From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2002 #17 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Monday, January 7 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 017 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: Engelbert and Alpert David Coyle Mo' Guitar Solos David Coyle Re: Mo' Guitar Solos Jangellamf@aol.com Speaking of drummers. . . Anikka Lauritssen Re: Thrift Store Record King David Coyle Unreleased decade 2 Kip Shepherd Re: Drum Fills, Not Solos David Coyle Re: Speaking of drummers. . . Evan Davies Re: Thrift Store Record King David Re: 7" vinyl: yes or no? Jeff Kopp Re: Give The Bassist Some David Coyle No Good To Cry David Re: Ringo David Coyle Re: 7" vinyl: yes or no? David Re: Gene Simmons Autobiography David Coyle Re: Johnny Moped Cd Reissue "Jeroen Vedder" Re: wicked drum fills Euphorik6@aol.com Re: bomp-digest V2002 #16 Give the bass player some "Michel Fenderwoods" Rationals CDr David Coyle Re: bday( was Re: Fave guitar solos) Euphorik6@aol.com Re: No Good To Cry Jangellamf@aol.com Re: Speaking of drummers. . . Jangellamf@aol.com Re: 7" vinyl ? Euphorik6@aol.com Re: Wilko Johnson "Jeroen Vedder" Re: paul's drumming vs. ringo's Euphorik6@aol.com Re: Detroit Rock City "Lenny Smith" Re: Ringo "mykel" Re: bomp-digest V2002 #12 Mndbgr1@aol.com Re: favorite solos (Neil Young) brian marshall Re: Just Like Me Mndbgr1@aol.com Re: Rationals CDr TSanc43763@aol.com Re: Give The Bassist Some (the slide) Euphorik6@aol.com Re: seven-inch vinyl brian marshall Re: 7 Inchers Frank Uhle Re: 7 inchers "BB" Re: re Wilko "Tom" Re: No Good To Cry "Alex Piandes" Re: bomp-digest V2002 #13 Mndbgr1@aol.com Re: seven-inch records that play at 33 1/3 HOODOO3005@aol.com Give The Kazoo Player Some HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Paul not-Revered Mndbgr1@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:12:07 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Engelbert and Alpert Actually, I believe it was "Strawberry Fields Forever" that was kept from hitting #1 in the UK by "Please Release Me." I think I heard this on a documentary about the Sgt. Pepper album. Never have understood it, though. I do like Herb Alpert. The Tijuana Brass is happy music, just too happy for some people. Plus just about anything played by the TJB could be mistaken for a game show theme. Not that that's a bad thing, there are as many good Herb Alpert tunes as there are bad game show themes. I have seen a dealer selling a videotape of two rare Herb Alpert/TJB TV specials, and I'm still trying to identify a Herb Alpert tune that was covered on the "1967 Northland Battle Of The Bands" LP. I only have two TJB albums and it's not on those. I think it may be "Acapulco 1922" but I really am not sure. Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:20:46 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Mo' Guitar Solos Someone mentioned the solo on the Strawberry Alarm Clock's "Tomorrow." I'll throw in my vote also for the solo on "Birds In My Tree." Just beautiful. The solo on "Birdman Of Alkatrash" isn't too bad either, but I like it because it's the most "garage" sounding track the group did. Now, I can't BELIEVE nobody has mentioned the classic guitar solo from "Rock Around The Clock" by Bill Haley & The Comets. For one of the first bonafide rock & roll solos, that one's a doozy. Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:28:33 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: Mo' Guitar Solos In a message dated 01/07/2002 2:22:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, sugarshack_66@yahoo.com writes: > Now, I can't BELIEVE nobody has mentioned the classic > guitar solo from "Rock Around The Clock" by Bill Haley > & The Comets. For one of the first bonafide rock & > roll solos, that one's a doozy. > Or the solo from "Heartbreak Hotel", for that matter. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:32:42 -0800 (PST) From: Anikka Lauritssen Subject: Speaking of drummers. . . This ad has been appearing in The Boston Phoenix for a while now: Hysteria The Def Leppard Tribute Show sks drummer w/ solid meter. Must have prof. attitude. Willing to travel. Call Chris at .... I wonder how much of a tribute this is? Does the drummer need to only have one arm? Andrea - --------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:32:58 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Thrift Store Record King Yeah, I think Herb Alpert in general tops the list for common thrift store LPs. I'd say the top three LPs found in those bins are "Whipped Cream & Other Delights," "Going Places" and "S.R.O." I've also found "The Beat Of The Brass" in a lot of places. Oddly enough, I never see "The Lonely Bull," except on the back cover where "other Herb Alpert albums you'll enjoy" are shown. Other than Herb Alpert, the Christmas LPs put out by Firestone in the '50s/'60s are the most common from what I've seen... Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:38:12 -0600 From: Kip Shepherd Subject: Unreleased decade 2 >Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 09:36:40 -0800 >From: bryan >Subject: Re: favorite solos (Neil Young) > >> hey, maybe they will >> all come out on the "decade 2" > >Actually, Rhino/Warner Bros are working on this one right now. You may actually >see something by the end of 2002. > >Bryan > I'll have to warn my friend Jay, he has a running bet over when DECADE 2 is going to come out. He gets a steak dinner in every year that it is not released. This has been going on for over a decade! Kip ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:40:09 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Drum Fills, Not Solos There is no other version of "You Baby" by the Turtles that I've heard, that has the same kind of drum intro that their version features. Not the Vogues, not the Grass Roots, not even P.F. Sloan's "solo" demo. In fact, when I saw Flo & Eddie at the Ohio State Fair a few years ago, _their_ drummer didn't even duplicate it. Is it really that tricky? I don't know. I'm a drummer by no means... Another notable drum part is Ringo on the Beatles "What You're Doing" which I think is on "Beatles For Sale" or the "Help" album (UK versions). Certainly not one of the most conventional Beatles tracks either. Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:41:40 -0800 (PST) From: Evan Davies Subject: Re: Speaking of drummers. . . Doesn't Moulty live in the Boston area? - --- Anikka Lauritssen wrote: > This ad has been appearing in The Boston Phoenix for a while now: > > Hysteria The Def Leppard Tribute Show sks drummer w/ solid meter. Must > have prof. attitude. Willing to travel. Call Chris at .... > > I wonder how much of a tribute this is? Does the drummer need to only > have one arm? > > Andrea __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:45:46 -0600 From: David Subject: Re: Thrift Store Record King on 1/7/02 4:32 PM, David Coyle at sugarshack_66@yahoo.com wrote: > Other than Herb Alpert, the Christmas LPs put out by > Firestone in the '50s/'60s are the most common from > what I've seen... Oh hell yeah. With and without sleeves. ------------------------------ Date: 07 Jan 2002 16:46:12 +0000 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: 7" vinyl: yes or no? A radio show buddy of mine in Kansas City (Craig Rastorfer, host of KKFI's "Country Jesus & Hillbilly Blues" show) mentioned to me today, as a matter of fact, that he's going to be putting out a split 7" by a coupla local bands soon, and I recommended United Record Pressing (http://www.urpressing.com/) in Nashville, where I went to have The Honkeys 7" pressed a few years ago. Are they the best or does anyone have any other vinyl pressing plant recommendations? Thanks, kopper Trouble in River City Records http://www.garagepunk.com/frames/landlocked.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:47:07 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Give The Bassist Some For bass playing, I'll give a nod to the bassist from the Flamin' Groovies for his part on "The Slide" from the "Sneakers" 10-inch (reissued on Sundazed as the excellent "Supersneakers"). Both the record version and the live Matrix version have a pumping, throbbing bassline that must have kept the dancers moving... Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 16:54:14 -0600 From: David Subject: No Good To Cry Don't know if anybody cared in the first place, but regarding the Wildweeds "No Good To Cry": it's been covered by more artists than the Poppy Family. I just heard the Moving Sidewalks heavy, slow version. here are some more: http://www.geocities.com/qfan98/NGTC1.htm If you don't know the somg, look for it; I think most bomplisters would dig it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 14:57:05 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Ringo > If Ringo was so great, and I think he was, how come > Paulie was all over his drumming late in the game? Because by that time, Ringo was probably starting to get disenchanted with the whole Beatles experience, like everyone else except Paul seemed to be. He had even quit the band during the "White Album" sessions, and I don't think things were quite the same for him after that. Ringo was bored, George was bored, so by the time they were recording the "Get Back" album, Paul had lost his patience somewhat. Hence, his on-camera argument with George during the "Let It Be" movie. Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 17:02:02 -0600 From: David Subject: Re: 7" vinyl: yes or no? on 1/7/02 10:46 AM, Jeff Kopp at jeff.kopp@phoenixcreative.com wrote: > Are they the best or does anyone have any other vinyl pressing plant > recommendations? http://www.aardvarkmastering.com/ has a lot of info for the indie record presser. I think united is actually the bargain basement, which is not to say they are bad. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:04:25 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Gene Simmons Autobiography I saw and almost bought Gene's autobio but being preKISStory fan that I am I satisfied my curiosity by skimming through the pre-KISS chapters. I liked his fairly in-depth story of his early garage band days with the Long Island Sounds, not to mention the photos, but was put off by his preoccupation with the fringe benefits of rock and roll. The tone of his stories ran along the lines of "I was in a band when I was in high school. One night after a gig I met this girl and she was like 'So, Gene, I hear you do funny things with that long tongue of yours.' So I demonstrated. The first songs my band did were 'There's A Place' by the Beatles and 'Walk Right Back' by the Everly Brothers. Then I got laid that night." Not an actual quote, but that was the gist of it. Some of the actual musical history trivia I was able to separate from all that was pretty interesting though. The real great part was all those pictures of him as a little boy, especially dressed up in his little cowboy duds. The story of growing up in America was almost more interesting than what he did after he grew up. "I was no longer Chaim Witz, Israeli -- I was Gene Klein, American." Certainly an interesting perspective. It will be worth a read if it ever shows up in the library... Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:32:12 +0100 From: "Jeroen Vedder" Subject: Re: Johnny Moped Cd Reissue On 7 Jan 2002 07:37 wrote >>> I saw this Johnny Moped CD "Basically" at Bomp supposedly w/ all their studio recordings on it. It is 29 tracks and includes a live set, their album and their singles. Does anybody know if their demos which were originally released as a 7" on Chiswick are on this CD.<<< Nope, only (a small) part of it, that demo EP lasts about 20 minutes so there was obviously no room to include it on the CD. Check out the Ace Records site for details http://www.acerecords.co.uk/ The CD is well worth checkin' out anyway, 'cause the live stuff is exclusive to this release plus there's hilarious liner notes by Slimy Toad and Billy Childish. For what it's worth, here's the Moped discography from the files; 'Hard Lovin' Man'(live) on Live At The Roxy LP (Harvest) No One/Incendiary Device (Chiswick NS 15, 7") Basically, The Original Johnny Moped Tape (Chiswick PROMO 3, 7"). Cycledelic (Chiswick WIK 8, LP. issued with both regular and gatefold sleeves). Darling Let's Have Another Baby/Something Else, It Really Digs (Chiswick NS 27, 7"). Little Queenie/Hard Lovin' Man(live) (Chiswick NS 41, 7"). The Search For Xerxes (Deltic DELT LP 6, LP). Truth be told, there was a time in the mid 80s when I was obsessed with Johnny Moped, for whatever reason I figured he'd be the ideal producer for my then band !. I wrote to Ace Records for info on him and I got a reply that his mental state was not fit to be producing ANYTHING, and even if that wasn't the case, his mother in law would seriously disagree !. Of course I could take a hint and dropped the whole idea, until a couple of months later when I read a report of a Milkshakes show somewhere in Belgium that claimed that Johnny joined them for an encore of 'No One', singing from under the stage !. Naturally I wrote to the club where this had taken place and I got back a very apologistic reply statin' that "we are very sorry to inform you that it was not Johnny Moped who performed at our club, but in fact it was the English poet Sexton Ming who pretend to be Mr Moped", oh well. Funnily enough, a couple o' years later I got to meet Billy Childish and Sexton Ming at a Dutch art/poetry festival and Childish tried to convince me the Sexton was some kinda Johnny Moped re-incarnation.... Picking off me acne cause I haven't had a meal, Jeroen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:08:58 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: wicked drum fills In a message dated 1/6/02 2:37:18 PM, SUBPOPFAN1@aol.com writes: << i'll give ringo his due, the fill on anthology 2 in "strawberry fields" is INSANE! i don't care if he multitracked it or not, he blows my mind. >> i love how you can hear john on the fade going "all right, all right, calm down ringo...." rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 23:10:19 +0000 From: "Michel Fenderwoods" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #16 Give the bass player some Can I just mention Bruce Thomas from Elvis Costello's Attractions? A little McCartney-esque maybe, but he's f**king great on 'This Year's Model', 'Armed Forces', 'Get Happy' and some of the 'later' ones like 'IbMePdErRoIoAmL'. Favorite Bruce moment: the last