From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2002 #54 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Thursday, January 24 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 054 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) Jangellamf@aol.com old school rap "Crawdaddy Simon" Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) Rat Pfink Re: Did somebody say bob enyart? ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) DaGreasyChicken@aol.com Re: Did somebody say bob enyart? SOSBOMBS@aol.com Re: bomp-digest V2002 #52 ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Re: jethro tolerance "johntrembly" Salmund Rushdie's new book TheReedGuy@aol.com Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) Rat Pfink Re: fake British accents in garage Moreen5000@aol.com Re: fake British accents in garage Moreen5000@aol.com Re: fake British accents in garage Moreen5000@aol.com Re: Christian Rock Discussion Iam Fuzzco Re: More Christian rock rewrites! "Lenny Smith" Re: The Outsiders/Tax Free/John Cale/Modern Lovers colorcoat@home.com Re: bomp-digest V2002 #52 "Lenny Smith" Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) "Lenny Smith" Re: old school rap "Lenny Smith" Re: More Christian rock rewrites! David Re: jethro tolerance DaGreasyChicken@aol.com Re: bomp-digest V2002 #53 Tim Lakritz Re: Fw: How North Carolina Got Its Punk Attitude Redlabour@cs.com Re: Jack Chick "Lenny Smith" Re: jethro tolerance Jason Mata Re: Lyrics please! "Lenny Smith" Re: guides to life "SJ Bink" ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:39:03 EST From: Jangellamf@aol.com Subject: Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) In a message dated 01/23/2002 6:32:15 PM Pacific Standard Time, ed_flynn3@yahoo.com writes: > I ask: sex through sheets? What the fuck is THAT all about? > --ed > Orthodox Jews have sex through sheets. There is a hole there, Ed... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:40:39 -0500 From: "Crawdaddy Simon" Subject: old school rap Lenny wrote: > In general, I think > there was a much greater spirit of FUN in the earlier years of Rap; I miss a > lot of the Old School artists. Hey Lenny, did you read the Sugarhill story in the last Mojo Collections? It did sound like a lot of fun, and funky fun too. Dig, Crawdaddy Simon ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:34:46 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) This is an urban myth about Orthodox Jews. It's been debunked: http://www.snopes2.com/religion/sheet.htm At 06:31 PM 1/23/02 -0800, you wrote: > >> Compared to who, the Taliban? Or the people who have sex through >> sheets? > >I ask: sex through sheets? What the fuck is THAT all about? - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:47:34 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: Re: Did somebody say bob enyart? someone wrote: > ...kind of weird, small-world kind of stuff. i knew the guy that > called, slightly. he was a dick. his name was (i swear to > god) "deuce." "Baby if you're feelin' good Baby if you're feelin' nice You know your man is workin' hard He's worth a deuce - --Kiss ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:48:29 EST From: DaGreasyChicken@aol.com Subject: Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) Jangellamf@aol.com writes:<< Orthodox Jews have sex through sheets. There is a hole there, Ed... >> Not true. >From snopes2.com: Claim: Orthodox Jews have marital relations through a hole in a sheet. Status: False. Origins: Common to the human experience is the desire to bask in the sure and certain knowledge that those who adhere to different practices have it much worse than we do. Part of belonging to any group is the need to believe it's the best of its kind, and that holds true even when the groups in question are different religions, or even sects within the same religion. One needs to feel comforted that one has made the right choice and is indeed upon the right path, after all. Consequently, bits of wild misinformation about what goes on in the other camp often get circulated as truth because these tales serve to confirm the rightness of one's own choice. Such is the case with the "sex through a hole in the sheet" rumor. None of the three branches of Judaism (Orthodox, Conservative, or Reform) require this of their adherents, and indeed taking the joy out of marital sex in such a fashion runs directly counter to all things Jewish. Whereas in some branches of religion sex within marriage is supposed to be primarily for the purposes of procreation, throughout Judaism it's viewed as a celebration of couplehood -- man and wife are supposed to enjoy each other, whether kids are the goal of the encounter or not. Indeed, not making love to your wife can call rabbinical sanction down upon the head of a Jewish man or even provide grounds for divorce. The times for conjugal duty prescribed in the Torah are: for men of independence, every day; for laborers, twice a week; for ass-drivers, once a week; for camel-drivers, once in thirty days; for sailors, once in six months. These are the rulings of Rabbi Eliezer. In a world that made sense, this rumor about joyless sex would better adhere to just about anyone other than Jews. Ah, but sometimes things just aren't logical. Interestingly enough, a 1995 article in