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bomp-digest        Monday, February 12 2001        Volume 2001 : Number 087



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   Re: bomp-digest V2001 #86
     "David Meyer" <joerugby@worldnet.att.net>
   Re: bomp-digest V2001 #86
     "David Meyer" <joerugby@worldnet.att.net>
   Februaries 11 & 12
     Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl
   Vegan restaurants (ignore if not interested)
     Boldface <boldface@easynet.co.uk>
   Re: Shake Some Action
     "Jeroen Vedder" <chiswick@wanadoo.nl>
   Radio Rumpus Room 2/9/01 playlist
     Ron Thums <rumpus2@bitstream.net>
   Rockpile reissue!?!?!?
     "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
   Rockpile reissue!?!?!?
     "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
   Turning 35
     yeeyeemgt@webtv.net (Michael Quirk)
   RE: Texas garage compilations
     "Lisa Rickenberg" <wiretap@nwlink.com>
   getting paid
     jschwart@voicenet.com
   Groovies' "When I Heard Your Name"
     jschwart@voicenet.com
   Re: Rockpile reissue!?!?!?
     Iam Fuzzco <fuzzco66@yahoo.com>
   Re: getting paid
     Iam Fuzzco <fuzzco66@yahoo.com>
   Re: getting paid
     Iam Fuzzco <fuzzco66@yahoo.com>
   RE: bomp-digest V2001 #86
     Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
   RE: getting paid
     "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
   Attention Austin Bomp-ers!
     "Evan Davies" <me@evandavies.com>
   RE: CCR/KKK
     Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
   RE: Rockpile reissue!?!?!?
     "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
   Re: Compilation Standards
     "Roberto Feruglio" <wrongway@libero.it>
   Re: Compilation Standards
     james <jamesbond@bond-partners.com>
   Vacation in Spain with Los Straitjackets...
     "Linda" <webmaster@coololdstuff.com>
   Re: CCR/KKK (I seriously doubt it)
     Redlabour@cs.com

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:38:28 -0500
From: "David Meyer" <joerugby@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #86

You are, of couse, quite correct.  I chose my words poorly,
which was the unintended result of a very very long workweek
and three rehearsals.  By no means should we support crap
for the purpose of propagating more crap.  I, also, feel no
obligation, per se, to support anyone.  What I was really trying to
say is rather targeted to those who believe that, just because those
who release comps put a lot of personal time, effort, etc, into the
endeavor,
this justifies not obtaining releases, paying royalties, etc.

Believe me, I think all these great people for their efforts as much
as anyone else.  However, the original poster was essentially arguing the
position that, "Without Tim's work those bands wouldn't get heard, so they
should be thankful." (paraphrasing)  That is true.  But without such wylde
recordings made back in the day, the compilers would have nothing to
release.  I honesly have no bloody idea how my earlier post strayed so
far from that point...maybe the time at which I wrote it.

And yeah, I'm a big fan of certain modern bands (Woggles, Mooney Suzuki,
Waistcoats, Embrooks, others)

Dave M



jschwart responded,
>
> My feelings on the subject are somewhat conflicted.
>  Iam, agree that putting more money in Tim, Miriam,
> Todd, Tony the Tyger's pockets, etc., is a GOOD thing,
> because it hopefully ensures we'll get more great
> current garage bands.  But I think the answer there is
> to make sure enough of us buy the NEW bands to make
> their continuing efforts to release such stuff a worthwhile
> endeavor.
>
>> Why do you feel that this is such a self-evident truth? Even aside from
the
>> underlying opinion that "great" current garage music is worth listening
to
>> at all (I think 99% of new, so-called garage music is completely boring;
>> you apparently like a lot of it -- and neither of us can prove that the
>> other's taste is wrong).
>>
>> But even if you like these bands, why do you think it is more important
to
>> support new music than old music? That's like saying you have to support
>> local bands, even if they stink.
>>
>> I personally feel no obligation to help keep young bands in vintage gear
>> and hot rod stickers, or to encourage their dreams of quitting their day
>> jobs. If that happens for them, more power to 'em, but it's not my
>> responsibility.
>

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:38:28 -0500
From: "David Meyer" <joerugby@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2001 #86

You are, of couse, quite correct.  I chose my words poorly,
which was the unintended result of a very very long workweek
and three rehearsals.  By no means should we support crap
for the purpose of propagating more crap.  I, also, feel no
obligation, per se, to support anyone.  What I was really trying to
say is rather targeted to those who believe that, just because those
who release comps put a lot of personal time, effort, etc, into the
endeavor,
this justifies not obtaining releases, paying royalties, etc.

