From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2002 #76 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Tuesday, February 5 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 076 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: Gratefully Dead "Lenny Smith" Re: np - giles, giles & fripp "Lenny Smith" Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Re: Gratefully Dead Jason Mata Re: Gratefully Dead "Alan Wright" Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock-what's the dif.? Rick McCullough Re: Gratefully Dead Rat Pfink Re: Sleazefest California vs. Sleazefest North Carolina "Astroboy" Gratefully Dead ronald and karen sanchez Re: Concept Bands Sknoof@aol.com Acid Facial Hair Vs. Psych Facial Hair ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock Euphorik6@aol.com Re: Concept Bands Euphorik6@aol.com Re: Gratefully Dead "johntrembly" Re: missing records ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Re: Acid Facial Hair Vs. Psych Facial Hair Euphorik6@aol.com Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock bryan L.A. Musicians Wanted "Chris Guttmacher" Re: L.A. Musicians Wanted bryan Re: damage (was Re: Concept Bands) "mykel" Ramsey Lewis/Remains HOODOO3005@aol.com The coolest pad EVER! Tim Lakritz 1960's Rock Bands With Facial Hair HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock-what's the dif.? Bård Hodneland ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:25:40 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: Gratefully Dead wrote: > I once was looking at some of the very first issues of 'Rolling Stone' > magazine, from 1967, and there was a news item in one of those issues that > said that Eric Burdon and the Animals had a new record coming out called > "Gratefully Dead." I've never ever come across this song on any Eric > Burdon/Animals release. Did this song ever actually come out, and if so, > where can it be found? I just saw it listed myself, and realized I'd never heard it. It's a b-side, I THINK it was the flip of "San Franciscan ['francisco?] Nights"--don't know if there's a US or UK only wrinkle to it, either. Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:29:18 -0500 From: "Lenny Smith" Subject: Re: np - giles, giles & fripp rob, thanks for the review. Damn, I'll have to break out "Cheerful Insanity" again... it's been a LONG time... and see if I hear it differently now. I got it back in '77 or '78, and was TOTALLY unprepared for how unlike King Crimson it was. I just couldn't reconcile "Elephant Song" (and that was my favorite cut) with "21st Century Schizoid Man." And believe me, I TRIED, lol... played it quite a bit when I got it, but I was NOT on their wavelength at the time. I'll definitely give it another shot, though. Lenny ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 16:58:22 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock > Does anyone have a definition for 'Acid Rock' as compared to > 'Psychedelic Rock'? I'd say I'm a psychedelic rock fan/musician. 'Acid rock' to me is less a genre than a 60's conservative media term used to describe the music and light shows of the Dead, Airplane, etc, usually with a negative connotation (as in: "look at these acid taking noise making freaks"--I'd take that as a compliment, though). Psychedelic rock, as I'm familiar with it, encompasses a great deal of musicians who usually eschew traditional rock n roll chord changes in favor of modal, droney structures ideal for extended soloing, etc. There was a HUGE discussion about this a while ago on the Drone-on list, where we were discussing psychedelic properties in music in general, let alone rock. I'm going to avoid giving any kind of subject definition, because words have limitations and loaded meanings. For example, I'd say that Blue Cheer is a psych-rock band, but theirs is a music with a heavy blues influence. What made their 'blues' psychedelic was their ability to take the form and stretch it out structurally and, most importantly, sonicly. So does that mean that the blues is psychedelic? No; the psychedelic vibe was a place that this blues based music ended up, due to a confluence of extra-musical variables. I hear psychedelic rock elements in a lot of early 'garage' music as well. There is certainly a technological influence. Y'know, run your sound thru delay, roto-vibe and wah-wah, and yeah that's getting psychedelic man. This is only my view. Others will disagree. It all depends on your entry point. - --ed, waiting for the posting fallout and still carrying the torch for Blue Cheer. ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:22:29 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Mata Subject: Re: Gratefully Dead It's on the comp called...shit, I forgot (the label is called Mom's records and the comp features international beat groups), but I'll let you know when I get home in half an hour. It's a fuckin awensome fuzzed out psych-punker. One of my favorites for sure. - -JM - --- Lenny Smith wrote: > > wrote: > > I once was looking at some of the very first > issues of 'Rolling Stone' > > magazine, from 1967, and there was a news item in > one of those issues that > > said that Eric Burdon and the Animals had a new > record coming out called > > "Gratefully Dead." I've never ever come across > this song on any Eric > > Burdon/Animals release. Did this song ever > actually come out, and if so, > > where can it be found? > > I just saw it listed myself, and realized I'd never > heard it. It's a > b-side, I THINK it was the flip of "San Franciscan > ['francisco?] > Nights"--don't know if there's a US or UK only > wrinkle to it, either. > > Lenny > > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to > majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 17:32:57 -0800 From: "Alan Wright" Subject: Re: Gratefully Dead I once was looking at some of the very first issues of 'Rolling Stone' magazine, from 1967, and there was a news item in one of those issues that said that Eric Burdon and the Animals had a new record coming out called "Gratefully Dead." I've never ever come across this song on any Eric Burdon/Animals release. Did this song ever actually come out, and if so, where can it be found?