From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2002 #18 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Tuesday, January 8 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 018 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: 7" superiority Mndbgr1@aol.com Re: More catching up done "Jeroen Vedder" Re: Wake Up, It's Tomorrow Mndbgr1@aol.com Re: paul's drumming vs. ringo's "Tom" Re: favorite solos (Neil Young) "Kip Shepherd" Cow Bell Solos "McGowan, Rob (SD-EX)" Give The Theremin Player Some "Mark Ertmer" Re: Cow Bell Solos "Kip Shepherd" Re: Cow Bell Solos Jangellamf@aol.com Give The Kazoo Player Some "Douglas E. Webber" RE: Give The Kazoo Player Some "Lindholm, Jeffrey" turd plop solos "mykel" Solarflares/ Prisoners West Coast Tour...Help! "Chris Owen" Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some "Tom" re: non-garage instrumentals colorcoat@home.com re: Wilko, Reggae, Perry... "mohair" re: Turtles on the BBC colorcoat@home.com Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some "mykel" Re: No Good To Cry "Jeff Lemlich" Re: 7 inchers "Jeff Lemlich" Solos Flushed With Pride [was Re: turd plop solos] "Lenny Smith" Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some "Jeff Lemlich" Raiders Recording Ephemera (was: Just Like Me) Sknoof@aol.com Re: 7 inchers "mykel" Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some "Tom" Give The Electric Kazoo Player Some Fuzzboxes ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe lets get some reverb on that cowbell ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Re: 7 Inchers Jeff Kopp Re: 7 inchers Jeff Kopp Did I say that??? HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some Dj45rpm@aol.com Re: give the bassist some SSamSS@aol.com Re: Gene Simmons/Long Island Sound(s) colorcoat@home.com Re: Cow Bell Solos "Joey Beretta" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:10:07 EST From: Mndbgr1@aol.com Subject: Re: 7" superiority In a message dated 1/6/02 8:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > there's just > > something about a 7" single as opposed to a demo CD. A > > 7" is just more special to me. > > > > Absolutely agreed. It's the first thing our band even considered putting > out > officially. > And while your at it, you might even consider an ANALOG recording! Dr. M. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 00:38:56 +0100 From: "Jeroen Vedder" Subject: Re: More catching up done On 7 Jan 2002 09:48 Jan.Roerhorst@prismant.nl wrote: A LOT !. Including: >>>skrewdriver/nazi-symbols thread BURN IT, BURY IT! It does NOT make you look "cool"! It's sickening!!! And then, just after Christmas, a sudden burst of total tolerance hit the Bomp! What happened? Matches wet? Zippos out of fuel? Mentioning Axl Rose (huge fan!)<<< Obviously Mr Rose is tolerance pesonified, where would the world be without him.....?. Jeroen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:13:25 EST From: Mndbgr1@aol.com Subject: Re: Wake Up, It's Tomorrow In a message dated 1/6/02 8:31:14 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > By the way, that entire (second) album is just AMAZING. Only about half the > songs are on any of those anthologies that are floating around. There's a > Japanese CD reissue available, if you happen to be made of $$. > > Yup, Good to the last drop! Dr. M. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:10:26 -0500 From: "Tom" Subject: Re: paul's drumming vs. ringo's > > In a message dated 1/7/02 10:24:29 AM, PRzealot@aol.com writes: > > << 3. Not to open up a psychological can of worms... but if Ringo was so > great > and I THINK HE WAS, TOO!!! - Then why was Paulie all over his ass about > drumming late in the game??? >> > > i think that probably had more to do with paul's ego than ringo's > drumming - it's no secret that mccartney began to get a little dictatorial & > control-fixated in the later years - one listen to his lame-ass drumming on > "why don't we do it in the road" That was Ringo. Paul was on Back in the USSR, Dear Prudence (though I've heard it speculated that Ringo did some overdubs) and The Ballad of John and Yoko. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:49:53 -0600 From: "Kip Shepherd" Subject: Re: favorite solos (Neil Young) >From: brian marshall > >I do know that Ice ran an article several years back >stating that the tiles you mentioned would soon be out >on CD. Well, they got held back and held back and.... >......they must have been cancelled at some point, >because, well, you know the story: they're still not >out yet. > >Hard to figure out sometimes, > >Brian >NFTG > Here's what hyperrust.org has to say about the missing CD's: The Missing 6 You may have heard of the proverbial Missing 6. They are the only albums from Neil's catalog that have NEVER been released on CD. In date order: Journey Through The Past Time Fades Away On The Beach American Stars'n'Bars (footnote) Hawks & Doves Re-ac-tor (Note that a soundtrack album for the movie Where The Buffalo Roam, for which Neil produced the soundtrack, has also never been released on CD -- but this is not really part of Neil's catalog.) Any CD from anywhere in the world for these seven albums is NOT a legitimate release. The demand for these albums on CD have lead to a number of pirated versions, almost all of which were recorded from LPs. Some looked legitimate enough to actually be stocked as "imports" by reputable CD stores (including Tower Records). But be warned that these are in fact prirated recordings, not official releases. Note that the Missing 6 albums were indeed actually remastered during the 90s using HDCD technology. Neil had been waiting for such a technological advancement before remastering them, and at the time the HDCD technology looked to be sufficient to meet his desires. Some of the HDCD remastered versions of the 6 had been scheduled for release several times during the 90s, but subsequently removed from the schedule each time. At one point promotional pressings for one or two of the Missing 6 were actually produced and radio spots hyping the upcoming release were distributed and recalled. There was a point where Neil was quoted as saying that he was holding the Missing 6 "hostage" for some reason or another. But he eventually spelled out his specific objections to releasing them on CD in an interview with someone at SFX: "The record companies have a huge problem right now. They have the DVD audio standard, and the quality is unbelievably better than the CD. It approaches what you expected from digital in the first place. It's a wonderful standard, where the artist has control and programs the DVD so that when you put it in, it configures your system to play it back optimum for what's on the disc. The artist decides and the format keeps changing as the artist programmed it. So you get to take advantage of all the digital information that the DVD has." "So what happened? We got it all together and somebody figured out how to crack it. So now they could be duplicated and the record companies wouldn't make any money off it. But that already happened with the CD. What's the big deal? Why not put out the quality? If people are gonna crack it and send it around on Napster or MP3, who cares?" "So the answer to the question is, I really didn't see these albums on CD because CDs don't sound very good. I like the original analog masters and I didn't want people to have bad-sounding CDs to listen to for the rest of time. I want to wait until the things are ready to be dumped into a format that I can understand and is relative to the original format." Of course that begs the question of why all the REST of his albums are out on CD (including the new albums he's released even after having withdrawn the remastered Missing 6). But regardless, it'll be great to hear the Missing 6 on DVD-audio when it does eventually hit the street... Footnote: American Stars'n'Bars is available commercially on cassette. None of the other albums are currently available commercially in any format. You'll have to check out the used music stores and look for the LPs or cassettes. http://hyperrust.org/General/Missing6.html ************** So that's it. Neil doesn't want these records out because he cares about you, the consumer. IMHO, Journey Through The Past isn't worth re-issuing as a CD. Most of the music is available elswhere. The stuff that's only on Journey... (live Buffalo Springfield, a recording session for "Words") would be better if viewed on a DVD. So when's the DVD gonna come out? Kip _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:50:37 -0500 From: "McGowan, Rob (SD-EX)" Subject: Cow Bell Solos Well, let's not forget the cow bell solo. Of course, the honors go to Eric Bloom on "Don't fear the Reaper." - - (more cow bell, we need more cow bell) rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:54:16 -0600 From: "Mark Ertmer" Subject: Give The Theremin Player Some Man or Astroman has some wild theremin playing in some of their songs. I saw 'em a year ago, and they opened with "Spectrograph Reading of the Varying Phantom Frequencies of Chronic, Incurable Tinnitus", and Coco the Electronic Monkey Wizard lit the theremin on fire and went crazy! Unfortunately, the band is now down to a three piece, making such antics impossible. Still a killer live