From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #90 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Wednesday, February 14 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 090 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: February 14 Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl home recording act Don Smith Re: Urban Spacemen and Wayfaring Strangers John McIntyre Re: xenophobic rot and mildew Sknoof@aol.com Happy Birthday yeeyeemgt@webtv.net (Michael Quirk) Xenophobic rot, mildew, and the Zombies "Crawdaddy Simon" Re: home recording act Moparlary@aol.com Re: xenophobic rot and mildew "Raymond Tucker" Bollywood Documentray?!?!? "Raymond Tucker" Re: home recording act "nipper@thestranger.com" Re: home recording act Rat Pfink Mojor labels/ major rip-off james Re: Moral High Ground MissRubyStarr@aol.com Re: xenophobic rot and mildew psautier@wanadoo.fr Re: home recording act "nipper@thestranger.com" Re: home recording act Moparlary@aol.com Re: home recording act/mini disks MaximumMarshak@cs.com R&YL Iam Fuzzco pre-shock Scott Gardner RE: bomp-digest V2001 #89 Alan Wright Check out eBay item 556705271 (Ends Feb-16-01 22:14:34 PST) - BIGSTAR721@cs.com RE: Knights of Fuzz audio line-up (Unclaimed/Gravedigger V) Timothy Gassen A Valentines Wish Hotline Underground Re: home recording act "fbrandon" RE: Skrewdriver Rat Pfink Re: home recording act Rat Pfink Re: Happy Birthday DCAMPA@austin.rr.com Re: Skrewdriver Redlabour@cs.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:56:40 +0100 From: Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl Subject: February 14 Hi y'all, Roberto Feruglio wrote: >>Feel free to lay this blame on me! << Thank Gosh! GUYS!! It's now official: Roberto is to blame!!! Guaranteed Free of Whatever-Wing-Politics, this is what happened on Valentine's Day in the past: On February 14, in 1949, Stick McGhee recorded "Tall pretty woman" and "Drinkin' wine spo-dee-o-dee", in New York; 1957, Elvis Presley recorded "Loving you" at Los Angeles' Radio Recorders; 1958, Jerry Lee Lewis recorded "High school confidential" at Memphis' Sun Studios; 1958, Chuck Willis recorded "Hang up my rock and roll shoes" and "What am I livin' for", in New York; 1967, Aretha Franklin recorded "Respect" at New York's Atlantic Studios; 1968, the Velvet Underground recorded "Inside your heart", in New York; 1969, Mandrake Paddle Steamer recorded "Strange walking man" at Abbey Road. To be found on "Psychedelia at Abbey Road"; 1970, the Who played a gig at Leeds' University; 1978, Magazine recorded a BBC session, playing "Touch and go", "The light pours out of me", "Definitive gaze" and "My mind ain't so open"; 1982, Sippie Wallace recorded "Suitcase blues" and "You got to know how", in Ann Arbor. That's it for now, back to the MUSIC!! L8er, Jan (listening to "Yeah yeah yeah", "No no no" soon to follow.....) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:51:30 -0500 From: Don Smith Subject: home recording act >For those of you who don't remember or weren't around at the time, there was an effort> to tax blank cassettes in the USA in the early to mid 1980's. Gosh! Who was >leading this benevolent effort on behalf of artists? The Recording industry! >Fortunately the concept tanked due to consumer opposition and the fact that they >couldn't figure out a way to equitibly distribute the proceeds of this so called >copyright tax. are you positive this wasn't worked into the law that passed in 1982, the Home Recording Act? as far as I know that money STILL isn't distributed equitably. that tax was paid by the tape manufacturer though Don ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:28:07 -0500 From: John McIntyre Subject: Re: Urban Spacemen and Wayfaring Strangers Warning: the accompanying CD is only sixteen minutes long. A bit of a letdown after the first book's forty-some minute long CD. John McIntyre Physics - Astronomy Domine Dept Michigan State University mcintyre@pa.msu.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:58:43 EST From: Sknoof@aol.com Subject: Re: xenophobic rot and mildew From P. Sautier: <> Please take this as the GENTLE rebuke that it is, P., but your entire missive reeks of the very xenophobia that you're trying to put yourself above. Read it again. Just tryin' to help, Mike F. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:10:10 -0500 (EST) From: yeeyeemgt@webtv.net (Michael Quirk) Subject: Happy Birthday If you see porno star Porsche Lynn around, don't forget to wish her a happy birthday! Give Porsche tribute, make love to your honey while watching a Porsche Lynn film. She's made over 130 of them. MJ's romance tip for V-Day. MJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:45:06 -0500 From: "Crawdaddy Simon" Subject: Xenophobic rot, mildew, and the Zombies On that matter, BBC journalist Nick Fraser's documentary on European right-wing extremists, "Voyage au bout de la droite", remains essential viewing. >There is nothing to be compared in Europe to the black and whites relations (or general absence of relations) > in the US. What about the case of Maghreb people in France, or Turkish and Kurd people in Germany? I'm not