The Jerusalem Times said about modesty practices in other cultures, "[I]n Catholic Mexico of yore with the use of modesty bed sheets with carefully stitched and positioned holes in them." Looks like its writer confused a scene from the 1992 film Like Water For Chocolate with reality. (See the Sighting section at the end of this page for more about that film.) One guess as to the origin of the slit sheet belief postulates it as a joking reference to ultra-Orthodox weddings, where men and women are said to attend separate receptions by way of dividing the hall with a curtain. Through a hole in the curtain, the children can pass through, but no one else. However, according to the soc.culture.jewish FAQ: We don't know what you've heard, but what we've heard is that when it comes time for three men to "witness" a woman's conversion [involving nude immersion], what's commonly done is for the water's surface to be covered with a thick, opaque sheet with a hole in it, just big enough to let her head through while discreetly shielding the rest of her body. According to a Jewish "urban legend," the myth derives from seeing Jews in religious neighborhoods hanging their "talitot katan" out to dry. This poncho-like garment is about two feet by four feet, has a fringe on each corner, and a hole in the center for the wearer's head, and it looks somewhat like a small sheet with a hole, and many people have vivid and warped imaginations. This rumor spreads chiefly among non-Orthodox Jews and is not often heard from those of other faiths. Whatever this snippet of misinformation's beginnings, the whisper about holes in sheets has become a part of Jewish lore that reflects attitudes towards the fabled strictness of Orthodox practices. To even hint that sexuality between man and wife -- a vibrant part of Judaism -- has been squelched to this degree within the Orthodox branch is to strike at the heart of all things Jewish. Nothing could better capture the presumption about how joyless life must be within the Orthodox faith. But that's not the way of it at all. Shmuel Boteach, author of the acclaimed Kosher Sex: A Recipe for Passion and Intimacy labels the sheet rumor as utterly false. "Judaism," he says, "is the one religion that not only allows sex for pleasure but sees sex as the holiest of all acts because it brings life into the world - and even when it doesn't, it sews two people together as one flesh, one soul." This tenet of the religion holds true across all branches of Judaism, including the heavily-governed Orthodox. Barbara "short sheeted" Mikkelson Sightings: This belief turns up as a scene in the 1992 film Como agua para chocolate (Like Water For Chocolate), which is set in the late 1800s. Following the wedding of a young Mexican couple, a scene from their wedding night shows the new wife nervously arranging a sheet over herself. Also, Simon Louvish's 1986 book The Death of Moishe-Ganef uses the sheet belief as a plot point. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:49:37 EST From: SOSBOMBS@aol.com Subject: Re: Did somebody say bob enyart? "Only a christian"? More like "only a fundamentalist [pick your religion] would try and pervert gods natural work and tell us it is bad and try to make us feel guilty about it." Orthodox Jews have sex through sheets. There is a hole there, Ed... ????? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 18:52:07 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #52 - --- bob thurmond wrote: > Hey there, I just began getting the BOMP! list and find the subject > of Christian Rock being discussed. And? ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 21:54:08 -0500 From: "johntrembly" Subject: Re: jethro tolerance Ian Anderson also had a nice comment about Johnny Ramone in a MOJO "50 Greatest Guitarists" issue a few years ago. John www.izzymusic.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 6:28 PM Subject: Re: jethro tolerance > > > In a message dated 1/23/02 2:06:20 PM, dothepop@ix.netcom.com writes: > > << Locked in a stadium with any era Jethro Tull would be too much for me! >> > > i am not a fan either, but i gotta admit, i do dig some of the early > stuff - the tune they do on the rock&roll circus kicks ass, and i love "a new > day yesterday." to be honest, all of the very early (60s) tull stuff i've > heard (granted, not a lot) is pretty good. hey maureen - didn't you just > score all of the remeasters of the early LPs? what's the scoop on those? > ian anderson gets extra points from me for some insightful & cool > commentary in the liners to the recent big beat reissue of the john > renbourn/dorris henderson "there you go" LP... > > > rob > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > - ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:16:03 EST From: TheReedGuy@aol.com Subject: Salmund Rushdie's new book "Did you here about Salmund Rushdie's new book? It's called "Buddha was a Big Fat Fucker"." I saw this written in a restroom stall at San Francisco State University a few years back. The funniest thing I've seen written in a stall there. Much better than "San Francisco State Diplomas" written on the the toilet roll dispenser. Reed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:32:28 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) The Upright Citizens Brigade