Believe me, I think all these great people for their efforts as much
as anyone else.  However, the original poster was essentially arguing the
position that, "Without Tim's work those bands wouldn't get heard, so they
should be thankful." (paraphrasing)  That is true.  But without such wylde
recordings made back in the day, the compilers would have nothing to
release.  I honesly have no bloody idea how my earlier post strayed so
far from that point...maybe the time at which I wrote it.

And yeah, I'm a big fan of certain modern bands (Woggles, Mooney Suzuki,
Waistcoats, Embrooks, others)

Dave M



jschwart responded,
>
> My feelings on the subject are somewhat conflicted.
>  Iam, agree that putting more money in Tim, Miriam,
> Todd, Tony the Tyger's pockets, etc., is a GOOD thing,
> because it hopefully ensures we'll get more great
> current garage bands.  But I think the answer there is
> to make sure enough of us buy the NEW bands to make
> their continuing efforts to release such stuff a worthwhile
> endeavor.
>
>> Why do you feel that this is such a self-evident truth? Even aside from
the
>> underlying opinion that "great" current garage music is worth listening
to
>> at all (I think 99% of new, so-called garage music is completely boring;
>> you apparently like a lot of it -- and neither of us can prove that the
>> other's taste is wrong).
>>
>> But even if you like these bands, why do you think it is more important
to
>> support new music than old music? That's like saying you have to support
>> local bands, even if they stink.
>>
>> I personally feel no obligation to help keep young bands in vintage gear
>> and hot rod stickers, or to encourage their dreams of quitting their day
>> jobs. If that happens for them, more power to 'em, but it's not my
>> responsibility.
>

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:13:24 +0100
From: Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl
Subject: Februaries 11 & 12

Hi y'all,

Got time for the old days?

Not? TUFF! Yesterday & Today anyway!

On February 11, in

1963, the Beatles recorded 10 songs at London's Abbey Road Studios to
complete the 14 that would form their "Please please me" debut lp. "Love me
do" and "PS I love you" had been recorded on September 11, 1962 and "Please
please me" and "Ask me why" on November 26 of that year. Grab your own copy
to figure out those 10 songs recorded today in 1963;
1963, Ben E. King recorded "I (who have nothing)", in New York;
1968, the Beatles were scheduled to be filmed while recording "Lady
Madonna" at Abbey Road. Being quite productive at the time, they instead
recorded an altogether new song in front of the film crew: "Hey bulldog",
recording the basic tracks and overdubs in a 4 pm to 2 am session. Soon
after this session, on Fabruary 15 the Beatles left for India, to drink tea
and take yoga classes...
1968, Pink Floyd recorded a BBC session, playing "Vegetable man", "Pow R
Toc H", "Scream thy last scream" and "Jugband blues". The session is/was
available thru' a boot called "Syd Barrett, unforgotten hero";
1968, the Who recorded "Little Billy" at London's IBC Studios;
1969, Jimi Hendrix recorded "It's too bad" at New York's Record Plant;
1980, the Blue Oyster Cult played a gig at Poughkeepsie's Mid-Hudson Civic
Center. One song recorded then was "Dominance and submission", which ended
up opening their "Extraterrestrial live" album;
1981, the Dictators played a gig, somewhere in New York. 12 songs from that
gig ended up on "New York New York".

On February 12, in

1965, Paul Revere & the Raiders recorded "Sweets for my sweet" at Los
Angeles' Columbia Studios;
1970, Dusty Springfield recorded "Cherished" and "Goodbye" at
Philadelphia's Sigma Sound Studios;
1976, Thin Lizzy recorded a BBC session, playing "Emerald", "Jailbreak" and
"The cowboy song";
1977, the Police recorded "Fall out" and "Nothing achieving" at London's
Pathway Studios, for their debut 45;
1980, the Stiff Little Fingers recorded a BBC Peel session, playing "No
change", "I don't like you", "Fly the flag" and "Doesn't make it all
right".

That's it for today, back to work!

L8er,
Jan.

