From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2002 #15 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Monday, January 7 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 015 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: Wilko Johnson Jangellamf@aol.com bass & guitar "Jeff Lemlich" Re: Guitar Solos troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) Elliot Randall, not Easton, on that one "Barry Stevenson" Re: Elliot Randall, not Easton, on that one Jangellamf@aol.com Re: Wilko Johnson "Crawdaddy Simon" Re: Guitar Solos Jangellamf@aol.com Re: Just Like Me SSamSS@aol.com Re: bass & guitar Jangellamf@aol.com Re: 7" vinyl: yes or no? SSamSS@aol.com Re: "You're My Guitar Hero !" "Lenny Smith" Best wishes [was Re: bass & guitar] "Lenny Smith" Re: P.J. Proby HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: seven-inch vinyl HOODOO3005@aol.com wicked drum fills and/or solos HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: non-garage instrumentals HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: non-garage instrumentals HOODOO3005@aol.com re Wilko "mohair" Re: re Wilko Jangellamf@aol.com Re: Non-garage instrumentals Dj45rpm@aol.com My golden drum moment Tim Lakritz Re:7 inchers "JOE ABRAMS" Re: The HYPSTRZ - Hypstrization album Ron Thums More catching up done Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:27:53 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: Wilko Johnson In a message dated 01/06/2002 4:21:37 PM Pacific Standard Time, crawdaddy.simon@sympatico.ca writes: > Mick Green is god, and Wilko Johnson is his prophet. > > Dig, > > Crawdaddy Simon>>>> Prefer Peter Green and Robert Johnson myself, but to each his own! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:33:13 -0500 From: "Jeff Lemlich" Subject: bass & guitar The bass in "My Flash On You" just kills me! It really makes the song. Thee Sixpence's version especially (hey, that's two votes for Strawberry Alarm Clock related guys). As for guitar solos... one that's just right is "Mechanical World" by Spirit. Just enough oomph without overdoing it... and so damn melodic for such an "underground" sound. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com P.S. I'll be off list for perhaps up to a week. My roommate's mom just got killed in a car crash, and I'm going up to the funeral with him. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:50:03 -0500 (EST) From: troggman@webtv.net (Todd Lucas) Subject: Re: Guitar Solos >"From Your Girl" The Muffs Definitely agree with this one. It's one of the prettiest solos I can think of. Todd ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 19:06:24 -0800 From: "Barry Stevenson" Subject: Elliot Randall, not Easton, on that one Doh.... How could I get the 3rd most famous strat guitarist and the creator of those great Randall amplifiers from the 70's mixed up... Gotta watch those threads!! "putting down the bong now".. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:06:14 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: Elliot Randall, not Easton, on that one True--after all, Easton was a Car and Randall's best known gig was in Sha Na Na....Saw Randall play with Bowzer et al when I was in college--he cut loose with a Fran Beecher rip that made the roof explode ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 21:47:51 -0500 From: "Crawdaddy Simon" Subject: Re: Wilko Johnson Haha, you're all right Johnny! Crawdaddy Simon Jangellamf@aol.com wrote: > Prefer Peter Green and Robert Johnson myself, but to each his own! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:10:10 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: Guitar Solos In a message dated 01/06/2002 6:51:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, troggman@webtv.net writes: > "From Your Girl" The Muffs > > Definitely agree with this one. It's one of the prettiest solos I can > think of. > Basically a chord solo, hence, excellent! Kim gets it! ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:10:56 EST From: SSamSS@aol.com Subject: Re: Just Like Me In a message dated 1/6/2002 9:22:12 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > This is prob'ly gonna hurt you as much as it hurt me, if you're a > fan... .....outcome of all that was that he would show up > in-studio less and less > often. > ......Weird, eh? > Damn. That's both weird and crushing. Another fantasy of youth down the laundry chute. Phooey. I'd figure that if you're happy with the group, happy that the group is doing well, etc., then you'd be happy to be playing, and want the credit for it. Sam :) - -------------------------------------------- Mondo Topless World HQ www.mondotopless.