act, though... Mark ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 18:57:27 -0600 From: "Kip Shepherd" Subject: Re: Cow Bell Solos >From: "McGowan, Rob (SD-EX)" > >Well, let's not forget the cow bell solo. > >Of course, the honors go to Eric Bloom on "Don't fear the Reaper." What about "Honky Tonk Women"? That's not really a solo, though. Kip _________________________________________________________________ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:07:31 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: Cow Bell Solos "Private World"--New York Dolls ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:15:43 -0500 From: "Douglas E. Webber" Subject: Give The Kazoo Player Some Saw the Climax Blues Band in the 70's. I think it was Henry Gross, Climax Blues Band and Fleetwood Mac. Hey, we were teenagers and it was a chance to go out on a school night! I think we saw every band who played Philadelphia that year :) Given the line-up of this particular show you can imagine how easy it was to walk up to the Tower Theatre box office and purchase front row seats, a move that had my ears ringing for days. Definitely a plugged in sax and yes, sounded like the loudest goddam kazoo you've ever heard. Thanks( I think) for the memory! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:10:18 -0500 From: "Lindholm, Jeffrey" Subject: RE: Give The Kazoo Player Some Hey, what's an electric sax? Not one of these grey plastic things with little plastic keys and made with the shape of a bell but it's all closed in like a kid's toy? Not one of those? I ask because I just got "Cookbook" by George Benson because I've just got a bari sax and wanted to hear Ronnie Cuber play bari with Benson. It's a cookin' soul jazz thing, mostly--late '60s. But King Curtis plays on a couple songs and it say "electric sax" and I thought they just meant that he was playing his sax, y'know, rockin! But it's a real thing? King Curtis wouldn't play a lame plastic toy sax, would he, even if someone paid him? Jeff Lindholm jrl6b@virginia.edu > -----Original Message----- > From: HOODOO3005@aol.com [SMTP:HOODOO3005@aol.com] > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:09 PM > To: bomp@screamer.xnet2.com > Subject: Give The Kazoo Player Some > > > "Johnny Get Angry" by Joanie Sommers. This is a dreadful teen idol pop > song > from the early sixties, but you just gotta admire the ingenuity of whoever > it > was who decided to put a damn KAZOO in the middle of this plush, > million-dollar production, taking the piss out of the whole thing! A > noodling > piano, a lush string section, drums played with BRUSHES instead of sticks, > > Joanie's own teenagey voice, and then out of nowhere, some refugee from a > jug > band whips his kazoo out of his shirt-tail pocket! > > Also: electric saxophones. I'm sure Rare Earth used to use 'em. Jazzman > Eddie > Harris made 'em into an art form. I remember seeing the Climax Blues Band > on > IN CONCERT (the 70's teevee show) when I was a kid, and I think their sax > player was plugged in too. Damn if it didn't sound like a high-tech kazoo. > > JP > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:39:57 -0600 From: "mykel" Subject: turd plop solos > >Well, let's not forget the cow bell solo. you'll all be happy to know...had to have my deletin' finger amputated earlier this afternoon (from overuse??). good thing i can delete from both sides of the keyboard (a switch deleter?), huh? ;) hope we get the skin flute solos covered before i'm down to stubs on both hands. ahhh, onto the music.....the monroes debut 7" fell into my lap earlier this afternoon...any frontier trust fans on the list? anyway, this is gary dean's new combo and while it's not quite as hot as i expected...still the best local release of THIS year. haha regarding 7" records in general, fuggit about it...i'm much too lazy to be ambling across the room every 3 minutes. hell, used to prefer vinyl but now that i've got the 200 disc changer, i can load up at the beginning of the day (early afternoon, that is) and not have to move again til next month (aside from fridge and head breaks). i'm a convert, baby!! later mykel (with the digits in his player instead of on his paws) np: ubu dance party > > > > > >From: "McGowan, Rob (SD-EX)" > > > > > >Of course, the honors go to Eric Bloom on "Don't fear the Reaper." > > What about "Honky Tonk Women"? That's not really a solo, though. > > Kip > > _________________________________________________________________ > Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. > http://www.hotmail.com > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 17:42:31 -0800 From: "Chris