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:19:15 +0000
From: Boldface <boldface@easynet.co.uk>
Subject: Vegan restaurants (ignore if not interested)

I was supposed to send this info to someone but accidentally deleted their
address from my in-folder. So, if you're not vegan and not coming to
London, just ignore this... Sorry.


>>Most restaurants here have a decent vegetarian selection these days, and
many of those dishes will actually be vegan anyway. Indian and Chinese
restaurants, for example, if they serve a vegetarian meal there is unlikely
to be anything in it that would be unsuitable for a vegan. (So long as you
check that the noodles don't have egg in them and that cream isn't used in
sauces... Well, I'm sure you know better than I what to watch out for.)

However, the following two places have been recommended by one friend as
fairly good and inexpensive:

Bella Ricco, 56 Chapel Market N1 (Angel tube)

Hare Krishna, Soho Square W1 (Tottenham Court Road tube)

These are recommended by someone else that I know who is vegan:

Carnivale, Whitecross Street EC1 (Old Street tube)

Mildreds, 58 Greek Street W1 (Leicester Square tube)<<

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:57:58 +0100
From: "Jeroen Vedder" <chiswick@wanadoo.nl>
Subject: Re: Shake Some Action

On Fri, 9 Feb 2001 Greg Shaw <greg@bomp.com> wrote;
>>>> I'm pretty sure the Skydog stuff (Blues for Phyllis, etc) was 
recorded before they went to England, but I don't know exactly 
when or where.<<<<<

Right, 1971 to be precise, most of these tracks were recorded in 
Danny Mihm's living room.
 
>>>>>(Can't Explain? I'm hazy) <<<<<

This is a session warm-up take, done for either 'Teenage Head' or 
'Flamingo', the exact details can be found in an excellent new Roy 
Loney interview on www.i94.com

And on Sun, 11 Feb 2001 ronald and karen sanchez 
<eldeluxe@mcn.net> wrote;
>>>>>The other track cut at capitol was I Heard Your Name, which 
for some reason has never got a real release. In the late 70's Cyril 
was talking about some single he wanted to put out, and I 
mentioned that they should use I Heard Your Name as the flip. He 
liked that idea, but of course the planned single never came 
out.<<<<<

'When I Heard Your Name' can be found on the UK 'Move It' 45 
(Sire SIR 4002).

>>>>> This was when Jumpin In The Night was just being released 
in the UK. They didn't have a copy yet so they brought in some 
cassettes they had from the 1978 Rockfield sessions. Most of 
what they had was just backing tracks with no vocals! Curiously 
enough one of those was It Won't Be Wrong, the Byrds
tune. This was never released, and I'm not sure that they even 
finished it. <<<<<

'It Won't Be Wrong' did turn up on the US edition of "Jumpin' In The 
Night', both 'Jumpin'' and 'Now' have different track listings on either 
side of the atlantic.

Anyways, on why the Groovies never really made it; I always 
thought it was the strong reliance on other peoples material that 
did them in, esp when they had such great songwriting talent 
themselves. Sire UK failed to push any of the band's originals after 
SSA and the other 45s they put out were all covers; 'Don't You Lie 
To Me', 'Feel A Whole Lot Better', 'Move It' and 'Absolutely Sweet 
Marie'. Not a good move in the punk days when hero worship of 
60s stars was at an all-time low. Live tapes from this area paint a 
simular picture with set-lists all most entirely devoted to the 
Beatles/Stones/Byrds songbooks.

Jeroen Vedder

==========================================
>>>>>  New e-mail adress; chiswick@wanadoo.nl  <<<<<
==========================================

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:45:12 -0600
From: Ron Thums <rumpus2@bitstream.net>
Subject: Radio Rumpus Room 2/9/01 playlist

Hey there folks,

This week we debuted "Legend City," a great new comp of mid-Sixties
Phoenix, Arizona garage sounds, courtesy of the good folks at Bacchus
Archives/Dionysus. We also justified (to ourselves, anyway) splurging
several months garage rent on a fat order of irresponsible noise from the
Norton Records catalog. (I felt most fortunate to be able to replace my
copy of "Surfin' In The Midwest, Vol.3" that disappeared itself a year and
a half ago, but the Sixties Mexican and Peruvian garage on the Spanish
Electro-Harmonix label continues to whack us 'longside our collective
noggins as well!) Mindblower of the evening: Las Dilly Sisters -- a tiny
yet tuneful pair of Mexican pre-adolescents who, back in 1968, covered the
Standells' signature song in a most astounding manner. Check this damn
thing out in this week's Real Audio archives and give your miserable life
new meaning!