saying it compares for sure, but I'd like to hear your opinion. > Real extremist things like white supremacism or aryan shit are very specific to America But Jean-Marie Le Pen, Jorg Heider, various Scandinavian black metallers, etc. all have brown shirts and racist skinheads in their following. These dangerous clowns certainly aren't exclusive to the States. We have some in Canada as well, for instance. I mean, just because you can't see them through your window doesn't mean they're not in your backyard. What do you think? Otherwise, I'm very excited 'cause I just got the Zombies box set! : ) Dig, Crawdaddy Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:46:32 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: home recording act I think some mutation of the original proposal was passed, but not the original concept of directly taxing the consumer. Will have to research. firing up the coal powered computer...Moparlary In a message dated Wed, 14 Feb 2001 8:50:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Don Smith writes: << are you positive this wasn't worked into the law that passed in 1982, the Home Recording Act? as far as I know that money STILL isn't distributed equitably. that tax was paid by the tape manufacturer though Don >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:18:17 -0500 From: "Raymond Tucker" Subject: Re: xenophobic rot and mildew Everyone enjoys meeting others with shared interest, background, beliefs, heritage etc. In some cases, folks may exclude others based on their lack of this common ground (isn't that partially the basis of a list such as this? We don't have discussions of bands like Alabama or Garth Brooks, for example, though I'm sure there are folks on this list which listen to this type of music. Likewise I would hardly go to a discussion group for either of these artists and expect much acknowledgement for my interest in bands like Bubble Puppy or Red Crayola) Anyway there is a long stretch between indulging in this kind of thing and attempting to injure or immobilize others for their lack of shared background or perspective. I think probably most people on this list (myself included of course) have found themselves situated across a wide spectrum of such thought at one time or another, but hopefully not the the degree exhibited by the extremist element. Does this make sense? Maybe not, so I'll shut up and listen to some tunes. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 9:58 AM Subject: Re: xenophobic rot and mildew > > From P. Sautier: > > < racist, while it tends to be the other way round in the US. Also, people termed extreme right in Europe have a political agenda which is pretty close to the ones that, say, Georges Wallace or Newt Grinch had or have. > Real extremist things like white supremacism or aryan shit (not to mention militiaes, which are not possible here where arms are actually banned) are very specific to America, as they are dealing with subjects which are still touchy in Europe, where actual memories from the nazi times are still vivid (except in the UK, something which can explain for the childish provocations like Siouxsie's swastikas or New Order's name, bands which are not having an ideology anyway). This said, people in Europe can at the same time be xenophobes and have leftist or communist options, all the more so in the UK which owns the toughest working class in Europe, or the thoughest classes relationship, should I say. Hence the surprising lyrics in some of the Smiths songs: in a Jean Genet (read: homosexual) way, Morrissey is fascinated by the brit working class and allows himself, from time to time, to revel into some of its most dubious beliefs. Pretty immature, if you ask me. P. >> > > Please take this as the GENTLE rebuke that it is, P., but your entire missive reeks of the very xenophobia that you're trying to put yourself above. Read it again. > > Just tryin' to help, > Mike F. > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 12:21:53 -0500 From: "Raymond Tucker" Subject: Bollywood Documentray?!?!? Does anyone out there know of a source for the UK documentary series about the Indian film/music industry entitled "Movie Mahal"? I picked up a few of CDs which compile some of the tracks and would love to see the programs. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:39:53 -0800 From: "nipper@thestranger.com" Subject: Re: home recording act >>there was an effort> to tax blank cassettes in the USA in the early to >>mid 1980's. Gosh! Who was >leading this benevolent effort on behalf of >>artists? The Recording industry!...the concept tanked due to consumer >>opposition and the fact that they >couldn't figure out a way to equitibly >>distribute the proceeds of this so called >copyright tax. I'm almost positive this is a law...er, well...or at least the major record labels collect a royalty from each blank tape/CDR sold in order to make up for their (presumed) loss via home dubbing...hmmmm, I then wonder which labels collect this royalty..like,.who gets what and why? WHICH seems a bit unfair if only a few select labels to collect the $$$$ as all labels are at risk of being "pirated"... nipper ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:02:14 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: home recording act I thought that the Home Recording Act tax was specific to DAT tapes, not analog cassettes, hence the high cost of DATs and the reason they never caught on big. Consumer CD-Rs didn't even exist at the time the Act was passed. At 09:39 AM 2/14/01 -0800, you wrote: > >>>there was an effort> to tax blank cassettes in the USA in the early to >>>mid 1980's. Gosh! Who was >leading this benevolent effort on behalf of >>>artists? The Recording industry!...the concept tanked due to consumer >>>opposition and the fact that they >couldn't figure out a way to equitibly >>>distribute the proceeds of this so called >copyright tax. > >I'm almost positive this is a law...er, well...or at least the major record >labels collect a royalty from each blank tape/CDR sold in order to make up >for their (presumed) loss via home dubbing...hmmmm, I then wonder which >labels collect this royalty..like,.who gets what and why? WHICH seems a >bit unfair if only a few select labels to collect the $$$$ as all labels >are at risk of being "pirated"... > >nipper - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:23:46 -0500 From: james Subject: Mojor labels/ major rip-off There's no end on how the majors rip-off the consumer (and most artists). It's quite funny how they defend themselves against Napster with the same hysteria/ paranoia they had about blank tapes. the fact that they can't use Napster and other similar services to their advantage illustrates just how short sighted and lacking in imagination and innovation they truly are. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:27:50 EST From: MissRubyStarr@aol.com Subject: Re: Moral High Ground Iam Fuzzco sez: >> What's all this talk about The Moral High Ground? Is it Kenne Highland's new band? Shoot, if any of y'all know us, y'all know we ain't got NO morals... Miss Ruby ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:16:02 +0000 From: psautier@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: xenophobic rot and mildew Hey, this is a list, so all rebuke or comments are welcome, if not deserved; anyway, who am I to consider myself above anything ? More seriously, if you have such a feeling, blame it on my broken english, not on my intentions. This said, I don't get it: who do you think I am being xenophobic with ? Georges Wallace, aryan brotherhoods, paki-bashing hooligans, Austria's Heider or France's Le Pen, members of New Order who have an obvious political thoughtlessness for picking up such a name... Dunno, really. Basically, I was just trying to confirm that Siouxsee, Morrissey and others have nothing in common with Skrewdriver in spite of some immature - this term I certainly maintain - lyrics or attitudes, though this can't be assessed on the basis of them not making reference to white supremacism, as the latter is not really an issue here in Europe - but we have other misdemeanors to deal with, to be sure. P. >Please take this as the GENTLE rebuke that it is, P., but your entire missive reeks of the very xenophobia that you're trying to put yourself above. Read it again. > >Just tryin' to help, >Mike F. > ><racist, while it tends to be the other way round in the US. Also, people termed extreme right in Europe have a political agenda which is pretty close to the ones that, say, Georges Wallace or Newt Grinch had or have. >Real extremist things like white supremacism or aryan shit (not to mention militiaes, which are not possible here where arms are actually banned) are very specific to America, as they are dealing with subjects which are still touchy in Europe, where actual memories from the nazi times are still vivid (except in the UK, something which can explain for the childish provocations like Siouxsie's swastikas or New Order's name, bands which are not having an ideology anyway). This said, people in Europe can at the same time be xenophobes and have leftist or communist options, all the more so in the UK which owns the toughest working class in Europe, or the thoughest classes relationship, should I say. Hence the surprising lyrics in some of the Smiths songs: in a Jean Genet (read: homosexual) way, Morrissey is fascinated by the brit working class and allows himself, from time to time, to revel into some of its most dubious beliefs. Pretty immature, if you ask me. P. >>> > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:18:38 -0800 From: "nipper@thestranger.com" Subject: Re: home recording act >I thought that the Home Recording Act tax was specific >to DAT tapes, not analog cassettes, hence the high >cost of DATs and the reason they never caught on big. >Consumer CD-Rs didn't even exist at the time the Act >was passed. hmmm, so when exactly did this, the "home taping" issue, begin? I remember it as '80 or '81...did DATs exist then? or were DATs involved as it took so long to get resolved in the courts thatby then DATs were invented? ...everyone I knew who owned a DAT machine, studio guys mostly, chucked 'em as they never worked well, like they were poorly engineered and very frustrating to deal