>> Great song!! It was the flipside to "San Francisco Nights." You can find it on "Hide 'n' Seek, Vol. 2" as well as "The Deluxe BBC Files" double CD bootleg set. Alan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:10:00 -0800 From: Rick McCullough Subject: Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock-what's the dif.? Mndbgr1@aol.com wrote: > First of all, for me, "psychedelic rock" does not allow for the earliest > form of psychedelic music-garage band music, which was already in > place when psychedelic influences started to creep into the records. > I say this because I believe any kind of "rock" music has left out the > "roll" quotient in name and quality (teenage excitement, the beat, etc) > This is why you will never hear me use the term "garage rock". Because > "rock" w/o the roll is a whole different ball game to me. What an odd thing to take a principled stand on. I suppose "garage punk" is also out. I'm not being critical here, but didn't this line of thinking crop up in some George Carlin bit from the 70s? Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 20:50:30 -0500 From: Rat Pfink Subject: Re: Gratefully Dead It's on a comp LP called "Hide 'N' Seek Again #2"... At 05:22 PM 2/4/02 -0800, you wrote: > >It's on the comp called...shit, I forgot (the label is >called Mom's records and the comp features >international beat groups), but I'll let you know when >I get home in half an hour. It's a fuckin awensome >fuzzed out psych-punker. One of my favorites for sure. >-JM > >--- Lenny Smith wrote: >> >> wrote: >> > I once was looking at some of the very first >> issues of 'Rolling Stone' >> > magazine, from 1967, and there was a news item in >> one of those issues that >> > said that Eric Burdon and the Animals had a new >> record coming out called >> > "Gratefully Dead." I've never ever come across >> this song on any Eric >> > Burdon/Animals release. Did this song ever >> actually come out, and if so, >> > where can it be found? >> >> I just saw it listed myself, and realized I'd never >> heard it. It's a >> b-side, I THINK it was the flip of "San Franciscan >> ['francisco?] >> Nights"--don't know if there's a US or UK only >> wrinkle to it, either. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 20:55:24 -0500 From: "Astroboy" Subject: Re: Sleazefest California vs. Sleazefest North Carolina WOOO-HOOOO. AWL RAHT!!!! I was kind of bummed about the move west, so this is just hunkey dory in my book. - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Bomp/Voxx Records" Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 5:27 AM Subject: Sleazefest California vs. Sleazefest North Carolina > > Greetings, > > About 2 weeks ago, I got upset over the fact that Sleazefest would only > be in California. At the Local 506 (in Chapel Hill) tonight, I asked the > bartender about it. He informed me that there are two Sleazefests. > The one in North Carolina will stay here at the Local 506 during the > first week of August as usual. They just decided to give San Francisco > there own version with Sleazefest West. > > Wheeewwww!!!! > Melvin Little > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 18:51:50 -0700 From: ronald and karen sanchez Subject: Gratefully Dead > I have it on the flip of the UK release of San Francisco Nights MGM1359. I paid 40p for it. Not the best Animals tune from the era. RS > > ------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:12:18 EST > From: NankerPhlg@aol.com > Subject: Gratefully Dead > > I once was looking at some of the very first issues of 'Rolling Stone' > magazine, from 1967, and there was a news item in one of those issues that > said that Eric Burdon and the Animals had a new record coming out called > "Gratefully Dead." I've never ever come across this song on any Eric > Burdon/Animals release. Did this song ever actually come out, and if so, > where can it be found? > > ------------------------------ > > - -- The Donovan's Brain Web Site http://www.donovans-brain.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:21:38 EST From: Sknoof@aol.com Subject: Re: Concept Bands PJ is finally doing something worthwhile with his time: << We call ourselves The Custard Men and only perform songs about things that are yellow. >> Ah! "Magic Pus." Mike F. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:43:15 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: Acid Facial Hair Vs. Psych Facial Hair Jon Lord of Deep Purple had a moustache. - --ed: what will we discuss next? Acid groupies? Ha ha ha... - --- Jason Mata wrote: > Um, I don't remember any of those groups having > members with facial hair. - --- "Chas G." wrote: > bands like Blue Cheer, Iron Butterfly, Deep Purple, or > Vanilla Fudge. Extended jams, drum solos, bad facial > hair, ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:53:51 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock i've always imagined "acid rock" to have more of a missionary angle on the whole psychedelic experience...what i am talking about is music directly concerned with expressing the distorted (or heightened) state of conciousness derived from ingestion of the big bad psychedelic molecule. "tomorrow never knows," the first elevators LP, quicksilver's "the fool," & country joe's "bass strings" & "section 43" would definitely qualify. "psychedelic rock" i always think of as borrowing the wigged-out state of mind and altered perceptions of the acid culture without necessarily attempting to spread the more literal chemical gospel - "sgt pepper," "piper at the gates of dawn," "eight miles high," that kinda thing. speaking of acid - what was that movie a few years back where ben stiller played an adopted kid trying to track his parents down?? he finally finds them, and it's alan alda & lily tomlin, playing these whacked-out acid missionary tommy hall-type people. great movie, can't remember the name, though.... rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:56:21 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: Concept Bands In a message dated 2/4/02 9:22:44 PM, PJ wrote: << We call ourselves The Custard Men and only perform songs about things that are yellow. >> & mike responded: << "Magic Pus.">> how about "snot fade away" -? rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:56:53 -0500 From: "johntrembly" Subject: Re: Gratefully Dead It was the UK b-side to "San Franciscan Nights" and as far as I know it never was released in the States. Yes, it's the only psych-era Animals cut I'm missing from my collection. I was really into to the psychedelic period of the Animals for a while. John www.izzymusic.com - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 7:12 PM Subject: Gratefully Dead > > I once was looking at some of the very first issues of 'Rolling Stone' > magazine, from 1967, and there was a news item in one of those issues that > said that Eric Burdon and the Animals had a new record coming out called > "Gratefully Dead." I've never ever come across this song on any Eric > Burdon/Animals release. Did this song ever actually come out, and if so, > where can it be found? > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > - ---------------------------------------------------- Sign Up for NetZero Platinum Today Only $9.95 per month! http://my.netzero.net/s/signup?r=platinum&refcd=PT97 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 18:58:18 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: Re: missing records - --- Anikka Lauritssen wrote: > I have an ex-boyfriend (some of you know who I'm talking 'bout) > whom I discovered had stolen and sold a few lps here and there from > me. . . he also stole and sold videotapes of mine and took back and > sold gifts he had given me. Who? Who? Can we get a Bomp-posse together and bust his kneecaps? - --ed, crankin' Iggy's 'Beat Em Up' ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:59:08 EST From: Euphorik6@aol.com Subject: Re: Acid Facial Hair Vs. Psych Facial Hair In a message dated 2/4/02 9:43:52 PM, ed_flynn3@yahoo.com writes: << Jon Lord of Deep Purple had a moustache. >> how about werner landkroon of nv groep 65 - this guy looked like jesus, in 196fuckin6, no less! pipe if you like it - rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 19:23:11 -0800 From: bryan Subject: Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock > speaking of acid - what was that movie a few years back where ben stiller > played an adopted kid trying to track his parents down?? he finally finds > them, and it's alan alda & lily tomlin, playing these whacked-out acid > missionary tommy hall-type people. great movie, can't remember the name, > though.... That would be Flirting with Disaster. Good flick. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 19:21:39 -0800 From: "Chris Guttmacher" Subject: L.A. Musicians Wanted Hello all, This Los Angeles-dwelling drummer needs to rock. I like the Lyres, Dead Moon, Flamin' Groovies, Real Kids, Pink Fairies, Sonic's Rendezvous, 13th Fl. Elevators and all kindsa other stuff. I'm looking for a guitarist, a bassist and a singer (or a g/b player who sings...) I'm old (36 - how many rock years is that?), experienced, jaded but nice and have very little ambition for "success", but I would like to make some records and play some fun gigs. I'm also a fag - hope y'all can deal. I'm looking for who can riff like Keef or Ike Turner and a bassist with a warm tone who knows what "low end" means (NO frustrated guitarists!) I like rockabilly, frat rock, blues, R&B and dig 70s bands like the Groovies and the Real kids who took the 50s/60s thing and amped it up. I'm into doing covers and originals. No posers, macho morons, junkies or mean people. cribu@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 19:32:07 -0800 From: bryan Subject: Re: L.A. Musicians Wanted Darn, I was going to reply to your ad, but then I saw this: No "macho morons". Oh well. Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 23:16:28 -0600 From: "mykel" Subject: Re: damage (was Re: Concept Bands) and yeah, > they did features members of the swans and prong. and a future black snake...i'm sure i could catch some flack for saying the 80's fuckin' rocked but i will anyway. ummmm, the 80's fuckin' rocked! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:27:27 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Ramsey Lewis/Remains In a message dated 2/4/02 7:05:35 PM Central Standard Time, Stevo sez: << -that cadet label thing -one of the guys from Electric Mud (1968 elpee by Muddy Waters) wound up with Ramsey Lewis in his electric period didn't he? >> Yeah, that was drummer Morris Jennings, who I believe replaced... <> You are. Maurice came into the picture after the original group with Eldee Young and Red Holt (later of Young-Holt Unlimited) split. <> Going by the Legacy compilation (BARRY & THE REMAINS) from the early nineties, their punkest material (to me) included "Don't Look Back," "Say You're Sorry" (both versions), "You Got A Hard Time Comin'", and especially "Diddy Wah Diddy." This album goes in chronological order, making the first six tracks easy to skip - I thought THOSE songs were "too poppy." The action begins, IMO, with track 7 ("Say You're Sorry") and stays consistent throughout. If the first six songs were poppy Beatles knockoffs, the remainder of the disc is eclectic rock & roll in the shape of the Stones. And "eclectic" isn't a dirty word either - some of these modern-day garage bands oughta master that concept. To me, the slow songs like "Thank You" have as much verve as "Diddy Wah Diddy." No, the Remains weren't in wildass "Diddy" mode all the time, but like the Five Americans' I SEE THE LIGHT album, they knew better than to get locked in one groove all the time. James ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Feb 2002 21:36:08 -0800 (PST) From: Tim Lakritz Subject: The coolest pad EVER! I was reading the local news-rag today and my eyes damn near popped outta my head when I read the story about a couple in Waxahachie (50 mi. NE of Ft. Worth) who are in the midst of building their new home, which will be an EXACT replica of the Munsters' house at 1313 Mockingbird Lane...judging by the pictures, they're doing an excellent job! Tim __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2002 00:39:40 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: 1960's Rock Bands With Facial Hair In a message dated 2/4/02 7:05:35 PM Central Standard Time, Jason writes: << I don't remember any (members of Blue Cheer, Iron Butterfly, Deep Purple, or Vanilla Fudge) having members with facial hair. >> I don't know about Blue Cheer, but at different times, the other three bands definitely did. Check out my man Ron Bushy's mug shot on the back cover of Iron Butterfly's IN-A-GADDA-DA-VIDA - he's as hairy as the day is long. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 05 Feb 2002 09:00:36 +0100 From: Bård Hodneland Subject: Re: acid rock/psychedelic rock-what's the dif.? well, this question from the Norwegian version of Trivial Pursuit (the board game) may help you: Q: What type of music do the New Kids On The Block play? A: Acid Rock problem solved! bård. At 17:59 04.02.02 -0500, you wrote: >In a message dated 2/4/02 4:13:17 AM Central Standard Time, >owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > > > > > > Does anyone have a definition for 'Acid Rock' as compared to > > 'Psychedelic > > Rock'? An example or two of each as well. Something to discuss. > > > >Hmmm... Quite a hornets nest you've ripped into here. I doubt if there >are true factual and indisputable definitions for both terms, let alone the >difference between the 2. I'll just offer my opinion on a couple things. >First of all, for me, "psychedelic rock" does not allow for the earliest >form of psychedelic music-garage band music, which was already in >place when psychedelic influences started to creep into the records. >I say this because I believe any kind of "rock" music has left out the >"roll" quotient in name and quality (teenage excitement, the beat, etc) >This is why you will never hear me use the term "garage rock". Because >"rock" w/o the roll is a whole different ball game to me. Other than that, >I'll just say that I remember the term psychedelic being applied to music >on the radio a few years before hearing the term "acid rock". If you >want to surmise that means "acid rock" came a bit later and was >maybe heavier and more deserving of the "rock" w/o the roll label, so be it. >Garage band music was rock and roll-not rock. The term "psychedelic" >probably covers a larger time period and much more music than the more >specific "acid rock". Moptop Mike, late of this list, also despised the term >"garage rock" for the same reason I do. It just don't sound right! I don't >expect everyone to agree with me on this. It's just the way I saw things >develope in the 60's and 70's. Your turn..... Dr. Mindburger. >ps-Mike also hated the term "acid punk". I kinda' like that one myself. >Just sounds like a really exciting action-packed psychedelic garage >record to me. I don't know if Greg Shaw coined that one or not, but I >thought I'd seen it in Pebbles liners before. It's better taken as a >descriptive term for the wild records, rather than a statement that the >Musicians were on acid. With extremely rare exceptions-they weren't. >pps-examples: >psychedelic: J. A.-"Somebody To Love" (could also be considered garagey) > >acid and/or psych. rock: Morly Grey-The Only Truth lp > > " " " " " : Bloodrock- "D.O.A." >acid punk: The Fe Fi Four Plus 2-"I Wanna' Come Back From The World > Of LSD". (read: wild, psychedelic garage band rock and > roll). > Same type of stuff also called "punkadelic". >I'll go out on a limb and say "acid rock" will always be psychedelic but >psychedelic will more often NOT be acid rock. Much wider range for >"psychedelic". Play >Ball! > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2002 #76 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com