As always we say "thanks" to the artists and labels responsible for
producing tonight's music, and to the loyal listeners who encourage us to
air it every week! (For six years now, Radio Rumpus Room has been broadcast
Fridays at 9-10:30 p.m. on KFAI Fresh Air Radio, FM 90.3 Minneapolis and
106.7 St. Paul. The show streams live in RealAudio, and as always, our most
recent shows are archived in their entirety in RealAudio -- check out the
RRR web page to see what we've been up to!)

Here's the Radio Rumpus Room playlist for Friday, February 9, 2001:

SAVVY SHOW STARTER (ALWAYS LOCALLY RECORDED!)
Safety Last -- Little Pig (CD-R)

We squeezed a two-song CD-R outta this rockin' Minneapolis threesome, but
are still waiting on the full enchilada. One of these days, right guys?!?!?

Jackie and the Cedrics -- Mockingbird (Presenting Jackie and the Cedrics
10"; Norton)
Powder Puffs -- You Can't Take My Boyfriend's Woodie (Surf Bunnies & Hot
Rod Honeys; Superb)
Untamed Youth -- Drag Race Tragedy (7"; Hillsdale)
Van Dykes -- No Man Is an Island (Tellin' It Like It Is; Sundazed)

Gants -- Six Days in May (Road Runner!: The Best of the Gants)
Lori Wray -- Dirty Little Boy (Hisstory; Spitbite)
The Hobbit -- Top of the Morning (Legend City: Phoenix's Viv-Debra
Recording Studios 1965-'67; Bacchus Archives/Dionysus)
Pretty Things -- Midnight to Six Man (Get the Picture?; Snapper)
Bedlam Four -- No One Left to Love (7"; Caped Crusader)

Michael & the Messengers -- Romeo & Juliet (Nuggets box; Rhino)
Little Bits -- Girl, Give Me Love (Yeah Yeah Yeah; Cheep! Cheep!)
Vaqueros -- Growing Pains (Get a Move On; Teenage Shutdown)
Las Dilly Sisters -- Sometimes Good Guys Don't Wear White (The East Side
Sound 1959-1968; Bacchus Archives/Dionysus)

Premiers -- Daytona (Hot Rod Hop; Buffalo Bop)
Competitors -- R.P.M. (The Hondells, Vol. 3: Aliases and Alternatives; ATM)
Wheelmen -- School Is A/Gas (Revells' The GO Sound of the Slots!; Sundazed)
World Famous Blue Jays -- This Car of Mine (Smiles, Vibes, and Harmony: A
Tribute to Brian Wilson; DeMilo)
Untamed Youth -- Girl and a Hot Rod (Some Kinda Fun!; Norton)

Marauders -- Caliente (Surfin' In The Midwest, Vol. 3; Unlimited Productions)
New World Relampagos -- El Tren de las Tres y Diez (New World Relampagos;
Sirena)
Los Locos del Ritmo -- Nena No Me Importa (Rock con Los Locos del Ritmo
10"; Electro-Harmonix)
Keith Green -- Girl, Don't Tell Me (The Legendary of Gary Usher, Vol. 3; CD-R)

Andre Williams & the Sadies -- She's a Bag of Potato Chips (Red Dirt;
Bloodshot)
Devvy Davenport -- Big Cowboy (Ordinary Rockin' Girls; White Label)
Georgia White -- Hot Nuts (Get 'Em From the Peanut Man) (Men Are Like
Street Cars...; MCA)
Go-Nuts -- The Fabulous Go-Nuts Theme! (Dunk and Cover!; Lookout!)
Los Saicos -- Demolicion (Los Saicos: Wild Teen Punk From Peru 1965 10";
Electro-Harmonix)

And that was that!

Coming up in two weeks: Our sixth annual midwinter "Day The Surf Stood
Still" show, broadcast from the frozen shores of Minneapolis' Lake Calhoun!
Break out your down-filled Hawaiian shirts and check out the
instro-mentality!