had a skit in one of their shows where a guy took the hole in the sheet thing to the extreme. At 09:34 PM 1/23/02 -0500, you wrote: > >This is an urban myth about Orthodox Jews. It's been >debunked: > >http://www.snopes2.com/religion/sheet.htm > >At 06:31 PM 1/23/02 -0800, you wrote: >> >>> Compared to who, the Taliban? Or the people who have sex through >>> sheets? >> >>I ask: sex through sheets? What the fuck is THAT all about? - ----------------------------------- | Rat Pfink ratpfink@akamail.com | - ----------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:51:27 EST From: Moreen5000@aol.com Subject: Re: fake British accents in garage ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:51:25 EST From: Moreen5000@aol.com Subject: Re: fake British accents in garage ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:51:30 EST From: Moreen5000@aol.com Subject: Re: fake British accents in garage ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:03:18 -0800 (PST) From: Iam Fuzzco Subject: Re: Christian Rock Discussion - --- bob thurmond wrote: > > Hey there, > I just began getting the BOMP! list and find the > subject of Christian Rock being discussed. "Bob", eh? Slack, eh? Methinks there is another religion you'd rather discuss, an industrial religion? Of love AND money? Enough Jesus-bashing, bring on the "Fightin' Jesus"? Is that what you are trying to "sell" us on, "Bob"??? __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:21:10 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: More Christian rock rewrites! "David Coyle" wrote: > How about > something like "You're Gonna Miss Me" ("You're gonna > wake up one morning, and find Christ has come...")? Or > how about "Are You Gonna Be There (At The Rapture)?" > Or "Holy Water" (instead of "Dirty Water")? Yeeks! Those are so good they're downright EVIL!!! Please, David, PROMISE us you'll never go to work for "the other side!" Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 23:34:30 -0700 From: colorcoat@home.com Subject: Re: The Outsiders/Tax Free/John Cale/Modern Lovers > (i guess a lot of people don't like tax free, but once again, i am > with ted - i dig em) rob--what kind of bad rap does "Tax Free" get? I have only heard a discerning DJ & record collector describe it (in a neutral to positive tone) as a "whole 'nother ballpark" compared to the Outsiders. Incidentally, John Cale played electric viola on "Tax Free." Earlier I was looking around on Google for the lyrics for the Modern Lovers' "I Wanna Sleep in Your Arms" in order to reply to Justina's request, but achieved no real results. It appears that the useful "Unofficial JoJo Chords" pages have vanished recently--possibly "missing link" fallout generated by the excite@home fiasco?? The "Jonathan Richman Rockin'Lyrics" site does not provide comprehensive coverage of his Modern Lovers era: http://people.we.mediaone.net/karpp/jojo/ However, I did come across an exciting Modern Lovers site I was previously unfamiliar with (and it includes a rare 1967 zine article by Richman on VU): http://freespace.virgin.net/daniel.howard1/tml/home.htm The Velvet Underground piece: http://freespace.virgin.net/daniel.howard1/tml/vufr.htm Ted ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:25:09 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #52 "bob thurmond" wrote: > Hey there, > I just began getting the BOMP! list and find the subject of Christian Rock > being discussed. My son, you must feel downright BLESSED. ; ) Welcome!!! Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:26:34 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: toga party? (was: God dont make no junk!) wrote: > Orthodox Jews have sex through sheets. There is a hole there, Ed... Actually, I bet the KKK do, too. Then there's the Mormons with their holy underpants... Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:27:47 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: old school rap Simon asked: > Hey Lenny, did you read the Sugarhill story in the last Mojo Collections? It > did sound like a lot of fun, and funky fun too. Wow, no, I missed that, Simon, but thanks for the tip! I'll definitely track it down! Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 00:30:17 -0600 From: David Subject: Re: More Christian rock rewrites! Word, the Word, yeah the Word is the Word, ah well the Word the Word Word Word's the Word Well don't you know abut the Word, Well, everybody knows that the Word is the Word ah well the Word the Word Word Word's the Word.... SURFIN WORD!! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:31:51 EST From: DaGreasyChicken@aol.com Subject: Re: jethro tolerance johntrembly@netzero.net writes:<< Ian Anderson also had a nice comment about Johnny Ramone in a MOJO "50 Greatest Guitarists" issue a few years ago. >> Not only that, he actually sang and played flute on a NY hardcore band's album back in the 80s. Andre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:34:32 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Lakritz Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #53 > Speaking of guys who kick ass for Christ, there's this > bunch of muscle-bound weightlifter guys that rip phone > books in half and bust cinder blocks over each other's> heads, all for JC Fuck yeah, that's the Power Team! Me and some friends went to see them at the local First Assembly of God and it was some crazy shit. I mean, these dudes broke through burning 2 by 4's, squeezed open soda cans with their bare hands, broke baseball bats over their legs, and then talked about The Lord. They made us all say a prayer, then called everybody up onto the stage for a Blessing! We were already getting dirty looks from everyone around us, so we hightailed it outta there. It's a Miracle we made it outalive! Mark Yeah, you got it - that's THEM!!!! Tim __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 01:52:54 EST From: Redlabour@cs.com Subject: Re: Fw: How North Carolina Got Its Punk Attitude Greetings, This was an interesting article; however, I didn't realize that Mitch Easter was as old as I thought he was. For some reason, I really can't picture him a college student as early as 1974 at UNC-Chapel Hill. And that's 10 years after my dad graduated from UNC-Chapel Hill himself. Actually, speaking of the North Carolina scene. I was at a local instrument store in Smithfield. The owner of the store is over 50 years old. Anyway, I placed an ad for a Vox Organ with my phone number. He noticed my intrerest in Vox Organ. We started talking about garage rock. He mentioned that he played a Farfisa in his old band back in the 60s. I told him that I just purchased a Farfisa myself. Anyway, the name of his old band which name escapes me at the moment. They mostly cover R&B at that time. The poster from 1967 was on the wall, and there were four guys and one gal. It's kind of wierd thinking of a garage band in Johnston County, but it is kind of cool too. Cheers, Melvin Little In a message dated 1/23/02 9:00:11 AM Pacific Standard Time, nebulax@go.com writes: << Subj: Fw: How North Carolina Got Its Punk Attitude Date: 1/23/02 9:00:11 AM Pacific Standard Time From: nebulax@go.com (Neb Rodgers) Sender: owner-bomp@xnet2.com Reply-to: bomp@xnet2.com To: bomp@xnet2.com Hey all, After seeing some mention of the 60's garage and psych scene in North Carolina, I thought I'd foward a link to a great article about all that. Feed your head, Neb -----Original Message----- From: "Neb Rodgers" To: "me- at-go" Date: Tue Jan 22 19:41:58 PST 2002 Subject: How North Carolina Got Its Punk Attitude ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 02:19:44 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: Jack Chick Whoops--correction to my last post. The cannibalism Crusader comic is #2, The Broken Cross. REALLY weird. And here's a link to the Rock 'n' Roll ish, Spellbound: http://www.chick.com/catalog/comics/0110.asp Y'know, while I'm not CRAZY about putting cash into these whackos' hands, no fan of R&R's collection can be complete without this comic. Really! Oh, and the Conspiracy Theory comic is #9, Angel of Light (yep, that would be our good friend, Mr. Louie Cypher, ol' splitfoot, Satan). Praaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaise gawd, Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 22:56:26 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Mata Subject: Re: jethro tolerance They also used 'Thick as a Brick' on a car commercial that was playing about a month ago. - -JM - --- Alex Piandes wrote: > > rob wrote: > > > i do dig some of the early > > stuff - the tune they do on the rock&roll circus > kicks ass, and i love "a > new > > day yesterday." to be honest, all of the very > early (60s) tull stuff i've > > heard (granted, not a lot) is pretty good. > > > This Was, Benefit, and Stand Up are 3 great LPs. I > used to host a Jazz show > several years back and I played "Bouree" for shits & > giggles. Man, you > wouldn't believe the angry calls. No matter what > anybody sez, it's a Jazz > tune. Oh well. > > Alex > C 'n' S > > __________________________________________________ > Alex Piandes > Coffee 'n' Smokes > WMFO (91.5fm) > Medford, MA > > "Featuring new & vintage garage/punk, surf, > psychedelic, > rockabilly, pop obscurities,...and a little bit o' > greasy R & B" > > TUNE IN LIVE VIA WINAMP MP3 THROUGH THE NEW > COFFEE 'N' SMOKES > (http://coffeensmokes.freeservers.com) > OR THE WMFO (www.wmfo.org) WEBSITES!!! > > Coffee 'n' Smokes airs every Saturday morning from > 6-9am (EST) and... > 3-6am (U.S.Pacific), 4-7am (U.S.Mountain), 5-8am > (U.S.Central), 11am-2pm > (GMT), > Noon-3pm (Paris/Rome/Amsterdam), 1-4pm (Athens), > 8-11pm (Tokyo), > 9pm-Midnight > (Sydney/Melbourne) and 10pm-1am Sunday (Auckland) > > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to > majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 04:15:51 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: Lyrics please! "Justina Davies" wrote: > Thanks so much for the lyrics, Lenny! No problem! It's ONLY my FAVE Sonics tune, hehehe... even over Cinderella. > And yeah, I know everyone covers that one, but I don't care. I still love > it and it's fun to play! Damn straight; I've done it myself, so I knows JUST whatcha mean! And when ya get it RIGHT, it's one SCARY soundin' song! Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 10:34:24 +0000 From: "SJ Bink" Subject: Re: guides to life Euphorik6@aol.com writes: "swann's way": you talkin about the Proust novel? (just curious), bink ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2002 #54 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com