with...hahahahahaha...so that, and the DATs inflated cost, is why I though no one bought the DAT! Kinda like the brilliant Sony mini disc...how many times has THAT been marketed...unsucessfully... nipper ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:20:03 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: home recording act The copyright act was amended in 1992 to specifically deal with digital audio recording devices. This requires each device to have a "serial copy management system" to prevent the thing from being used to produce bootleg copies of legit CD's. It also requires the manufactor of digital recording devices to put 2 percent of the "transfer" (purchases) price into a copy right management fund, up to a maxiumum of $12 a single machine. Now comes the interesting part on how its divided: The royality goes to two funds. 1.About 66 percent to the sound recording fund, managed by the Amercian Federation of muscians and an independant administrator. 2.33 1/3 percent (great number!) goes to the musical works fund, which is distributed to copyright holders. Publishers are entitled to 50 percent of this kitty and writers can tap 50 percent of it by applying to the libarian of congress. Now where does it say how the libarian of Congress decides how much those parties receive. To read the whole act, surf your ass over to : www.virtualrecording.com/ahra.htm get your money moparlary In a message dated Wed, 14 Feb 2001 8:50:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Don Smith writes: << > are you positive this wasn't worked into the law that passed in 1982, the Home Recording Act? as far as I know that money STILL isn't distributed equitably. that tax was paid by the tape manufacturer though Don >> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 14:29:21 EST From: MaximumMarshak@cs.com Subject: Re: home recording act/mini disks I know as a medium for "Product" they never took off, but they are very popular amongst electronic/experimental types. I use them for all my backing tracks when playing out (boo, hiss!! yuck drum machines!) and they sound really warm. They're also very flexible as you can slice, dice, and rearrange the tracks. Another plus is archiving stuff in mono, as you can double the disks length when recording in mono. Mini disks rule!!! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:38:59 -0800 (PST) From: Iam Fuzzco Subject: R&YL Did anyone check out Richard and the Young Lions at that Sunday night gig a couple weeks back? How was it? __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:04:09 -0800 From: Scott Gardner Subject: pre-shock For those of you coming to Austin for G-Shock, thought you might like to know that there is going to be another showcase on Thursday and Friday of the same wekend. It will be at the Room 710, a mere two blocks away from Emo's (staggering distance). Below is the line-up so far, which I got off of banana-truffle. Sherry is the organizer and she rocks. Scott BOOK THAT FLIGHT ONE DAY EARLIER!! Arrive Thursday night for the Pre- Shock showcase!! I know you out-of-towners have heard all you can hear about the Sons of Hercules and never have been blessed to see'em!! The details are being worked out for the final line-up, but it sorta stands as follows for Room 710: Thursday – May 24th (Rock Night!) *************************************** *SONS OF HERCULES (SA/Austin) *IMMORTAL LEE COUNTY KILLERS *JEWWS (Houston) *FEAST OF SNAKES (Dallas) James Arthur (Fireworks, Blacktop, Memphis Leggs+more), Alex Cuervo, (King Sound Quartet/Gospel Swingers+more), Hank (ite) (Deadites+more) and Angolique (Sillies+more) they were smokin' in Dallas last Friday w/ ILKC and Bobb Logg III *TITZ (Austin) And if that's not enough, you can go between GS bands (2 blocks away): Friday – May 25th (Shake Night!! – top four bands have Farfisa!) *********************************************************************** *Gospel Swingers (Dallas) *Frigg-A-Go-Go (Lafayette) *Deadites (Austin/Dallas) *Down-N-Outs (Denver?) *Hatchbacks! (Austin) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 15:46:06 -0800 From: Alan Wright Subject: RE: bomp-digest V2001 #89 Alan Wright wrote: >Subject: RE: %%-/+++ >[...my post...] > >So, what is the connection...or were you being sarcastic? Sorry. I was being extremely sarcastic. I couldn't believe that an odd, nnocent question that no one could add a grain of "truth" to resulted in o much speculation, with each reply containing the unfortunate association of initials. It seemed like we were creating a horrible rumor out of nothing. My intent was to "stop the madness." Jim (Mr. Righteous)> I kinda figured you were being sarcastic, but it's hard to tell with the written word sometimes. Plus, it's not like this has come up before. People still go on, and have gone on even on this list in years previous, about that pic take of Miriam Linna in front of the White Supremacist HQ taken as a joke that she must be a racist which makes no sense considering how much black, Hispanic and Asian rock n' roll Norton has reissued and carried in their mailorder! Anyways, on to another point. For years I have heard how people consider