Ron

________________
RADIO RUMPUS ROOM: An unholy mix of surf, hot rod, rockabilly,
'60s garage, psychedelia, primal pop and traditional and alt.country
KFAI 90.3 FM (Minneapolis) and 106.7 FM (St. Paul)
Now streaming live in RealAudio every Friday 9-10:30 p.m. CST
Recent archived shows in RealAudio, playlists and much more at:
http://www2.bitstream.net/~rumpus2/

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:49:49 -0500
From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
Subject: Rockpile reissue!?!?!?

Ice, the CD new release newsletter in the US, says that Sony/Columbia's
gonna reissue the Rockpile album from 1980 "remastered with bonus tracks."

Anyone know if this just means the four Everly Brothers songs that came on
the 7-inch record with the original album--which I think were already on the
CD that's been out there--or some new tracks? 

ANd if new songs, which ones? 

And does the new reissue still have the Everly Brothers songs? 

Thanks for any or all answers. 

Jeffery Lindholm
jrl6b@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu
University of Virginia Health System
Communications and Public Relations

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:49:49 -0500
From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
Subject: Rockpile reissue!?!?!?

Ice, the CD new release newsletter in the US, says that Sony/Columbia's
gonna reissue the Rockpile album from 1980 "remastered with bonus tracks."

Anyone know if this just means the four Everly Brothers songs that came on
the 7-inch record with the original album--which I think were already on the
CD that's been out there--or some new tracks? 

ANd if new songs, which ones? 

And does the new reissue still have the Everly Brothers songs? 

Thanks for any or all answers. 

Jeffery Lindholm
jrl6b@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu
University of Virginia Health System
Communications and Public Relations

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:53:59 -0500 (EST)
From: yeeyeemgt@webtv.net (Michael Quirk)
Subject: Turning 35

Didn't get to NH, but did get to do Coffee N' Smokes 1st Anniversary
Show in which I vowed that if Bo Belinsky nailed Tina Louise and Mamie
Van Doren, heck, I'd still bang 'em now cuz I'm the horniest man on
Earth. Of course, they'd have to get past the beautiful Miss Brenda,
especially since she's having a more successful career than Tina and
Mamie these days. Brenda had a car accident and hurt her back so we
chose not to go to NH. We still had a good time nonetheless. Look
forward to rockin' this month for JJ.

MJ

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 07:06:41 -0800
From: "Lisa Rickenberg" <wiretap@nwlink.com>
Subject: RE: Texas garage compilations

> The Mindrocker volume of Texas stuff is indeed fantastic.  It's actually
almost exactly the same as Acid Visions vol. 1, with one or two different
tracks.  I think it actually sounds a little better too (higher quality
german vinyl, maybe?), but Acid Visions would probably be MUCH easier to get
your mitts on.
>
>
> I don't know if you can still get this, but Line Records of
> Germany released
> a pretty good Texas comp back in '82...it was vol. 4 of their MINDROCKER
> series.
>
> ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <===
>
>

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:07:20
From: jschwart@voicenet.com
Subject: getting paid

"BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)" <blackmonk@email.msn.com>:

>And I'd bet that if you asked any of these bands if they'd expect to be paid
when someone reissues their singles 30 years from now, they'd say a very
emphatic YES.

I certainly couldn't blame them, especially if they never made any money
for their efforts in the first place. 

However, they wouldn't all be that emphatic I don't think. Friends of mine
who released a one-off, thoroughly-unsuccessful power pop 7" in the early
'80s were recently contacted by some guy in Holland who wanted to put it on
a comp, and wanted their permission to release it in exchange for, I think,
ONE free copy of the CD. They said they really didn't care either way (if
it were me, I would have insisted on at least many more copies in exchange
for official permission, not that this project was worth suing over).

Many (certainly not all) people who were in obscure old bands are happy
that anybody still cares about what they did, and aren't worried about
being paid for the memories.

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 11:11:16
From: jschwart@voicenet.com
Subject: Groovies' "When I Heard Your Name"

ronald and karen sanchez <eldeluxe@mcn.net>

>The other track cut at capitol was I Heard Your Name, which for some
reason has never got a real release. In the late 70's Cyril was talking
about some single he wanted to put out, and I mentioned that
they should use I Heard Your Name as the flip. He liked that idea, but
of course the planned single never came out. 

As previously posted, the song was released as the flip of, er, one of the
versions of "Shake Some Action," on a 45 by the German label Line Records
at some point in the 1980s. It's a really good song, certainly deserving of
wider exposure.

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:15:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Iam Fuzzco <fuzzco66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Rockpile reissue!?!?!?

