From: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com (bomp-digest) To: bomp-digest@xnet2.com Subject: bomp-digest V2002 #90 Reply-To: bomp Sender: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Errors-To: owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send e-mail to majordomo@xnet2.com with "unsubscribe bomp-digest" in the body X-Bomp-web-site: http://www.bomp.com X-BompList-Administrator: efd@xnet2.com bomp-digest Tuesday, February 12 2002 Volume 2002 : Number 090 This is the digest version of the Bomp list. ***HOW TO UNSUBSCRIBE:*** Send an e-mail with the words "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com or go to . Here's what people are yacking about in this digest: Re: my intro to garage Iam Fuzzco Re: Re:the nines..the tones..eek! Moparlary@aol.com Re: Amps and point to point wiring Rob Farrell Fw: Ike and Bo "todd williams" Re: Amps and point to point wiring "i ntruder" <4peter@onebox.com> Re: Swamp Sounds/Johnnie Allan "Jeroen Vedder" Re: Introduction to garage Mndbgr1@aol.com Dave Van Ronk dies DaGreasyChicken@aol.com Just a brief note Andy Shelton Re: bomp-digest V2002 #88 early punk xposure ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Re: my intro to garage Rick McCullough Re: Amps and point to point wiring Rob Farrell 13th Floor Elevators Planckzoo@aol.com Re: Fink, Funk, P-fink, and the Buff Medways rat fink Re: bomp-digest V2002 #87 Sugar Town Re: bomp-digest V2002 #88 Sugar Town Syl Sylvain show "Laura Markley" Re: Andre Williams HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Billy Stewart HOODOO3005@aol.com Re: Andre Williams (correction) HOODOO3005@aol.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 12:30:09 -0800 (PST) From: Iam Fuzzco Subject: Re: my intro to garage - --- Boldface wrote: > > It was at a rockabilly club actually where I first > remember hearing the > Sonics being played. I asked the DJ who they were > and then got it into my > head that I wanted to find out more about the > original sixties groups. And that DJ's name? "Stunning" Steve Coleman. __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:42:46 EST From: Moparlary@aol.com Subject: Re: Re:the nines..the tones..eek! Hey...don't talk about my bad golfing girlfriend like that!!!!! say hello to Neko....Moparlary In a message dated Mon, 11 Feb 2002 11:04:15 AM Eastern Standard Time, "buscareno" writes: > > > So does this make a Blair cross city run from the Fleshtones to the Nines > > show even possible? Or do we have to rev up the Hemi under Glass???? > > sunday,sunday, subway?..... Moparlary > > No, Lo-Par Mary, 'cuz I'll be in DC checkin' out the Dictators. (And the New > Pornographers the following evening.) > > > _________________________________________________________ > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 16:03:50 -0500 From: Rob Farrell Subject: Re: Amps and point to point wiring TheReedGuy@aol.com wrote: > For crying out loud, is there a conspiracy or something. It seems that > everyone I talk to is into these old Fender amps that have point to point > wiring. Why in hell does fender not re release these amps built EXACTLY the > way they were in the 60's. AGREED! Main problem - COST. It is alot cheaper to have printed circuit boards (PCBs) made than to have someone hand solder each wire, cap, resistor, etc... > > I know that some of the caps and transformer materials are not still > available (I've been told this) But it seems like when I talk about some of > the re issues they have people are always saying that they have printed > circuit boards so they are not REALLY like the old ones. Matchless went out > of business and I'm not sure in Tophat is point to point. I've been told > they would be really expensive but I think people would pay for it. Can > anyone shed some light on this? Is there anyone making amps that are built > like they used to? Yes, caps, transformers, resistors, etc... are all still available - and there are new amp companies that are still doing PTP wiring. I think TopHat is - but I'm not sure - but those amps ROCK! I tried one recently and was very impressed with the amp! Also - check out CARR amps - they kick ass too! > > Speaking of tones, I saw some band play the Hotel Utah in San Fran not too > long ago. This guy was playing a Les Paul in a band through a Marshall > Plexitone? Plexi something? It was going through a 4 x10. Sounded great. Plexi = plexiglass front = face and back panel plates on old Marshall amps (pre '69) had face plates and back panels made of plexiglass. in '69 they switched over to a metal front panel. > > Maybe I can have someone make an amp from the schematic of this plexi > something Marshall. ask on the plexipalace BBS message board - http://www.plexipalace.com > > Reed > > ===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== - -- Rob Farrell Sinclair Records rob@sinclairrecords.com http://www.sinclairrecords.