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:11:04 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: bass & guitar In a message dated 01/06/2002 6:49:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, limeston@bellsouth.net writes: > The bass in "My Flash On You" just kills me! It really makes the song. > Thee Sixpence's version especially (hey, that's two votes for Strawberry > Agreed--it's overpowering in a way that Jack Bruce attempted many times and never got......... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:15:27 EST From: SSamSS@aol.com Subject: Re: 7" vinyl: yes or no? The first 2 things we ever put out were 7" singles. Then a CD. Then 7" EP, and another CD. Our most recent release is a 7". They're not really big sellers at all, and current labels don't put them out to sell lots of copies; they use them as calling cards, send 'em to radio stations for airplay, and publications for review. They also like to use them as teasers for upcoming full-length CDs/LPs. I like 'em myself. I think they're fun to release, and there's still definitely a niche market for them. Sam :) - -------------------------------------------- Mondo Topless World HQ www.mondotopless.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:43:06 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: "You're My Guitar Hero !" "Crawdaddy Simon" wrote: > Guilty Child - DMZ Nice to see them listed--Greenberg and JJ both got beautifully NASTY, snarling sounds... Guilty Child has a smokin' blast of a lead, but I think myself I'd go for the searing psych of "When I Get Off"... > The Plan - Richard Hell And The Voidoids Another good call, Simon; Quine is absolutely amazing. My own fave: "Love Comes in Spurts." I mentioned earlier that I was having trouble choosing a fave Cyril Jordan tune; I see you couldn't do it in less than 5, LOL. I won't even try. But then Simon throws in for good measure the Velvets, which reminds me of yet another ALL-TIME favorite shredder--"I Heard Her Call My Name." Owwwww!!! I haven't been the SAME since I first heard that cut (uh, so LONG ago that I don't recall anymore same as WHAT!). Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:48:51 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Best wishes [was Re: bass & guitar] "Jeff Lemlich" wrote: > P.S. I'll be off list for perhaps up to a week. My roommate's mom just got > killed in a car crash, and I'm going up to the funeral with him. Jeff, sorry to hear you'll be away under such unfortunate circumstances. Good luck (that's a very sad detail you've undertaken), and hurry back. Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:57:41 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: P.J. Proby In a message dated 1/6/02 8:33:15 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << Much like Tom Jones he did some good stuff and a whole lot of bad stuff. I mean, avoid the West Side Story songs like the plague! What a pile of crap! But he's okay when covering old r&b type tracks. These'll be on his albums though, not on the 45s. In fact, imo, none of his 45s are worth bothering with. Well, with one exception, which is the one he did in the 50s under the name of Jett Powers, "Go Girl Go" on the Design label. A real tough rocker. >> One (American) Proby single that's worth a damn: His only US hit, "Niki Hoeky" (1967). The flipside, "Good Things Are Coming My Way," is good too, although it sounds like it was recorded four years earlier, with a string section straight off of a Ben E. King or Gene McDaniels record. Both are in the soul bag, which is where he should have stayed. Also keep on the lookout for his vicious version of "Stagger Lee." James ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:00:45 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: seven-inch vinyl In a message dated 1/6/02 8:33:15 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << do people on this list have an opinion as to > whether it's at all > worthwhile for a band that is just starting out to > do a 7" release? Do > people still buy them? I do. I have heard that they're becoming more and more costly to make (and one label I talked to was even thinking of dropping them), but there's just something about a 7" single as opposed to a demo CD. A 7" is just more special to me. >> But