- --- "Lindholm, Jeffrey"
<JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Ice, the CD new release newsletter in the US, says
> that Sony/Columbia's
> gonna reissue the Rockpile album from 1980
> "remastered with bonus tracks."
> 
> Anyone know if this just means the four Everly
> Brothers songs that came on
> the 7-inch record with the original album--which I
> think were already on the
> CD that's been out there--or some new tracks? 
> 
> ANd if new songs, which ones? 
> 
> And does the new reissue still have the Everly
> Brothers songs? 
> 
> Thanks for any or all answers. 

I'm on a Nick Lowe list, and I have not heard ANYTHING
about this.  And there is no mention at: 

http://www.nicklowe.com/

As far as I can tell. 



__________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:57:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Iam Fuzzco <fuzzco66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: getting paid

- --- jschwart@voicenet.com wrote:
> 
> "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)"
> <blackmonk@email.msn.com>:
> 
> >And I'd bet that if you asked any of these bands if
> they'd expect to be paid
> when someone reissues their singles 30 years from
> now, they'd say a very
> emphatic YES.

My old boss recorded and entire psych album for
Capitol back in 60's.  The album has since been
re-released as a bootleg CD from Europe. He buys'em
every chance he gets, so he can give them to friends
and is thrilled that it is out there at all. 

He told me he'd like to know who is making, not
because he wants to sue them or get royalties, but
simple to find out WHY they chose his old band, and
thank them (and maybe get some free CD's...) 



__________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 08:57:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Iam Fuzzco <fuzzco66@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: getting paid

- --- jschwart@voicenet.com wrote:
> 
> "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)"
> <blackmonk@email.msn.com>:
> 
> >And I'd bet that if you asked any of these bands if
> they'd expect to be paid
> when someone reissues their singles 30 years from
> now, they'd say a very
> emphatic YES.

My old boss recorded and entire psych album for
Capitol back in 60's.  The album has since been
re-released as a bootleg CD from Europe. He buys'em
every chance he gets, so he can give them to friends
and is thrilled that it is out there at all. 

He told me he'd like to know who is making, not
because he wants to sue them or get royalties, but
simple to find out WHY they chose his old band, and
thank them (and maybe get some free CD's...) 



__________________________________________________

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:25:28 -0800
From: Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2001 #86

<Even though "I've Got a Tiger in my Tank" is credited to The Beachnuts
along with "Cycle Annie" (which is DEFINITELY Lou's work, as is The
Roughneck's tune--great song!,--IGATIMT sure don't feature the vocalisings
of Mr. Reed, which makes me wonder if he had a hand in that tune at all.  It
doesn't show up on The VU Etc. collection, which has both the other
Soundsville cuts, and  The Primitives tracks as well...  Just a case of The
Beachnuts' name being applied willy nilly to another track they had lying
around? >

Not all the songs that Reed had a hand in feature him singing, some include
only him playing guitar (or bass), such as "Why Don't You Smile Now." The
Shades (or the Jades), his first group, does not feature him singing lead,
just harmonies. There are actually two different versions of "Tiger In My
Tank," one featuring tiger roaring sound effects (released by the
Intimates), and one without (the Beechnuts). The more well-known version
(w/o the roars) is on the "Everything You've Ever Heard About The V.U."
bootleg collection, not that that would mean it has Reed on it - the
collection also features a glaring mistake repeated again and again by
bootleggers, the inclusion of "Afterhours" by the Carol Lou Trio, a piece of
light cocktail jazz from the early '70s that Reed had nothing to do with.
The confusion started because the song is credited to a "L. Reed," and has
the same name as a V.U. song, but that's where the simularity ends. However,
according to M.C. Kostek's "V.U. Handbook," Reed does appear on "Tiger," as
the author did incredibly detailed research, including researchig Pickwick
archives for session sheets that show songs Reed had a hand in as
writer/session musican/etc.
I once saw the Carol Lou Trio single on Ebay go for an incedible amount of
money, and the seller even went so far as to claim it was an earlier version
of the famed V.U. song, which is utterly insane, they don't sound at all
alike (and the Carol Lou Trio song was recorded years AFTER the V.U., song!!
 

Alan   

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:43:44 -0500
From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
Subject: RE: getting paid

What band did your old boss record for, and is the album any good? Or is it
a secret?