chorus of "King Horse" before the fade. Mich€l F€nd€rwoods _________________________________________________________________ Meld je aan bij de grootste e-mailservice wereldwijd met MSN Hotmail: http://www.hotmail.com/nl ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:12:31 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Rationals CDr I was at a record show the other day and found a well-produced bootleg of early Rationals material, apparently from a fan-club LP released in 1966. Contains tracks like their versions of "I Need You," "Respect," "Leavin' Here," "Gloria" and "Smokestack Lightning," plus killer originals like "Look What You're Doing To Me Baby," "Feelin' Lost," "Gave My Love," a promotional song for Danby's(?) Clothing Store, and a half-folk/half-surf instrumental version of the old song "Wayfaring Stranger." This is not the Flash CD that contains their 1970 Crewe LP. It's all 1966-style R&B/beat. I'd have to say this is the American band that sounds more consistently like the "My Generation"-era Who than others I've heard. I also found a Dave Clark 5 single on Congress of two songs they recorded even before "Bits And Pieces" and "Glad All Over." A guess a lot of those early recordings showed up around that time. Scored a cheap copy of a CD containing tracks from Arthur Lyman's "Taboo" and "Yellow Bird" LPs. Went directly into my "easy-listening bedtime" stack... Great stuff, maybe a tad more mellow than even Martin Denny. Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:12:32 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: bday( was Re: Fave guitar solos) In a message dated 1/7/02 9:15:53 AM, Shake6677@aol.com writes: << happy birthday mindburger!!! >> can't remember if i have already chimed in on this one - i am still gettin caught up on all of the posts i have missed - even if i have, let me say again (maybe), happy bday to the doctor!! rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:13:51 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: No Good To Cry Have the song on an old "WRKO's Golden Oldies" thing, never knew anyone covered it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:18:10 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: Speaking of drummers. . . Moulty lives in Abington, is an herbalist. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:17:48 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: 7" vinyl ? In a message dated 1/7/02 9:32:28 AM, boldface@easynet.co.uk writes: << >So, do people on this list have an opinion as to whether it's at all >worthwhile for a band that is just starting out to do a 7" release? Do >people still buy them? >> i just got my first turntable in years & years last summer & have found that vinylwise, what i dig the most is the 45; LPs and EPs, IMO, benefit more from the CD format in that there is a lot more room for bonus tracks, video, etc etc....so for what it's worth, coming from a vinyl neophyte, i would say totally go for the 7-inch - whenever i go into a record store nowadays, it's the 45s i go to first, and i don't know....there's just something about 45s i really like, can't really explain it, they're just inherently cool. rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:48:48 +0100 From: "Jeroen Vedder" Subject: Re: Wilko Johnson On 7 Jan 2002 14:07Boldface >>>Absolutely disagree! I saw him play live at least half a dozen times in the last couple of years and he is still in the top ten guitarists of all time. If I sent you a CD of one of those live shows you'll hear just how amazing he is.<<< Hey Paul, haven't seen the man live since waaaaaay back when, but I had his recording carreer in mind when I made my claim. I still get an instant headache when I think of the Solid Senders (ouch!). But please go ahead and try to convince me I am wrong, I'll send you something equally worthwhile in return ;-) Jeroen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:23:05 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: paul's drumming vs. ringo's In a message dated 1/7/02 10:24:29 AM, PRzealot@aol.com writes: << 3. Not to open up a psychological can of worms... but if Ringo was so great and I THINK HE WAS, TOO!!! - Then why was Paulie all over his ass about drumming late in the game??? >> i think that probably had more to do with paul's ego than ringo's drumming - it's no secret that mccartney began to get a little dictatorial & control-fixated in the later years - one listen to his lame-ass drumming on "why don't we do it in the road" (or anything on "mccartney" or any of various wings tunes) is more than enough evidence for me that, as a drummer, mccartney just sucked ass....he certainly couldn't touch ringo with a hofner barge-pole on drums. there's nobody that can touch paul on bass, IMO, and he's not exactly a slouch on guitar or piano, either - but i think his drumming is flat-out lame! tuning up for take 74 of "maxwell's silver hammer" - rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:23:47 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: Detroit Rock City "Deena Canale" wrote: > I honestly don't remember if any Ramones tunes were used in it--at any rate, > none are listed on the soundtrack. I don't know what made it on to the soundtrack, but there definitely are at least a couple of Ramones tunes in the movie, along with stuff by T. Rex, The Sweet, The Runaways, and more! It's a very entertaining soundtrack (the film, anyway--as I say, I don't know what actually made it on to the soundtrack audio release), and a tremendously entertaining flick, too! Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:26:07 -0600 From: "mykel" Subject: Re: Ringo uh oh, there's another clue for you all.....dead ppl are notoriously very grumpy. ;) > > > If Ringo was so great, and I think he was, how come > > Paulie was all over his drumming late in the game? > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:28:47 EST From: Mndbgr1@aol.com Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #12 In a message dated 1/5/02 8:33:57 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > There are two lead guitars, but both of 'em are Drake Levin. Thanks for the correction. Don't know what I was thinkin'. And I'm really glad to hear those solos are by Drake. I'd heard about session guys on Raiders lps and was afraid some of my faves were gonna' be in question because of that. It wouldn't bother me on the later stuff. Dr. M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:29:26 -0800 (PST) From: brian marshall Subject: Re: favorite solos (Neil Young) I do know that Ice ran an article several years back stating that the tiles you mentioned would soon be out on CD. Well, they got held back and held back and.... ......they must have been cancelled at some point, because, well, you know the story: they're still not out yet. Hard to figure out sometimes, Brian NFTG - --- Euphorik6@aol.com wrote: > > > In a message dated 1/6/02 1:24:43 PM, > BaronBlood@mediaone.net writes: > > << Did they ever reissue American Stars and Bars? >> > > i don't believe so - i think this is another one > that got lost in the > shuffle....what is up with this, anyway?? it's hard > to believe that these > records have NEVER gotten a legitimate CD release > (that i know of) - "on the > beach," "american stars & bars," "hawks & doves" > (side one kicks ass, side > two sucks ass), "re-ac-tor" - that is just too > weird.....hey, maybe they will > all come out on the "decade 2" 349 disc/25 DVD/16 > videotape/1 ham & cheese > sandwich with double honey mustard/3 sweaters sewn > by neil's mom box set due > out next week, oh wait.....release of this has been > delayed till next month, > pending neil's reorganization of the track listing, > update to follow.... > > rob > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to > majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:31:42 EST From: Mndbgr1@aol.com Subject: Re: Just Like Me In a message dated 1/5/02 8:33:57 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > .....they recorded > two solos, intending to use the best one, but it sonded so good when they > listened to both together (especially the way they "meet up" in the last > two > bars) that they left it that way. > That's cool how they arrived at 2 solos. It really makes it with 2. Any more interesting recording info come to mind, Mike? Dr. M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:33:49 EST From: TSanc43763@aol.com Subject: Re: Rationals CDr One of my favorites RnB groovers of theirs is "Not like it is". Superb blue-eye styled soul. It's the flip of their frantic version "leavin' here". A Great group! Tony ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:37:50 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: Give The Bassist Some (the slide) In a message dated 1/7/02 5:53:07 PM, sugarshack_66@yahoo.com writes: << For bass playing, I'll give a nod to the bassist from the Flamin' Groovies for his part on "The Slide" from the "Sneakers" 10-inch (reissued on Sundazed as the excellent "Supersneakers"). >> yeah!! oh man, what a great song. roy loney says in the "supersneakers" liners that "the slide" was george alexander's "jack casady" number, and used to get everybody grooving in the aisles at bay area synanon meetings. apparently, synanon is/was sort of an AA-type of thing for drug addicts. a roomful of junkies doin the slide? THAT'S rock&roll. rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 15:38:30 -0800 (PST) From: brian marshall Subject: Re: seven-inch vinyl - --- HOODOO3005@aol.com wrote: > > > But they gotta improve the damn mastering (if not > the mix)! Some of these new > indie-label 45's sound like gravel. I don't think the indie