Owen" Subject: Solarflares/ Prisoners West Coast Tour...Help! Does anyone know of a good booking agent on the West Coast who would be interested in booking a tour for The Solarflares this summer? The Solarflares are the current band from Allan Crockford and Graham Day, the nucleus of The Prisoners, The Prime Movers and Planet. I posted a drooling fan letter on a European website, expecting nothing, but was contacted by the band within hours and have become kinda responsible for getting a tour underway. In case you don't know, the Prisoners were one of the greatest groups of the 80's, part of the Medway scene in England with the Milkshakes, Stingrays, etc. They put out some amazing records ("The Last Four Fathers" is probably in my all-time top 5) which are due to be released by Big Beat (concurrently with the new Solarflares album) this year. The tour will support the release of these records, plus it is the first time the band has toured America. Selling points: 1) James Taylor of the James Taylor Quartet was the organ player for the Prisoners. 2) Graham Day (guit/vox) was the drummer for Thee Mighty Caesars 3) Solarflares drummer is Wolf Howard, he of many great bands, currently also in The Wildebeasts There are more, but you probably already know. Bookers seem to be really busy these days, cuz the two usually reliable ones I've spoken to here in San Francisco can't do it. IS there anybody out there who would either book this English band's West Coast tour, or do you know of anybody that would do it (and do it well)? Please email we directly at chriso@sfbg.com if possible. Thanks Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:41:11 -0500 From: "Tom" Subject: Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some > > > Hey, what's an electric sax? Not one of these grey plastic things with > little plastic keys and made with the shape of a bell but it's all closed in > like a kid's toy? Not one of those? I ask because I just got "Cookbook" by > George Benson because I've just got a bari sax and wanted to hear Ronnie > Cuber play bari with Benson. It's a cookin' soul jazz thing, mostly--late > '60s. But King Curtis plays on a couple songs and it say "electric sax" and > I thought they just meant that he was playing his sax, y'know, rockin! But > it's a real thing? King Curtis wouldn't play a lame plastic toy sax, would > he, even if someone paid him? > Ornette did. Lol Coxhill played electric sax through a fuzztone, for the extra kazoo sound. And in that vein, time for our monthly mention of The Blues Project. Andy Kulburg played electric flute though a bunch of effects. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:00:38 -0700 From: colorcoat@home.com Subject: re: non-garage instrumentals James wrote: "First off, I didn't know there were many GARAGE instrumentals (unless you're referring to surf or Link Wray or something), apart from Davie Allan, or filler cuts from ? & the Mysterians or similar acts...enuff of the splitting hairs, here's some instrumentals I dig that definitely AREN'T garage or related (or original, in some cases)." I was just trying to open up the thread to something beyond quick mentions of the one instrumental the Woggles usually include per album, the timeless "Theme from the Vindicators" by the Fleshstones (and also covered by the Woggles with wonderful results), frat/twist/spy-fi instrumentals, garage bands giving up the vocals in tribute to the Ventures and the Shadows, or the Bomboras' late phase when they were more garage/less surf. At the same time, I didn't want to be too broad and cover previously traveled trails (e.g., favorite soundtracks) of the Bomp list or an instrumental style with its own dedicated list (i.e., Cowabunga). By the (long) way out, Arf Arf's "Everything You Always Wanted To Know About '60s Mind Expansive Punkadelic Garage Rock Instrumentals But Were Afraid to Ask" is a strong and varied round-up of "garage" instrumentals. The "Buzz, Buzz, Buzz" garage-psych comps are on the top of my 2002 get-list. (I'm thinking about Mike F's "Ugly Things" #19 sidetracking reviews of those discs as I write this.) I have also been in the mood for some "moody surf" instrumentals and thought about trying out one of the "Surfer's Mood" comps. Any recommendations on which volume to begin with and where to find these harder to find vinyl-only releases? Between Stack O Tracks, Ted who always thought Midnight Oil could be listenable in the '80s...sans vocals. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:52:16 -0600 From: "mohair" Subject: re: Wilko, Reggae, Perry... One reason I seldom post to the Bomp list is coz I get the digest. Is there anywhere to view online? Most frustrating to respond to but I can't handle the volume. But... further... Twas written: From: "Jeroen Vedder" in response to PJ's post, which I have yet to see anywhere in the digest? Am I dumb or what the fuck? Anyway... On 7 Jan 2002 14:07Boldface >>>Absolutely disagree! I saw him play live at least half a dozen times in the last couple of years and he is still in the top ten guitarists of all time. ...>>>> So then Jereon said: Hey Paul, haven't seen the man live since waaaaaay back when, but I had his recording carreer in mind when I made my claim. I still get an instant headache when I think of the Solid Senders (ouch!). But please go ahead and try to convince me I am wrong, I'll send you something equally worthwhile in return ;-) **** To which I reply, you are right for you but wrong for me. Solid Senders were killer IMO. For a guy w Chiswick for his email addy I'm surprised the inclusion of Stevie Lewins didn't endear you more. Or have I got this wrong way round? If I do sorry. But then in one of your newsletters you implied that Antonia's writing in regards to her Thunder's book was also crap? Am I wrong? If so, then again, sorry. Too... From: "Tom" Subject: Re: re Wilko In regards to the reggae r&b... >I'm not even crazy about the "authentic" stuff. There are a few things I can appreciate, but nothing I'd put on for myself. In fact, the only Marley I really enjoyed was that early stuff that sounded like the Impressions.>>> *** Wow, this is a real shame. So much great stuff. Have you heard Jackie Mittoo? Slim Smith? I'm not a fan of things like calypso or soca for the most part but reggae, ska, rocksteady and dub (at least the 60s and 70s variety) is so soulful and so much a part of punk, rock'n'roll, soul and the scene that I'm surprised that you don't really care for it. Sure the tourist shit and hippy hijacking of it is awful but then rock'n'roll is full of that as well. > Ok, any Wilko recommendations? If it sounds like "I Need A Drink," I might have to rethink my position. *** My recommendations would include virtually anything Wilko plays on so maybe I ain't the best guy to ask! ;o) Did you know he played on Pearl Harbour's first LP? Or the Blockheads' Laughter? My alltime favorite stuff? It might very well be the EP w Lew Lewis or Live In London. >That is a hell of a solo. Has anyone heard the Gerg Kihn Band's cover of "Another Girl, Another Planet?" I'm wondering what Joe Satriani did to it. *** FUCKING JOE SATRIANI plays on Greg Kihn's version? Say it ain't so. Well that's spoiled my day. It must be shite. CB ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 19:06:23 -0700 From: colorcoat@home.com Subject: re: Turtles on the BBC A couple of months ago, John Trembly inquired about the Turtles live on the BBC back in the mid-sixties. Below is the brief bit of info I found along the Turtles web site: "Three songs were cut live for the English BBC's "Saturday Club," and a casual listen reveals those performances to be nearly indistinguishable from the hit versions." http://theturtles.com/turtles.html Ted ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:54:40 -0600 From: "mykel" Subject: Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some > > '60s. But King Curtis plays on a couple songs and it say "electric sax" > > > > Ornette did. > wait a sec, just cuz a sax is plastic doesn't make it electric...just makes it cheap. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:02:36 -0500 From: "Jeff Lemlich" Subject: Re: No Good To Cry <> Tobi Legend's version on Mala has soul to spare! Same lady who recorded as Tobi Lark on Topper out of Detroit. Check out the emotional flip, "Heartbreaker", too. Nice. Talk to y'all in a week or so. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:09:07 -0500 From: "Jeff Lemlich" Subject: Re: 7 inchers Blair wrote: << It's even worse when you can't tell what the right speed is after playing both sides at both 33 and 45. Several times. (Yes, this has happened to me, tho' it was years ago and I can't recall what record it was.)>> I have a 7" by the Neckbones that is either fast punk with female vocals, or sludgy crap with male vocals. It all depends if it's supposed to be played at 45 or 33. Damn if I know. Same with the Limebirds. Even worse are records and CDs that have no titles or artists listed on the labels. If you lose the picture sleeve/jewel case, good luck figuring out what you're listening to! In 20 years a new group of Bompers will be trying to figure out what the heck folks were thinking in the 90s. Jeff Lemlich http://www.limestonerecords.