they gotta improve the damn mastering (if not the mix)! Some of these new indie-label 45's sound like gravel. James ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:11:46 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: wicked drum fills and/or solos "Fried Hockey Boogie," Canned Heat "Teen Beat," Sandy Nelson "Funky Nassau," Beginning Of The End "Dance To The Music," Sly & The Family Stone (simple and metronomic, but it works) and if congas & bongos count... "Phallus C," Osibisa (right on for the guitar break, as well) "Bongo Rock," Preston Epps (the 70's version by the Incredible Bongo Band is good, too) "Son Cuero Boogaloo," Fania All-Stars James ____________________________________________________________________ In a message dated 1/6/02 8:33:15 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << i'll give ringo his due, the fill on anthology 2 in "strawberry fields" is INSANE! i don't care if he multitracked it or not, he blows my mind. as a whole, i'd say pretty purdie's "soul drums" is a great example of drum fills, as sampled by beck on "the new pollution". and of course, any drum fill by patrick keeler from the greenhornes. he's the king and will be studied for years to come. >> ____________________________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:31:52 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: non-garage instrumentals In a message dated 1/6/02 8:33:15 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << "Any other non-garage indie-instrumental(original)surprises out there (beyond the usual suspects like Agent Orange and the Hoodo Gurus)?" >> First off, I didn't know there were many GARAGE instrumentals (unless you're referring to surf or Link Wray or something), apart from Davie Allan, or filler cuts from ? & the Mysterians or similar acts...enuff of the splitting hairs, here's some instrumentals I dig that definitely AREN'T garage or related (or original, in some cases). Don't think they're "indie-rock," either, but get a load of these: "The Magnificent Seven," Al Caiola "Exodus," Eddie Harris "Wade In The Water," Ramsey Lewis "Don't Knock My Love - Part Two," Wilson Pickett "Live It Up - Part Two," Isley Brothers "Last Date," "On The Rebound," Floyd Cramer "Cast Your Fate To The Wind," Vince Guaraldi "Outa Space," Billy Preston "Viva Tirado," El Chicano "The Minotaur," Dick Hyman (great early synth instro, ca. 1969) "Six," Madhouse too many Martin Denny songs to list here "Jungle Fever," Chakachas (porno-funk ca. 1972) "Libra," Sagittarius "I Can See Clearly Now," Funk, Inc. "Dynomite," Tony Camillo's Bazuka ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:34:40 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: non-garage instrumentals hey, forgot something..."Loose Goose" by Dust ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 23:03:03 -0600 From: "mohair" Subject: re Wilko From: "Tom" >You're right. I don't know Wilko Johnson. If he were a buddy of mine and he >bought me a beer every weekend, then I might not think Dr. Dupree sucks. *** I mean not "know" in the sense that you may not be as much of a fan. Still, even if you ain't a hardcore fan it I still can't imagine you mean it sucks in the way that Foreigner does. :o) The other solo things I've heard by him range from tolerable to good, but I can't stand the "sorta Reggae" feel on Dr. Dupree. *** Interesting. If reggae ain't comin' outta R&B and a legit groove then I don't know what is. Does this mean the Clash, or anybody else chuckin' in a guitar "chink" now and again is bad? Or just that that ain't your bag? Sure some guy pullin the "rasta" thing is pushin the limits or Stink doin his "dee doo doo doo" blah blah... I can see a whole lot of "bad" bands spoilin' that thing but for my dough Wilko and Lew, or even just Lew Lewis himself doing "Caravan Man" is one of the great moments in Brit R&B sport. I did like him with Dr. Feegood, and he played some nice stuff on Mick Farren's album, but if Dr. Dupreee is one of his best tracks, then I'll pass on the solo catalog. *** Don't let it pass you buy as the Northerners say. Farren's "I Need A Drink" ain't that far removed from Wilko's solo stuff. He's got a nasty sound most always... Wait til ya hear the Felix Moment Power Trio and their take on the Sir Mick Green/Wilko vibe. Crawdaddy Simon wrote: >...And, coming from the old school, John Perry! *** The man and WAAAAAY underrated. and also... > Testify, brother Col! >Mick Green is god, and Wilko Johnson is his prophet. ** It's a shame we live accross the country from each other brother. ATB, COLIN ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 00:18:12 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: re Wilko Actually, Wilko wasn't the finest person ever to come from Dr. Feelgood. The honor goes to Lee Brilleaux who paid for the start up of one of the greatest record labels in history, Stiff. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 01:03:28 EST From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: Non-garage instrumentals In a message dated 1/6/02 12:56:55 PM Pacific Standard Time, data.panik@verizon.net writes: << "Any other non-garage indie-instrumental(original)surprises out there (beyond the usual suspects like Agent Orange and the Hoodo Gurus)?" >> Husker Du - Reoccuring Dreams Joe Meek - the "I Hear a New World" album I suppose soundtracks (like "Forbidden Planet") are out? - -DavidH ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 6 Jan 2002 22:24:17 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Lakritz Subject: My golden drum moment The drum fill that never fails to have me beatin' on my steering wheel, even when I'm doing 90 and in the middle of changing lanes, is that one at the end of the middle part in the Syndicate of Sound's "Little Girl" - THUMP THUMP THUMP THUMP!!! Tim __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 02:20:59 -0500 From: "JOE ABRAMS" Subject: Re:7 inchers 45s and 7 inch eps are probably my favorite records. I've been buying em ever since my first show. The last show I went to was Electric Frankenstein about a month ago and with seemingly hundreds of lps and cds up for sale at the show I dug through the 7 inch stack and pulled out a copy of their 1994 45 with Zacherle, and still bought it even though they made me pay $5 on account of it's out of print. Yeah, so they're not 2 clams a pop anymore but what the hell is? And someone already said, kids can still get an affordable turntable at any reputable electronics store. Mom just got my brother a Sony belt driven table for around a hundred at Best Buy. And since she still can't hook up her own VCR, I'd say it wasn't hard to find. 45s and 7" eps are always the best way for a young band to start out. You can just concentrate that way on perfecting your best couple of tunes instead of forcing half assed stuff that you and eveybody else is gonna hate in a coupla years or just have forgotten, just to fill up space on some cd. And with every forgettable no talent and their cousin's band putting out self produced cds (my cousin just did one of the lamest acoustic instro stuff you've ever heard including "Stairway...") how can you expect to stand out by following the easy more expedient trend? All this modern DIY crap's gonna end up in the trash long before it makes it to the thrift stores of tomorrow. Plus if you're on this list chances are very high that the people who like your band want records. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 02:10:23 -0600 From: Ron Thums Subject: Re: The HYPSTRZ - Hypstrization album Neither the Hypstrz LP nor the 7" EP are all that uncommon in Minneapolis of course, but I have seen the asking price for the foot-wide escalate to as high as $25-40, which seems a little high. The Batsons had started work on a CD reissue with tracks that didn't make it to the original Hypstrization LP, but as of midsummer that project appeared to have stalled out. Don't know what the odds are of it actually happening. Of course Billy and Ernie Batson still play up here frequently as the Mighty Mofos. Most recently -- two weeks ago at the Turf Club in St. Paul - -- they played an entire show of Who covers (some of them pretty surprising) that left the audience writhing like nerve gas victims on the dance floor. Those boys never disappoint. Ron Radio Rumpus Room Danny Banks wrote: >Does anybody know how hard this album is to find? >Possibly reissued? > >- -Danny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 09:48:59 +0100 From: Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl Subject: More catching up done Good day y'all, A grey and drizzling Sunday afternoon, just finished catching up on festive seasun's digests and lemme say this: it wasn't all fun! First: what a great sense of timing to start a skrewdriver/nazi-symbols thread on Christmas Day! Boohoo2U!!! I read that last Friday night and left the subject rest for a while, pissed off as I was then about the casual attitude of some