeah, looks like i'm gonna have to go back and hear more 
throb-throb-throb
 >sounds as the case i got is just not bif enuf for a full night of 
spinnin' --
 >oh well.
 >
 >(plug time: me. my records. my friend ben. his records. barmacy, nyc. 
lots of
 >alcohol. tonight. 10pm)
 >
 >lee sound views
 >---
 ><http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/>http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html 

 >(garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.)
 >
 >
 >

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 20:51:40 -0500
From: "John Trembly" <johntrembly@netzero.net>
Subject: RE: Shake Some Action

OK, now which version is on the Sire CD Groovies' Greatest Grooves? This =
is the only version I have and ever had and love it. Cracker covered it =
for the film Clueless by the way, if anyone cares.

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 22:15:49 -0500 (EST)
From: troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas)
Subject: Re: Teenage Shutdown

While we're on the subject, I'd be interested to know just which volume
of Teenage Shutdown is everyone's favorite.  Mine is The World Ain't
Round It's Square.

Todd

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Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:16:33 -0800 (PST)
From: karl roper <karlr_@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: cover songs

<I dig the Lyres covers of The Pretty Things and The
Kinks, such as "You'll
Never Do it Baby" and "Love Me Till the Sun Shines"
among others. But let's
say you're talking about "S.F. Sorrow" - I don't see
the point of anyone
taking on material like that since it's already so
brilliant and unique.

My idea of a perfect song is "Marquee Moon". I would
also nominate "Break It
Up" by Patti Smith because of that aching melody and
the way it builds to
those vocals and guitar crescendos on the refrain. I
think it's the
uniqueness of the artist (who sings like Patti or Tom?
Who plays guitar like
Tom? No one) in addition to the quality of the
material that makes a cover
version sound disappointing.>

I dig all the covers the Lyres do but the standout as
far as I'm concerned in respect to topping the
original has to be "Here's A Heart". And seeing as
you've brought up Patti Smith, her version of "Hey
Joe" is a fantastic one.
Karl.


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