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:09:56 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Solos Flushed With Pride [was Re: turd plop solos] "mykel" wrote: > turd plop solos ...which brings to mind some of the more memorable solos on the noble crapper. Who can forget the toilet flush at the end of Steppenwolf's classic, "Don't Step On the Grass, Sam," or the delicate strains of Yoko Ono's classic "Toilet Piece"? Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:12:28 -0500 From: "Jeff Lemlich" Subject: Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some JP wrote: <<"Johnny Get Angry" by Joanie Sommers. This is a dreadful teen idol pop song from the early sixties, but you just gotta admire the ingenuity of whoever it was who decided to put a damn KAZOO in the middle of this plush, million-dollar production, taking the piss out of the whole thing! A noodling piano, a lush string section, drums played with BRUSHES instead of sticks, Joanie's own teenagey voice, and then out of nowhere, some refugee from a jug band whips his kazoo out of his shirt-tail pocket! >> And don't forget the kazoo in the great rave-up section of "Whatcha Gonna Do About It" by Evil! Gotta run. Talk to y'all probably Sunday or Monday. Jeff Lemlich ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:12:12 EST From: Sknoof@aol.com Subject: Raiders Recording Ephemera (was: Just Like Me) >From the BurgerMind: << That's cool how they arrived at 2 solos. It really makes it with 2. Any more interesting recording info come to mind, Mike? >> The MOST interesting thing, to us, was the unknown fact that there's a keyboard bass doubling the bass guitar on most of the songs during "The Melcher Years." That's why those records sound so fat. At the live shows last fall, Dave Amels played a one-handed "Bass-ette" along with Peter's bass. His amp was right behind me and I think my ass is still buzzing. Which is not such a great thing in church. Mike F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 20:20:03 -0600 From: "mykel" Subject: Re: 7 inchers > It's even worse when you can't tell what the right speed is after > playing both sides at both 33 and 45. Several times. (Yes, this has > happened to me, tho' it was years ago and I can't recall what record it > was.) > not a 7 inch but i did once have a 12 inch by ike yard that i never could figure out whether should be played at 33 or 45 (tried it at 78 too).....fortunately, it sounded like shit on every speed, so it's history now. sha la la la la la later np: manfred mann "sha la la" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:52:48 -0500 From: "Tom" Subject: Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some > > > > '60s. But King Curtis plays on a couple songs and it say "electric sax" > > > > > > > > Ornette did. > > > > wait a sec, just cuz a sax is plastic doesn't make it electric...just makes > it cheap. ;) > That's what I meant. Ornette played a plastic sax once. Now that I think about it, Charlie Parker played one on Jazz at Massey Hall. Got a pretty nice sound out of it too. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:08:09 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: Give The Electric Kazoo Player Some Fuzzboxes Someone wrote: > But King Curtis plays on a couple songs and it say > "electric sax" and I thought they just meant that he was playing > his sax, y'know, rockin! But it's a real thing? King Curtis > wouldn't play a lame plastic toy sax, would he, even if someone > paid him? And then someone responded: > Ornette did. These are not toy saxes, but made of a heavier plastic. The mouthpiece would be the same as a regular brass sax. Ornette did use one on his first record, but not exclusively. Re: electric saxes, Coltrane had been given a prototype to try, but never performed or recorded with it. And one of those people also wrote: > Lol Coxhill played electric sax through a fuzztone, for the extra > kazoo sound. Popular with lite jazz artists is the EWI, the Electronic Wind Instrument. Just blow and play, and let the synthesizer make you sound like anything you want. And then he went on to write: > And in that vein, time for our monthly mention of The Blues > Project. Andy Kulburg played electric flute though a bunch of > effects. Have you ever heard Borbetomagus? Two sax players and an electric guitarist. The saxes are mic'd, run thru a line of pedal effects with and all three guys plugged into one Sunn amp with four 15" speakers. I've experienced it live. Ambience for the industrial age. - --ed ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 19:11:36 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: lets get some reverb on that cowbell Some Bompers were