of you towards using iron crosses and swastikas as personal "ornaments". And trust me, as big a Lemmy fan I am, I could genuinely hate him for using the cross! "Funny", "cool", "much-older-than-WWII" those symbols may be: the first association people get when seeing these symbols WILL forever be nazi-germany! And thus everything the symbols got to represent. Before you decorate yourself with this shit, THINK (it ain't illegal yet...) of the hurt you may cause to (older) people, who may have suffered heavily under the reign of these symbols! Although I was born 15 years after the events, my parents lived through and under the symbols and it has taken me years and years to convince my father of the fact, that not all Germans are/were bad people (he came close to dying during the last war-winter, due to lack of food) and he still can't stand a lot of older Germans. And I know how he feels, when seeing right-wingers marching under red-white-black flags, lushly "decorated" in those old and hated symbols. And, since the fall of communism, there's a lot of that going on in Europe! So, to those who own shit like that: BURN IT, BURY IT! It does NOT make you look "cool"! It's sickening!!! Then there was the (related???) black/white racism thread (also started over the Christmas days...). I'm not gonna say anything about that, just that I wondered what the hell was wrong with my Bomp-family... Most level-headed/funny mails over those few days by (no particular order): Lenny, Mike F. (I'm pretty white, so you can call me Jan..., everything else is only a part of me...) and Jeff Lemlich (great piece on uniform-wearing, me, I've always been either old-fashioned, or five years ahead of my time...). What I found under the Christmas tree: a birth year cd, a very cool "Rough Guide to Bhangra" cd, a Steps cd, which fortunately turned out to be made of chocolate, a calendar with photo's and funny subtitlings (photo of a little boy, holding a pretty big fish; sub: "his parents were too poor to buy him a puppy"), the Beatles' "Beatles bop - Hamburg days", Supersister's "Supersisterious" and Vardis' "The world's gone mad". Furthermore: loads and loads of good will and fun, obviously enhanced by good food and drinks of the alcoholic kind... Christmas in England: better watch out, it's addictive!!! And then, just after Christmas, a sudden burst of total tolerance hit the Bomp! What happened? Matches wet? Zippos out of fuel? Mentioning Thin Lizzy (huge fan!), the Cult (huge fan!), C&C Music Factory & Deee-Lite (both funny enough...), ZZ Top (huge fan!) did NOT cause extended flaming sessions, as I feared, seemed not even to cause raised eyebrows! The harshest words came from Michel, calling Thin Lizzy an average hard rock group..., then adding Yes (bold, very bold Mich!!!). Thank God James at least didn't want to invent David Lee Roth (huge, huge fan!), Axl Rose (huge fan!), Jackyl and Steven Tyler... But, before I knew what happened, Lenny managed to turn this into the BUMP-list, inserting KC and Prince! WOW!!! Len, how the heck did you manage THAT without a strong sedative? Am I too late to add Marillion, Genesis and Dire Straits? LOL!!! U2? Molly Hatchet? Outlaws? Southern Rock in general? Or.... collecting stamps? Knitting in strange places? Oh well... Some loose spottings to end it: Steve Coleman mentioned the Lost Memphis Recording Session (1968-69) ("The following came into the Garage over the weekend and may be of interest to some of you") and I wondered why nobody reacted. Cuz this sounds very exciting! Someone said: << I prefer Mariah Carrey, at least there is something to watch). >> Just make sure you turn the sound off in time!!! Scott reacted to that: >>There seems to be more and more Mariah to watch ... someone in her camp needs to suggest reducing the caloric intake, or opting for a slightly less revealing ensemble.<< I'd opt for the former... ;--) Kip stated: >>Bunny Wailer's BLACKHEART MAN LP is terrific.<< Jah says: Amen! Funniest thread came on the verge of the new year and involved DavidH and his portable... >>I HATE PORTABLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<< >>Last post until I get onto a "real" computer,<< I hope the neighbors couldn't hear me laughing... 't was pretty early in the morning... And that's about it for now, wonder how many new digests there will be waiting for me tomorrow.... L8er, Jan. ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2002 #15 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com