From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2002 #30 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Sunday, January 13 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 030 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: Neighbors Rat Pfink Re: bomp-digest V2002 #28 PRzealot@aol.com Re: Gene Simmons/Long Island Sound David Coyle Tenacious D / Spumco "Astroboy" Re: stereo better than mono David Coyle Re: AMC American Pop David Coyle Re: The Ultimate Turtles David Coyle Re: Fred Willard HOODOO3005@aol.com Love, Live & In The Studio HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Bo Diddley Live HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Rock n Roll High School on AMC... "cozmikdebris" Re: Bo Diddley Live "Kip Shepherd" Re: stereo better than mono Djcampaii@aol.com Re: Rock n Roll High School cut scenes.. "Joey Beretta" Re: feast of snakes "Crawdaddy Simon" Re:: VU "Alan Wright" Royal Tenenbaums? Don more tenenbaums Don julie driscoll/brian auger.....? Euphorik6@aol.com Re: julie driscoll/brian auger.....? "Crawdaddy Simon" Mike Spenser and the Cannibals "Mark Crowther" RE: Neighbors "James" A Feast of Snakes "Barry Stevenson" Re: Mike Spenser and the Cannibals Rat Pfink Re: A Feast of Snakes Alyssa Rogers-Gast Re:: VU "Kip Shepherd" Re: Neighbors "Laurent Bigot" Hardskin "Laurent Bigot" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:54:47 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Neighbors In the Belushi bio "Wired", I seem to remember (I read it around twenty years ago) that a chapter or two of the book went into the whole "Neighbors" debacle. Belushi was on a bit of the star trip at the time and I think he had a lot more to do with the way the film turned out than the director. But, yeah, how great of a comedy can you expect from the director of "Rocky" and "The Karate Kid. Also, Belushi was originally cast as the obnoxious neighbor but he and Aykroyd decided to switch roles before filming started. At 12:26 PM 1/12/02 -0500, you wrote: > >"I'll go along with "Caddyshack" and "Stripes", but >"Neighbors" was fuggin' awful! " > >Believe it or not, the Thomas Berger novel -Neighbors- is a great read -- a >really hilarious, droll black comedy about the suburbs. You're right, >though -- the film adaption is pretty awful. The movie makers TOTALLY >screwed it up. Plotwise, it's more or less similar to the book, but the >movie gets the tone and the sense of humor all wrong, and the casting is >terrible, especially Belushi. A great waste of a good idea! Some director >with better ideas and a better (and darker) sense of humor should try >filming it again one day. Try the book, though -- it's very funny. - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:00:48 EST From: PRzealot@aol.com Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #28 RE: AMC AMC has been editing and inserting commercials for quite a few months - I don't have the link, but anybody that is a film buff should complain... I did, and did the same with TVLand, which used to show those great sixties shows unedited, but alas, not any more. Don't know what could have been cut from "Rock 'n Roll High School" - but maybe edited for time, shave a few minutes here and there. Tim ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:40:30 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: Gene Simmons/Long Island Sound I have no reason to believe that Gene Simmons' LIS group was the same as the ones who did "1, 2, 3 And I Fell." Gene's group also included Steve Coronel who went on with Gene, Paul Stanley (Eisen), and some others to form Wicked Lester, which evolved to KISS. Gene refers to the Long Island Sounds as his "high-school garage band," and doesn't even mention them ever recording anything or going on to bigger things without him. Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:51:31 -0500 From: "Astroboy" Subject: Tenacious D / Spumco There's a pretty nifty flash video for Tenacious D online. It's made by Spumco http://www.spumco.com/entertainment/tenaciousd/index.html I know we're all adults here, but the content is pretty explicit, so I just want to throw in THAT word of warning to the fainthearted. Also It seems to get lots of traffic, plus it's a pretty big file so patience here is a virtue. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:01:08 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: stereo better than mono Moby Grape's first LP was recorded with a lot of stereo-panning effects. Unfortunately, it left a lot to be desired when played on mono phonographs. Was there a mono LP that was properly mixed? What of the singles (almost all the songs on the album were put out on singles simultaneously). Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: AMC American Pop I caught the last half-hour of "Rock And Roll High School" about 8 or so this morning and the first song I hear on the soundtrack is "High School" by the MC-5, which while not being the Ramones sounds pretty fresh for a 1970 song being used in a 1979 movie. Should have caught the rest. I noticed that either this month or next, all the "American Pop" films are going to be Abbott & Costello movies from the '40s. That doesn't sound like "American Pop," it just sounds like AMC. I miss all the rock films and the scopitones/TV clips... Dave __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:26:35 -0800 (PST) From: David Coyle Subject: Re: The Ultimate Turtles I love "She'll Come Back," which appeared on a later LP called "Wooden Head," which has also been reissued by Sundazed. Someone mentioned the Turtles being a first-rate album band... I have to agree. Getting Ray Davies to half-write and produce "Turtle Soup" was a stroke of genius and a bit of a lucky break. But for an album of leftovers, b-sides, movie tunes and alternates, "Wooden Head" is a pretty cohesive work. Perhaps not as conceptual as "Battle Of The Bands," but a consistently good listen. I used to have that Laserlight boxed set, which was pretty good, if cheap, and had the full support of Flo & Eddie, plus unreleased masters. Now I have all the albums on Repertoire reissues, except for the Sundazed versions of "Wooden Head" and "Turtle Soup." I'm especially looking forward to Rhino's upcoming "Solid Zinc" Turtles anthology. Dave Here's a top five from me, excluding the classic hits and somewhat emphasizing their "corny pop side": Just A Room (from "You Baby") We'll Meet Again (another dig-that-kazoo gem) You Don't Have To Walk In The Rain (pretty mature) She'll Come Back On A Summer's Day __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:30:12 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: Fred Willard In a message dated 1/12/02 1:04:42 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << Fred Willard was hilarious.>> << fred willard, that guy is just hysterical. >> Fred Willard was (and to me, still is) Jerry Hubbard from FERNWOOD TONIGHT!! (And AMERICA TONIGHT!!) Funny as all hell, too!! His recent turn as an eccentric history professor on UNDECLARED wasn't bad either. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:33:31 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Love, Live & In The Studio Ted said: << is "Love Live/Studio" on One Way worth the budget bin price? >> I'd have to say yeah...I like it, but then again, I'm a diehard fan. The studio tracks are excerpted from the two Blue Thumb albums, the live songs(from 1970) were previously unissued The only really terrible Arthur Lee/Love album I've heard is REEL TO REAL, on RSO. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:48:02 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: Bo Diddley Live In a message dated 1/12/02 1:04:42 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << Bo Live lp, I once read that some of that stuff wasn't really even Bo - it was Billy Riley and his 60s band. Anybody know the definitive story on this rumor? >> I thought we'd settled this already... The "live-on-the-beach" album (BO DIDDLEY'S BEACH PARTY) and the "surf" album (SURFIN' WITH BO DIDDLEY) are two different records. SURFIN" is the studio album that was fleshed out with these substandard Billy Lee Riley instrumental tracks. ...BEACH PARTY is the album that's supposed to be 100% untamed Bo, live & outtasite for real. With this in mind, it's a shame that Bo never made a REAL, honest-to-goodness surf record. Listening to his instrumentals like "Spanish Guitar" or "Mumblin' Guitar" (or even the guitar breaks in "Road Runner"), he could have stared down Dick Dale, Dave Myers, and the rest on their own surf turf. Hmmm, Bo and Dick are still alive - it's not too late for a supersession album. Just think the producers should do like Quincy Jones did at the USA For Africa ("We Are The World") sessions - put a sign up over the studio doorway saying "PLEASE CHECK YOUR EGOS HERE!!" <> A friend of mine says that when his dad was in college in the early sixties, he and his frat brothers recorded a Bo show that was then privately distributed amongst the frat brothers (and soror sisters). I don't think MCA