the first Skrewdriver LP a classic, what with it being or a pre-racist nature, and I guess for me the fact that they released so much shit after and the whole ideology behind them made me not really pay much attention even to that supposed "pre-racist" first LP. Anyways, it was just this weekend that someone actually played me some early Skrewdriver 1977-79, all the time going, "Yeah, it's cool, no racist shit, etc." and I'm listening, and while it isn't as in your face as their later stuff, I have to say that I heard things that definitely were, or could be interpreted, as leaning that way. One song, "A Matter Of Pride," is certainly racist. Others, while not being like their later stuff, some of which I've heard, or as out and out racist like say "White Power" or something, if you read between the lines, there's certainly something there. Anyways, just some food for thought. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2001 23:47:29 EST From: BIGSTAR721@cs.com Subject: Check out eBay item 556705271 (Ends Feb-16-01 22:14:34 PST) - 1960's EKO 700V To: bomp@xnet2.com Sender: owner-bomp@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the body X-Bomp-Web-Site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com Click here: eBay item 556705271 (Ends Feb-16-01 22:14:34 PST) - 1960's EKO 700V3 electric guitar from Italy ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 09:55:40 -0700 From: Timothy Gassen Subject: RE: Knights of Fuzz audio line-up (Unclaimed/Gravedigger V) Roberto, The Unclaimed song on the upcoming Knights of Fuzz CD-ROM is "Run From Home," and the Gravedigger V song is "She Got." Both seminal snot-garagers, I think. Your '80s garage web site, by the way, is great. Bompers should take a look: ....::the wrong way: your on£y alternat!ve @nd the other po§ibilities::.... I'd like to hear from Bompers your fave garage tracks from 1980-2000... Fuzz on, Timothy Gassen Director/Producer Purple Cactus Media Productions www.azstarnet.com/~tgassen/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:43:06 -0800 (PST) From: Hotline Underground Subject: A Valentines Wish Heck with all those restraining orders out there maybe he should change his name to Stereo! __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 18:03:31 -0800 From: "fbrandon" Subject: Re: home recording act hmmmm-that leaves 2/3 of a per cent (or is that where the "about" comes in?)---my guess is that Allan Klein gets it mathematically yours, frank - -----Original Message----- From: Moparlary@aol.com To: bomp@xnet2.com Date: Wednesday, February 14, 2001 11:31 AM Subject: Re: home recording act > >The copyright act was amended in 1992 to specifically deal with digital audio recording devices. This requires each device to have a "serial copy management system" to prevent the thing from being used to produce bootleg copies of legit CD's. It also requires the manufactor of digital recording devices to put 2 percent of the "transfer" (purchases) price into a copy right management fund, up to a maxiumum of $12 a single machine. > Now comes the interesting part on how its divided: >The royality goes to two funds. > 1.About 66 percent to the sound recording fund, managed by the Amercian Federation of muscians and an independant administrator. > 2.33 1/3 percent (great number!) goes to the musical works fund, which is distributed to copyright holders. Publishers are entitled to 50 percent of this kitty and writers can tap 50 percent of it by applying to the libarian of congress. Now where does it say how the libarian of Congress decides how much those parties receive. > To read the whole act, surf your ass over to : >www.virtualrecording.com/ahra.htm > > get your money moparlary > > > >In a message dated Wed, 14 Feb 2001 8:50:14 AM Eastern Standard Time, Don Smith writes: > ><< >> >are you positive this wasn't worked into the law that passed in 1982, >the Home Recording Act? as far as I know that money STILL isn't >distributed equitably. that tax was paid by the tape manufacturer though > >Don > > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > >> > > > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:04:57 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: RE: Skrewdriver "A Matter of Pride" wasn't on the the first, pre-racist Skrewdriver record. The debut 45rpm LP on Chiswick, while definitely working-class and right-leaning, *was* free of the blatant racist shit that Ian Stewart later spewed. It's actually a pretty decent punk '77 record, although I think the people that declare it a classic are going a bit overboard... At 03:46 PM 2/14/01 -0800, you wrote: > >Anyways, on to another point. For years I have heard how people consider the >first Skrewdriver LP a classic, what with it being or a pre-racist nature, >and I guess for me the fact that they released so much shit after and the >whole ideology behind them made me not really pay much attention even to >that supposed "pre-racist" first LP. Anyways, it was just this weekend that >someone actually played me some early Skrewdriver 1977-79, all the time >going, "Yeah, it's cool, no racist shit, etc." and I'm listening, and while >it isn't as in