Jeffery Lindholm
jrl6b@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu
University of Virginia Health System
Marketing and Communications

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Iam Fuzzco [SMTP:fuzzco66@yahoo.com]
> Sent:	Monday, February 12, 2001 11:57 AM
> To:	bomp@xnet2.com; bomp@screamer.xnet2.com
> Subject:	Re: getting paid
> 
> 
> 
> --- jschwart@voicenet.com wrote:
> > 
> > "BlackMonk \(Tom,as always\)"
> > <blackmonk@email.msn.com>:
> > 
> > >And I'd bet that if you asked any of these bands if
> > they'd expect to be paid
> > when someone reissues their singles 30 years from
> > now, they'd say a very
> > emphatic YES.
> 
> My old boss recorded an entire psych album for
> Capitol back in 60's.  The album has since been
> re-released as a bootleg CD from Europe. He buys'em
> every chance he gets, so he can give them to friends
> and is thrilled that it is out there at all. 
> 
> He told me he'd like to know who is making, not
> because he wants to sue them or get royalties, but
> simple to find out WHY they chose his old band, and
> thank them (and maybe get some free CD's...) 
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:42:27 -0500
From: "Evan Davies" <me@evandavies.com>
Subject: Attention Austin Bomp-ers!

Hey you Austinites, please read the message below and get in touch with my
e-pal Cathy if you're interested.

- ----

This is directed at the Bomplist members who live in Austin, and I know
there's a few of you. I'm in charge of SXSW Homestay - which means I find
host homes for volunteers and  indie film-makers coming in from out of town
for the conference. (FYI - This is not band housing!) Anyone with a spare
bed or a pullout couch (okay, even just a comfy couch) and the kindness to
put up one or two (or more) folks for a few nights, please contact me.
You'll earn some karma, my eternal gratitude (not much monetary value there
unfortunately) and SXSW perks (like a music wristband).

If you are interested e-mail Cathy at sonic5@well.com

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 09:49:23 -0800
From: Alan Wright <AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org>
Subject: RE: CCR/KKK

 <Considering that I have never heard a peep about this subject until its 
unsupported - and still unsupported - post from a week ago, I have to say 
that I can see the connection between CCR and the KKK.  I mean, you can 
tell just by looking at Fogarty...COME ON, PEOPLE! 
Jim 
www.groovedisques.com >

So, what is the connection...or were you being sarcastic?

Alan 

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 12:48:30 -0500
From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu>
Subject: RE: Rockpile reissue!?!?!?

Don't have the ICE newsletter here at work, but will check it again tonight
at home. That's all I know. 

Jeffery Lindholm
jrl6b@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu
University of Virginia Health System
Marketing and Communications

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Iam Fuzzco [SMTP:fuzzco66@yahoo.com]
> Sent:	Monday, February 12, 2001 11:16 AM
> To:	bomp@xnet2.com
> Subject:	Re: Rockpile reissue!?!?!?
> 
> 
> 
> --- "Lindholm, Jeffrey"
> <JRL6B@hscmail.mcc.virginia.edu> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ice, the CD new release newsletter in the US, says
> > that Sony/Columbia's
> > gonna reissue the Rockpile album from 1980
> > "remastered with bonus tracks."
> > 
> > Anyone know if this just means the four Everly
> > Brothers songs that came on
> > the 7-inch record with the original album--which I
> > think were already on the
> > CD that's been out there--or some new tracks? 
> > 
> > ANd if new songs, which ones? 
> > 
> > And does the new reissue still have the Everly
> > Brothers songs? 
> > 
> > Thanks for any or all answers. 
> 
> I'm on a Nick Lowe list, and I have not heard ANYTHING
> about this.  And there is no mention at: 
> 
> http://www.nicklowe.com/
> 
> As far as I can tell. 
> 
> 
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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:38:16 +0100
From: "Roberto Feruglio" <wrongway@libero.it>
Subject: Re: Compilation Standards

Talking about comps I quoted as example the liner notes of the Outcasts'
anthology "All of their singles are included on this compilation with the
exception of their first (which was not up-to-par with their subsequent
releases)". Then...

>From: "Mike Dugo" Subject: Compilation Standards
>It really pisses me off when a compilation or anthology leaves off a track
or two due to standards...especially when there is obviously plenty of room
to include it. Let ME decide what is or isn't up to "standards". I like MANY
garage songs that get slammed by the majority of collectors, so let me hear
the damn song, and I'LL decide if it's up to my standards...not the
compilers.