would be interested - they're too busy repackaging the obvious material for the umpteenth time ("The Millenium Collection???"). James ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:57:27 -0500 From: "cozmikdebris" Subject: Re: Rock n Roll High School on AMC... To be honest I didn't research the movie like I did "Riot On Sunset Strip." When somebody on the list said "VCR Alert" I guess I assumed it was out of print, like Riot. So yeah, looks like the version with all the extra concert footage is the one I'll get. Thanks for the tip. Regards, cozmikdebris - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2002 1:41 PM Subject: Re: Rock n Roll High School on AMC... > > The VHS version has a nice interview with Roger Corman. The DVD has all the concert footage they shot for the movie and didn't use. You be the judge. > > George foreman of the jury...Moparlary > > > In a message dated Sat, 12 Jan 2002 2:23:44 AM Eastern Standard Time, "mykel" writes: > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what content was edited from this showing (which I > > > accidentally taped using the EP speed instead of SP, meaning I've gotta > > set > > > my alarm for 6:30 to redo it)? > > > > > > > wouldn't it be easier to just go buy the dvd? > > > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:15:34 -0600 From: "Kip Shepherd" Subject: Re: Bo Diddley Live >From: HOODOO3005@aol.com >Hmmm, Bo and Dick are still alive - it's not too late for a supersession >album. Just think the producers should do like Quincy Jones did at the USA >For Africa ("We Are The World") sessions - put a sign up over the studio >doorway saying "PLEASE CHECK YOUR EGOS HERE!!" > The sign would start spinning around and explode as soon as Bo & Dick entered the building! Kip _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:30:15 EST From: Djcampaii@aol.com Subject: Re: stereo better than mono > > Dave said: > Moby Grape's first LP was recorded with a lot of > stereo-panning effects. Unfortunately, it left a lot > to be desired when played on mono phonographs. Was > there a mono LP that was properly mixed? What of the > singles (almost all the songs on the album were put > out on singles simultaneously). > There was indeed a mono version of the first Lp which came out. I haven't heard it yet, but I imagine it was properly mixed. This version was reissued on Lp by Edsel in the eighties. All the singles (five issued simultaneously), the mixes were all mono. The mono single versions of "Omaha" and "Hey Grandma" are featured on the double cd that Sony put out in '93 (produced by Sundazed's Bob Irwin; it's sadly out of print, but well the effort to locate). The Grape's stuff is among the few sixties rock records that I actually prefer in stereo. Nearly all my faves (the Byrds, Beatles, Dylan, etc...) sound better in mono. A nicer, crisper sound, and more time was usually allocated for mono and single versions than stereo mixes. Besides, you don't lose any of the music on either channel and it sounds better in the car that way. Some records that ARE BETTER in stereo would be those of Esquivel (R.I.P.) and Mancini. Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 14:46:28 -0800 From: "Joey Beretta" Subject: Re: Rock n Roll High School cut scenes.. > The most common thing that gets edited from "broadcast" versions of R&R HS is the Riff Randall smokin' a joint and hallucinating that the Ramones are singing to her in her bed and bath. > In addition to the nasty drug reference, P.J. Soles appears (gasp) in her underwear, which is pretty tame by today's Baywatch/MTV standards. > Too bad because it is one of the funnier scenes in the movie, complete with Dee Dee playing the bass in the shower while the water's on. And the music is one the best Ramones ballads, "I want you Around" delivered in classic Joey meets Peter Noone. I watched it on AMC last night and that scene was there. The only things I noticed missing were Tom saying "I gotta get laid" as he walks down the hall talking to himself early in the movie, and most of the part with the guy with the cocaine at the Ramones show. Joey ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:50:19 -0500 From: "Crawdaddy Simon" Subject: Re: feast of snakes Mykel wrote: > hey, never heard of the band but that's gotta be one of my top 5 fave books! Alrat Mykel! Here's my Crews top 5: - - The Gypsy Curse - - A Childhood: The Biography of a Place - - Body - - Car - - This Thing Don't Lead to Heaven Crawdaddy Simon N.P.: The Nice - "Rondo" it's driving me crazy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:10:45 -0800 From: "Alan Wright" Subject: Re:: VU > > <"LEGENDARY 1967 ALBUM THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO > REISSUED IN TWO-CD DELUXE EDITION INCLUDING MONO VERSION > MAKING ITS U.S. CD DEBUT PLUS PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED TRACK" That's very exciting news for a big VU fan like myself! I was wondering when they were going to do a proper mono reissue of the first LP. I hadn't even heard about this, and it's not even mentioned on the VU Webpage which usually has breaking news concering reissues/bootlegs/etc. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:37:25 -0500 From: Don Subject: Royal Tenenbaums? >>>I'm about to go see the royal tennenbaums after trying in vain to get into >>>>> > that sold out show for a week. will let ya know. seems wes anderson >>> or >>>>> > whoever scores his flicks has pretty good taste so far tho. >>> >>>> >>>> Hope you enjoy it...I saw it on Christmas Day and found it to be rather >>>> lackluster...the soundtrack is about the only impressive aspect of the >>>> flick. >> >>Worst movie of the last five years, IMHO. Hated it so much, I vowed not to > go >>to a film for a month at least. > ??? When I saw Royal Tenenbaums, the audience gave it a standing ovation and I was included. A deeply layered absurd comic film with Gene Hackman playing an asshole who slowly turns out to be a real asshole, not some super-loveable old Hollywood coot, this guy pushes the envelope of good taste. (For instance in a heated argument he calls Danny Glover "Soul Train" only they dubbed it to Coltrane in the movie, "Soul Train" would have pushed the scene over the edge.) Very funny in that super-successful wealthy new York family kind of way... Like those punx you'd know in NYC bands and when you'd visit them you'd quickly realize they lived off a trust fund and had this bizarre culture of bagels from "this one place over there" and not "that damn place" on the 1st floor of their building. So yeah, like I know that not everyone knew anyone like that, so I gotta mention on such a list w/ such a broad geography that if none of that New Yorky stuff means anything to you, then the film may not either. Kumar Pallana from Bottle Rocket and Rushmore did a pretty stunning job in scenes alone with Hackman. A more skilled actor would have overplayed the role of "houseboy." There's another scene in the film with a funny visual nod to the French Connection. There are cool rock and roll songs on the soundtrack, one standout Ramones number, but nothing to make a rock fan see it for rock reasons. I actually thought Gwynneth Paltrow was pretty good. Bill Murray is only in the film briefly. A friend in the bidness said the film reminded him of an indie-pop record, crafted for quirkiness first. that could set people off, it doesn't have any of the sixties feel that Rushmore did. (I thought Rushmore reminded me a lot of If and other brit class flix) Don ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:44:32 -0500 From: Don Subject: more tenenbaums >Tenenbaums had no discernable plot, of course that makes it a better film than the general hollywood drivel that says if the plot's not telegraphed 15 minutes beforehand the 12 yr. olds won't pay to see it. I would almost ALWAYS prefer a film with no discernible plot. What you wrote you didn't like about it, I loved. Don ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:35:58 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: julie driscoll/brian auger.....? hey, can somebody tell me which julie driscoll/brian auger album has "tramp" on it?? i can't find this song anyplace..... thanks rob ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:43:52 -0500 From: "Crawdaddy Simon" Subject: Re: julie driscoll/brian auger.....? Rob wrote: > hey, can somebody tell me which julie driscoll/brian auger album has > "tramp" on it?? i can't find this song anyplace..... It's on "Open", their first one from 1967. Crawdaddy Simon ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 01:53:20 -0000 From: "Mark Crowther" Subject: Mike Spenser and the Cannibals I have the Breast of the Cannibals. Unfortunately it doesn't have the track I really want on CD. I'm looking for "Come See Me (I'm your man)" by the Cannibals on CD. I have it on a CD "20 Great Hits of the 60's" and was shocked many years after buying the tape to find that it was recorded in the 80s. My second question is, was this song recorded originally in the 60s, if so by who and where can