CDs sound that much better. They're too polished and clean sounding. I don't mind a clean sound necessarily as long as it doesn't zap the energy out of the music, which I've heard happen more than once. Just my preference, but I'll take the gravel. Brian NFTG > > James > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to > majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:47:18 -0500 (EST) From: Frank Uhle Subject: Re: 7 Inchers Kopper said: <<<<>>>> Actually, I have the complete opposite opinion. Try to skip through a cd quickly while the previous song is 2/3s over to decide which track to play (often necessary if it is a comp. you've half-forgotten) and it's damn near impossible! Try to drop the needle on each cut on an LP side to see which tune is that gear-stripping blaster you couldn't remember the title of, and you can have it selected and cued up in less than 10 seconds. And I have no problem with 45s - since I play lots of them, I just leave the speed set and the "big hole" spindle on top, and I am all set. I suppose every 4th show or so I mess the speed up for one song, but I can live with that for the faster access (and other virtues) provided by vinyl. Speaking of which... (shameless plug alert) I will be on the air at 10pm EST this evening in Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA - on the web at www.wcbn.org (MP3 stream that works with dialup connections) and in the local area at 88.3 FM. Lots of 45s tonite, as well as as some cool obscurities from a tape I just got from a collector friend, Karl Ikola, such as "Luci Baines" by the American Four (pre-Love Arthur Lee), and "Super Fox" by the Hound Dog Clowns (a Kim Fowley prod. '69 obscurity), etc. Frank ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:48:34 -0500 From: "BB" Subject: Re: 7 inchers <<<"Hentch-Forth" on Italy Records comes to mind). God, if I had a dime for every time I've done that! The worst is when 7"s are recorded at 33rpm (or when the speed can't be found on 'em anywhere). >>> It's even worse when you can't tell what the right speed is after playing both sides at both 33 and 45. Several times. (Yes, this has happened to me, tho' it was years ago and I can't recall what record it was.) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:46:55 -0500 From: "Tom" Subject: Re: re Wilko > > From: "Tom" > > >You're right. I don't know Wilko Johnson. If he were a buddy of mine and he > >bought me a beer every weekend, then I might not think Dr. Dupree sucks. > > *** I mean not "know" in the sense that you may not be as much of a fan. Still, even if you ain't a hardcore fan it I still can't imagine you mean it sucks in the way that Foreigner does. :o) > No, sucks in a "there's better stuff I could be listening to" way, rather than a "Make it stop, Make it stop" way > The other solo things I've heard by him range from tolerable to good, but I > can't stand the "sorta Reggae" feel on Dr. Dupree. > > *** Interesting. If reggae ain't comin' outta R&B and a legit groove then I don't know what is. Does this mean the Clash, or anybody else chuckin' in a guitar "chink" now and again is bad? Or just that that ain't your bag? Not my bag at all. I don't like it when Wilko Johnson does it, I don't like it when the Clash do it, I don't like it when John and Yoko do it. Well, ok. I do like "Kiss Kiss Kiss" but every time I listen to it, I think how much better it would have been without the reggae feel. I'm not even crazy about the "authentic" stuff. There are a few things I can appreciate, but nothing I'd put on for myself. In fact, the only Marley I really enjoyed was that early stuff that sounded like the Impressions. > Sure some guy pullin the "rasta" thing is pushin the limits or Stink doin his "dee doo doo doo" blah blah... > I can see a whole lot of "bad" bands spoilin' that thing but for my dough Wilko and Lew, or even just Lew Lewis himself doing "Caravan Man" is one of the great moments in Brit R&B sport. > > > I did like him with Dr. Feegood, and he played some nice stuff on Mick > Farren's album, but if Dr. Dupreee is one of his best tracks, then I'll pass > on the solo catalog. > > *** Don't let it pass you buy as the Northerners say. Farren's "I Need A Drink" ain't that far removed from Wilko's solo stuff. He's got a nasty sound most always... > Wait til ya hear the Felix Moment Power Trio and their take on the Sir Mick Green/Wilko vibe. > Ok, any Wilko recommendations? If it sounds like "I Need A Drink," I might have to rethink my position. > Crawdaddy Simon wrote: > > >...And, coming from the old school, John Perry! > > *** The man and WAAAAAY underrated. > That is a hell of a solo. Has anyone heard the Gerg Kihn Band's cover of "Another Girl, Another Planet?" I'm wondering what Joe Satriani did to it. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:56:35 -0000 From: "Alex Piandes" Subject: Re: No Good To Cry John Fred & The Playboy Band covered it on "Agnes English" Alex C 'n' S __________________________________________________ Alex Piandes Coffee 'n' Smokes WMFO (91.5fm) Medford, MA "Featuring new & vintage garage/punk, surf, psychedelic, rockabilly, pop obscurities,...and a little bit o' greasy R & B" TUNE IN LIVE VIA WINAMP MP3 THROUGH THE NEW COFFEE 'N' SMOKES (http://coffeensmokes.freeservers.com) OR THE WMFO (www.wmfo.org) WEBSITES!!! Coffee 'n' Smokes airs every Saturday morning from 6-9am (EST) and... 3-6am (U.S.Pacific), 4-7am (U.S.Mountain), 5-8am (U.S.Central), 11am-2pm (GMT), Noon-3pm (Paris/Rome/Amsterdam), 1-4pm (Athens), 8-11pm (Tokyo), 9pm-Midnight (Sydney/Melbourne) and 10pm-1am Sunday (Auckland) - ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" To: Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 10:54 PM Subject: No Good To Cry > > Don't know if anybody cared in the first place, but regarding the Wildweeds > "No Good To Cry": it's been covered by more artists than the Poppy Family. I > just heard the Moving Sidewalks heavy, slow version. here are some more: > http://www.geocities.com/qfan98/NGTC1.htm > If you don't know the somg, look for it; I think most bomplisters would dig > it. > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 18:54:12 EST From: Mndbgr1@aol.com Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #13 In a message dated 1/6/02 4:13:19 AM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > . Are the single and album versions > totally different recordings, or just different mixes of the same recording? > > The only differences I noticed were the longer sustained note on the guitar and the completely different solo on keyboards, I think the gtr solo is the same but just faded much earlier on the single version. As far as I know, they are the same basic backing tracks, otherwise. Get yourself a copy of the 45 and compare with your cd (which I assume has the lp take). Anybody wanna' add other differences, shoot... Dr. M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:03:17 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: seven-inch records that play at 33 1/3 In a message dated 1/7/02 4:06:57 PM Central Standard Time, Kopper was talking about vinyl sizes & speeds: << The worst is when 7"s are recorded at 33rpm (or when the speed can't be found on 'em anywhere). When I see a 7" I immediately think 45. >> It doesn't bother me unless its an instrumental. You can tell when a voice is on the wrong speed, but instruments aren't as obvious. I have this Man Or Astroman 7" EP (instrumental) where I had to write down the speed on the sleeve for that reason (I too had a radio show at the time). James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:08:51 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Give The Kazoo Player Some "Johnny Get Angry" by Joanie Sommers. This is a dreadful teen idol pop song from the early sixties, but you just gotta admire the ingenuity of whoever it was who decided to put a damn KAZOO in the middle of this plush, million-dollar production, taking the piss out of the whole thing! A noodling piano, a lush string section, drums played with BRUSHES instead of sticks, Joanie's own teenagey voice, and then out of nowhere, some refugee from a jug band whips his kazoo out of his shirt-tail pocket! Also: electric saxophones. I'm sure Rare Earth used to use 'em. Jazzman Eddie Harris made 'em into an art form. I remember seeing the Climax Blues Band on IN CONCERT (the 70's teevee show) when I was a kid, and I think their sax player was plugged in too. Damn if it didn't sound like a high-tech kazoo. JP ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:08:22 EST From: Mndbgr1@aol.com Subject: Re: Paul not-Revered In a message dated 1/6/02 8:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > ......(I was totally crushed to find out that > that neat, loopy little break in "In My Community" was not Paul!) and > following that LP, he is literally not on any of the records AT ALL, > period. > Weird, eh? > > Mike F. > That sounds about right with what I had heard before. Though I didn't know the details of which songs/lps he was on. I did remember reading in liner notes or somewhere that he would tell the writers, "Don't make the organ parts to hard"...or something along those lines. I had also gotten the impression that his lack of participation was more from lack of interest in the music and that he liked it much more back when they were an r+b act. I can understand that. But I like both periods-early and mid. Still don't care much for later stuff. It just doesn't hold a candle to the eralier stuff. Though there are a couple cuts here and there that are ok. Dr. M. ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2002 #17 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com