From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #85 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Sunday, February 11 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 085 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: CCR and the KKK Redlabour@cs.com Re: Texas best Re: bomp-digest V2001 #79 ARei425705@aol.com Re: comps/TS "Roberto Feruglio" Re: bomp-digest V2001 #83 "David Meyer" wool-hatted "joanne" singing lovers. Euphorik6@aol.com ciao manhattan? Euphorik6@aol.com RE: Texas punk unkraut@io.com Re: Texas Punk SoundViews@aol.com Re: CCR and the KKK SoundViews@aol.com Re: Texas Punk Rocky Serkowney RE: Question on a couple of 45's "Mike Markesich" Re: it's a monkees thing "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)" Re: wool-hatted "joanne" singing lovers. "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)" Interesting item on eBay web site item#1409324758: Index LP - Unobtainable DC pressing ORIGINAL! dothepop@ix.netcom.com Re: mp3 opinion Moparlary@aol.com Re: Pop Nuggets David Coyle Re: Teenage Shutdown series David Coyle The Warlocks "Dan Collins" Deep Six & Orange Wedge Max Waller Re: Texas punk DCAMPA@austin.rr.com RE: groovies Alan Wright RE:new new Monkees Alan Wright Re: Deep Six & Orange Wedge troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) RE: Groovies Alan Wright RE: bomp-digest V2001 #83 Alan Wright RE: bomp-digest V2001 #83 Alan Wright bomp-digest V2001 #81 Michel en Saskia Am.Breed versus SOK "D. Nowicki" Re: bomp-digest V2001 #84 Tim Lakritz RE: Question on a couple of 45's troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) cyclops update #15 cyclops Re: Moral Hi-Fi Ground Steve Coleman ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 05:30:49 EST From: Redlabour@cs.com Subject: Re: CCR and the KKK Greetings, I'll have to agree that I have doubts of CCR's connections to the KKK. As someone that works dilligently against racism in my political activist work, I can attest for you that I am sort of a musical racist. I detest RAP, not because it is "black music", I detest RAP and HIP HOP because it just sucks. There's a lot of stereotypical "white music" that I detest as well, such as the sugar shitty faggy N'Sync and their ilk. And before anyone calls me a bigot (whereby I come from a Puerto Rican-Jewish background just for the record), I am oppose to Homophobia. Just some food for thought. Melvin Little In a message dated 2/10/01 12:59:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, HOODOO3005@aol.com writes: << Subj: Re: CCR and the KKK Date: 2/10/01 12:59:08 AM Pacific Standard Time From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Sender: owner-bomp@xnet2.com Reply-to: bomp@xnet2.com To: bomp@screamer.xnet2.com In a message dated 2/9/01 8:10:54 PM Central Standard Time, somebody commented on the rumor that members of Creedence Clearwater Revival were also involved with the Ku Klux Klan: << I don't think Fogerty's a racist but there're a bunch of racist skins that dig reggae & I know a pretty racist guy who worship blues (and not the white style blues)... >> I doubt if CCR were Klansmen myself, but Jay Miller, the same white man who produced black blues artists for the Excello label (Slim Harpo, Lightnin' Slim, Lazy Lester, etc.) also owned Rebel Records, the company that released all those racist country records in the late sixties and early seventies. 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Debs (1855-1926) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 01 22:21:11 +1100 From: Subject: Re: Texas best >Subject: Texas Punk > >I heard a set of Texas sixties punk on the radio. I have the hook stuck = >in my head from a song that included a line about being "raised on = >knuckle sandwiches." Born on the wrong side of the tracks type thing. = >What's the single best comp of Texas stuff? =20 >Relurking now, >Jim=20 Texas Flashback vol.1 is pretty damn incredible. The Cd is on eBay now, coincidentally. - -Peter M ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 06:37:28 EST From: ARei425705@aol.com Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #79 In a message dated 2/8/01 3:35:41 AM, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << I doubt it. CCR was from the East Bay Area (in California) and the KKK is nonexistant there. If you had told me that some members of Lynrd Skynrd were in the KKK I might be more inclined to believe you... - - -JM >> Dunno what area connotates the East Bay area, but until fairly recently, Fresno (in Calif) was supposedly one of the biggest KKK areas in the whole country. Ari ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:16:48 +0100 From: "Roberto Feruglio" Subject: Re: comps/TS >From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: Psych Unknowns >Since when did it become a stipulation that a comp has to have some sort of common thread? >From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: RE: Psych Unknowns >PU is one great series with loads of killer tracks from all across the spectrum of great 60's sounds. I think Messrs. Warren (by proxy) & Markesich can answer you better than I. Envisage my statement with resilience: as Mike Markesich said there is a "wider spectrum of sounds" and TS try to show these shades. "I Am A No-Count" is