you get that?! Does Mike Spenser have a current website? Mark Mark Crowther Tel/Fax: +44 01274 882143 Mobile 07951 967851 ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:02:59 -0500 From: "James" Subject: RE: Neighbors "Also, Belushi was originally cast as the obnoxious neighbor but he and Aykroyd decided to switch roles before filming started." Yep, and I'm convinced the movie would have been much better if they kept it that way. Belushi would have made the perfect bizarre, imposing neighbor, and Ackroyd would have been fine as the straight arrow suburban guy. I can understand why they switched (the actors wanted to break out of the types they were playing in the movies), but it just didn't work for me the other way around, especially compared to the book. James ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:42:34 -0800 From: "Barry Stevenson" Subject: A Feast of Snakes I don't know what the band sounds like.. But the book "A feast of Snakes" by Harry Crews is incredible... Anybody ever read him?... Sounds like a lot of Musicians do, as Kim Gordon and Lydia Lunch named a band after him as well... ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:48:57 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Mike Spenser and the Cannibals The Pretty Things recorded "Come See Me" in the '60s... At 01:53 AM 1/13/02 -0000, you wrote: > >I'm looking for "Come See Me (I'm your man)" by the Cannibals on >CD. I have it on a CD "20 Great Hits of the 60's" and was shocked >many years after buying the tape to find that it was recorded in the >80s. > >My second question is, was this song recorded originally in the >60s, if so by who and where can you get that?! - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 22:08:40 -0600 From: Alyssa Rogers-Gast Subject: Re: A Feast of Snakes Barry Stevenson wrote: > I don't know what the band sounds like.. But the book "A feast of Snakes" by Harry Crews is incredible... > > the BAND sounds fantastic .Last night had the good fortune to see loads of great music in Big D. Firstly, Feast of Snakes featuring the amazingly prolific and good pal Hank Tosh of many-bands-too-numerous-to-name-fame and Alex from The Gospel Swingers/Now Time Delegation and oh, shit, I don't need to name all the peeps in the band, but MAAAN, that show rocked. Was the right thing at the right time. Then I swept over to another venue to catch Sylvain Sylvain booked by my new friend, Joey, and that was ultra smashing as well.............and the after hours party featuring, well, loads of great people, would like to give a shout out to my new Riverboat Gambler pal and of course to all and sundry that I met last night, some of whom apparently lurk on this list! Off to see mr. tosh in another of his bands, The Deadites, who came oh-so-close to winning in the CAVESTOMP! Online Battle of the Bands contest from 2000....any Dallas/FW folk still at home, come out to Bar of Soap, I'm out the door- ~ALYSSA http://www.cavestomp.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 00:10:42 -0600 From: "Kip Shepherd" Subject: Re:: VU >From: "Alan Wright" >Reply-To: bomp@xnet2.com >To: >Subject: Re:: VU >Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:10:45 -0800 > > > > > <"LEGENDARY 1967 ALBUM THE VELVET UNDERGROUND & NICO > > REISSUED IN TWO-CD DELUXE EDITION INCLUDING MONO VERSION > > MAKING ITS U.S. CD DEBUT PLUS PREVIOUSLY UNRELEASED TRACK" > > >That's very exciting news for a big VU fan like myself! I was wondering >when >they were going to do a proper mono reissue of the first LP. I hadn't even >heard about this, and it's not even mentioned on the VU Webpage which >usually has breaking news concering reissues/bootlegs/etc. > I'm excited about this, too. With all these reissues and live LP's coning out, you'd think the VU were a popular band! Kip _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:01:01 +0100 From: "Laurent Bigot" Subject: Re: Neighbors > But, yeah, how great of a comedy can you expect from the > director of "Rocky" and "The Karate Kid. > > >"Neighbors" was fuggin' awful! " I dig "Neighbors" a lot... Laurent ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 10:06:21 +0100 From: "Laurent Bigot" Subject: Hardskin Was lucky to see Hardskin last ever (killer) show last night. Those who dig pre-Metal Cockney Rejects should check this band's LP (on Brokken Riikids in the US). Laurent ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2002 #30 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. 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