your face as their later stuff, I have to say that I heard >things that definitely were, or could be interpreted, as leaning that way. >One song, "A Matter Of Pride," is certainly racist. Others, while not being >like their later stuff, some of which I've heard, or as out and out racist >like say "White Power" or something, if you read between the lines, there's >certainly something there. > >Anyways, just some food for thought. > >Alan - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:30:24 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: home recording act The URL you supplied doesn't work, but you can get the text here: http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c102:H.R.3204: At 06:03 PM 2/15/01 -0800, you wrote: > >> To read the whole act, surf your ass over to : >>www.virtualrecording.com/ahra.htm - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:04:16 -0800 From: DCAMPA@austin.rr.com Subject: Re: Happy Birthday You can be Lyn-in (lying) on a porsche! Or come on a Porsche.... Dennis Michael said: > If you see porno star Porsche Lynn around, don't forget to wish her a > happy birthday! Give Porsche tribute, make love to your honey while > watching a Porsche Lynn film. She's made over 130 of them. > > MJ's romance tip for V-Day. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:55:33 EST From: Redlabour@cs.com Subject: Re: Skrewdriver Dear Bompers, I knew this guy who was a non racist punk. He had a high reagrd for Screwdiver. However, he said there were times that it could sound like Molly Hatchet. Melvin Little In a message dated 2/14/01 8:15:18 PM Pacific Standard Time, ratpfink@akamail.com writes: << Subj: RE: Skrewdriver Date: 2/14/01 8:15:18 PM Pacific Standard Time From: ratpfink@akamail.com (Rat Pfink) Sender: owner-bomp@xnet2.com Reply-to: bomp@xnet2.com To: bomp@xnet2.com "A Matter of Pride" wasn't on the the first, pre-racist Skrewdriver record. The debut 45rpm LP on Chiswick, while definitely working-class and right-leaning, *was* free of the blatant racist shit that Ian Stewart later spewed. It's actually a pretty decent punk '77 record, although I think the people that declare it a classic are going a bit overboard... At 03:46 PM 2/14/01 -0800, you wrote: > >Anyways, on to another point. For years I have heard how people consider the >first Skrewdriver LP a classic, what with it being or a pre-racist nature, >and I guess for me the fact that they released so much shit after and the >whole ideology behind them made me not really pay much attention even to >that supposed "pre-racist" first LP. Anyways, it was just this weekend that >someone actually played me some early Skrewdriver 1977-79, all the time >going, "Yeah, it's cool, no racist shit, etc." and I'm listening, and while >it isn't as in your face as their later stuff, I have to say that I heard >things that definitely were, or could be interpreted, as leaning that way. >One song, "A Matter Of Pride," is certainly racist. Others, while not being >like their later stuff, some of which I've heard, or as out and out racist >like say "White Power" or something, if you read between the lines, there's >certainly something there. > >Anyways, just some food for thought. > >Alan ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | ----------------------------------- ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ----------------------- Headers -------------------------------- Return-Path: Received: from rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (rly-zb01.mail.aol.com [172.31.41.1]) by air-zb02.mail.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:15:18 -0500 Received: from screamer.xnet2.com (xnet2.com [206.196.80.100]) by rly-zb01.mx.aol.com (v77_r1.21) with ESMTP; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:15:11 -0500 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by screamer.xnet2.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id WAA14139 for bomp-outgoing; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:05:20 -0600 Received: from avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.50]) by screamer.xnet2.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA14135 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 22:05:13 -0600 Received: from local (sdn-ar-001paharrP003.dialsprint.net [158.252.6.11]) by avocet.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id UAA10065 for ; Wed, 14 Feb 2001 20:05:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.20010214230457.008ec320@mail.earthlink.net> X-Sender: ratpfink@mail.earthlink.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:04:57 -0500 To: bomp@xnet2.com From: Rat Pfink Subject: RE: Skrewdriver In-Reply-To: <11658A9F54F9CF11870D006097677B9A0170A69C@BABYLON> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-bomp@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp" in the body X-Bomp-Web-Site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com >> In Left Unity, Melvin Little Email: redlabour@cs.com Homepage:http://ourworld.cs.com/redlabour/index.htm I believe in Socialism because I believe in humanity. - -Eugene V. 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