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 15:57:59 -0600 From: "todd williams" Subject: Fw: Ike and Bo - ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Owen Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:59 PM To: Bomplist (E-mail) Subject: Ike and Bo I saw his set last year at SXSW in Austin and it was awful. As was the album from last year. The last decent thing the man did was his book "Takin' Back My Name." Unfortunately, he was nominated for a Grammy this year for "Best Traditional Blues Album" and the hawaiian shirt wearing "House Of Blues" crowd probably buys more records than the stained DMZ shirt wearing garage crowd...I think it may be too late for Ike. chris-this is really interesting...i was at ike's antones' show and i had such a good time! it was incredible seein and hearin ike up close doing songs like rocket 88, sugar foot rag, and goddamn prancin!! i could not believe he did prancin....but he exceeded my expectations which i find is usually the deal with the old-timers; if you don't expect much you may be pleasantly surprised. but as for bo, man, try readin his autobiography. the guy has got a serious chip on his shoulder; he's just a bitter old fuck! he seems to go out his way, anymore, to damage his reputation as a rock and roll killer. the guy's guitar tone has got to be heard to be believed how bad it is! he's nuts. todd Chris - -Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2002 12:34:02 -0500 - -From: "Ty Jesso" - -Subject: Ty on: Bo, Capitol Promos & More - -When I saw Ike Turner a few years back,I really dug his schtick. He was a - -bit loose and his gave out but he played Rocket 88, a few whammy bar instros - -& entertained us hecklers by suggesting that we "couldn't handle "Jack - -Rabbit" after our repeated requests got him to smiling... - -He made the night even better when he got us some signed photos that had - -info & address for joining the "I Still Like Ike" Fanclub! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 13:34:07 -0800 From: "i ntruder" <4peter@onebox.com> Subject: Re: Amps and point to point wiring >For crying out loud, is there a conspiracy or something. It seems that everyone I talk to is into these old Fender amps that have point to point wiring. Why in hell does fender not re release these amps built EXACTLY the way they were in the 60's. >I know that some of the caps and transformer materials are not still available (I've been told this) But it seems like when I talk about some of the re issues they have people are always saying that they have printed circuit boards so they are not REALLY like the old ones. Matchless went out of business and I'm not sure in Tophat is point to point. I've been told they would be really expensive but I think people would pay for it. Can anyone shed some light on this? Is there anyone making amps that are built like they used to? >Speaking of tones, I saw some band play the Hotel Utah in San Fran not too long ago. This guy was playing a Les Paul in a band through a Marshall Plexitone? Plexi something? It was going through a 4 x10. Sounded great. >Maybe I can have someone make an amp from the schematic of this plexi something Marshall. >Reed reed, if your not gonna go vintage then buy a peavey classic (50 or 30 watt). i know some people cringe when they hear the name peavey but these are point to point tube and are not expensive for new amps constructed this way. they sound great, nearly like fenders, and are a GREAT deal. you can also pick them up for around $300 on ebay last i checked. oh yeah, they're also covered in tweed which is kind of cool. __________________________________________________ FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 22:32:14 +0100 From: "Jeroen Vedder" Subject: Re: Swamp Sounds/Johnnie Allan On 11 Feb 2002 11:24 HOODOO3005@aol.com wrote: >>> My copy is on Ovalstiff, with Johnnie Allan on one side and a Stiff pub-rock artist on the other; I momentarily forget the artist, but the song is "One Heart, One Song." And on his side of the picture sleeve, the guy (NOT Allan!) is wearing a Creem T-shirt!<<< Mine's on Oval (distributed by Virgin, 1974) with Helton Dunaway's 'Betty and Dupree' on the flip. I guess Stiff had to invest in the entire Oval output when they wanted Lene Lovich, who was originally signed to that label if I remember correctly >>>I have one of Ace's Swallow compilations, some of which sounds like rockabilly or R&B with an accordion.<<< One of my faves is 'Louisiana Blues' (Ace CHD 211), "wild" doesn't even begin to describe it. >>>And if you look hard enough, you can still find actual Swallow albums<<< Same goes for some 45s, one I still frequently see is the Del- Chords 'Help Me' (Jin 126) a cool doo-wop ballad, but turn it over and there's a wild R&B pounder hiding there; 'Say That You Love Me'. Cheers, Jeroen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:18:38 EST From: Mndbgr1@aol.com Subject: Re: Introduction to garage In a message dated 2/11/02 4:19:05 AM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > >What was your first introduction to garage/punk music? > > Hearing it on the radio as it grew out of the response to the British invasion and the surf/instro/frat/r+b stuff that was already going in the U.S. prior to that. It's still unbelievable...how good radio was. I guess if you want to pin it down to the first introduction to garage, it would probably be hearing "Louie Louie" by the Kingsmen on the radio for the first time. Released late '63, probably heard it early '64. Dr. Mindburger. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 18:39:16 EST From: DaGreasyChicken@aol.com Subject: Dave Van Ronk dies LOS ANGELES, California (Reuters) -- Folk singer Dave Van Ronk, a respected figure on the early 1960s New York music scene and an early mentor of Bob Dylan, died Sunday after a battle with colon cancer, his record company said. He was 65. Nicknamed "the mayor of Greenwich Village" on account of his authoritative knowledge of jazz and blues, Van Ronk died at 9:30 a.m. at New York University Medical Center, said Mitchell Greenhill, president of Folklore Productions, who was at his bedside. Although Van Ronk never achieved commercial success, he remained an influential performer in the folk community. He toured and recorded -- and taught guitar -- until the end of last year when he underwent colon cancer surgery in November. His most recent album was the jazz-influenced "Sweet and Lowdown," which was released last year via Santa Monica-based Folklore. He received a traditional folk Grammy nomination in 1996 for "From ... Another Time & Place." Van Ronk's last concert, performed in Adelphi, Maryland, on October 22, had been recorded and Van Ronk spent his last weeks going through the tapes to prepare a live album, Greenhill said. Van Ronk, a Brooklyn, New York, native, befriended Dylan after the young Minnesotan arrived in New York, and frequently allowed him to stay in his Greenwich Village apartment. Even after Dylan became a star, they maintained a "sporadic but warm" relationship, Greenhill said. In 1974, Van Ronk appeared with Dylan and others at a benefit for Chilean political prisoners. Van Ronk recorded some 20 albums from the late 1950s, winning praise for his gritty interpretations of artists as diverse as Louis Armstrong, the Rev. Gary Davis, Leonard Cohen and Randy Newman. Greenhill said Van Ronk was also an excellent songwriter, and showcased his talents on the album "Going Back to Brooklyn." Perhaps most notably, Van Ronk expanded the melody of the old blues song "He Was A Friend Of Mine," which was later adapted by the Byrds as a tribute to John F. Kennedy. Van Ronk also added the chords to "Baby, Let Me Follow You Down," and co-owned the copyright, said Greenhill. Dylan recorded both those songs, along with other tunes covered by Van Ronk such as Bukka White's "Fixin' To Die," Blind Lemon Jefferson's "See That My Grave Is Kept Clean" and "Cocaine Blues." On the liner notes of his self-titled debut album, Dylan credited Van Ronk with turning him on to "House of the Rising Sun." According to music writer David Hajdu's recently published book "Positively 4th Street," Van Ronk was so respected by the city's folk musicians that New York Times reporter Robert Shelton -- who gave Dylan his first major press exposure in 1961 -- asked him to vet important pieces before he submitted them to his editors. Van Ronk is survived by his wife, Andrea Vuocolo. A memorial service is pending, Greenhill said. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 19:04:41 -0500 From: Andy Shelton Subject: Just a brief note I want to thank everyone who responded to my e-mail, I really enjoy reading your responses.Keep them coming! Right now, I cannot think of anything more to add soI'll go. Once again, I thank everyone for their responses. Your friend, Andy Shelton ashelton@hargray.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 17:28:50 -0800 (PST) From: ed flynn eDz SoNiC sPaCe Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #88 early punk xposure - --- Alan Wright wrote: > > > >What was your first introduction to garage/punk music? > > My introduction to punk was seeing the Sex Pistols on ABC TV when > they did their ill-fated American tour. I was in eighth grade. I remember them featured on CBS's "In The News", which was a three minute current affairs segment that would run just before noon at the end of the Saturday morning cartoons. I was in 6th or 7th grade (1977). By this time, I was into Kiss and Black Sabbath, and I remember thinking, 'what a bunch of scumbags'. Ha ha ha! I never became a Pistols fan, but then I like GG Allin, the biggest scumbag of 'em all! ~ed, outlaw Bompfuc ===== http://www.wpkn.org __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 20:00:08 -0800 From: Rick McCullough Subject: Re: my intro to garage I'd seen the Rolling Stones and the Byrds on TV, but it really clicked for me when I caught an actual teen band in my neighborhood play in front of an actual garage in the actual 60s(!) Looking back now, it was an almost perfect scenario. They were loud, out of tune and were really pretty ragged, but my pre-adolescent eyes hadn't seen or heard anything like it. After a few songs, some neighbor called the cops. Ooops, show's over and they were never heard from again. But I remembered. And a few years later I got the vinyl "Nuggets" and totally capitulated. Rick ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:43:53 -0800 From: Rob Farrell Subject: Re: Amps and point to point wiring erm - be careful w/ those Peaveys - they were notorious for cooking up. (output transformer catching fire - circuit boards frying and/or melting...) There were alot of problems w/ the Peavey tweeds. These problems didn't happen to ALL of them - but alot of them... - -Rob i ntruder wrote: >>For crying out loud, is there a conspiracy or something. It seems that >> >everyone I talk to is into these old Fender amps that have point to point >wiring. Why in hell does fender not re release these amps built EXACTLY >the way they were in the 60's. > >>I know that some of the caps and transformer materials are not still >> > >available (I've been told this) But it seems like when I talk about some >of the re issues they have people are always saying that they have printed >circuit boards so they are not REALLY like the old ones. Matchless went >out of business and I'm not sure in Tophat is point to point. I've been >told they would be really expensive but I think people would pay for >it. Can anyone shed some light on this? Is there anyone making amps >that are built like they used to? > >>Speaking of tones, I saw some band play the Hotel Utah in San Fran not >> >too long ago. This guy was playing a Les Paul in a band through a Marshall >Plexitone? Plexi something? It was going through a 4 x10. Sounded great. > > >>Maybe I can have someone make an amp from the schematic of this plexi >> > >something Marshall. > >>Reed >> > > >reed, > >if your not gonna go vintage then buy a peavey classic (50 or 30 watt). >i know some people cringe when they hear the name peavey but these are >point to point tube and are not expensive for new amps constructed this >way. they sound great, nearly like fenders, and are a GREAT deal. you >can also pick them up for around $300 on ebay last i checked. oh yeah, >they're also covered in tweed which is kind of cool. > > > >__________________________________________________ >FREE voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. >Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com > > >===> To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp" to majordomo@xnet2.com <=== > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:47:34 EST From: Planckzoo@aol.com Subject: 13th Floor Elevators In a message dated 2/11/02 3:11:07 PM Eastern Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: > > I just picked up what is presented as the "only official > authorized > greatest hits CD for North America", ABSOLUTELY THE BEST OF THE > 13TH > FLOOR ELEVATORS. Just released on Fuel2000. Nice package. > Trippidelic > cover of Roky's face with third eye; nice liner notes with > concert > posters; 77 min; > > > I thought I'd heard there was a triple cd compi due > I was expecting box set -so presumably everything officially > available > did i get the wrong info? > or is there something else either imminent or just released > stevo > Both things have come out within the past couple months. The Elevators music is "owned" by Charley Records now, it was sold to them by Leyland Rogers, brother of Ole Kenny"pager sex"Rogers. There is still lots of litigation surrounding these recordings, needless to say,not much change is getting into Roky Ericksons or Tommy Halls pockets. Roky is happily watching the Carton Network,(he is a big Scooby Doo fan) enjoying his new dentures(courtesty of Hank Rollins) and Tommy is living in poverty in San Francisco. Eric That's "Mr. Rock-n-Roll" to you ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:59:18 -0500 From: rat fink Subject: Re: Fink, Funk, P-fink, and the Buff Medways Sknoof@aol.com wrote: > << You're welcome but I'm not Michael, I'm the other > Rat (fink vs. Pfink)... > For future clarification: > Michael = rat fink --> Rock And Roll Dance Party > Me = Rat Pfink --> Online Garage Compilation Database >> > > Okay, now jog MY memory. One of you said he has the same birthday as I (June > 3rd.) Which one was it? > > Mike F. > That must be "Pfink"...If I remember correctly, I share a birthday with a "spazz" (make that THE Spazz) and arrived just a few hours ahead of that "Wayback" cat. >What was your first introduction to garage/punk music? Born in the mid 60's...I was prime to be introduced to this scene by none other than the RAMONES! BTW. I just picked up the new Buff Medways record...I just don't get it. This was the reason I stopped buying Headcoats releases. The first song is a pretty decent rocker but, the rest of this platter leaves me cold. At least I still gots thee Milkshakes! - -- Michael The Tuesday Night Rock And Roll Dance Party http://www.wusb.fm/rockandroll 9pm until Midnight on 90.1FM WUSB Stony Brook, New York baby, the world ain't round...it's square! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:01:23 -0800 (PST) From: Sugar Town Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #87 My intro to garage was from a good friend of mine who was also into punk stuff and Pussy Galore. He'd call me up and say, "Let's get drunk and play records," or he'd call me up and say, "I'm getting drunk and playing___" He sort of personifies garage by being surly, well-dressed, and well-perserved. He left his records with me when he went back to California for a spell, and it's like a piece of him is still here in Philly. Saw The Hives last night on MTV2, where they still show 120 Minutes. They were followed by a clip by The International Noise Conspiracy. So for ten minutes I was in heaven, even if it was like two in the morning. Sara __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:08:18 -0800 (PST) From: Sugar Town Subject: Re: bomp-digest V2002 #88 Also forgot to mention that seeing The Original Sins play in Philly was a fine intro to garage music. __________________________________________________ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:11:39 -0500 From: "Laura Markley" Subject: Syl Sylvain show Syl Sylvain and his band were freakin' amazing! I love that guy. So it's not the New York Dolls but it's the next best thing. He's got some great players with him, some rail thin, junkie looking, spiky haired French guy from N.O. on 2nd hollow body guitar, a tall guy from Maine, also French, on bass (his parents came down for the show!) and an energetic young drummer. Syl played a beautiful hollow bodied Gretsch that he said was Lou Reed's, not sure if he was joking about that. The set was great. I don't know his solo stuff really but I enjoyed just about every song. I saw on allmusic.com that one song he played is called "I'm Your Man" with the credit "Sylvain Sylvain", however this song is "Come See Me" by the Pretty Things! I don't know what's up with that. He also did "Frankenstein", "Jet Boy" and "Subway Train" from the first NY Dolls lp and a moving "Femme Fatale" with searing, loud guitar break. Bo Diddley's "Pills" was a lot of fun and they closed out with a cover of the British band, the Boys' tune from 1977 that I recognized but could not name (with the "Oi, Oi, Oi!" refrain). Syl's between song banter gets a little cornball but I don't even mind 'cause I dig his sincerity. This is the real thing, from the heart and the gut, and should hit home for anyone who misses real rock and roll. _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:33:12 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: Andre Williams In a message dated 2/11/02 3:02:27 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << Like somebody else said, if not Mick Collins, then _somebody_ who gets it. I'm not that into the "Black Godfather" album that Andre Williams did, but "Silky" ruled and the one on Norton sucked.>> Which Norton record? There are two...I haven't heard the most recent album, but the one I do have is called GREASY, from, I believe, 1986. This is the LP that kicked off the current Andre resurgence, and it's pretty true to his Fortune 45's from the fifties. The producers definitely "got it." It's not over-the-top like that SILKY album, it's just classic 1950's R&B. No pseudo-Jon Spencer pyrotechnics, but no hippie blues in the Buddy Guy vein, either. However, I'll admit that the RED DIRT album on Bloodshot (his "country" album) didn't do it for me. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 02:51:04 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: Billy Stewart In a message dated 2/11/02 3:02:27 PM Central Standard Time, owner-bomp-digest@xnet2.com writes: << -reminds me does anybody know the billy stewart cd on connoisseur collective? would you reccommend it? >> I admit, I don't know about that one, but Chess/MCA has two really good compilations - one is titled ONE MORE TIME, while the second is one of those "best of the millenium"-type CD's that I see making the rounds lately. Sometimes he lays on the vocal gimmicks - "brrrr bup bup" and all that - really thick, but I'd rather hear it from him than Luther Vandross. He was just a talented, if underrated artist; his ballads are brillant ("Sitting In The Park," "I Do Love You," etc.) And yes, he was Bo Diddley's pianist for a spell. Dig the monstrous "Billy's Blues, Part 2," in which Stewart's stuttering vocals are paired with Bo's reverbed guitar. littledarlindonotletatearfallfromyoureyesWHOA! - JP PS for God's sake, don't mention Billy Stewart in conjunction with this fucking "northern soul" hype; the term probably didn't even EXIST during his lifetime - this is the real thing, not some Come-Ons/Delta 72 hype - -been looking for a collection of his stuff since i first heard summertime -also is that true that he was once Bo Diddley's pianist? >> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 03:00:24 EST From: HOODOO3005@aol.com Subject: Re: Andre Williams (correction) In a message dated 2/12/02 1:33:12 AM Central Standard Time, I said: << Which Norton record? There are two...I haven't heard the most recent album, but the one I do have is called GREASY, from, I believe, 1986. >> Andre Williams has two albums on Norton, and the earliest was GREASY - from '96, not '86. ------------------------------ End of bomp-digest V2002 #90 **************************** ===================================================================== You've been reading bomp-digest, the digest version of the Bomp list. To unsubscribe, send "unsubscribe bomp-digest" to majordomo@xnet2.com