writing: > Well, let's not forget the cow bell solo. > the honors go to Eric Bloom on "Don't fear the Reaper." > What about "Honky Tonk Women"? That's not really a solo, though. My fave cowbell part is the intro to Mississippi Queen. - --ed ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:24:16 -0600 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: 7 Inchers on 1/7/02, Frank Uhle wrote: > Actually, I have the complete opposite opinion. Try to skip through a cd > quickly while the previous song is 2/3s over to decide which track to play > (often necessary if it is a comp. you've half-forgotten) and it's damn > near impossible! Try to drop the needle on each cut on an LP side to see > which tune is that gear-stripping blaster you couldn't remember the title > of, and you can have it selected and cued up in less than 10 seconds. That's a good point, and makes sense if ya don't prepare your show's playlist in advance. I used to do what you do, but then realized it was much easier to sit down a couple hours before heading to the station and type up the playlist (I use an Excel spreadsheet), picking songs from the records & CDs as I go along, then print it out and take it with me, along with all the music. Now, obviously this isn't possible if you're playing records or CDs from the station's collection, but I bring with me 95% of the stuff I play on my show, so I rarely find myself having to skip through the tracks on a CD unless it's to find one of a certain length. Usually I know exactly what track to advance the CD to and after I do that it's ready to go. I don't even have to hit the "pause" button. kopper The Wayback Machine http://www.garagepunk.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:34:34 -0600 From: Jeff Kopp Subject: Re: 7 inchers on 1/7/02, "BB" wrote: > It's even worse when you can't tell what the right speed is after > playing both sides at both 33 and 45. Several times. (Yes, this has > happened to me, tho' it was years ago and I can't recall what record it > was.) Had this problem, too! If I remember correctly, it was the noisy Japanese garage punk band the Mad 3 on the "Napalm in the Morning" Estrus 10" EP. You could've seriously played it at either 33 or 45 rpm and it sounded fine both ways! Nowhere on the record was the speed. Actually, now that I think of it, I *still* can't think which speed it's supposed to be played at (I had to e-mail the label to find out for sure, but that was a few years ago...). Tuning into WCBN Ann Arbor right now. Sounds good! Damn, I wish KDHX still had its stream up... kopper The Wayback Machine http://www.garagepunk.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 22:50:38 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Did I say that??? In a message dated 1/7/02 6:57:23 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << out of nowhere, some refugee from a jug band whips his kazoo out of his shirt-tail pocket >> naw...dunno what i was thinking...shoulda said "shirt pocket." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:27:34 EST From: Dj45rpm@aol.com Subject: Re: Give The Kazoo Player Some In a message dated 1/7/02 4:10:39 PM Pacific Standard Time, HOODOO3005@aol.com writes: << Also: electric saxophones. >> Weren't there some fusion folks utilizing these in the hazy crazy days of the 70s? - -DavidH ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:42:56 EST From: SSamSS@aol.com Subject: Re: give the bassist some Not so much for the bass playing, but for the sound of the bass, I really love the guy from The Zombies. Listen to "Time of the Season". There's just a perfect growl to it. Absolutely divine. I pulled out "Time of the Zombies", and almost all of the tracks have an amazing bass tone to 'em... Sam :) - -------------------------------------------- Mondo Topless World HQ www.mondotopless.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jan 2002 00:00:18 -0700 From: colorcoat@home.com Subject: Re: Gene Simmons/Long Island Sound(s) David Coyle wrote: >I liked his (Gene Simmons) > fairly in-depth story of his early garage band days > with the Long Island Sounds, not to mention the > photos, but was put off by his preoccupation with the > fringe benefits of rock and roll. Is this the same Long Island Sound(s)(from New Haven, CT) which appear on Nuggets Volume Four: Pop Part Two with "1,2,3 And I Fell"? I didn't see any mention of Gene Klein or Gene Simmons in Greg Shaw's notes. Ted ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 23:25:05 -0800 From: "Joey Beretta" Subject: Re: Cow Bell Solos "Time Has Come Today" by the Chambers Brothers! 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