totally different from "Nobody to Love". Outcasts' "1523 Blair" has nothing to do with the other tracks included on "I Am A No-Count"; nevertheless that is its context, try to figure it on "Nobody to Love"! PU is a great series; simply each volume includes heterogeneous tracks. >From: sykadelik@one.net.au Subject: Re: Teenage Crackdown >I think anyone who prefers, say, Teenage Shutdown on vinyl would be happy to shell out for a well-made double LP w/ vinyl-only bonuses, Whereas those of us who can stomach CDs would be happier with 30 tracks rather than 18. And Crypt/TS can raise CD's prices ;-) Mike said (I don't recall whether here or at Yahoo list) TS is pretty cheap compared to other comps. I said it appears fair. Circle Jerks' "Group Sex" lasts15minutes, Saints' "(I'm) Stranded" lasts 35. Should Saints' one cost twice? In the comps sphere the quantity is the criterion that weighs our outlay. I think that it should be the quality. Mike said "Tim does have high standards, and I can tell you that there are not enough 'paint-peeling' uncompiled garage 45's out there to make a solid volume". I say I need not to buy the comps that don't satisfy my standards. I guess you are content with 19 good tracks, but of course you are more content with 29 good tracks. Bargain, fair or dear. If you are content with 5 good tracks and 14/24 fillers, all right! CD or vinyl? The matter is merely technique. Someone has an analogic turntable, others a digital one, someone else both. Thank goodness somebody takes care of everybody. Where is it written that a vinyl-maniac must pay fewer than a CD-buyer or vice-versa? Above I mentioned the Outcasts. That's what is written on the liner notes of their wonderful anthology "I'm in Pittsburgh and it's raining!" "All of their singles are included on this compilation with the exception of their first (which was not up-to-par with their subsequent releases)". Many compilers should follow this example. Roberto ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:31:57 -0500 From: "David Meyer" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #83 My feelings on the subject are somewhat conflicted. Iam, agree that putting more money in Tim, Miriam, Todd, Tony the Tyger's pockets, etc., is a GOOD thing, because it hopefully ensures we'll get more great current garage bands. But I think the answer there is to make sure enough of us buy the NEW bands to make their continuing efforts to release such stuff a worthwhile endeavor. I do not think it is fair to say something like "let's pay Tim instead of the original artist". There's a way to do both. But then, as I say, I'm conflicted. In my day job, I spend my career helping enforce companies' intellectual property rights (don't worry....these are patents, not copyrights...hehe). Nevertheless, as a songwriter and aspiring musician, I would like to think that whenever I created a song, it would be mine. Not to get rich off of, but not to be freeloaded, either. Dave M Iam wrote most eloquently, > > With regards to the royalties for the BFTG/TS comps: > would you rather Tim Warren (or Todd Abrahmson or > Miriam Linna or...) put the money in their pockets so > they can keep putting out more great records and > pay/produce contemporary groups like The Raunch Hands, > The Swinging Neckbreakers, or The Hentchmen, or > fritter it away $20 to each of the guys on each track > who is a dentist, or lawyer or accountant now? > > I vote for the now sounds. > > > Getting off my soapbox now.....Iam Fuzzco > > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:08:35 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: wool-hatted "joanne" singing lovers. somebody wrote: << Then wear the wool hat if that moves her and, if you can sing in falsetto, sing for her too until she cries "Lover, Wool-Hatted, Joanne-singing lover. I must have you." >> ...and so we valleri on, monkees against the current, borne back ceaselessly to NBC. w/ an eye on that funny green light across the bay, rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:14:22 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: ciao manhattan? does anybody out there have a copy of "ciao manhattan" they'd be willing to dub for trade? if so, please email me off-list. thanks! rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 07:03:51 -0800 From: unkraut@io.com Subject: RE: Texas punk Lisa Rickenberg wrote: >I'd recommend Acid Visions vol.1, Austin Landings vol.2, >and the Texas Flashbacks series in general. The Texas Flashbacks are essential! Plus they have sentimental value for me; they were my very first 60s reissues, even before Pebbles. Scott (somewhat misty-eyed) - ----- Sent using MailStart.com ( http://MailStart.Com/welcome.html ) The FREE way to access your mailbox via any web browser, anywhere! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:33:29 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: Texas Punk << What's the single best comp of Texas stuff? =20 >> i couldn't tell you a single comp., but the first *high in the mid-sixties* texas volume is a iller, as well as the entire *texas flashback series*. lee sound views - --- "make strong old dreams lest our world lose heart." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:36:03 EST From: SoundViews@aol.com Subject: Re: CCR and the KKK << I doubt if CCR were Klansmen myself, but Jay Miller, the same white man who produced black blues artists for the Excello label (Slim Harpo, Lightnin' Slim, Lazy Lester, etc.) also owned Rebel Records, the company that released all those racist country records in the late sixties and early seventies. Ethnic hangups are ignored when there is $$$ to be made. >> do you mean reb rebel records? wow, who knew?!? lee sound views - --- http://members.aol.com/Shake6677/DeadFlowers.html (garage, punk, psych, soul, r&b, beat, blues, r&r, etc.) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:14:58 From: Rocky Serkowney Subject: Re: Texas Punk At 10:33 AM 2/10/01 EST, you wrote: > ><< What's the single best comp of Texas stuff? =20 >> Personally, I always go back to the Eva Texas Punk Groups volume of their Sixties Archive CD series which put both LP volumes on one disc. Rocky. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 12:45:59 -0500 From: "Mike Markesich" Subject: RE: Question on a couple of 45's >I have a couple of old 45's that I wondering about. I thought this woud be a good place to ask. >1. The Deep Six - Last Time Around/One And One (Soft) >Anyone have any details on The Deep Six, like who they were or where they were from? I don't think they have any connection to the band that released an album on Liberty. Has "Last Time Around" been comped? It isn't the Del-Vetts song. This group was from Jacksonville, Florida. The Soft 45 was released in late 1965. Their second 45 on Charay came out in '66, but to avoid confusion with the Liberty group called the Deep Six, the Charay 45 is credited as the Florida Deep Six. It is weak pop. Evidently the "Major" Bill Smith, who owned the Soft and Charay labels, had a penchant for snapping up masters and releasing them on his labels, causing collectors to believe that everything issued on those two labels had a Texas origin. >2. Orange Wedge - Prejudice & Discrimination/Reject Me Not (Lamp) >This doesn't sound like the band that did "From The Womb To The Tomb" to me. Has anyone heard this and know what year it's from. It seems to have a bit of a Velvets influence, though the lyrics are pretty bad. "Prejudice And Discrimination" is one of those spoken word pieces over a simplistic music background, so typical of the 1969-1972 era. While nowhere near as laughable as "Once You Understand" by Think, it is kinda goofy. The kid speaks of how parents discriminate against the younger generation to which he belongs. This is not the Orange Wedge of "From The Womb To The Tomb" fame (that is one of the most aggressive-sounding psych 45's ever recorded). The Lamp label is interesting. I do not have the Orange Wedge 45 you have Todd, but I've got a color Xerox of the label in my archives. There are two great soul 45's on the Lamp label by the Vanguards. I have "The Thought Of Losing Your Love" on Lamp #652. It is the same design as the Orange Wedge 45, a yellow label with a Victorian lamp drawing as the logo, located on the left side. There is an Indianapolis, Indiana address at the bottom of the label. Now, this 45 was picked up by Atlantic records, but the Lamp name was retained. The label is a beige color, but the logo is missing, and there is no Indy address at the bottom. This 45 was released in 1970. MopTop Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:22:13 -0500 From: "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)" Subject: Re: it's a monkees thing > gotta be a nesmith reference---right??? > >> >>> That's half of it. Of course half of everything I say is a Nesmith reference. ( "But I say it just to reach you." There's a Beatles reference, which accounts for most of the other half.) Then wear the wool hat if that moves her and, if you can sing in falsetto sing for her too until she cries "Lover, Wool-Hatted, Joanne-singing lover. I must have you." ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:33:03 -0500 From: "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)" Subject: Re: wool-hatted "joanne" singing lovers. > > somebody I always knew I'd be somebody someday, guess that makes me a someday man. > wrote: > > << Then wear the wool hat if that moves her and, if you can sing in > falsetto, > sing for her too until she cries "Lover, Wool-Hatted, Joanne-singing > lover. > I must have you." >> > > > ...and so we valleri on, monkees against the current, borne back > ceaselessly to NBC. > > > > w/ an eye on that funny green light across the bay, > rob > Hooray. Someone got it. In the dark Last Train to Clarksville of the soul, it is always Monday Night,7:30. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 10:34:57 PST From: dothepop@ix.netcom.com Subject: Interesting item on eBay web site item#1409324758: Index LP - Unobtainable DC pressing ORIGINAL! I saw this item for sale at eBay, the world's largest personal trading community, and thought that you might be interested. Title of item: Index LP - Unobtainable DC pressing ORIGINAL! Seller: bluelightspecial Starts: Feb-10-01 08:59:13 PST Ends: Feb-20-01 08:59:13 PST Price: Starts at $900.00 To bid on the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1409324758 Item Description: The item up for auction is the original DC Records pressing of the first Index album - the 1967 "Black Label" LP - mono (DC-71A). Serious Garage / Psych Rock Collectors, here's your chance to pick up THE rarest of the rare! JACKET CONDITION: Almost invisible ring wear, no major creases, folds, or seam splits. Barely noticeable corner wear, two line-like surface blemishes - SEE PIC (these are NOT scratches) = Jacket in Near Mint condition. VINYL CONDITION: This record has been played. Overall this record has low surface noise inherent to vinyl recordings. The center hole is not misshapen. The label has no sign of wear or discoloration. Overall I believe that this record is in VERY GOOD CONDITION. MORE INFO on the LP: It has been reported that less than 100 records were pressed, with even fewer having been released with their printed sleeves. The album cover has a picture of "Orpheus and Bacus" founders of the singing club John Valice had joined at Yale. The "Black Label" LP differs from the "Red Label" LP in that there are only three band members (bassist Tom Ballew was not in the band at this point). Far from the more acoustic mellow style found in the later "Red Label" LP, this album has more of a raw garage sound, mixing and adding sound effects and feedback. There have been less than ten known copies of this record (with its printed sleeve) in circulation. This record was found at an estate sale in the hometown of the band, Grosse Point, Michigan. For more info on the grading system used to evaluate this record please refer to this link: http://www.recordmaster.com/prices.cfm Feel free to e-mail me with any questions you may have,want better quality pics, etc. Winning bidder pays shipping and handling.Winning bid amount should be paid in the form of a cashier's check here in the US.Only Internat'l bidders have the option of cabling the winning amount because of additional fees charged by banks for both seller and bidder. Visit eBay, the world's largest Personal Trading Community at http://www.ebay.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:12:31 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: mp3 opinion and even if you wanted to find the lawyer, the baker and the cop who were in that one hit wonder garage band, that would be a tough proposition and costly. Eventually the cost of putting out a "back from the Garage", etc. hits the law of diminishing returns, meaning that the Todd's, Tim;s Billy and Miriams of the world are faced with barely covering costs or pricing the thing out of reach. Should a good faith effort be made to pay the band something? Sure. But within reason giving the soapbox back to Fuzzco In a message dated 2/9/01 3:22:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, fuzzco66@yahoo.com writes: << With regards to the royalties for the BFTG/TS comps: would you rather Tim Warren (or Todd Abrahmson or Miriam Linna or...) put the money in their pockets so they can keep putting out more great records and pay/produce contemporary groups like The Raunch Hands, The Swinging Neckbreakers, or The Hentchmen, or fritter it away $20 to each of the guys on each track who is a dentist, or lawyer or accountant now? >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:18:51 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Pop Nuggets Well, I wouldn't entirely discount the American Breed. "Bend Me Shape Me" is as good as any "teenbeat" song of the period, and there are some good driving rockers, especially "Step Out Of Your Mind" and "Green Light." Maybe there are a lot of horns in the American Breed sound...in fact I forgot them when we were discussing pre-Chicago horn bands with an edge from Chicago. A lot of listeners did get the wrong idea of the AB after the title of "Step Out Of Your Mind," as they weren't particularly psychedelic, but they did have a lot of the R&B/soul influence that a lot of garage bands picked up as the '60s rolled on. Even the Shadows of Knight did Wilson Pickett songs, even if they didn't lay on the horns like some of their local contemporaries. Anyway, I don't think it's fair to pick on the American Breed in this discussion. Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:25:14 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Teenage Shutdown series I don't have much time to explain my reasonings, but my _least_ favorite TS volume (which I'm sure I'll get a lot of flak for this) is the "Jump, Jive, And Harmonize" one. It's just not that interesting to me. Not that my preferences for "Teen Jangler Blowout" and "Nobody To Love" really has anything to do with the "moodier" sound of the tracks. I just find them more interesting than all those songs about the Gorilla and the Alligator. The best song on the CD for me is "Slippin' And Slidin'" by the Five Americans, but I already had that in true stereo on Sundazed's Five Americans compilation... Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:44:37 -0800 From: "Dan Collins" Subject: The Warlocks JEESUS CHRIST, GREG! You are a genius to sign this band! The Warlocks are the best band EVER, or at least of this decade! Saw 'em last night at the Garage--though they had to follow a blistering set by the Flash Express that included an appearance by Rudy Ray Moore himself, they still managed to hold the audience in awe as they fuckin' filled that room with sounds both psychedelic and driven, a damn hard site to do in this day in age when your average college kid living the LSD-marijuana lifestyle would rather groove to Santana and Phish, or at best, some kinda Latin House/Trance. Everytime I see the Warlocks (which is what, ten times now?) they've got a different sound and a different line-up, but somehow it only gets better and better, and last night was amazing! Downright witchy! Whatever combination of uppers and downers yer feeding these kids, keep it goin'! You know, I never thought I'd see the day when two drummers and four guitarists would seem like a good idea... - -dAn _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:00:47 -0500 From: Max Waller Subject: Deep Six & Orange Wedge Todd asked about: 1. The Deep Six - Last Time Around/One And One (Soft) Last Time Around is on Let's Dig 'Em Up. From Jacksonville, Florida. They were also known as the Florida Deep Six (issuing a 45 on Charay under that name) and included some former-Vikings. A coupla years later some of them teamed up with Maurice "Mouse" Samples and The Boys to form Mouse & The Boys, of Xcedrin Headache #69 fame. 2. Orange Wedge - Predudice & Discrimination/Reject Me Not (Lamp) There was an early-to-mid 70s band from Baltimore - I guess this might be them but perhaps someone else can confirm (Moptop Mike?). TTFN, Max ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 14:16:41 -0800 From: DCAMPA@austin.rr.com Subject: Re: Texas punk You really can't wrong with Texas 60s punks! I love Acid Visions vol 1, the Texas Flashbacks, Highs in the Mid-Sixties, and others whose names I can't remember. There's a great Lp on Ciadelic that shares cuts by the Briks and Chapparels. Signed Texas D.C. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:02:24 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: groovies I was confused. I was thinking of that Bomp! ten inch with the live version of "Shake." Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:11:27 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: RE:new new Monkees << > Wasn't there some TV show in the '80s called "The New Monkess", starring > four bozos with poodle-dos's? Or was this just a particularly lurid > nightmare I had?! > -Peter M And apparently, in the works is "The New New Monkees!" ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:12:05 -0500 (EST) From: troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) Subject: Re: Deep Six & Orange Wedge >Todd asked about: >1. The Deep Six - Last Time Around/One And >One (Soft) >Last Time Around is on Let's Dig 'Em Up. From >Jacksonville, Florida. They were also known as >the Florida Deep Six (issuing a 45 on Charay >under that name) and included some >former-Vikings. A coupla years later some of >them teamed up with Maurice "Mouse" >Samples and The Boys to form Mouse & The >Boys, of Xcedrin Headache #69 fame. Thanks Max, I appreciate all the info. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:37:24 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: Groovies Thanks Jeroen! So the 7" with three tracks on it has the same version of Shake Some Action as the album? The BBC's local London station is playing many people's preferred version and I did right to choose to buy the three-track 45 rather than the other 45. So that's allright then! Everything's fine in this part of the world.> No, you must get all the different versions of the song. I command you to do this. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:50:14 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2001 #83 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com [SMTP:owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:36 PM To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #83 While I do like both versions, Them's is the "naughtier" version lyrically. The SoK were asked to "clean it up" a tad for their version....I also dig the Wheels' version a lot, and the Boots' version because of the interesting way they arranged, or rearranged the chording. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:53:04 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2001 #83 -----Original Message----- From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com [SMTP:owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com] Sent: Friday, February 09, 2001 5:36 PM To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #83 While I do like both versions, Them's is the "naughtier" version lyrically. The SoK were asked to "clean it up" a tad for their version....I also dig the Wheels' version a lot, and the Boots' version because of the interesting way they arranged, or rearranged the chording. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:08:44 +0100 From: Michel en Saskia Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #81 Here's something I always wanted to find out: where did the Lyres get this song ("Here's a heart") from? I only have the Dave Dee etc. version which is radically different. Or did he just took this version and added the famous Lyres sound to it? Another odd song they completely made their own is "Can't stop the want", which I've got by Ready Steady Go dancer Sandy Sargeant. Any other versions exsisting? Finally, speaking of cover versions, I know "Shadows and reflections" (The Action) originates from the USA - did anyone else released this at the time besides The Lonely Crowde (MGM)? Michel Da Capo Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 19:16:33 -0800 (PST) From: karl roper Subject: Re: cover songs I dig all the covers the Lyres do but the standout as far as I'm concerned in respect to topping the original has to be "Here's A Heart". And seeing as you've brought up Patti Smith, her version of "Hey Joe" is a fantastic one. Karl. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:38:38 -0700 From: "D. Nowicki" Subject: Am.Breed versus SOK The American Breed and The Shadows of Knight also both did "I'm Gonna Make You Mine." As anybody on this list would probably expect, the savage SOK version reduces The American Breed to a thin red mist. This is not necessarily a swipe at the Breed, but the two interpretations of this song makes it pretty clear the bands had different outlooks on the pop sweepstakes. Dan N. Phoenix, Arizona, USA David Coyle wrote: > Well, I wouldn't entirely discount the American Breed. > "Bend Me Shape Me" is as good as any "teenbeat" song > of the period, and there are some good driving > rockers, especially "Step Out Of Your Mind" and "Green > Light." Maybe there are a lot of horns in the American > Breed sound...in fact I forgot them when we were > discussing pre-Chicago horn bands with an edge from > Chicago. > > A lot of listeners did get the wrong idea of the AB > after the title of "Step Out Of Your Mind," as they > weren't particularly psychedelic, but they did have a > lot of the R&B/soul influence that a lot of garage > bands picked up as the '60s rolled on. Even the > Shadows of Knight did Wilson Pickett songs, even if > they didn't lay on the horns like some of their local > contemporaries. > > Anyway, I don't think it's fair to pick on the > American Breed in this discussion. > > Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 18:52:40 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Lakritz Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #84 > > I have a couple of old 45's that I wondering about. > I thought this woud > be a good place to ask. > > 1. The Deep Six - Last Time Around/One And One > (Soft) I can't tell you EXACTLY where they're from, but it's gotta be somewhere around the Dallas/Ft. Worth area, 'cause Soft was one of Major Bill Smith (shady Fort Worth record mogul)'s many labels. Tim __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 16:19:51 -0500 (EST) From: troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) Subject: RE: Question on a couple of 45's Thanks Mike for the Info. That Orange Wedge 45 was indeed founf here in Indy a few years back. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 00:56:26 -0600 From: cyclops Subject: cyclops update #15 cyclops zine has been updated. This month we have a brand new Feature, a great interview with Johnny Walker of the Soledad Brothers. We have several new record reviews up including The Lost Sounds, the Scat Rag Boosters/Dixie Buzzards Split 7", the "O Brother, Where Art Thou?" soundtrack and Walter Daniels and the Druken Angels . Check out cyclops radio. Hear your favorite cyclops artist in streaming audio. So check it out at: http://ro.com/~monster8/ To remove yourself from this list reply with remove in the title. Mark cyclops zine: http://ro.com/~monster8/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 08:33:42 +0000 From: Steve Coleman Subject: Re: Moral Hi-Fi Ground At 19:35 9/2/01 -0600, Mike wrote: >"proper" transfer meaning the person who picks up a reissue should expect >the audio quality to be a close to the sound of the original recording as >possible. Listening to some of those "Boulders" cuts from the early 80's is >a good example. Thankfully, most of the comps sound a lot better than the >old days. I agree with you totally. My personal "favourite" in this category is the "Let 'Em Have It!" CD compilation of Michigan Bands. Poor original copies transferred with little care. Also "Dude", I did not miss your original point but attempted to look at the issue from another angle. Dig! >and you're phrase "laying down their scuzz...I do not think Bruce, Mike and >Bill went into Audio Recorders with the idea to lay down "scuzz"...these >stupid 70's punk rock ideologies and concepts that people use to describe >these sounds is ridiculous. Of course they did not, it was merely an ironic-moronic reference. Get yourself some discs by Armitage Shanks? >Sure, the recording engineers back then had no idea how to record rock & >roll bands. In the big studios, maybe. But the 60's bands didn't set out >to make crude sounding discs. Like I said in the original post, there _were_ exceptions. Yes, you are right, the bands did NOT set out to make crude sounds discs, they set out to make the best 45 EVER made! Something they could boast about to their peer group? Yes/No? The problem was that they were often up against poorly equipped studios, disinterested/unsympathetic engineers AND, in certain cases, their own ineptitude. These are generalisations but I reckon that's how it panned out on the whole. Steve ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2001 #85 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com