Sorry but I hadn't thought of the matter in that light. I wrote, "I need not
to buy the comps that don't satisfy my standards". I decide. It doesn't
matter compiler/collector/pal's conviction, but this doesn't prevent some
songs from being evidently (without a doubt) out-of-place, compared to the
others. I know there is no accounting for tastes, but I guess one must be
deaf if he doesn't notice that difference. I haven't found the perfect comp
series yet. Does it exist? More volumes = more songs I dislike. BFTG is my
standard, nevertheless on it there are a few (very few) tracks that have not
the same destroying power of the others, and they disappoint me. I'm sure
the compiler was fully aware of that, but he liked them. Instead it's
relatively easy to find a faultless single comp. I'm not surprised to hear
someone who mentions "No No No" (and they're very many James!); I don't like
that sound, but if I liked it I should be crazy about it. That's the best
way of compiling. When you find some disappointing tracks, you can
pass over them; bearing or skipping them, but you feel cheated. Coming back
to Collectables' resolution: I think it's a noble purpose to spare my
deception. I repeat... When it's obvious the disparity of quality. I said,
"Many compilers should follow this example" because on a comp I cannot
regret the lack of a track (maybe I could if the comp bases itself on the
bands' geographical origin, who knows), but I can complain the presence. On
an anthology (band/label's story) it's a question of completeness mainly. I
remember Mouse & The Traps' "Public Execution" (Eva CD) which compiled all
their singles: Eva had to fill room; or "Naw, Naw, Naw" on Liberty Bell's
"Reality is the only answer": also a stone should refuse to hear... And the
list goes on and on... But I was interested in the comps' discussion.

Roberto

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:58:33 -0500
From: james <jamesbond@bond-partners.com>
Subject: Re: Compilation Standards

I was upset that the "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah" comp was so lame compared to
wonderful "No, No, No"....

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:10:41 +0000
From: "Linda" <webmaster@coololdstuff.com>
Subject: Vacation in Spain with Los Straitjackets...

Man, this sounds like a blast...

- -Linda

- - - - - - - - - - - - - 

Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 13:10:57 -0500
From: Jake Guralnick <jakeg@fastpointmail.com>
To: Lsjunkmail <lsjunkmail@listserv.telalink.net>
Subject: Travel To Spain With Los Straitjackets!!

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Date: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 14:33:01 EST
From: Redlabour@cs.com
Subject: Re: CCR/KKK (I seriously doubt it)

Greetings,

I think this whole associating white supremacy with decent rock n roll
act is quite disheartening.  I like to listen to (early) Siouxsie and the
Banshees myself.  She wore a Swastika arm band in one of her
earliest show, circa 1977-1979.  I also like Joy Division and New 
Order.  I seriously doubt that they are white supremacist.  In fact,
I could be wrong, but I sense a GAY FRIENDLY lyrics in some
songs like "Disorder" form Joy Division's debut UNKNOWN PLEASURES.
The Smiths in the song "Hang the DJ" was complaining about the
clubs playing "too much black music", but I really doubt that the
Smiths or Morrisey are racists.  Billy Bragg wouldn't have work or
have anything to do with them.  If I'm correct, the Smiths/Morrissey,
Billy Bragg, the (English) Beat are supporters of  <A 
HREF="http://www.labour.org.uk/">British Labour Party</A> ,
as far as I can tell, which indicates that they are a moderate shade of
RED.

For Bread and Roses,
Melvin Little
Email: redlabour@cs.com
Homepage: <A HREF="http://ourworld.cs.com/redlabour/index.htm">
http://ourworld.cs.com/redlabour/index.htm</A>  

In a message dated 2/12/01 9:57:57 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
AlanW@SeattleArtMuseum.org writes:

<< Subj:     RE: CCR/KKK
 Date:  2/12/01 9:57:57 AM Pacific Standard Time
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  <Considering that I have never heard a peep about this subject until its 
 unsupported - and still unsupported - post from a week ago, I have to say 
 that I can see the connection between CCR and the KKK.  I mean, you can 
 tell just by looking at Fogarty...COME ON, PEOPLE! 
 Jim 
 www.groovedisques.com >
 
 So, what is the connection...or were you being sarcastic?
 
 Alan 
 
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