From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2001 #91 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Thursday, February 15 2001 Volume 2001 : Number 091 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: drumming sons "JOE ABRAMS" A gig between here and there??? SSamSS@aol.com Re: Go Go Gorilla Jeff Kopp Re: Go Go Gorilla Jeff Kopp Re: CCR "JOE ABRAMS" Re: ccr / kkk "JOE ABRAMS" Re: Skrewdriver "Laurent Bigot" Re: Skrewdriver Rat Pfink Rock Against Racism jschwart@voicenet.com Re: Knights of Fuzz audio line-up "Roberto Feruglio" DATs etc "The Dilemmas" Re: Xenophobic rot, mildew, and the Zombies psautier@wanadoo.fr ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:58:32 -0500 From: "JOE ABRAMS" Subject: Re: drumming sons I just had "Hawaii 5-O" out looking up his dad's name when I read this- Leon and Mel were in the Air Force and stationed here in Dayton at Wright Patterson AFB. There was a Larry Taylor in the Ventures in the early 70s also and I'm not sure if he's related. Also- Dick Dale's teenage son is his drummer. >From: "Sam Elwitt" >Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com >To: >Subject: Re: drumming sons >Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:13:31 -0500 > > >Someone may have beat me to this: > >The Ventures' drummer is Leon Taylor, son of the late great Mel Taylor. >I understand Mandy Moon (Keith's daughter) is a drummer, but I don't have >any further details _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:00:49 EST From: SSamSS@aol.com Subject: A gig between here and there??? Howdy folks... We (Mondo Topless, that is) got a show up in Worcester, MA on Saturday March 10th w/ The Nines and the Downbeat 5 (thanks, JJ!!!). Wondering if anybody can suggest and/or help us out with a possible show the night before, somewhere between Philly (our current state of placement) and Worcester. I'm thinking NYC, Hartford, something like that. Kinda short notice, but I figger what the heck. Feel free to email me off-list. Thanks! Sam :) www.mondo-topless.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:08:34 -0600 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: Go Go Gorilla on 2/14/01 4:01 AM, Alan Wright wrote: > I think the original was by the Shandells, but I'm not sure. I have it on > "Scum of the Earth" and one of those "Wave Gravy" comps. > > Alan I thought the original was actually "Mo Gorilla" by The Ideals. kopper =================================================================== THE WAYBACK MACHINE - Check our Rants'n'Raves board for reviews! More than just a radio show web site: http://www.inlink.com/~kopper Primitive garage rock'n'roll, '60s/'70s punk, R&B, surf & hot rod Saturday nights: Midnight-2am (CST) KDHX-FM 88.1, St. Louis, Mo. Live netcast in RealAudio: http://www.kdhx.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 23:20:35 -0600 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: Go Go Gorilla on 2/13/01 4:00 AM, bomp-digest at owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com wrote: > I believe it was done by The Ideals as "The Gorilla." > (Courtland 1963). I'm not sure if it's been comped or > not. They also did a sequel called "Mo Gorilla" which > I haven't heard yet. Another great version was done > by The Jaguars. > > Brian > NFTG Whoops! Just saw this post from Brian. That's what I get for reading digests backwards. The Ideals' "Mo Gorilla" is on the Shakin' Fit compilation on Candy. I've never heard "The Gorilla." Interesting... kopper ================================================================ THE WAYBACK MACHINE: A Rock'n'Roll Action Adventure (in Stereo)! 43,000 watts of primitive garage punk, R&B, surf & hot rod Saturday nights: Midnight-2am (CST) KDHX-FM 88.1, St. Louis, Mo. Check out the Web site: http://listen.to/wayback-machine Live netcast in RealAudio: http://www.kdhx.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 00:50:16 -0500 From: "JOE ABRAMS" Subject: Re: CCR Yeah, I've listened to "Cosmo's Factory" about three times this month. It's hard to tell the originals from the covers aside from my own and probably everybody's superfamiliarity with the material. Pretty much all their lps with the full line up are consistently R&B flavored, and Klansmen are definitely NOT comfortable with "that colored music". Bluegrass bands are where you'll typically find real nutzoid Klansmen types. And I've developed a sort of classist/racist formula of my own where bluegrass is concerned- you can always tell the truly great bands by how severely ugly the members are. Any bunch of pickers that looks like a family of trolls are guaranteed to blow away any band Dolly Parton can ever muster. >From: brian marshall >Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com >To: bomp@xnet2.com >Subject: Re: CCR >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 12:03:07 -0800 (PST) > > > >--- james wrote: > > > > . It is > > confirmed, however, that > > they did sell their souls to Beezelbub in exchange > > for 'Proud Mary' cracking > > the top forty. > > >Ha ha haaaaah! I don't think you can blame "selling >your soul to Beelzebub " for that one. The song >itself is not bad. The real villian in this case is >overkill (like it is with so many other songs). > >BTW, how the hell do rumors like this get started >anyway? > >Brian >NFTG > >So ding me on the head. I like CCR, okay? > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to > > majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > >__________________________________________________ > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 01:06:29 -0500 From: "JOE ABRAMS" Subject: Re: ccr / kkk >From: "(gopher) george rollins" >Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 12:47:01 -0800 (PST) > > > >the question doesn't merit comment. it is nonsense (as anyone familiar with >the history of the band should recognize), clearly designed only to rouse >rabble. > >i'm dismayed that anyone on this list was gullible enough to respond, and >certainly hope that no one else will waste space doing so. > >thank you for your time, and attention. -g. > And here I thought it didn't merit comment! _________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 08:07:47 +0100 From: "Laurent Bigot" Subject: Re: Skrewdriver The debut 45rpm LP > on Chiswick, while definitely working-class and > right-leaning, *was* free of the blatant racist > shit that Ian Stewart later spewed. I never noticed anything right leaning in that LP but maybe it's because english is not my birth language. I read somewhere that the drummer of the original skrewdriver was actually a socialist and was very pissed off when he heard that Stuart had turn the band into that white power bullshit combo. It's actually > a pretty decent punk '77 record, although I think > the people that declare it a classic are going a > bit overboard... > Well, this is one of my 10 fave LPs of all time but maybe your judgement has more value than mine... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 02:14:51 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Skrewdriver It's just my opinion, friend, and you know what they say about those... Just out of curiosity, what are the other nine of your top ten? At 08:07 AM 2/15/01 +0100, you wrote: > > It's actually >> a pretty decent punk '77 record, although I think >> the people that declare it a classic are going a >> bit overboard... >> > >Well, this is one of my 10 fave LPs of all time but >maybe your judgement has more value than mine... - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 03:45:32 From: jschwart@voicenet.com Subject: Rock Against Racism With all the posts about racism, Skrewdriver, etc., I'm reminded of a question that may be old news on this list, but I don't recall it ever being addressed. In short, what's the deal with the name of this band: *JEWWS (Houston) Since I think some of them are ON this list, I'm optimistic about getting a primary-source answer and not just hearsay. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:48:46 +0100 From: "Roberto Feruglio" Subject: Re: Knights of Fuzz audio line-up The "Run From Home" Unclaimed re-recorded for Voxx is one of the greatest garage tracks from the 80s. >I'd like to hear from Bompers your fave garage tracks from 1980-2000... It's hard to choose among the ones included on the mini-lps The "Now" Sound Of The Tell-Tale Hearts, Yard Trauma, and We're Outta Place or Sick Rose's Get Along Girl! ep. BTW my faves come from Sweden: Backdoor Men's Out Of My Mind & Crimson Shadows' Even I Tell Lies. Roby ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 09:37:42 -0000 From: "The Dilemmas" Subject: DATs etc Just a quick response to the below, from the UK angle. DAT tape machines as a consumer format never caught on here: too expensive, too elitist, perceived as difficult to use, not given much marketing push although a few titles did get released on DAT in the early 90s (Smiths and Nirvana are two I remember seeing). But audio DAT machines are standard mastering equipment in most studios and are often used in the field by radio reporters. Tapes are about a pound fifty upwards (about $2.50) so I don't know if that includes any local tax in the UK. Minidiscs are far more popular here than in the US and are becoming commonplace as a home-recording medium to replace cassettes. Great format, I like them a lot. cheers, Phil Dil >...everyone I knew who owned a DAT machine, studio guys mostly, chucked 'em >as they never worked well, like they were poorly engineered and very >frustrating to deal with...hahahahahaha...so that, and the DATs inflated >cost, is why I though no one bought the DAT! Kinda like the brilliant >Sony mini disc...how many times has THAT been marketed...unsucessfully... ************************************ Phil Clark Developer, The Interactive Agency phil.clark@theinagency.com http://www.theinagency.com direct line: +44 (0)208 600 9435 ************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:51:00 +0000 From: psautier@wanadoo.fr Subject: Re: Xenophobic rot, mildew, and the Zombies Hu ho, I didn't want to start a debate, especially this far from this list's interests. But since you ask... >>There is nothing to be compared in Europe to the black and whites relations >(or general absence of relations) > in the US. > >What about the case of Maghreb people in France, or Turkish and Kurd people >in Germany? I'm not saying it compares for sure, but I'd like to hear your >opinion. Don't read me wrong: immigrants are getting as much bad treatments (from silent despising to the occasional wanton murder) as in America, for people are not better here. Difference is, the next generation is getting integrated by the way of marriages. For instance and in the case of France which I am of course more familiar with, immigrants from Italia or Poland in the 20s or from Spain and Portugal in the 50s were in the same position than people from Algeria or Sri-Lanka today: but nobody mentions them today (ever heard of a so-called 'Italian issue' in France ?) because their community (a word which doesn't belong to the local vocabulary) has simply simply melted away into the rest of the population. Given the present rate of inter-racial/inter-national marriage, a safe bet is that the same will happen with their successors today. Now, this rate is 5 to 6 times what the black/white marriages rate is in the USA; where black people didn't arrive recently. >But Jean-Marie Le Pen, Jorg Heider, various Scandinavian black metallers, >etc. all have brown shirts and racist skinheads in their following. These >dangerous clowns certainly aren't exclusive to the States. We have some in >Canada as well, for instance. I mean, just because you can't see them >through your window doesn't mean they're not in your backyard. What do you >think? Sorry to confirm my previous comments (which on second thought may have been considered as xenophobic towards America by this other subscriber who commented on my post), but Front National, Vlaams Blok, OeVP, Lega and the like have agendas no more extreme than Buchanan's one, I could even mention Bush Jr here. Skinheads and other clowns in their following are no more than a few hundreds in each of the countries considered, less than ten thousand in all of the EEC. And they are not allowed to be exceedingly dangerous because arms and racist propaganda (be it a book, a speech, etc.) is illegal. So that even a notorious antisemite like Le Pen can't allude to his weird 'beliefs' in public. >Otherwise, I'm very excited 'cause I just got the Zombies box set! : ) Much more to the point, is true. ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2001 #91 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com